Bullies are happier, have more sex appeal, says study. So science seem to confirm that RPs ideal masculinity is a good strategy and possibly just human nature... so what's your response?

RedPillDetox · 2022-03-28T09:14:59+00:00

You're a fucking idiot. I checked the original source. Here it goes:

SAMPLE:

50% of the sample was FEMALE. Which is obviously going to skew the results, particularly in the sexual debut perspective. HOWEVER, they didn't even measure actual sexual behavior, they simply conclude bullies have more sex appeal because they SELF REPORT to have higher social status, and the authors make the case that this is kinda connected to being sexually attractive LMAO okay.

This was done in a sample of 8th, 9th and 10th graders. Which are probably not models of sexual behavior in general. Nor models of anything in general other than youth stupidity.

RESULTS:

As for the results, here's what the results say:

Post hoc comparisons among the groups revealed that bullies (M = 5.62, SD = 4.21) had a significantly lower level of depression than bully/victims (M = 17.9, SD = 13.14), p = .047. Comparisons of bullies with victims (M = 13.78, SD = 8.39) and bystanders (M = 7.37, SD = 7.45) were not statistically significant

So Bullies only have lower depression than the Bully/Victims, but not the other people.

Post hoc analysis showed that bullies (M = 27.69, SD = 2.02) had significantly higher self-esteem than bully/victims (M = 24.64, SD = 2.38, p = .015). The analysis also revealed that bystanders (M = 26.99, SD = 1.96) had significantly higher self-esteem than victims (M = 26.5, SD = 2.42), p = .037. The comparison of bullies with victims was not statistically significant.

So,in terms of self-esteem, and once again, Bullies have higher self-esteem than Bully/Victims, but not Victims.

Post hoc analysis indicated that bullies (M = 9.0, SD = 3.51) had a significantly higher social status than bully/victims (M = 4.0, SD = 3.71), p = .013. The analysis also found that bystanders (M = 8.74, SD = 2.58) had a significantly higher social status than bully/victims, p = .008. The comparison between bullies and victims (M = 7.2, SD = 2.38) was not statistically significant (see Table 2).

Same pattern for Social Status. Bullies only got higher social status than Bully/Victims but not everybody else.

Social anxiety. No statistically significant differences among the groups were found on the two clusters of the SAAS.

This one is self-explanatory ^{^{^{^{^}}}}

So to answer your question... "So science seem to confirm that RPs ideal masculinity is a good strategy and possibly just human nature... so what's your response?"... My response is that you're an endoctrinated idiot, who instead of educating himself on science and checking the original sources, comes here shouting "checkmate" and making a fool out of himself publically.

lawrieee · 2022-03-27T17:07:07+00:00

Most studies can't be reproduced, so I'll just say I straight up don't believe it. Also the bullies at my school went to prison, I'm not sure I'm jealous of the sex they're having in there.

Jakdaxter31 · 2022-03-27T17:24:43+00:00

Lmao based on a questionnaire answered by 13 to 16 year olds to determine if they’re bullies or being bullied.

Edit: holy shit it’s actually a self fulfilling prophecy.

“Study find that when you define people who have more self esteem as bullies, then bullies seem to have more self esteem”

Cheshiregrin85 · 2022-03-27T16:57:02+00:00

They don't have more sex appeal they just ask more people out which means a higher chance of someone saying yes,it's a numbers game,as for happier I doubt they'd admit to being unhappy since it would be viewed as a sign of weakness's so how many are actually happy is questionable and for those who are I'd assume its because they have a social network, low awareness levels which correlates to more happiness and less stress which could explain their sense of undeserved confidence it's called the Dunning Kruger effect and it means people who are less intelligent have a higher estimation of their abilities.

