Any fat beta successfully change?

chooseaburner · 2016-07-26T23:13:38+00:00

Some do, some don't, most will probably get about half way.

The aggregate of psychological problems, life style and habits it takes to eat yourself to over 300 pounds isn't easily discarded, especially when you consider that it's probably got a lot to do with reinforcement from outside sources. So you're not merely fighting yourself, you're fighting your family who does not want someone rocking the boat, whom you're probably dependent on because, hey, you're a fat piece of shit.

razormachine · 2016-07-27T02:43:32+00:00

I had 280 and I did it. My advice would be to concentrate on the weight loss. Make a long term goal, weight yourself daily and follow you progress. Long term goal... loooong term. One year from now on I won't be fat!

Guys at the TRP are all about weight lifting, but for fat guys losing fat is nr.1 It has one huge benefit. Man produce estrogen with their fat. Much fat = much estrogen. When you lose fat, you will produce less and less estrogen. You will feel the good Testosterone more and more.

And when you feel that testosterone kicking in, everything is easier. Weightlifting, approaching girls... all of that becomes easy.

zedsdedforever · 2016-07-27T02:03:33+00:00

Yup. Former 270lb highschool fattie that has a successful job and lifted for about 4 years to be 210lb solid. Took alot of hard work and time. PM me if you want to talk.

Docbear64 · 2016-07-27T02:28:08+00:00

At my highest weight I was 325 , at the beginning of my weight loss / Red Pill journey I was 316.6 and now am flirting with 250( 252 this morning) . It's taken a little less than a year and I have been lifting , reading , and just casually gaming women more .

Believe it or not while in the process I have been able to slowly over time notice how women react differently towards me . my Plenty of Fish , OK CUPID, and Tinder were dead a year ago . I would write dating classified ads borderline begging for company and sometimes i might get a first date or fuck someone ugly but it was rare . One night I was laying on my bed and my hip hurt , my legs hurt , and I hated myself .

I researched Keto pre-trp which helped me lose the first 25 lbs . I discovered TRP , finally understood why certain women had been attracted to me when they didn't know me that well ( mystery) and was aloof , others hadn't paid me any mind when I thought I was a perfect gentleman .

So I started lifting on top of my keto and my body has started to develop a shape . I am much more confident with women now because I know that they aren't scary . I used to be terrified of breathing the wrong way and turning off an attractive woman but now I see that they are just people and we have a good time together or we don't but I'm not interested in chasing after ANYBODY.

MY suggestion to you if you are a bigger guy and need a life change is research diets, figure out what kind of food you can eat , and what kind of healthy habits you can start and potentially maintain . For me Keto was ideal , I had tried shake diets but they always left me hungry , I tried salads and still was left hungry often .

A diet where Protein and veggies is the focal point of your eating habits matched my cravings perfectly .

I also recommend reading No More Mr. NiceGuy it is a book that changed my life , it taught me the benefits of selfishness and how people will demonize what's taught here on TRP but you can and only are accountable to yourself. your health , your focus , your energy , it only is beneficial if you take care of yourself first

NeverGoFullPotato · 2016-07-27T01:31:10+00:00

Yep - see a dietician. I completely agree that one should know how to look after yourself, but the truth is at the start I was so ignorant and semi-conscious from eating shit food I didn't know where to begin. Getting help gave me the knowledge to now plan my own diet.

Your average person has no idea how awful most food in the supermarket is.

volkoff123 · 2016-07-27T00:25:52+00:00

Used to be athletic, then got very fat (not 300 pounds thank god), now working my way back. Haven't made it all but I am on the way.

Don't know if you are asking for yourself or just out of interest but here goes:

The advantage fatties tend to have is that many are naturally strong from lugging all that extra blubber around.

Secondly if you are young enough and have a good appropriate diet, you can re-proportion your body quite quickly. As in you might lose a little fat and put on some muscle but that can drastically change your body shape.

Another advantage lardies have is that they tend to have addictive personalities (true in my case at least). Hence once the habits of healthy eating and a good exercise routing are established, they are pretty easy to stick to and become somewhat essential. I just don't feel right if I skip workout days.

Chunkies also tend to have an issue with motivation, discipline, and lack self control. So they get fat, and fat can be metabolically active, plus the extra weight makes you sweaty, lazy, clumsy, etc. all these things feed into a cycle that encourages eating and makes exercise and being active hard to do.

So you need to become disciplined. Every week sunday sit and plan all your meals (whether home cook, store bought, restaurant, etc) and your gym routines - and then stick to it. No more snacking at all. No more indecision and eating crap.

And if you are fat then you probably have many issues that contributed to it. Time to face them and sort them out. Normal healthy people don't engorge themselves to such an extent that they have their own interplanetary gravitational pull.

In my case, boredom, lack of a plan and discipline, convenience and comfort of fast food plus other things contributed.

Spend one day (NO MORE), researching and make a plan and dive straight in for a month solid. No tweaks, no deviation from the plan. Workout 5 times a week - MWF 5x5 compound lift routine, Tues and Thurs - HIIT cardio running or on bike or row - makes a huge difference. Remember you are not some skinny trying to make gainz only. Avoid supplements and shit - nutrients and calories is not something you will lack lardass.

