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Unborn Child Support Act

rbrockway

August 2, 2022
28 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.cramer.senate.gov/news/press-releases/sen-cramer-rep-johnson-introduce-bicameral-legislation-to-allow-pregnant-mothers-to-receive-child-support
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Title Unborn Child Support Act
Author

rbrockway

Upvotes 28
Comments 18
Date August 2, 2022 3:14 AM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/we0pwf/unborn_child_support_act/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/unborn-child-support-act.1126189
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Comments

[–]Solid-Perspective98 36 points37 points38 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Mandates that all paternity tests be at the discretion of the mother and not be conducted if the test would put the child at risk.

Does this mean a pregnant woman can unilaterally declare that a man is the unborn child's father and the 'father' has no way to contest it? What happens if the man is subsequently proven to not be the child's father? Can he recover the payments? What if the father has no access to the child and is unable to conduct a post birth paternity test?

[–]Suspicious-Sleep5227 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sadly I fear that these valid, common sense arguments are going to get drowned out by the thunderous applause from the champions of feminism

[–]MGTOW_and_Bitcoin 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well legally he'll be considered the father simply because he was paying along the way which coincides with current Family Court assumptions

[–]the-lone-squid 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

can he recover the payments

🤣🤣🤣

[–]TracyMorganFreeman 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hey look, a convergence of tradcons and feminists.

[–]NutsLikeMelons 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So what happens when you pay from conception and she gets an abortion later on... Or it turns out you aren’t the father after all... Do you get a refund? If I was a young man again I would be preparing to be a virgin until after vasectomy. Time for men to come together and stop giving these women attention, money and sex.

[–]KazukiYahashi 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No DNA test, no child support. I can’t believe common sense isn’t so common…

[–]Maxwell1138 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What fresh hell is this...

[–]Suspicious-Sleep5227 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This kind of language is far too prevalent this day & age:

“Parents know that the cost of raising a child begins long before birth, and fathers need to take responsibility,“ said Senator Daines.

It is dripping with condescension and works to reinforce that image of men as not fully formed adults. That more than anything is why I am in the men’s rights camp. I feel like a social punching bag whenever I hear anyone speech like this.

Also the whole “paternity testing at the mother’s discretion” is BS if the presumed father is disputing paternity.

[–]the-lone-squid 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you're still participating in hookup culture, you're playing with fire

[–]LongDistRider 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Vasectomy is awesome. Condoms work in a pinch.

[–]Disastrous-Pace-1929 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Won’t matter if she names you the father.

[–]NTWM420 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wtf, this is getting out of hand. Handmaids tale anyone?

No DNA test in the womb no CS. Fuck them, if it puts them at risk you dont need a DNA test but still get CS. Fucking aye.

[–]Aggressive-Funny-527 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The whole child support issue is a byproduct of a much bigger problem facing men. It's always been in the spotlight but especially moreso now after Roe was overturned, and that issue is reproductive rights. Women's reproductive rights are infinite, in terms of endless forms of highly effective birth control and even abortion (which might be limited or end in some states but will still always be available). But men's reproductive rights are basically limited to using condoms or withdrawal, neither of which is particularly effective, and nowhere near as effective and easy to use as women's birth control. I would think this should be the biggest issue for the men's rights movement. Why for women is it "my body, my choice" and for men it's "I hope she took her birth control and isn't lying and I hope the condom doesn't break." Don't YOU DESERVE to decide whether you have a baby without relying on someone else's word or flimsy latex that feels like shit and ruins sex (for both parties)?

[–]IAmLurker2020 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What do men tell women all the time: don't want to get pregnant, don't have sex. You don't want to wear a condom, get a vasectomy. Easy peasy. Snip snip. Men view women as nothing but vessels to get off. Cry more you misogynistic pricks.

[–]McFeely_Smackup 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

we used to stigmatize single motherhood because we thought it was probably a bad thing for society if children were raised without fathers.

Then we decided women can do it all and don't need no man, and we started acting like single mothers were heroes to be worshipped. and we found out that it was a bad thing for society for children to be raised without fathers.

It may not be fair, but it IS the real world. Single mothers are raising the next generation of prison inmates and junkies. if we're not willing to even talk about that, then all of this nonsense is pointless.

[–]Careful-Ruin-441 point 1 year ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I just watched an interesting video on this topic on YouTube. I don't know if links are allowed here - I'll try in a separate comment - but the video was posted this morning on the MenNeedToBeHeard channel.

[–]Careful-Ruin-441 point 1 year ago [recovered] | Copy Link

The link is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDKASz9WPRY&t=1296s

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