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Telstra targets gender super gap | This is, surprisingly, a seemingly fair and gender-neutral strategy. I like it. Should help to encourage men to take more paternity leave.

EricAllonde

February 10, 2022
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Title Telstra targets gender super gap | This is, surprisingly, a seemingly fair and gender-neutral strategy. I like it. Should help to encourage men to take more paternity leave.
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EricAllonde

Upvotes 16
Comments 8
Date February 10, 2022 12:31 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/sp5jt6/telstra_targets_gender_super_gap_this_is/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/telstra-targets-gender-super-gap-this-is.1101409
https://theredarchive.com/post/1101409
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[–]CawlinAlcarz 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I think in the US at least, the reason more men don't take paternity leave is that it's not fully paid everywhere.

If you're in a state where FMLA is not fully paid, chances are that the wife is going to take some FMLA time after giving birth - and have the pay capped at something like 60% of regular full pay.

If the husband takes the same amount of leave and his salary is also capped at 60% of full pay the family takes a full 40% pay cut for the duration that they're both on leave.

If I had to bet, I'd bet that's why more men don't take paternity leave.

Further, I'd be suspicious as a man, that taking any sort of extended paternity leave (beyond a few weeks), that I'd return to a poisoned well with regard to my future at the company.

I KNOW the law and HR is supposed to protect against the concept of the "poisoned well" but everyone knows how that REALLY works from the perspective of the worker.

We also know that if a woman complained of a poisoned well after returning from maternity leave, it would be splashed all over the news with tons of media coverage.

If a man complained about a poisoned well, the only media coverage of it would be to ask if the guy needed to be put under watch for potential terrorist workplace shootings in the future.

[–]Frosty-Gate-8094 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it makes sense.. I would add that, in nearly 60-70% households the husband earns more than the wife. So, a 40% pay cut to husband is more substantial than a 40% pay cut to wife...

I think that may play an important role in the decision as who takes the parental leave.

[–]OldEgalitarianMRA 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is gender neutral but will "help women more than men". So it must be OK. /s

[–]arrouk 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I actually think this will help men more, 24 month of paid parental leave is epic, I wish I had that kind of time when my kids were young.

[–]rabel111 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This is a good initiative. One area where women do suffer injustice is in child birth and early parenting, when they miss out on income, and superannuation contributions due to child care work.

As the benefit is gender neutral and will be paid for men or women (covers the stay at home dad), it provides a much needed address of loss of income for PARENTS.

Of course, the issue isn't a bad as feminists make out when they compare the superannuation of women to men, forgetting that for married or co-habitating couples, partners are entitled to half their partners superannuation. So when a women takes time off work for child birth/care, she is automatically entitled to the super the father is earning. They always leave this out of the femsplaining about wage gap.

[–]tenchineuro 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is a good initiative. One area where women do suffer injustice is in child birth and early parenting

What does the concept of justice have to do with biological reality?

when they miss out on income,

Which is what they really care about. So they should not have children, problem solved.

As the benefit is gender neutral and will be paid for men or women (covers the stay at home dad), it provides a much needed address of loss of income for PARENTS.

It does not address income at all.

  • Telstra is taking aim at the gender super gap by paying superannuation contributions to its workers while they are on unpaid parental leave

[–]rabel111 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It is biological. So why ignore the consequences. The issue being discussed was money. Both fathers and mother are entitle to unpaid parental leave.

[–]tenchineuro 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is biological. So why ignore the consequences.

Who ignores the consequences?

The issue being discussed was money.

The article says that Telstra is only paying the super.

Both fathers and mother are entitle to unpaid parental leave.

Theoretically.

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