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Starting in the late teens, the parental age of both sexes positively correlates with de novo mutations in offspring, with paternal age providing a stronger correlation.

RSDevotion1

February 22, 2023
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/r/BlackPillScience
https://doi.org/10.7554/eLife.46922
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Title Starting in the late teens, the parental age of both sexes positively correlates with de novo mutations in offspring, with paternal age providing a stronger correlation.
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RSDevotion1

Upvotes 46
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Date February 22, 2023 2:50 AM UTC
(3 years ago)
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[–]RSDevotion1[S] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

The number of de novo mutations (DNMs) found in an offspring's genome increases with both paternal and maternal age. But does the rate of mutation accumulation in human gametes differ across families? Using sequencing data from 33 large, three-generation CEPH families, we observed significant variability in parental age effects on DNM counts across families, ranging from 0.19 to 3.24 DNMs per year. Additionally, we found that ~3% of DNMs originated following primordial germ cell specification in a parent, and differed from non-mosaic germline DNMs in their mutational spectra. We also discovered that nearly 10% of candidate DNMs in the second generation were post-zygotic, and present in both somatic and germ cells; these gonosomal mutations occurred at equivalent frequencies on both parental haplotypes. Our results demonstrate that rates of germline mutation accumulation vary among families with similar ancestry, and confirm that post-zygotic mosaicism is a substantial source of human DNM.

The range for maternal age ends in the late 30s, thus, it's possible that maternal age has an exponentially increasing risk of DNM proceeding the late 30s.

Graph

[–]SteinerElMagnifico421 points 3 years ago [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link

What does this mean in layman terms ?

[–]RSDevotion1[S] 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

De novo mutations are mutations that are observable in the offspring but not the parents. The implication is that older parents correlate with new mutations in the resulting offspring.

[–]TheConstructorFL 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Are these DeNovo mutations mostly maladaptive?

[–]RSDevotion1[S] 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not necessarily, but commonly studied DNM are Down syndrome and autism.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0168952519301787

https://genomebiology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13059-016-1110-1

[–]labratdream 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not all some of them are beneficial and if these mutations occur in other individuals at the same time and area most likely they will extend the genotype . But most likely they are neutral or harmful.

[–]ICQME 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

what age is considered to be an older parent? 30+?

[–]StrawberrySuncatcher 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wait a minute. Wouldn't this suggest that men hit the wall faster than women? The average number of DNMs for males is already twice that of females at 20 years old ....

[–]RSDevotion1[S] 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Spermatocytogenesis is a comparatively rapid process, potentially allowing for a greater chance of mutations. It seems like the father has a greater contribution for these particular mutation types, regardless of age, so you have to compare the slopes rather than the starting points.

[–]Risate -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

wait so.... as a teenager, older parents give you more miutations? Ur not born as a teen tho... am i missing something?

[–]Wirlix00 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The older the parents the more mutated their possible offspring.

[–]Risate 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

oh i see, thanks!

[–]CornellWest1 points 3 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

How do they attribute DNMs specifically to mother vs father? If it's a mutation then doesn't that mean it doesn't match either parent? I don't get it. I'm not challenging the paper just hoping someone can ELI5 me

[–]RSDevotion1[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

We determined the parental gamete-of-origin for a median of 98.5% of de novo variants per second-generation individual (range: 90.3–100%) by leveraging haplotype sharing across all three generations in a family (Kong et al., 2012; Jónsson et al., 2017), as well as read tracing of DNMs to informative sites in the parents (Figure 1b, Figure 1—figure supplement 2). The ratio of paternal to maternal DNMs was 3.96:1, and 79.8% of DNMs were paternal in origin. We then measured the relationship between the number of phased DNMs observed in each child and the ages of the child’s parents at birth (Figure 2a). After fitting Poisson regressions, we observed a significant paternal age effect of 1.44 (95% CI: 1.12–1.77, p<2e-16) additional DNMs per year, and a significant maternal age effect of 0.38 (95% CI: 0.21–0.55, p=1.24e-5) DNMs per year (Figure 2a). These confirm prior estimates of the paternal and maternal age effects on de novo mutation accumulation, and further suggest that both older mothers and fathers contribute to increased DNM counts in children (Figure 2—figure supplement 1) (Jónsson et al., 2017; Goldmann et al., 2016; Rahbari et al., 2016; Wong et al., 2016; Besenbacher et al., 2015).

[–]CornellWest1 points 3 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

This is my best effort at explaining it based on that:

First, a haplotype is a group of genes in an organism that was inherited together from a single parent.

A mutation will only change a small part of the haplotype. The remaining parts will be more similar to one parent or the other and this similarity can be used to assign a parent of origin.

Assuming that's all correct, the one thing I wasn't able to figure out is why three generations are needed instead of just two. This bit:

leveraging haplotype sharing across all three generations in a family

So likely I'm still missing a piece of the idea. My best guess is the parent haplotypes can also be very similar to each other so adding a third generation gives a better chance of discerning a difference.

[–]RSDevotion1[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A mutation will only change a small part of the haplotype. The remaining parts will be more similar to one parent or the other and this similarity can be used to assign a parent of origin.

Yes.

My best guess is the parent haplotypes can also be very similar to each other so adding a third generation gives a better chance of discerning a difference.

Yes.

[–]justLernin 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So... ideally have kids as young as possible?

Maybe encourage your kids to have kids really young, and help them raise them?

[–]Professional-Cash490 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think humanity may owe quite a bit to some of these mutations. One really good mutation could be worth a lot of autists.

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