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Men: The New Second-Class Citizens

EvilPundit

September 25, 2013

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Title	Men: The New Second-Class Citizens
Author	EvilPundit
Upvotes	51
Comments	9
Date	September 25, 2013 6:29 AM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1n35yz/men_the_new_secondclass_citizens/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/men-the-new-second-class-citizens.1162969 https://theredarchive.com/post/1162969

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[–]MaestroLogical 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]CosmicKeys 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]niyou77 -4 points-3 points-2 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

[–]typhonblue 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]niyou77 -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

It doesn't work that way my friend. Only men are given selective service because men are perceived by society as stronger, both physically and emotionally.

Besides, a term as powerful and meaningful as "second-class citizen" requires numerous examples to justify its use. For example, in the early 20th century blacks were frequently killed with no repercussions, were segregated and were forced to use considerably shittier social systems (bathrooms, schools, etc.) Japanese Americans during WWII were actually sent to internment camps despite the fact that they were citizens. Both groups were targets of massive amounts of racism, both cultural and institutionalized. That makes for a second class citizen. Being forced to sign up for selective service which is a program that literally hasn't been used in decades does not a lesser citizen make.

[–]typhonblue 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Only men are given selective service because men are perceived by society as stronger, both physically and emotionally.

That's your assumption. The reality is that selective service is justified due to male expendability.

Other times and places have had no trouble using "weaker" people as cannon fodder. And I see no reason why women can't, oh, sweep mine fields if they can't do combat.

Yet that never occurred to politicians who were excluding women because they're "weak"?

in the early 20th century blacks were frequently killed with no repercussions

So were other marginalized groups of men. The only commonality was that they were men.

Men also get considerably "shittier" social services in terms of health care, education and survivor services(DV and rape.)

Japanese Americans during WWII were actually sent to internment camps despite the fact that they were citizens.

And men are sent to debtor's prison based on women's unilateral decisions regarding reproduction.

[–]niyou77 -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Stephen_Morgan 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]whoizz 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link