What do you think of some red pillers (even some women) saying that women should be submissive in a relationship? I mean in terms of being obedient, not just „respectful and gentle“

Often they will say things like „men are more drawn to leadership“, which is true but only within the corporate world. There indeed men tend to be more drawn to have leadership roles while women prefer other jobs, tho many women also like to be in leadership. But does this mean women have to obey their husbands? And they will conclude with their pseudo scientific statement alone „women are more drawn to submitting“. But does this even make sense? I mean these people non stop complain or mention how women these days aren’t submissive enough (or even use words like obedient) but also claim that women being submissive is „a natural rule“. That is just paradox. If women were naturally submissive, they would act on it.

Hence the overall notion doesn’t make sense to me…