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The left finally started caring about gender discrimination for Ukrainian refugees! "Trans women turned back at Ukraine’s borders"

for_against

March 22, 2022
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https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2022/mar/22/i-will-not-be-held-prisoner-the-trans-women-turned-back-at-ukraines-borders
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Title The left finally started caring about gender discrimination for Ukrainian refugees! "Trans women turned back at Ukraine’s borders"
Author

for_against

Upvotes 7
Comments 24
Date March 22, 2022 1:45 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/tk3cvl/the_left_finally_started_caring_about_gender/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/the-left-finally-started-caring-about-gender.1108099
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Comments

[–]mattmilli0pics 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I’m confused. Should she not do her duty and fight as well.

[–]for_against[S] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm curious why they didn't interview any f->m transgender people. Are they not being discriminated?

[–]mattmilli0pics 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea good point. Also shouldn’t a percentage of the women without kids fight as well? I think Israel and China do that.

[–]OldEgalitarianMRA 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I believe the draft should be equal for man, women and LGTBQ+ people. That is the basis of the case brought this year to gain draft equality for all.

I wonder if transexual men are allowed to fight in the Ukrainian military?

[–]LittleDragonMaiden 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

Eastern Europe is notoriously anti LGBT. I don’t know why anyone is surprised that trans women are told to go to their country to fight.

[–]for_against[S] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

Have you ever been to Eastern Europe? Nobody there ever cared if you were gay until the LGBT started in with the gender ideology. This article demonstrates that gender ideology is B.S., so I'm not sure what your point is.

[–]LittleDragonMaiden 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I’m Russian.

[–]for_against[S] -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Ok, so you (claim to) have been in Eastern Europe. Now explain to me what this post Has to do with being "anti-lgbt", other than the fact that people should be against gender ideology if they are sane?

[–]LittleDragonMaiden 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I just think it’s ridiculous for the left to be surprised that trans women are being told to go and fight. What is there to be surprised about? It’s barely news worthy.

[–]for_against[S] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Well, according to the Guardian, that makes you "anti-LGBT".

[–]LittleDragonMaiden 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I’d like to add that I don’t exactly agree with trans women or anyone being forced to fight, I think people should fight for their country but it should be completely voluntary, never forced. I can’t fully be honest about my opinion on…the alphabet community but I’m Russian Orthodox so you can take a guess.

[–]for_against[S] -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I can't take a guess, because you seem to have changed your opinion three or four times just in this conversation.

[–]LittleDragonMaiden 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Where do you think I changed my mind?

[–]MostLikelyPoopingRN -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Where does this idea even come from? You have a very warped perspective.

[–]for_against[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Why don't you go back to things you understand - like pooping.

[–]MostLikelyPoopingRN -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Lol ok weird response which confirms you know absolutely nothing of what you’re (trying) to talk about.

[–]for_against[S] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I was commenting on your accurate username.

All you did was share your feelings, there wasn't even an attempt at making an argument on your part. I don't blame you though, gender ideology is hard to defend.

[–]MostLikelyPoopingRN -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Damn you are such a little confused person. I’m totally aware I didn’t make an attempt to argue, that was intentional you numbskull. I asked you a question which you still haven’t answered. And at this point it’s quite clear why. Having lived in Eastern Europe myself (with another Russian user here also pointing out you’re wrong), you should give humility a try and admit you’re wrong.

[–]for_against[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Maybe this sub should do something about Russian trolls like you. Even your supposed "question" was a nonsequitur. idi na chuj.

[–]MostLikelyPoopingRN 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Russian troll because I say Russia/eastern Europe has been homophobic for a looong time? Ok you are definitely a special one, doesn’t seem like there’s anything left that can help you.

[–]for_against[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It was your alt account that said that.

[–]MostLikelyPoopingRN1 point 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

That said what?

Actually Nevermimd. You’re either a troll or mentally deficient. Either way I’ve wasted too much time on you already

[–]for_against1 point 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Next time, why don't you try figuring out what your point is, and arguing it, instead of using sockpuppets and smearing your emotions all over the wall.

[–]autotldr 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 89%. (I'm a bot)


According to the International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association, Ukraine ranks 39th out of 49 European countries for its overall treatment of LGBTQ+ people.

Since 2017, trans people in Ukraine have been legally recognised, but must undergo extensive psychiatric observation and a lengthy bureaucratic process before their gender can be reflected on formal documents.

"Technically, the law applies to trans people as well, including both certified trans men and trans women who had not changed their documents. But it sounds like Ukrainian border guards are preventing even trans people with a valid certificate reflecting their new gender from leaving Ukraine, and nobody knows why."


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