A Lack of Rights for Men- A Mother Fights Back

tomek77 · 2010-09-11T12:55:02+00:00

The practical solution here is to have some kind of contract, that would work like this:

girl gets pregnant, must notify guy ASAP if she wants financial support
guy may (or may not) sign an "intent of parenthood" contract and take financial responsibility, hopefully before as many witnesses as possible, so he can't claim that his signature was faked
if guy signed the contract, he is a Dad; if he didn't, she is a single Mom and he doesn't owe her anything (she can still abort or give the baby for adoption, of course)

For those of you, who think that this is a crazy idea, I'd say that this is very similar to what a "marriage contract" used to be, before the feminist social engineers turned it into the mutated absurd joke, it is today.. It worked for thousands of years, because it is the only practical solution that is fair to both parties, and allows both men and women to put their energy into working and building a family, without fear of being betrayed by their partner (Will her children be mine? Will he support me after I get pregnant?).

cynwrig · 2010-09-11T06:36:43+00:00

We need an underground railroad to another country (canada or mexico) to funnel all these guys. Fighting is important but IMO the first priority should be giving these victims a second chance.

sinfuljosh · 2010-09-11T06:24:44+00:00

agreed completely with the statement

ThrustVectoring · 2010-09-11T18:37:39+00:00

French Foreign Legion. Its a better option for that young man than slavery.

nasty_nate · 2010-09-11T15:16:21+00:00

I know she's probably not a favorite here, but Ann Coulter had a really good point on this issue. She said that without any formal commitment in the relationship (aka marriage), women shouldn't be able to expect to draw from a man's resources. Also, without this commitment, men shouldn't be given any legal right to the child. Some of her examples were pretty striking, and I think this ends up protecting everyone involved.

EDIT: I figured I should include the example on my mind. Some lady got pregnant, deadbeat dad leaves the country, she puts the baby up for adoption. Five years latter the dad returns and pulls the child away from the adoptive family and back to his custody. He's in jail within a year.

avoiceformen · 2010-09-12T13:37:14+00:00

Interesting how females start giving a damn about such injustices only when when it hurts their kids, husbands, relatives...

If it hurt any arbitrary women they'd all be screaming "it could be me tomorrow" or "this affects all women everywhere".

Fuck you Beth Lang. Where were you when millions of other guys have been screwed in the last several decades just like your son: paying obscenely large CS for the baby they didn't want, and often weren't even allowed to see?

AnatomyofaSong · 2010-09-11T15:19:25+00:00

I understand that it must be very difficult to be in this situation, but I have a few problems with this article. For one thing, the "kid" is 18, and while to the writer he may be your little kid with braces, he is an adult. The mother wanting to keep the baby and the father wanting to terminate the pregnancy is obviously a no-win situation. But this lady states "Shouldn't we be the ones to reap the consequences if we get pregnant while we are single?" the "we" being women. Seriously? So the answer is to make all single mothers just raise the baby on their own? That hardly seems fair either. This article also never mentions the mother, and what she does, is she working, trying to go to school, school and work? The end of the article basically paints any mother that gets child support as a dead beat, and while I'm sure some of them are, is a pretty unfair stereotype.

cynwrig · 2010-09-11T11:00:55+00:00

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s0nicfreak · 2010-09-11T15:19:36+00:00

Men have the right to get a vasectomy or not have sex with a woman who they don't want to run any risk of having a child with. We all know women are crazy and often liars; don't trust them.

I do agree that child support is ridiculously high. But if we give men the "right" to say they didn't agree to having a baby and get out of child support, there will be many men lying and saying they didn't agree when they did. It is true that there are many women lying and saying that the men did agree when they didn't, but I think the way to stop this is to eliminate the benefit to the women for lying about this. Have men pay for things directly instead of paying child support. Don't hand over money to pay the child's electricity bill, actually calculate how much the child uses and have the man give half of that amount to the electric company. Etc.

Meretrice · 2010-09-11T08:41:22+00:00

"As long as we have "My body, my choice," shouldn't we also have "my responsibility," as well?"

Sure thing lady. Your son's responsibility was to wear a condom or not have sex with this chick. That is the responsible thing to do if you do not wish to have a kid.

"Beth Lang is an American mother whose son was duped into becoming a father without his consent."

Duped? Did the girl slip him a mickey? Did she rape him? She talks about "my responsibility" while trying to assert that her son has no responsibility to provide for HIS OWN CHILD.

THAT BEING SAID... it does seem like the judge's monthly support order was pretty high. The $10k in arrears probably came about because of the length of time between when the child was born and the date of the support order, plus again, how high the monthly support is.

Title	A Lack of Rights for Men- A Mother Fights Back
Author	avoiceformen
Upvotes	41
Comments	58
Date	September 11, 2010 6:07 AM UTC (15 years ago)
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