That point at which everything that needed to be said has been said. Do you go back and refine, or reach for more?

ArgueLater · 2023-03-03T03:59:27+00:00

Personally, my top 5 might be:

suicide
child loss
homelessness
drafts
genital mutilation

Suicide in particular seems important because it so blatantly correlates with quality of life.

JasenBorne · 2023-03-03T09:32:41+00:00

child custody

prison reform and rehabilitation

sexual and physical abuse

isolatation/loneliness

second one is rarely talked about outside the system, which is disgusting since everyone on the inside knows it doesn't work. it just creates career criminals then leaves them on the street, can't get a job or proper housing, have no friends or connections so go on to reoffend. who cares about these men is what i want to know.

crz8956 · 2023-03-03T13:19:00+00:00

1. Lack of psychological support/skills to manage emotions (manup-shutthefuckup)

Suicides, loneliness, substance abuse go there.

2. Lack of proper healthcare.

I mean guys often are more laid back about their own health. Therefore, they need special treatment in HC system, not women who are naturally (on average) more aware or their condition and tend to call a doctor earlier. Like more detailed analysis, more attention from diagnosts. More funds for male-specific issues.That stuff.

3. Lack (in many countries) of just divorce/childcare laws. No comments. To sad to talk about it.

4. Mandatory conscription and draft in many countries.

This should be a) unisex b) professional. For many reasons, beginning from technical advancement of military tech/equipment to overall equal right principle.

5. I dunno how to formulate it... too high social pressure and policing.

Guys should be this, Guys should be that, for fuck's sake leave the guys alone!

Most of us are quite capable to do things we are supposed to do by biology. Like protection, taking care of family, making first move, courtship and such. After all, if you are with a girl you love (and it is mutual), you feel the inner desire to do certain things, like keep house working, make her happy, care for her and so on.(if she reciprocates of course).

But all other...it is nobody's buisness,what a guy wears, what hobbies he has, and what interests he presuies. We are not living in medevial times anymore,when church preached to people" tHe OnLy RiGhT wAy To Be(tm)".

6. Education system geared towards girls

Maybe it is time to stop solving problems, that have been solved like 75 years ago and start catetering to modern children's needs with modern knowledge? Like some time for physical activity, and not so fucking tedious lessons? Adult attention span is not developing over 40 minutes, you know.

7. Taking men's achievements for granted

Like how long ago were you complimented by someone, guys? That's it. People often think that "meh,guys compete anyway, why should we bother noticing their results".

By the way, though, I am not always agreeing with all people in this sub,I wanna tell you, that you all are awesome people. You created this community, you are bald enough to talk about things that modern society prefers not to swipe out under the rug, and you exchange knowledge, data, insights, and just normal human support, with each other.

Guys you all are clever, strong, great and beautiful, each in his own way, even if sometimes you doubt it. Dudes rock.

CCMF_volunteer · 2023-03-03T17:22:34+00:00

My personal list of priorities would be: - change family law to add presumption of equal shared parenting following divorce - add offices for men’s health to mirror those already existing for women - reduce male suicide and overdose rates - defend presumption of innocence and due process in all aspects of criminal law, especially sexual assault - add more shelters for male victims of domestic violence

Redstatesrock · 2023-03-07T16:28:47+00:00

Stop all affirmative action for women. Let the “free market of cultural progression” prevail. Subsidies and penalties that promote women in this or that field of study or endeavor are flawed from the start, life is an organic thing and we can’t fight human nature. If women tend to be on fewer business boards, or like physics less than men do, so be it. Life is like that. (I hated physics).

Fighting human nature is causing all kinds of mayhem, like pretending that men’s bathrooms need menstrual products. Women on r/feminist actually argue that women are not the only people who menstruate. How insane can this get?

Title	That point at which everything that needed to be said has been said. Do you go back and refine, or reach for more?
Author	ArgueLater
Upvotes	5
Comments	7
Date	March 3, 2023 3:57 AM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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