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“Ontario’s Jan. 1 law change will affect wills of divorced people — The Globe and Mail” - protection from predatory marriage.

Doc911

December 29, 2021
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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/investing/personal-finance/household-finances/article-ontarios-jan-1-law-change-will-affect-wills-of-divorced-people/
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Title “Ontario’s Jan. 1 law change will affect wills of divorced people — The Globe and Mail” - protection from predatory marriage.
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Doc911

Upvotes 28
Comments 14
Date December 29, 2021 10:47 AM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
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[–]goinsouth85 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This new Ontario law is already the law in many of the United States and has been for a long time. Also, not sure about Ontario, but the decedent's spouse is not completely cut out - in many of not all states, they do get what is known as an elective share or a share of the marital estate.

[–]Doc911[S] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for an informative reply. With this law in ON, in the absence of a new Will, all goes to children. The ex-spouse is considered as good as non existant, the new spouse does not replace the prior goal of ensuring that after divorce in the absence if a clear new Will, the children are the beneficiary.

[–]Spiritual-Muscle-860 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What's a predatory marriage?

[–]wikipedia_answer_bot 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Predatory marriage is the practice of marrying an elderly person exclusively for the purpose of gaining access to their estate upon their death. While the requirements for mental capacity to make a valid will are high, in most jurisdictions the requirements for entering into a valid marriage are much lower; even a person suffering dementia may enter into marriage.

More details here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predatory_marriage

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[–]Spiritual-Muscle-860 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's horrible, the things people do, and this one clearly makes a person look like such a tramp in front of everyone that the lack of embarrassment is shocking plus the lack of guilt

[–]xTheVyrusx 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She basically no man can get Anna Nicole Smithed?

[–]Wolffsrain 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Ok.... So make a new will. No need to read the whole article, unless I'm missing something else?

[–]Doc911[S] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Not everyone does after a marriage, some don’t know it invalidates the previous. Yes, make a new will fixes it … but if this law needed to be changed, it’s because “make a new will” was not enough to protect people, many of them men with the fruits of their labour.

[–]velvetalocasia -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

It’s for sure not to protect men…..you can’t enjoy the „fruits of your labour“ anymore once your dead.

[–]Doc911[S] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I can make sure that despite my dementia at 80, some 50 year old pretending to love me doesn’t get all our land, real estate, money. That it goes to my family, a thought that does bring me joy today, and tends to be the main concern of many men who have been successful in life as they near its end.

This is a typical discussion for elderly men who have sold companies, they celebrate and enjoy the knowledge of what they leave to their loved ones. And, anyone, rich or not, who has worked hard and earned what they have, should benefit from the same protection afforded those who have lawyers on retainer just for their family trust.

Predatory marriage is an actual thing, hence it is the impetus for this law. If it didn’t exist, and didn’t exist in great numbers, there would be no need for this law.

[–]UnconventionalXY 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Predatory marriage law to save the resources of elderly men from gold-diggers, but not for younger men from largely similar circumstances of what are effectively mercenary marriages designed to extract resources from men for 20 years for each child without compensation.

[+]velvetalocasia -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Everyone, no matter how much or little they have, should make sure to have a valid will and that they know what they get themselves into.

Still what happens after your death will not concern you anymore🤷🏻‍♀️.

[–]Doc911[S] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There are many for whom, what happens after their death, is the closure of their live’s work and their final joy in sharing their success with their loved ones. “Will not concern you” doesn’t change that it IS a concern for many as they approach the winter of their days, and frankly if it was of so little concern for everyone Wills would not exist …

[–]velvetalocasia -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As I said, everyone should have a will and not only when you approach the „winter of your days“……everyone should have it much much earlier.

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