Personally I think using just a scale to measure weight is a poor outcome measurement. I also noted down how much I can lift in the beginning, used a tape measurement to assess my belly and waist size, measured the tits and thighs - then I didn't check anything for 30 days. I noticed that sometimes I only lost a few pounds on the scale but my body shape changed and fat rolls changed drastically.

Finally, diet is the most important aspect of all this - you cant out run or out lift your fork. Remember you are not really dieting - you are making a huge lifestyle change. this isn't only for 6months or whatever. You got so fat as you eat crap. People on heathy diets might overeat and get chubby but they don't balloon into a zeppelin. Those who overeat crap do.

So in essence, it is more than possible, but takes a lot of willpower and discipline to start the journey

Its exactly the same as hard drug addicts - some can just pull themselves up and out, and others, regardless of the help available and their cognisance of the consequences, just end up in an early grave or with a ruined life.

niczar · 2016-07-27T04:44:16+00:00

Go to /r/keto to lose the weight, it's really easy. No willpower required, just discipline.

rollhax · 2016-07-27T06:03:35+00:00

I was close to 300 when I booted my ex out. 1.5yr later I'm around 160 with visible abs (although not a lot of definition yet).

It takes dedication. A lot. Proper motivation is key.

trpthroway123 · 2016-07-27T13:02:53+00:00

I was 285lbs in high school. I was never a full blown loser (I was getting laid with some pretty girls, even then), but I certainly wasn't anywhere near as socially competent as I am now, let alone, an alpha.

I lost about 120lbs over a few years, grew a beard, got rid of the glasses, started dressing well, and found alpha style thinking back when PUA was still cool.

I've packed on another 20lbs of muscle, and keep refining my skills. Improve a little bit every day, and you'll make a huge change over time. You're climbing a mountain, not jumping off a cliff.

The biggest thing to remember is that a day of fucking up can cancel out a week of progress. 3,500 calories to a pound of fat. Might take you all week at -500/cal/day to lose a pound, but we both know eating 3,500 calories of ice cream or cookies in a day isn't exactly hard to do. Change your lifestyle, don't make it an activity or task.

For reference, I'm incredibly happy, happier than I've ever been. More successful than I've ever been. More happy and successful than most of my peers, even those I looked up to in the past. I know I wouldn't be here today if I didn't start down this path all those years ago. My only regret is not starting sooner.

brooklynisburnin · 2016-07-27T15:37:42+00:00

300lb+ was my heaviest, three years ago, at 6'2.

Now I'm 205 and still going strong, around 18%BF, maybe less, maxes are SQ 3 plates for reps, DL 4 plates for reps, BP 2 plates for reps, OHP 1 & 1/2 plates for 1RM.

I'm not jacked, but definitely athletic, could definitely use more mass, but given the fact that I've never bulked yet, I'm cool with it.

LLL3peat · 2016-07-27T00:26:19+00:00

I did the 180 and was the fat kid who changed. Got comfy in a relationship and things changed. Now I'm getting back to where I was before. I'll comment again when I'm done at the gym and explain. Most of the things said here are spot on.

randarrow · 2016-07-27T02:05:22+00:00

Fatty here. I'm 1/3 to 1/2 of the way to where I need to be from where I was. Could you be specific about your questions?

Advice I would give:

Get checked for sleep disorders.
Work out, but don't over do it, learn about physical over training.
Avoid all sweeteners/sweet things, artificial or natural.
Figure out what works for you in diet, exercise, lifestyle, socially.
Learn signs of nutrient deficiency (What does a phosphorus deficiency feel like?)
Don't lie to yourself.

LLL3peat · 2016-07-27T03:07:41+00:00

so now that you have my attention, what are you asking specifially.? yes i lost weight, it changed my life.

Lift. will change your mentality and when you have a goal you have a purpose and thats an attractive trait to all people who see you.

wear clothes that fit. doesnt matter if you lost 10 pounds and still have 100 to go. clothes that fit show you take care of yourself. boosts SMV from both sexes via relationships and wokplace

game. figure out who you want to be. become confident in your own abilities and saying less is really doing more. for example i was at lunch today with some coworkers and we have a new worker there. she is a good HB9 or so. introduced myself and she isnt on my radar. but the two other guys who came along kept talking and proving their point in front of said coworker. they got up to order more food or something and the HB9 asked about me and said i was interesting. talked a little and told her about a hobby she overheard. invited her out of work to show my hobby. dont shit where you eat but then again i have no interest in her. just boosting social proof within the office and practicing safe game.

friends. they will try and get you into your old ways. want to change? they have the crabs in a bucket mentality. change who you are and your goals and they will always see the old you. try and get you to go get pizza and booze instead of lifting and water.

at the end of the day lifting keeps you out of so much trouble and gets you ahead in life. keeps you away from drugs, getting fat as you care about your physique, and you will feel more confident in your wardrobe and persona. its overall a win win situation.

edwardhwhite · 2016-07-30T16:11:04+00:00

Work out in the AM before you have breakfast. Change what you eat. I skip lunch but always eat a little if I feel hunger, usually almonds.

Title	Any fat beta successfully change?
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Date	July 26, 2016 9:34 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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