Only Rapists Can Stop Rape

InfinitelyThirsting · 2010-10-15T06:46:39+00:00

female responsibility as both the people who rape and takes responsibility off them to be careful, you are vulnerable when you drink, don’t drink too much, etc.

Female rapists are by far the minority, and the negligence of a woman in getting drunk in no way makes her responsible for the criminal act of a man in having sex with her without her express, informed, and capable consent.

some are looking for casual sex and will find a girl that’s a little tipsy, but that doesn’t qualify as rape

Yes, it does. Sex with a girl who cannot consent is rape. I don't care if she's tipsy or passed out. Just because it bears repetition: IF SHE COULD NOT SIGN A VALID CONTRACT IN HER CURRENT MENTAL STATE, SHE CANNOT GIVE CONSENT FOR SEX

Oy.

Not a different definition of rape (does sex within marriage/alcohol consumption qualify, etc) but are in favor of rape itself.

Yes, by parsing the issue as "hurr, if no one says that outright violent "hold her down screaming" rape is good, then there must be no one who's okay with rape, derpity derp", you can create a very specific answer which supports your thesis.

But, since the entire debate is "what the hell counts as rape, anyway", your point is invalid. You can't exclude from the discussion the very thing being discussed.

If we go with the legal definition of rape (she didn't give consent) rather than the "frat boy" definition of rape (she totally dressed like a slut and got drunk, so it isn't rape), I'd bet all the money in my pocket against all the money in yours that I can find at least one who's okay with some forms of rape.

It does take men to stop those kinds of rape. It'll take men who say "yeah, you're right, just because she got drunk doesn't mean I can sleep with her without getting her actual consent". It'll take men who say "if she doesn't seem sober, I don't care how hot she is, or how much she was coming on to you, I'll knock you flat on your ass if you touch her".

Dare I say it? It will take men who actually hold themselves and others to a higher standard than "eh, he didn't hold her down and violently penetrate her"

Christ, I'm usually in favor of men's rights issues, but this is absolute crap.

esulcer · 2010-10-15T09:21:18+00:00

What it would take to stop "rape" as defined currently would be to have sorority sisters stop getting drunk and spreading their legs for aggressive "alpha" males. Yes:the woman should be responsible when she spreads her legs apart willingly for sex, drunk or not.

The 'tell' here is that no one holds men accountable for having sex under the influence.(double standard)

Title	Only Rapists Can Stop Rape
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Upvotes	13
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Date	October 15, 2010 12:44 AM UTC (15 years ago)
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