Amanda Marcotte, of feminist blog pandagon, thinks MRAs are "swine". Yeah, cause the sexist trope of "men are pigs" isn't overplayed enough.

thetrollking · 2011-03-09T06:08:47+00:00

No one is trying to pass legislation aimed at restricting a man’s right to control his reproductive organs.

Here's the WHO's definition of reproductive rights:

Reproductive rights rest on the recognition of the basic right of all couples and individuals to decide freely and responsibly the number, spacing and timing of their children and to have the information and means to do so, and the right to attain the highest standard of sexual and reproductive health. They also include the right of all to make decisions concerning reproduction free of discrimination, coercion and violence.

Under the eyes of the law (yes, this really has happened) a woman can steal a man's sperm, impregnate herself with it, and force the man to pay child support. If he refuses he can be thrown in jail. If he refuses that, he will be beat-up, tazed, shot, etc and then thrown in jail for even longer. Sounds like "coercion and violence" to me. I'm only going to passingly mention the socially acceptable man-rape that happens in jails...

Edit: Oh, and when a different case about "male abortion" made it's way to a US appeals court they ruled:

"the Fourteenth Amendment does not deny to [the] State the power to treat different classes of persons in different ways."

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Edit(2):

MRAs characterize abortion not as a matter of control over your body, but giving women “special” rights to say no to parenthood after sex has occurred, which is the only event MRAs seem to think matters. It is not. Abortion is the right to control your body. Pregnant people actually have fewer rights than everyone else to control their bodies, since the Supreme Court has said that the state interest in the fetus creates restrictions. Pregnant people have fewer, not more rights. Keep this in mind when you get into this argument with paranoid dudes with massive entitlement issues.

So, our argument has no merit because there's other reasons someone would get an abortion? Did I miss something? What about adoptions? Women get to choose for men whether or not we will become fathers whom society expects to work work work to provide for the family. You didn't want a family and the woman said she'd give the baby up for adoption, but changed her mind when she got pregnant? Oh, you still don't want to be a dad? Too bad, so sad, now get to work...

Ma99ie · 2011-03-09T02:37:59+00:00

That is pretty much why I hate The Good Men Project. They invited this bitter bigot to spew her vitriol about MRA's. She was specifically given permission by the cowards at TGMP to insult the movement. Vomit.

scottb84 · 2011-03-09T01:43:47+00:00

"No one is trying to pass legislation aimed at restricting a man’s right to control his reproductive organs."

Men have no rights to control their reproductive organs.

knowless · 2011-03-09T09:47:13+00:00

"Let me repeat this for clarity: Reproductive rights are derived from the right to bodily autonomy.": then sperm is not a gift.

you must gain consent to bear a mans child. slur.

abortion rights should go hand in hand with paternity, if you want the right to abortion, then you shouldn't be able to force some random guy you slept with to pay for your child.

your labor and property are your body, a woman demanding, through state coercion, to be payed because she wanted to fuck you is an abuse of your autonomy.

If you as a woman want to fuck random dudes, then you can't reasonably expect anyone to raise your child but yourself, here's equality.

abusive boyfriends apparently are men who hold you accountable for your actions..

male privilege? you mean having a woman who sleeps with whoever they want, that by chance gets pregnant with your sperm, gets to milk you for 18 years or more? even though there was an equal chance it was the guy she fucked the night before?...

complete fucking bullshit.

edit:: no woman has the right to have a child with a man who did not consent, if she so chooses this avenue, then it is her struggle alone.

thetrollking · 2011-03-09T04:32:06+00:00

Comment #75: Nimravid on 03/08 at 11:41 PM Maybe it’s late and I’m really high, but what the fuck is “bodily support”?

Amanda, I was going to take you up on your offer, and go troll MRA blogs and invoke poststructuralist wu-shu on them, but if Darren is representative of the garbage I’d have to deal with, I think I’ll just go to bed.

Comment #76: felagund on 03/08 at 11:47 PM

Please guys, read the comment section there. It is so illuminating on how feminists, mainstream ones that get hired by the government at that, think about men and men's rights.

It is full of dismissive shaming tactics. They called MRAs nothing but virgins, losers, misogynists, idiots, rapists and abusers, boys living in their mothers basement who have mommy issues and so much more. They hate, HATE, men and maleness and refuse to see anything from a male perspective because we are defunct and incomplete women.....hence the idea I have seen doctors spout about how the y chromosome is a failed or mutated x....nature doesn't give a fuck about what your alphabet is.....it cares about function and reproduction and evolution.....just think about 3 x 3 x 3 or 3/3/3/3/3 or 4x 4 x4 x4 or 4/2/2/2/4/2.....or 7 x 7 x 7 x 7 or 7/7/7/7/7/ or 8 x 8 x 8 x 8x 4 x 2 or 8/8/4/2.....it is about function....not about how we project human creations onto natural creations....

Title	Amanda Marcotte, of feminist blog pandagon, thinks MRAs are "swine". Yeah, cause the sexist trope of "men are pigs" isn't overplayed enough.
Author	thetrollking
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Date	March 9, 2011 12:54 AM UTC (15 years ago)
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