"Don't talk to women about the red pill" True in all cases?

JupeJupeSound · 2016-04-22T13:16:39+00:00

Really once you become advanced, there's a way of talking to girls about red pill topics, making them agree, and laugh, and everything is cool. I think the statement should read, don't talk about the red pill if you're still in the anger phase.

BioSamPijanac · 2016-04-22T16:45:43+00:00

Absolutely true.

Don't talk about TRP, be TRP.

Everything else is demagogy.

VasiliyZaitzev · 2016-04-22T15:09:26+00:00

I don't use TRP terminology, but I do "create my own narrative" and I will tell girls why the things I say to them get them worked up, why they feel excited around me, etc.

I get a lot of excited "No guy has ever talked to me this way before!" - they're used to supplicating, pussy-pedestalizing Billy Betas, etc.

MattyAnon · 2016-04-22T18:57:17+00:00

A common piece of advice here on TRP is to never discuss the red pill with women/plates/LTRs

Never, ever discuss it in red pill terms or with red pill terminology. Ever. Even on your deathbed ever.

So my question is: What makes them the exception to the rule?

They're endorsed contributors, two of the highest standing members of this community. They know what they're doing. You almost certainly do not.

That being said... the trick is to show deep understanding of the SMP while still couching it in blue pill terms.

Eg... "I'd love to settle down with a really great girl.... you know, the kind of girl who just loves me for me... someone I can relax with and who still just accepts and wants me at a deep level".

You know that such a girl doesn't exist, and you use not finding her as an excuse to spin plates. But noone can argue with you for being choosy. You look like you know what you're looking for, and are having a great time doing it. Girl can hamster that her loyalty might mean something, you know the brutal truth about relationships.

Cyralea · 2016-04-22T16:24:34+00:00

My LTR knows I write here as well. It takes a fair bit of finesse and a large amount of personal value to get away with discussing TRP. When you're high value women tend to see the best in everything you do.

For the majority of people learning about TRP it's a terrible idea to discuss it with anyone offline.

blackhawks93 · 2016-04-22T19:30:39+00:00

Read the 48 laws of power. One law is to make your actions seem effortless. Don't talk about TRP to anyone EXCEPT your son or daughter. They should know the laws of social dynamics.

I've told my friends about the 48 laws of power and now they think I'm manipulative. Don't tell people where you get your secrets from unless they ask and you think they are capable of change.

meh613 · 2016-04-23T04:30:43+00:00

Advice is given and has an expiration date.

Just as my aunt told her children to "never venture beyond stop x on the subway", where the stop became further and further away with time as the child showed themselves capable of handling more and more freedom, you shouldn't tell the SO is advice which expires once you feel you can trust her enough to tell her.

GayLubeOil · 2016-04-25T16:07:59+00:00

Just tell women that we have a very serious Seth Rogan stoner beta problem and that the Red Pill is about reclaiming positive masculinity.

Thotwrecker · 2016-04-29T07:53:52+00:00

You have nothing to gain, and potentially something to lose. GLO is trying to make a living out of RP, whereas for RPS I imagine it's like a job - you can't hide that from your SO so you might as well introduce them on your terms.

Don't talk about TRP if you have the inner urge to "share it" with someone. That is a sign that you are still craving someone to validate your newfound ideas.

My ex chick knew I was into PU and knew I posted about how I got different chicks. She had a freakout, but she hamstered it and smoothed it out in her mind and accepted it. She wanted to learn about the theory and we would pick up chicks together. It's really just frame; if you think it's cool, and she thinks your cooler than her, than she'll indulge in your hobbies and they will actually become hers. My current plate hated rap all her life now she's bumping Future because that's my current shit. Literally every part of women are malleable if they guy is high SMV enough in her eyes, that's why LTR game is essentially learning how to shape and mold a woman once you've found a good "base" (low n count, attractive, good genetics, beneath the crazy threshold, etc).

So yeah, you can talk to women about this shit. But if you are sharing it with her because you're being a little beta who needs other people to also buy into X to think X is true, then you're going to have a very bad time. If you want her to validate you, you won't get it. If you want her to acknowledge this epic journey you took from beta to alpha, DON'T DO IT. She will not see the masculine beauty in a nerdy skinnyfat turning into Zyzz. She won't be able to relate to what it was like before. She won't be able to understand why getting sex is an achievement and required you to cultivate winner qualities.

If you are fishing for acknowledgment of who you are, how far you've come, etc, you will not get it from her.

That has to come from within.

Every person I know who talks about TRP, PUA or any of this shit to their friends or GF is just being weak and seeking validation in some form. It's generally that they want others to understand how this new persona they've developed is really meaningful and a big deal, or it's that they want the girl to know the "real them" so that the girl liking them becomes meaningful.

I get it; when she loves you, it means less because she doesn't actually love the real you. She don't know about how you intentionally gamed the attraction phase to make yourself seem like you had sexual abundance, when you really didn't. But in my collective experience with women before knowing about game and after, before PUA, before TRP, etc... I've learned one thing. Women love, sometimes very powerfully, but they never love the real you. You have to swallow that she will never really understand you or love you for your beta self, and that's OK. She only likes your characteristics and traits, and what you do for her - aka the PRODUCTS of TRP.

So if you're sharing TRP with her to try to get her to "know you better" then you're going to have a bad time.

abdada · 2016-04-22T13:21:47+00:00

Never affected me in the least, to be honest. I write about TRP publicly under my real name. Girlfriends, coworkers and customers can google me and find years of TRP posts and comments. Some will ask me about them, others will "attack" me for them, whatever.

The truth is the truth is the truth. If someone has an issue with my opinion, I next them from my life and carry on.

There's nothing ugly about TRP truths. There's nothing I'm ashamed of about how I feel when it comes to gender roles and maintaining a relationship.

My current LTR's family found a bunch of my writings right away when she mentioned my name to them, and all I told them was to stop being butthurt and projecting their own insecurities in my relationship. They backed off after I said that 2 or 3 times. Now they love me.

Naturally.

supersonic-turtle · 2016-04-22T17:07:25+00:00

Treat the red pill like "fight club" don't talk about it, be about it. When your with your boys feel free but as soon as jack wagon invites his girl to chill and watch the fights don't mention it. When she leaves berate your friend for being a cuck.

Title	"Don't talk to women about the red pill" True in all cases?
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Date	April 22, 2016 1:14 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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