Shaming Men for 'not opening up about mental health' is not helping any Men open up about mental health; please put an end to this, society

PQKN051502 · 2022-05-14T06:07:28+00:00

I agree with you. It is unacceptable to shame anyone with mental health issues for not wanting to open up. Shaming just makes things worse. It makes people feel more guilty.

People also BLAME male suicides on men. They blame male suicide on masculinity. They blame men for not seeking help, for not opening up. (the truth is 91% of men who committed suicide did seek help before doing it).

Even after a man die by suicide, people still blame everything on him.

Blaming and shaming just make men feel worse. I wonder if people really want to help or if they are pretending to care about men.
Victim-blaming suicidal and depressed men is not acceptable. People need to stop.

iainmf · 2022-05-14T06:46:24+00:00

'open up' is the new 'man up'

DaLordOfDarkness · 2022-05-14T06:34:33+00:00

After all, when they open up about it, they’re shamed and nobody listen to them.

shit-zen-giggles · 2022-05-14T05:42:01+00:00

You're right on the money here. Thankfully change is on the way:

https://www.centreformalepsychology.com/

https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-04384-1

https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-86320-3

https://www.wiley.com/en-gb/Perspectives+in+Male+Psychology:+An+Introduction-p-9781119685357

also: https://www.centreformalepsychology.com/male-psychology-magazine-listings/the-apa-have-changed-their-view-of-masculinity

OldEgalitarianMRA · 2022-05-14T11:28:44+00:00

It's just blaming men for men's problems.

Men need to solve these problems, don't expect the feminized mental health profession to help without being pushed. I see a change in my lifetime with men being known for suffering from high suicide rates.

When a man commits suicide the biggest victims are the remaining wife and children./s

odysseytree · 2022-05-14T10:00:42+00:00

Men do open up with selective male friends. Men, do not open up with your partner, you will be dumped. It's a time tested experience of many men. Open up with your closest male friend, he will see you from the male lens and understand where you are coming from.

IVIaskerade · 2022-05-14T12:33:53+00:00

Basically any attempt to get a man to "open up" is going to police men when they try, because the ways men open up don't fit with what they've been taught so they aren't prepared to do it.

eighteensevensaid · 2022-05-14T15:14:31+00:00

There should really some consideration as to way men don’t,

Low emotional literacy because we are taught that fine or angry are the only valid male emotions.

Men are generally expected to get on with meeting constructed expectations. If we can’t then we are embarrassed by others and lose kudos and respect.

Women rightly worry about being killed and that is understandable as women are viewed as Victims by everyone. However men are viewed as the perpetrators and there not accepted as a victim when things do happen. As a result we are all in fear of being called a rapist or a DV perp. As a result we can be vulnerable to coercion and control without real recourse.
Eg. Depp is spending millions to clear his name because his ex decided to alter his narrative with little or no real evidence.

And this is why male suicide is rising sharply.

skirted_dork · 2022-05-14T16:14:35+00:00

Shaming is bad, but what's worst is when you finally can't take it anymore and decide to share, only to be completely dismissed/disregarded.

TracyMorganFreeman · 2022-05-15T00:04:54+00:00

A recent study found that of men who committed suicide, 89% sought professional help of some kind within 6 months of their death.

It's not men are unwilling to open up. It's that whenever they do no one seems willing or able to help them.

Echo_XB3 · 2022-05-14T19:31:38+00:00

I accidentaly read "please put an emd to this soceity" and not "please put an end to this, society" xD

UnfurtletDawn · 2022-05-14T20:30:09+00:00

Seems similar to when my mom was telling me that my stutter annoys her. Well I just stopped talking to her. No hard feelings if it annoys someone I understand it, it annoys me too.

Well after some weeks of me basically responding with just shaking head to her or one worded answers she asked me why I don't talk with her...

She genuinely thought it would help. I don't know why she thought that.

happyness423 · 2022-05-15T00:41:21+00:00

This is the equivalent of “calm down.”

Morden013 · 2022-05-15T12:55:26+00:00

First shaming to open up. Then shaming for opening up and being "weak".

Title	Shaming Men for 'not opening up about mental health' is not helping any Men open up about mental health; please put an end to this, society
Author	Heavy_Grand2526
Upvotes	320
Comments	14
Date	May 14, 2022 4:38 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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