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Parents who retrieved soldier son's sperm after he was killed fight to create grandkids

wolfoftheworld

January 27, 2022
23 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/parents-who-retrieved-soldier-sons-26052714
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Title Parents who retrieved soldier son's sperm after he was killed fight to create grandkids
Author

wolfoftheworld

Upvotes 23
Comments 13
Date January 27, 2022 4:24 AM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/sdppb4/parents_who_retrieved_soldier_sons_sperm_after_he/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/parents-who-retrieved-soldier-sons-sperm-after-he.1097344
https://theredarchive.com/post/1097344
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Comments

[–]Dispositionate 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

“The terrorist stopped me from being a parent, but I do not want him to stop me from being a grandparent.”

So you...harvested your dead son's sperm (I don't even wanna know how) just because YOU want grandkids? That's selfish (and creepy) on a level most people couldn't imagine...

Frankly, I'm glad they're blocking him. Fucking wierdo

[–]wolfoftheworld[S] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, very creepy! I'm glad they're blocking him as well.

[–]Gries88 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How creepy! What the hell is wrong with people.

[–]wolfoftheworld[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree.

[–]wolfoftheworld[S] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

To me, this seems like a social issue. I acknowledge there is probably still strong tradition in some cultures to have heirs, but to me this takes it a little too far.

Somebody in the comments section in this link said that the child wouldn't have a father or a mother, just aging grandparents to raise the child. The grandparents use the reasoning that when their son was alive that "he wanted to be a father." I say, yes. When he was alive, perhaps. But not when he is dead.

This screams "grandparent entitlement." This child won't know either biological parent. To think, if something happens to the grandparents (illness etc) then that child will be rendered an orphan. Just another mouth to feed in this world.

[+]Bowlnk -9 points-8 points-7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Why do i get the distinct impression you are joined to r/antinatalism

[–]bluechair01 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Careful, you're strawmanning

[–]SunosUnix 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nobody light a match, we got a strawman over here...

[–]zogins 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I am glad, reading the comments, that I am not alone in finding such attempts at having children at all costs weird and also distastesful.

This comes form a man in his mid 40s with a 6 year old son. My wife is 36. Had we waited a while longer - there would probably have been difficulties in conceiving.

But people need to understand that we do not have the right to have children. I may come across as insensitive, but in my country the state is now paying for all fertility treatments including in vitro fertilisation. Couples go through a lot when they sign up for in vitro attempts at conceiving. The costs (born by other tax payers) are also prohibitive.

There are thousands if not millions of little children without parents. Had my wife and I had problems conceiving we would have gone for adoption, and though we have not discussed it, I see nothing wrong in adopting our next child.

[–]wolfoftheworld[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I love your views on adoption. You are so correct in the fact that there are many kids who don't have parents and deserve that love. I support good and loving foster parents all the way who have opened their hearts to orphaned or unloved children over the years.

[–]UnconventionalXY 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

However, in this case, would society consider adopting out to the elderly who have already had their reproductive turn, when younger people are clamouring for adoptive children? There aren't enough children available for adoption even for the young.

I'm sorry those people are mourning the loss of their son, but children aren't simply products for gratification and comfort to their parents (or grandparents): their lives may have positive spinoff consequences to others, but they should be foremost being created for themselves, to experience their own sovereign lives.

Having said that, I think it is just as objectionable for people to go to extreme lengths of fertility treatments because they want a child for their own reasons as it is for those elderly parents to want a child from their dead son to ease their grief, as it is to create a child to be used as spare parts to improve the life of another child: it's all selfish instead of considering the life of the child that is being created as the reason. Simply wanting something is not sufficient justification for it coming into being.

[–]imnotsuicidalno 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

expected... im fucking done with this world

[–]crippledhermit 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Too far.

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