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100 million reasons not to, "Believe women."

IronJohnMRA

February 23, 2023
53 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/cowboys/2023/02/10/michael-irvin-files-100m-lawsuit-against-hotel-chain-woman-who-accused-him-of-misconduct/
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Title 100 million reasons not to, "Believe women."
Author

IronJohnMRA

Upvotes 53
Comments 19
Date February 23, 2023 1:25 PM UTC
(3 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/119xn97/100_million_reasons_not_to_believe_women/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/100-million-reasons-not-to-believe-women.1153634
https://theredarchive.com/post/1153634
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Comments

[–]LouisdeRouvroy 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"It also states a hotel manager contacted the NFL and informed the league Irvin had been accused of improper behavior".

He spoke to a woman! How dare he do that!

[+]Cranium_Internum -39 points-38 points-37 points 3 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

"This isn't an anti-women sub"

[–]IronJohnMRA[S] 24 points25 points26 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It's not. You're conflating the criticism of an ideology, with prejudice against a gender. And BTW, everybody lies, including all men. And you shouldn't automatically believe any of them either. So give up the concern trolling, and show yourself the door. We see your kind everyday, and we are not going to stop.

[+]Cranium_Internum -30 points-29 points-28 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Believing women is not an ideology.

[–]IronJohnMRA[S] 21 points22 points23 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't say believing women was an ideology. That is an individual choice. I was referring to a slogan, called, "Believe women" which refers to an ideology. Here is the definition of ideology:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideology

"An ideology is a set of beliefs or philosophies attributed to a person or group of persons, especially those held for reasons that are not purely epistemic, in which "practical elements are as prominent as theoretical ones."

And here are those specific belief(s) about a person or group of persons:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Believe_women

"It refers to accepting women's allegations of sexual harassment or sexual assault at face value. Jude Doyle, writing for Elle, argues that the phrase means "don't assume women as a gender are especially deceptive or vindictive, and recognize that false allegations are less common than real ones."

In your above post you've changed the words around in order to move the goalposts.

You tried to conflate a personal practice with an ideology.

You are arguing in bad faith.

[–]Any_Ambassador_7243 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But believing them without evidence is idiocy

[–]Reasonable_Listen514 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Stating truth is not "anti-women"

Recognizing that women have the capacity to lie, just like anyone else, is not "anti-women"

But stating that every woman should automatically be believed when they make an accusation against a man is sure as hell anti-male.

[–]Dismal-Cabinet5321 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

/u/cranium_internum with another garbage take. Must be another friday morning.

[–]CookyMcCookface 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not just Fridays. Days that end in ‘y’

[–]astrodonnie 16 points17 points18 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

If I'm anti women for not believing everything they say so be it. Wtf? News flash some people lie, even women.

[+]Cranium_Internum -22 points-21 points-20 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What does the title say?

[–]IronJohnMRA[S] 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It says that supporting a movement which hurts men will now be more expensive.

[–]astrodonnie 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What does my comment say?

[–]Maxwell1138 15 points16 points17 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The fact that you think this is 'anti-woman' shows how diluted you are. The concept of 'believe all women' is handing women a loaded gun that they can shoot without consequences that can KILL men.

We are talking about people's lives here. Show some damn respect.

[+]Cranium_Internum -7 points-6 points-5 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

There's no statement anywhere in the context of this thread to "believe all women"

There's a statement of "not to believe women."

[–]IronJohnMRA[S] 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Did you read the article? This isn't about women. It's about businesses throwing men under the bus in order to virtue signal, or at least not get cancelled themselves. The point being is that this is a sudden, and large shift taking place in a culture war. The incentives are now different.

[–]Fearless-File-3625 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"not to believe women." is itself in context of "not to believe women.".

[–]Any_Ambassador_7243 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Atleast we don't ban women on the spot cough cough (r/feminism)

[–]antifeminist3 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you are conflating criticism of the toxic female behaviour of false accusations by women as anti-women, then feminists criticizing men is anti-men.

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