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"Welcome To The Manosphere" | You know th deal...

Strikester101

April 17, 2020
9 upvotes
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
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Title "Welcome To The Manosphere" | You know th deal...
Author

Strikester101

Upvotes 9
Comments 15
Date April 17, 2020 3:15 PM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/g33x0j/welcome_to_the_manosphere_you_know_th_deal/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/welcome-to-the-manosphere-you-know-th-deal.1063686
https://theredarchive.com/post/1063686
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Comments

[–]Egalitarianwhistle 22 points23 points24 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This backlash-laced forum is where aggrieved men complain that women want to be equal to them, yet still demand “perks” like prenatal health care, tax-free sanitary napkins, contraceptives, child support and to have rape kits processed. The most virulent voices rage that they should have the “right” to have sex with women even against their will.

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This doesn't feel like a good faith portrayal of the MRM. I don't think any MRA has ever argued that men should have the right to have sex with women against their will. IT makes me laugh because we get accused of just "hating on feminism" all the time but even the most scathing critique of feminism is done with more good faith than this article.

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Sorry but I couldn't finish reading.

[–]ExcellentTraffic123 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This doesn't feel like a good faith portrayal of the MRM.

Well, there's the understatement of the day :-D

[–]Strikester101[S] 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Like is there anything that the article gets correct about MRM?

[–]Egalitarianwhistle 11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

It doesn't look good. Remember- their "steelmanning" of the MRM is saying MRAs advocate for being able to have sex with any woman they want.

When someone is committed to misunderstanding you it's better to disengage and to back away slowly.

[–]LacklustreFriend 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Can these "journalists" or "pundits" at least do the bare minimum research about the MRM before writing these absolute garbage articles? Jesus Christ, at least watch The Red Pill documentary.

Manosphere is a completely useless and shit term only seriously used by two groups - feminists who wish to conflate completely different groups so they can paint them all as misogynists, or by fringe awful groups who trying to attach themselves to more legitimate groups in order to try and leech some legitimacy.

The author starts off with the NCFM, but then quickly segues into the "manosphere" without explaining what the NCFM actually is to deliberately give the impression that the NCFM and groups like incels are somehow colluding, collaborating or believe the same thing. These kinds of articles are complete garbage and sadly they're so common you pretty much know what it says before you read them.

[+]adlerchen1 points 6 years ago* [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link

"Manosphere" is also used by the large blogging community on men's issues that's been around for more than a decade. While obviously "manosphere" is not entirely synonymous with the MRM, there is a slight bit of overlap with MRAs and other men's issues oriented groups. The problem is that the hack journalists don't care for nuance on these things and just want to conflate it all together with a broad brush while focusing mostly or solely on the worst elements they can find.

[–]LacklustreFriend 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Any previous use the term may have had is ultimately now redundant in my opinion.

I mean the equivalent would be like labeling radical feminists and Christian women's groups under a "femosphere" because they're both vaguely about women's issues. A hypothetical equivalent femosphere would include both Dworkin and Schlafly which just shows how useless such a term is.

[+]adlerchen1 points 6 years ago* [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

It isn't a previous use, it's still the unchanged unflinching use of the name as used by its participants and contributors. It's what that community has always called itself.

[–]LacklustreFriend 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Is this subreddit part of the "manosphere"? The MensRights subreddit? MensLib?

[+]adlerchen1 points 6 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

manosphere

Probably yeah

MensRights

Probably yeah, the issues discussed here and the approach taken is more MRM flavored than MGTOW or PUA flavored

MensLib

I'd hope not, they're controlled opposition filled with stockholm syndrome sufferers.

[–]LacklustreFriend 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So what actually defines the "manosphere" then? Because you're not making any clear delineations, which is kind of my point. It's a term that malleable to whatever the user wants it to be. At best, it can be defined as groups "concerned about men or male issues" which is so incredibly vague as not really convey substantial meaning.

[–]RockFourFour 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can these "journalists" or "pundits" at least do the bare minimum research about the MRM before writing these absolute garbage articles? Jesus Christ, at least watch The Red Pill documentary.

You're being entirely too fair to her position by claiming the content of what she wrote is because she's simply uninformed. Much fairer than her portrayal of "the manosphere".

[–]King-Achelexus 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Reading the first paragraph makes me understand the problem. If she cannot grasp simple concepts such as discrimination, she probably isn't mature enough to be discussing topics like that.

[–]Razorbladekandyfan 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What a disgusting article, downplaying conscription.

[–]Blauwpetjevalued LWMA contributor 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She mentions two totally idiotic definitions and uses them as 'proof' of how bad the 'manosphere' is. Not worth debating any further.

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