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Senator Josh Hawley (R-MO) fear mongers about men resorting to pornography and video games. He also supports male only conscription. Traditionalists and social conservatives always demonstrate their opposition to men's rights just like liberals do

JannTosh12

November 4, 2021
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/r/MensRights
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Title Senator Josh Hawley (R-MO) fear mongers about men resorting to pornography and video games. He also supports male only conscription. Traditionalists and social conservatives always demonstrate their opposition to men's rights just like liberals do
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JannTosh12

Upvotes 63
Comments 15
Date November 4, 2021 2:06 AM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/qmaawy/senator_josh_hawley_rmo_fear_mongers_about_men/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/senator-josh-hawley-r-mo-fear-mongers-about-men.1080110
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Comments

[–]Syfri 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I think sending men to war is mostly what you want anyways. Wasn't the argument for conscripting both genders about making it so that no one gets drafted (because who is really going to draft wamen)?

But yeah honestly fuck being pro-draft. The government doesn't own your body.

[–]EpicHajsownik 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Like seriously imagine sending your own citizens into the most dangerous places in war just to "save them"

As long as its men it okay in his mind

[–]isleno -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Imagine what would have happened in WWII if the Allies and Russia had not drafted their citizens... easy for us to say nowadays while living in the Long Peace.

[+]ratione_materiae -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But yeah honestly fuck being pro-draft.

The draft was used out of necessity during the Civil War and WWII. The vast majority of Americans would considered these to have been necessary and righteous conflicts (the Confederacy used conscription too). Would you have preferred that the US not drafted anyone and lost those wars?

The draft a necessary evil. That said, I’m also pro-exclusively-male-conscription because it’s clownworld to suggest that men and women are equally good at all tasks.

[–]Ok_Research219 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The Puritan Police are on the case. 🚨

[–]isleno 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ultimately, I agree with his point. Boys are being marginalized and told that "the future is female" so a non-insignificant percentage of young men have stopped participating. He says they have become idle, which I think is true. He should have stopped his quote there, but his jebus loving fandom hate porn (publicly, at least) so he had to really drive it home. Still a huge huge huge dirtbag.

[–]imjusthereforresearc 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The difference is intent and malice. Conservatives and traditionalists view men in a traditional way. The problem lies in the box they want to fit men into. There isn't malice in it, just a different view of how the world should be.

The feminists have the positions they do because they don't like men. Their positions are based on malice and that is a fundamental difference.

[+][deleted] 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Ok_Research219 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Again with more, men are the problem b.s. They want to talk about men being unproductive but who’s paying for majority of the taxes.

[–]Cryptonite9000 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So let it just all fucking burn. I will watch the decline with a smile on my face. And then watch women trying to fix it.

[–]Ok_Research219 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Considering Rome, Greece, and many other civilizations of their time. All of them fell due to hedonism. Which is what’s going on right now. Even if the economy was saved, unlikely. But let’s say it was. You still have the one main thing that drives an economy which is the source blood of a civilization, people, more specifically the lack of them. It’s happening around the world, Japan, China, South Korea, etc. Any country that has followed suit of modern western society is in turn becoming hedonistic. It’s at the point where governments are getting involved to want people to have kids, government sponsored programs so that that people can get married.

The population is declining and that’s a good way to destroy a government, a civilization. A lot of this is from what? Stuff like this sub, some may want to laugh about it. Which is fine, they can. But when things start turning worse in a generation or even less. Because technology can take over jobs, those machines can make money without anyone. But it’s people that make a society grow.

Considering a lot of men are checking out from playing the game of life. Due to them not having rights or say, when it comes to a lot of issues brought up in this sub, family court, welfare spending on for the most part spent on single mothers, and so on. So with time if things keep going the way they do. It’ll burn, and all men have to do is not play the game, no marriage, no kids. Men around the world are doing this, not playing the game. Until things change for men, there no reason to.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

all men have to do is not play the game, no marriage, no kids. Men around the world are doing this, not playing the game. Until things change for men, there no reason to.

That's what I was getting at with my point above. Men are resorting to video games and porn because it's less stressful than having to deal with all that bullshit.

I don't find that a particularly good or healthy lifestyle (I've been there, I was one of them), but that's how they come to be there.

[–]Reddit1984Censorship 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Liberals are still much much worse not even close so i reject the ''just like liberals''.

[–]Banake 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

“The left want to define traditional masculinity as toxic,” he said. “They want to define the traditional masculine virtues – things like courage, and independence, and assertiveness – as a danger to society.”

Yeah, things such as this that make me see a diference between being "pro-masculinity" and being "pro-men's right."

[–]ajomojo -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What is more anti-men that the prostitution is a felony Texas law?

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