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Man who wrongly served 21 YEARS in prison for the rape and murder of girls aged eight and ten

JohnKimble111

October 21, 2022
222 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11341203/Man-wrongly-served-21-YEARS-prison-rape-murder-girls-aged-eight-ten.html
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Title Man who wrongly served 21 YEARS in prison for the rape and murder of girls aged eight and ten
Author

JohnKimble111

Upvotes 222
Comments 17
Date October 21, 2022 6:48 PM UTC
(3 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/ya1drb/man_who_wrongly_served_21_years_in_prison_for_the/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/man-who-wrongly-served-21-years-in-prison-for-the.1136167
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[โ€“]PoolPartyAtMyHouse 58 points59 points60 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Worth noting here, the Innocence Project in the US has gotten 375 people out of prison after 10+ years, only 8 total have been women. They were also the all in the first wave.

https://innocenceproject.org/exonerate/#:~:text=Exonerate%20the%20Innocent&text=To%20date%2C%20375%20people%20in,prison%20before%20exoneration%20and%20release.

Innocent men go to jail at an alarming rate compared to women, like everything else in the legal system, men without a doubt not only get the short end of the stick, but they get the 97% of the entire stick.... you know where the stick is going.

Men are the ones oppressed by the government and legal systems, not women.

[โ€“]ilikeblackbooties 15 points16 points17 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Those are only the ones where they found evidence that usually the prosecution withheld. How many are still innocent with no proof?

[โ€“]PoolPartyAtMyHouse 16 points17 points18 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://innocenceproject.org/1-in-100-americans-in-prison-how-many-are-innocent/

About 1 ion every 40 on death row.

https://www.georgiainnocenceproject.org/2022/02/01/beneath-the-statistics-the-structural-and-systemic-causes-of-our-wrongful-conviction-problem/#:~:text=Studies%20estimate%20that%20between%204,result%20in%20a%20wrongful%20conviction.

The overall estimates are 4-6% of people incarcerated are innocent/falsely in prison. There are 2.1M people incarcerated (US), 93% which are men. So there is about 1.95M men incarcerated.... So that is an estimation of (at 4-6%) 78,000 - 117,000 innocent men being held.

[โ€“]ImaginaryDimension74 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Really great information. Thanks.

[โ€“]ajdagreat_1 30 points31 points32 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Bro some of the comments on that site is still blaming the guy ๐Ÿคฆ๐Ÿพโ€โ™‚๏ธ

[โ€“]Mother-Key582 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

God I wish I could just shut them the hell up but Iโ€™d rather not waste my time because they just wonโ€™t fucking listen.

[โ€“]CdnPoster 22 points23 points24 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And all he gets in compensation is like $3 million? For 21 YEARS?!

How many birthdays, anniversaries, school reunions, life experiences, potential girlfriends/boyfriends/spouses, the list goes on, how much of that did he lose because the state FUCKED UP?!

He should be getting a minimum of $21 million - $1 million per year!

[โ€“]RunawayGrain 34 points35 points36 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

'I therefore want, on behalf of the prosecution, to offer my sincerest
apologies for the injustice that has been inflicted,' he added.

Yep it's bad that he lost 21 years of his life, but you'd never see a prosecutor make this admission here in the states...

[โ€“]pappo4ever 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's like The Green Mile but real life.

[โ€“]BestGamerGigaChad 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh god that's terrifying, imagine all the stuff he has felt for 21 years waking up everyday knowing he didn't do any of this... I wouldn't wish that on anyone...

[โ€“]equalRights111 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yet another reason why we should definitely not relax the criteria for convicting someone of rape.

[โ€“]Icy-Start5536 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

It's about time to tell the truth about the concept of jailing people. We jail men more than we do women because of intragender competition. Even if we exclude all biases, which are true, there is no guarantee that a judge isn't sending innocent men to jail so that there would be more women available. Perhaps he's not even aware he's doing so but men evolved to rat each other out for personal gain, and of that happens to be unjust then who cares it's not me the one who's going to serve time.

The best course of action is to form coalitions like women do to foster the male imperative. And harshly punish non adherents according to in-group/out-group dynamics.

Yeah it would be the male version of feminism but you fight fire with fire.

[+]Obarak123 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

I know it's useless saying this but the reason more men (and men of a specific race) are in jail has to do with classism and patriarchal stigma. It's easier to control lower classes and society is less lenient on poor men. No one is tossing men in jail so that there are more women available.๐Ÿ˜’๐Ÿ˜’.

[โ€“]Icy-Start5536 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

And where does classism stem from if not from the beta-bucks side of hypergamy?

[+]Obarak123 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I repeat, "useless". ๐Ÿ˜ฎโ€๐Ÿ’จ๐Ÿ˜ฎโ€๐Ÿ’จ

[โ€“]Icy-Start5536 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Do you have a reason why women belonging to the same class get significantly less time if any and get convicted at a significantly lower rate? Classism would erase the sentencing gap, all all things equal what stays? Pussy? Here's your answer.

[โ€“]Bergensis 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What isn't mentioned in the Daily Mail article is that the police either lied about, or didn't understand, the DNA evidence, and claimed that it linked Kristiansen to the crime as this article from 2000 says (In this article the 21-year old is Kristiansen and the 19-year old is Andersen):

https://www-nrk-no.translate.goog/sorlandet/dna-spor-knytter-_21-aringen-til-drapene-1.318854?_x_tr_sl=no&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=no&_x_tr_pto=wapp

This is in stark contrast to what DNA experts have said:

https://www-nrk-no.translate.goog/sorlandet/ny-rapport-sar-tvil-om-dna-bevisa-fra-baneheia-1.15038411?_x_tr_sl=no&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=no&_x_tr_pto=wapp

https://www-tv2-no.translate.goog/nyheter/innenriks/eksperter-slakter-dna-beviset-mot-viggo-kristiansen/11043907/?_x_tr_sl=no&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=no&_x_tr_pto=wapp

The police have also withheld evidence that could have exonerated Kristiansen, such as the profile that an FBI expert made:

https://www-nrk-no.translate.goog/norge/saksoker-gjenopptakelseskommisjonen-1.7741795?_x_tr_sl=no&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=no&_x_tr_pto=wapp

The court ignored that Kristiansens cell phone was connected to a base station that didn't cover the site of the crime at the time of the crime despite several attempt by the police to get a cell phone connected to that base station and. Instead of trusting the objective evidence from the cell phone, they believed the testimony of Andersen, who got a reduced sentence:

https://www-nrk-no.translate.goog/norge/mobiltelefon-kan-gi-alibi-1.522122?_x_tr_sl=no&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=no&_x_tr_pto=wapp

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