Some "rapes" are less serious then others. Of course, Mr. Kenneth Clarke is right! Are car theft, carjacking, returning-borrowed-car-past-the-due-hour all equally serious transgressions? Tyrannical political correctness speech code taboos prohibit sensible discussions

ptsaq · 2011-05-23T21:34:20+00:00

Although I think I understand your point, your analogy is false. In carjacking the car is the least important aspect, it is important only as far as a required element, the violent taking is the main prohibited act. Theft is permanent attempt to deprice, your last example (unauthorized use) is a temporary attempt to deprive. Rape is unwanted sexual intercourse, period. Whether is is using a weapon, by threat of deadly harm, date rape, both drunk etc. the basic prohibited act is the intercourse, everything else is details. Theft, carjacking and your last example(unuathorized use) are distinctly different crimes that revolve around a vehicle. A better example would be stealing $60,000 car to a $500 car, both stolen, both the same crime, different seriousness. Either way your point is wrong. If you kill someone by poisoning them in their sleep and they die painlessly, it is the same damn thing as cutting their throat when they're awake. The only difference would be the brazen nature of specifics of the second act, that does not make the first act any less horrible.

gkiruru · 2011-05-24T04:40:57+00:00

*IT'S *THAN NOT THEN **

thesmos · 2011-05-23T18:42:57+00:00

This is hyperbolic. Rape is sexual interaction with someone who has not given consent, withdrew consent during the act, or is legally incapable of giving consent. I have no problem with these definitions, and Im curious to see how one could fault them.

Vsab · 2011-05-26T13:17:00+00:00

They are no where near the same thing. Blame the heavily Christian influenced past/bureaucrats for instilling the 18+ mentality into everyones minds. No problem if teens are exposed to varying degrees of violence and carnage, but god forbid they are exposed to sex. We have an illogical way of measuring maturity and the age of consent fluctuates heavily from country to country because of it.

curious67 · 2011-05-23T11:14:15+00:00

Rape the new feminist obsession. Rape the new frontier in Gender War

In the last half century, rape has been re-defined.

First rape is re-defined, so that dozens of crimes that had a different name before, or that did not even exist before, become rape.
Almost everything is "rape" see (1) (2) (3) above in the article
Pretty soon, having sex with a 20 year old is rape (when the age of consent will reach 21).
Harassment and Objectifying gaze might become rape at some time. After all, if a woman feels raped, then it is rape.
Then the dogma "All (these different) types of rape are the same"
Then change due process and make sure every man is "guilty until proven innocent" when accused of rape
Finally the feminist dream becomes reality. Every man is a rapist. And if he is not, he can always be accused, tried, and be convicted of rape.

What other purpose can this have, then to scare men away from sexual activities, like the antifeminist incessantly preaches?

overcontrol · 2011-05-23T17:06:46+00:00

Since consent is almost always implicitly given yet (i.e. you rarely explicitly ask "Can I have sex with you?" and get a "Yes" before the deed), almost all sex could be retroactively be called rape under the premise of "I never gave consent".

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