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Jessica Valenti Calls for End to Presumption of Innocence, Due Process

avoiceformen

December 14, 2010
36 upvotes
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http://www.avoiceformen.com/2010/12/14/jessica-valenti-calls-for-end-to-presumption-of-innocence-due-process/
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Title Jessica Valenti Calls for End to Presumption of Innocence, Due Process
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avoiceformen

Upvotes 36
Comments 10
Date December 14, 2010 4:56 PM UTC
(15 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/elpqj/jessica_valenti_calls_for_end_to_presumption_of/
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Comments

[–]Lovekraft 5 points6 points7 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ugh. Typical feminist bandstanding, ignoring the concept of false accuse allegations and the rule of evidentiary tradition. She knows which side her bread's buttered on and should be ignored accordingly by anyone with a sense of justice.

[–]witman 4 points5 points6 points 15 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Jessica Valenti obviously loves no man. If she did, she'd be concerned about the impact a false allegation could have on somebody she loves. What will happen when women start accusing other women?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 15 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I've actually seen first-hand how that mentality works. It isn't based on hatred but on naivete.

It is the classic "couldn't happen here" syndrome. To them, none of their male friends/family would be affected by it because as "good people" it couldn't happen to them. They think draconian laws are only used against bad people to help good people. It is the exact same mentality that fundamentalists use, that neocons use, and that the drug war uses.

"A powerful weapon would never be turned on its wielder or their friends"

[–]EatSleepJeep 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Someone ought to accuse her husband Andrew Golis of rape, then. See how she likes it.

[–]mean0dean0 5 points6 points7 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't worry--Jessica probably will, at least during the divorce proceedings. Bitches gotta get paid!

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This seemed so ridiculously over the top I was a bit skeptical, so I did a little digging:

  • Jessica Valenti - founder and Executive Editor of the feminist blog Feministing.com

  • Original Washington Post article

From what I can tell from the article, she doesn't actually come out and say it directly (as a blogger I'm sure she knows the climate isn't quite ready for that) - but does seem to be advocating it.

I suppose some feminists would call objecting to "guilty until proven innocent" as being "rape apologists"

[–]Unenjoyed 4 points5 points6 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Guilty until proven innocent is un-American.

[–]warpfield 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It was all going so well... and then men invented fembots. :)

[–]mean0dean0 1 point2 points3 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hey--which would you prefer--$5000 and 10 years in jail, or $5000 and creepy looks when you take your Real Doll to the IHOP? (note--put her teeth back in if you want to take pictures of the two of you smiling on your date)

[–]Human-Stupidity_com 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I thought presumption of innocence and due process have ended long ago!? what is new about this?

http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/teenage-sexuality/rape-laws-no-due-process

Of course, it is shocking. But, presumption of innocence has long been abolished in rape or child abuse accusations.

But yes, it does go further. It does not only abolish presumption of innocence, it formally introduces clear and total presumption of guilt. It does go another step.

So whenever a bank robbery happens. I must be ready to prove I was not in the bank, one of the masked man. Otherwise I will be jailed as bank robber.

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