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We need to ban feminists on the sub just like they do to us

rabatek

September 19, 2021
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Title We need to ban feminists on the sub just like they do to us
Author

rabatek

Upvotes 0
Comments 51
Date September 19, 2021 2:41 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/AntiFeminists
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/antifeminists/comments/pr9789/we_need_to_ban_feminists_on_the_sub_just_like/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/AntiFeminists/we-need-to-ban-feminists-on-the-sub-just-like-they.1075572
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[–]Diomil 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nothing that would move us into being more like them is healthy.

[–]purple_pansy88 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Unlike them we allow freedom of speech and an open dialogue. You can't change people's minds or make them open to new ideas by living in an echo chamber.

[–]D0wnVoteMe_PLZ 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was about the say this but you said it better than me.

[–]NoMarriageNoKids 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is why feminism is gaining traction. Men are too accommodating in the face of women who are the opposite. We're being permissive with women who are impermissive.

Reminds me of the US' immigration system compared to Mexico's. We allow illegal Mexican aliens to just walk in and stay while Mexico deports US citizens on the 1st offense and jails them on the 2nd offense. Canada is much like Mexico as well.

[–]Alarming_Draw 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men are too accommodating in the face of women who are the opposite. We're being permissive with women who are impermissive.

Exactly. Anything else is naive at best or enabling and deliberate at worst.

[–]Alarming_Draw 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow-seems a lot of fem trolls and lurkers lately deliberately downvoting common sense things. Guess not surprising as its the weekend and theyve nothing to do.

As IF there's ANY reason to not ban femcels given the hate and toxic behaviour that is common to them now.

[–]Pingayaso 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link

No need, they ban us because they hate men and because they lack arguments, so to keep their echo chambers safe they ban opinions.

Here we handle them with arguments and facts, at the end they exclude themselves since they don't know how to argue and flee.

[–]rabatek[S] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

And let them raid the sub ?

[–]Pingayaso 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

They hardly do it

[–]rabatek[S] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yes they do it everytime.

[–]Pingayaso 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

One or two femcels a day is not raiding, a raid is a massive invasion and lasts days

[–]Alarming_Draw 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh as if.

[–]JabariPark -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hardly. Raiding would need to involve a stronger, more populous group to cajole us. I'm pretty sure no one here cares about what anyone the feminist subs have to say, and judging from some of the bright minds here we would be able to take them in a debate anyway.

[–]Alarming_Draw 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As we can see from a number of the posts desperately trying to prevent the notion of banning the lurkers from gaining traction.

[+]say_what_95 -9 points-8 points-7 points 4 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

You say that, yet, everytime a feminist comes to debate you are usually the ones to hold on opinions, not facts, and that flee the debate or loose their shit.

Also maybe feminists ban you cause they have had enough of misogynist and patriarcal shit and wanna hold their safe place. The only men we hate are the ones who are unable to consider us as any other human and show us respect. Are you misogynist ? Than yee, its likely to happen that feminists hate you

[–]Pingayaso 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You who?

[–]Zephyr9865 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for the laugh.

[–]say_what_95 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Your welcome. Too bad i still not see the tip of all the argument and logic you brag about on this sub. Im disappointed, i thought i would have a debate but in fact it seems your only arguments is downvote :/

[–]Zephyr9865 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

You're too indoctrinated by feminism to acknowledge anything that's against it as logical.

[–]say_what_95 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Alright then show me the arguments ! Cause you see, since more than fixe years i consider myself educated on feminism (I have been à feminist my while life), feminism have provided plenty of reasonable and good arguments ive been listened too. However, antifeminists, incels, misogynists seem to only be able to say "you are endocrinated" or "you wouldnt understand" etc. Maybe im blind, or maybe those arent arguments at all. So, at least try to show me an argument, after all thats what my first comment was about and nobody proved me wrong on this sub.

[–]Zephyr9865 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

That's not what I was reffering to.If you seriously have been lurking on this sub for a while and this is the conclusion you came to, then what I said is valid. There is nothing logical in feminism

Ex: the wage gap.

If it was true, then why do companies still hire men, when they can get the same for cheaper? Companies only care about profits and that's a proven fact. There,debunked.

And before you say "patriarchy", feminism would have never been allowed to exist if there ever was this patriarchy. (The way you feminists describe it, if it was true, feminism wouldn't exist.)

[–]say_what_95 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Oh shoot i didnt see your comment here. Here we go. -ive been lurking on this sub for about 36h, enough to find out serious lack of education and bigotry in almost all posts of this sub. Convinces me even more of the logical side of feminism.

You should look more into wage gap, cause where i live and in most patriarcal countries it still exists. Of course its more subtle than that, you have to look at glass ceiling women face, the not same chances at hiring or study, the carr work that isnt being paid and so much more. Why ? Cause patriarchy and misogyny are systemic.

Feminism wouldnt exist without patriarchy? Should i really explain in what this argument isnt valid ? Feminism wouldnt need to exist without patriarchy. Thats it.

