Do women overvalue themselves and do men undervalue themselves?

no_bling_just_ding · 2023-03-02T17:29:24+00:00

women are aware of their flaws and can name them but think all their traits sum up to 10/10 regardless because they tend to individually believe they are all more special than the rest

men who don't believe the personality horseshit don't know exactly where their flaws lie but they can accurately calculate their total score

ElectricBugs · 2023-03-02T16:31:01+00:00

fatsackguy47 · 2023-03-02T18:14:34+00:00

I mean do they overvalue themselves? Technically it’s complicated. I mean even the ugliest most obese girls get attention, are they technically undervalued?

I mean objectively they are unattractive, and are far from average, but yet their smv is still ten times that of an average guy.

So do they overvalue themselves? No. Do they overrate their objective physical attractiveness? Yes.

Lainsel · 2023-03-02T17:38:08+00:00

Yeah, just go on .org and compare the normal looking guys complaining about being ugly to the curvy kweenz on TikTok

Last-Post2085 · 2023-03-02T17:40:31+00:00

and do men undervalue themselves?

I would say so. Men are more aware of what level of attraction they are on and are too scared to approach women who are way higher than them. You wouldn't see some 5'4" guy approaching some 6'0" model woman.

I dont think women are as aware, as they are used to men hitting on them even if they are obese.

kanzakistudent · 2023-03-02T23:08:59+00:00

Men overvalue women. Imagine if you were 500 pounds, but you still had 500 matches waiting for you in your phone.

Fact is, most women are average, and even below average after makeup. You ever go over to r/trurateme? The female posts always get the most attention. Women support each other, on top of all the thirsty, simp men. Men? haha we have no one, not even other men. Men need to band together in the same way, and also stop putting pzzy on a pedestal. You have to be willing to go through a 10 year drought. Go play elden ring; there are better things thatn women.

kiIlmenow · 2023-03-02T18:30:58+00:00

Eh those youtube videos are actual incel bait, i personally think its pretty similair, also alot of those women just joke with the 10/10. I will say women do feel more confident in their looks cuz they get hit on so much. However if i personally look at over or undervauleinng outside of looks, i notice men overvalue themselves way too mucu

Mydragonurdungeon · 2023-03-02T17:00:56+00:00

Yes to both.

gruckendud · 2023-03-02T19:40:44+00:00

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Pretty_Network5856 · 2023-03-04T01:59:07+00:00

Men who unironically rate themselves a "10" are usually mental. I don't think I've ever heard of a woman ratting herself any less than an "8."

RinoaRita · 2023-03-03T14:04:17+00:00

I think in terms of short term supply and demand (ie casual quick hook ups) men definitely want women more. So in the pool of women who are willing to have a short term thing they are “over values” compared to the long term monogamous pairing that many people purport to be the goal.

Now when you’re in swipe culture online you only see that snippet. But meeting in real life evens the playing grounds.

Opening_Pattern_301 · 2023-03-03T15:09:10+00:00

women, at least the stereotypical basic bitches dont really overvalue themselves out of delusion but because many idiots overvalue them, but the idiots arent fully to blame, you see, those women are just showing who they truly are.

Men on the other hand, they do undervalue themselves a lot too, but is not their fault, modern messages empower women to be independent and they dont need men so that makes them independent boss bitches who know their worth jadda jadda, i wouldnt have an issue with that message, if it werent because men get told the total opposite, they get called low value in both explicit and implicit ways, they get told they need women (huge lie), they get called unworthy if women dont approve to them, they get pressured and shame into bending the knee for women and to give em the benefit of the doubt no matter what, women can belittle, insult and straight up abuse men psychologically and nothing happens, manipulation towards men is normalized, and much more, but lets not see ourselves as victims gentlemen, it is good for us to be understimated, this world is full of precious beautiful women who dont do find any pleasure in abusing men, seeing yourself as a victim just gets you further away from them, your choice, because this cant really affect you once you realize you have everything that you need for your life, and if men truly need women which again is false, modern western women (at least the majority of them) arent definetly the kind of woman they need, they arent worthy of that power.

crypto_druid · 2023-03-07T03:04:30+00:00

Because people tend to bullshit women and be honest with men.

which is good news if you’re a man. Who wants to live with smoke up your ass constantly?. I personally like to know that I’m not perfect and have things to work on

honestjoin · 2023-03-07T19:40:35+00:00

no for most men, a lot of men aren't even aware of women caring about looks or a pretty face at all, but users pool of males here are dudes on incel forums who are neurotic.

Title	Do women overvalue themselves and do men undervalue themselves?
Author	NationalistGoy
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Date	March 2, 2023 3:59 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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