sawyer94117 · 2022-03-27T17:51:29+00:00

The red pill says that certain types of people are happier. Then they say, "here's how you can be a terrible person, like those happy people." But, if you aren't a terrible person to begin with it's not going to work. The "bullies," they aren't bothered by the terrible things they do. You will be. You have empathy. If you didn't have it, you would have been one of those bullies a long time ago. You won't be happier or sexier if you pretend to be a bully. Just because you start bullying people and being shitty to women, that's not going to morph you into the sort of person who is a bully in school. So, what's going to happen instead is your going to turn into this person who bullies but feels guilty about it. You'll get a couple of dates out of it, because you'll actually be doing something instead of doing the same thing and expecting different results. But you'll have no chance of a meaning relationship with these dates, you might have some sex but it won't be very good, then you'll realize that you still aren't matching up to shit heads you idolize. You'll still be miserable, it'll just be an even more bitter and hate filled miserable that eats at your soul.

Sounds like fun. Go for it.

2022-03-27T17:32:13+00:00

She noted that her findings are limited by a small sample size that
lacks ethnic diversity and by the possibility of omitted variables, such
as how psychopathology may influence a child’s depression level and
likelihood of becoming a bully.

This is literally in the article.

ChaiVangForever · 2022-03-27T19:20:06+00:00

There’s so much more life to live after adolescence. I think bullies are in fact fucked when they have to enter adulthood.

sawyer94117 · 2022-03-27T23:53:49+00:00

This is like saying "drugs make people happier and more willing to seek out risky behavior".

You gotta ask why? What function is this fulfilling? And, like any other "high", you build a tolerance and have to go for more. It's not addressing the underlying behavior. Like putting an ever bigger bandaid on a wound that festers more and more.

Also sounds like the definition of "peaked in high school".

(From an evolutionary perspective, the aggressiveness can be seen as an indicator of willingness to compete/fight dangers that may come along. However, this sort of thing, in today's world doesn't have much traction past high school. Try bullying an office of mature adults and seek how long they'll put up with it. When we're still developing we seek approval or disapproval for our actions. The decent and indifferent stay silent, or speak gently. Therefore it's the jerks that speak loudest.)

DanMarinosDolphins · 2022-03-27T17:32:14+00:00

It's better to go to the original study and not trust these click bait articles made to grab your attention.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0886260515593546

I can't find the full study for free, but there's so key points to note in the abstract. First, these are children not adults that were studied. And both male and female children. It was also just 135 children and all from the same very specific area.

The results showed that bullies were more popular at school and had less poor mental health than those who were bullied.

I think something important to remember as well, is we live in a very homosexual society where men try to impress other men more than they try to impress women. So popularity among men usually points to them being popular among other men, not necessarily popular with women.

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Red_Trapezoid · 2022-03-27T18:34:53+00:00

The last paragraph casts justifiable doubt on this study. I work in education and every bully I've taught has had some underlying issue at home or at school. Most of the time it's god awful parents. Also assuming they are happier, happier when? Because my bullies from school who didn't sort themselves out are currently living some of the most embarrassingly subpar and squalid lives you can imagine.

2022-03-28T00:18:06+00:00

There is a study, Provenzano 2017, that yields the same results on women who bully. Younger (13-15) and older (16-19) adolescents were interviewed and asked about their treatment of classmates, their personality, and their sexual partners. Extroverted and bullying girls had more sex. Although the biggest predictor in the study was the age of the students; the older they were, the more sex they had had. And another strong predictor was extraversion. Only in the younger adolescent group was a more direct relationship found between aggression and number of sexual relations.

This study was used by the manosphere boys until they realized that it was talking about female stalkers and not male stalkers.

But my point is, these kinds of findings are not limited to men. So to adduce these kinds of results to a female preference for abuse or a toxic model of masculinity is wrong. People seem to be seduced by people with antisocial traits who are extroverted.

AutoModerator · 2022-03-28T01:08:58+00:00

This study compared bullies and victims of bullying. But did it ever compare the bullies to social well adjusted students who didn't bully and didn't get bullied? Its pretty obvious me that the kinds of personality that attracts bullying and the trauma from bullying may have a negative impact on your life.

Terrible-Ad3405 · 2022-03-28T19:23:24+00:00

I mean the actual study source is also including women….

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