[–]Zephyr9865 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Actually, women are way more likely to have chances at studying and hiring.The whole patriarchy thing makes no sense, if this truly was a patriarchy, women wouldn't be able to screw over men in family court the way they do, feminism wouldn't exist(because it would have been shut down by the patriarchy) and many other things.

Why would feminism exist if there wasn't a patriarchy?To establish a matriarchy.They're almost there already.

[–]say_what_95 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What i see is fragile masculinity, that is so afraid of women not obeying to men. Feminism isnt about establishing matriarchy, and we are not even close pf it btw. You cite men being screwed in court, first they are not screwed. Its only fair to pay the woman who will raise your children, and most fathers dont want to take that responsability and prefer to let the woman do it. Second, why is that every time the only argument anti feminists have ? If this is the only place you feel screwed, maybe you should question on every other aspects of institutions and who get screwed in it : women, people of colors, lgbtq+.

And yes the partiarchy exist and try to shut down feminism but it wont succeed, cause women have had enough.

[–]say_what_95 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

https://www.epi.org/publication/what-is-the-gender-pay-gap-and-is-it-real/

Read it, and dont come tell me "but women arent interested in high responsability jobs or better paying jobs" cause that has been demonstrated bullshit. I know you dont want to believe it so bad, but misogyny is in every level of our institution. And sure, academical education isnt the only one, but since i have years of educatio on feminism, and hours of reading and exchanging and interacting in these groups, yes, i absolutely consirer myself more educated than you on this topic.

[–]Zephyr9865 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You've only listened to one side of the argument and now think you're an expert.It's like studying race stuff with the kkk and now you think you're an expert in race.

[–]say_what_95 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sure, except the KKK would be antifeminists in this story, so you would be the intolerant ignorant one. Also feminisms (cause there are more than one) look into the "arguments" of anti feminists, misogynists etc to debunk it with logic (since that seems something you believe in despite not using it in debate). So we have a look on both side to deconstruct it better, but you, what do you know on feminisms beside your emotions based opinion ?

[–]Zephyr9865 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

https://youtu.be/5nmX3R0qHUg

The data on the wage gap is misleading.It's an earnings gap, not wage gap.

[–]say_what_95 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hun im sorry but where are your sources ? This vid isnt a valid one. Also if you agree that earnings gap exist (just another name more specific to talk about the same thing btw), why not agree that we dont get treated the same and that feminism is needed ?

[–]Zephyr9865 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh yeah, watch your grammar, you "educated" individual.

[–]say_what_95 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

English isnt my first language and I sometimes forget to switch my autocorrect from french to english. But thank you for confirming you have no argument, i wasnt expecting more anyway.

[–]Zephyr9865 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly what I said, you are unable to acknowledge anything anti-feminist as logical, no matter if it is or not,thanks to gender studies indoctrination.

English isn't my first language either, but for me it ain't a problem.College "education" doesn't make you smarter.This right here is proof.

[–]Comprehensive_Fly350 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This whole sub is extremely misogynist but due to a lack of education about gender issue, gender history, and societal knowledge, they don’t even know it. On this sub I mostly saw people complain about how women are not housewife anymore, and do not live for men anymore and so on, and a little education explain exactly all these changes and modification

[–]Keyto3 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All they can do here is show us how stupid their arguments are

[–]TheKarmaFarm2 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you ban them, I can’t troll them

[–]Gaminuz123 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah let em scream false accusations

[–]simpslayer888 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, let them trigger themselves endlessly.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Naa, we are better than them

[–]AdministrativeNail69 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you ban all the feminists then how will you get views on your critiques from the other side?

[–]carrenco2 points 4 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Only thing I wanna ban is their O2 supply.

[–]grimmripper5120 -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So mass murder any women that won't bow to your feet... nice... and trashy.

[–]creamachine69 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not scary at all.

[–]Remarkable_Weather21 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

trolls stop voting for yes we wont transform into r/Feminism

[–]awesomemilio 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmao

[–]wh_atsuperother10_9 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I feel that critical discourse on most if not all matters is absolutely critical, so, no, I don't think banning feminists and feminist activists, such as myself, from this sub is productive in any way to critical, civil debate, like I don't really believe it is always productive to ban non-feminists and or anti-feminists, such as yourselves, from feminist subs.

I think the only time at which a ban from a sub could be justified, other than the obvious reasons which most subs have rules-wise, is if it goes against a certain sub's rules.

For example, commenters on some subs, while being able to civilly discord with one another (which is an imperative, in my estimation) require most comments to be from the perspective of the thing for which the sub is, which I think is reasonable.

To illustrate, if this sub required all commenters to be anti-feminist or at least non-feminist, then obviously I would be unallowed to comment on this sub; however, as far as I am aware, this is not a rule, I don't believe.

[–]heS_weiRd -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just saying...lets have a war, lets see who wins😏🥺😂

[–]ImplementNational165 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I just like watching them is kinda pathetic ngl

[–]kinkyonebay 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You do realize a poll like this is useless considering they are brigading the sub right?

[–]coolboy_24278 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

not every feminist tho

[–]Zombiepizzachef 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

HAH

[–]diobreads 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

if we ban them , we'll be just like them. let them come and fight.

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