Kudos to Pamela Anderson for Common Sense and Moral Courage

Ordinate1 · 2017-12-04T19:16:23+00:00

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So this is not victim blaming but looking at the issue from the angle of women being aware of certain problems and how to spot them and fight them. It is totally hypocritical to ignore this. And it is not helping anyone to ignore the realities in the society we live in. The causes of the problem and solutions are complex and women who do not live in the utopian bubble must be aware of what is going on. And that is what I have highlighted.

I do NOT wish apologise for what I said.

And will not get coerced into apology.

This exactly what I am saying is a problem with the contemporary “victimhoood feminism”! The people who subscribe to that notion tolerate and actually expect women to talk about the stories of abuse and experiences with creeps.

But they would NOT tolerate a woman with her own opinion. So pathetic.

Mens-Advocate · 2017-12-05T01:20:12+00:00

Hurrah for Pam Anderson! Any female over 16 knows how to handle a crude proposition - say no and walk out. Or decline to meet in a hotel room in the first place.

EarthBelongsToAnts · 2017-12-05T06:37:08+00:00

Surprised to see all the “female none-agency” crowd at full force even at the men’s rights subreddit.

Weinstein is a scum fuck, but Pamela makes a good point, these women know what they’re getting into, most of the time.

The fact that they only speak out about it years after the fact goes to show that they either didn’t think what they went through was bad enough to go to the cops, or that they knew it was bad, but chose not to say anything because they got million dollar gigs out of it, making them complicit in a way.

Call it victim blaming if you want but that’s the truth with all these high profile cases where no actual forced sex was involved, the “victims” benefitted from keeping their mouths shut, and now are benefitting from people giving them the same leniency we’d give child victims of sexual abuse who actually DONT have the mental capacity to make proper decisions and thus are rightly awarded the title of “none-agents” when it comes to abuse because they’re so easily manipulated.

Now we have to label Louis CK a sexual predator when he got consent from women to jerk off infront of them, but years later these women come out to make him into a predator, even though they were fully aware of the situation and could have told him to stop or step out at any moment. I think Pamela and many people are just tired of women not taking any responsibility for their actions.

Tl;dr stop treating women like overgrown children with no agency.

Ordinate1 · 2017-12-05T01:10:02+00:00

People who defend Weinstein here do a disservice to this sub and the movement as a whole. Some of the men taken down in the #metoo witch hunt deserve at least some defense, others our full support, but Weinstein is a complete and total shithead who deserves everything he's getting. Defending him here just lends credence to the idea that MRAs are all victim-blaming rape apologists.

I'm downvoting this post and every comment here that supports it. We need to be better than this.

EDIT: And, while we have certainly had our disagreements, props to u/ThePigmanAgain for standing up to this garbage.

DavidByron2 · 2017-12-04T20:18:11+00:00

Alternative headline -- "Pamela Anderson Admits, 'I was stupid yesterday and i'm still stupid today!'"

What she said was factually wrong, that's all there is to it. Like i said, not everybody is streetwise enough to see this shit coming, and hotel room meetings are not uncommon in Hollywood.

DavidByron2 · 2017-12-04T20:26:14+00:00

LOL! I just went to her blog and read the entire thing. Here are some of the more interesting points...

protectin

as a journalists

for right to vote

Quite an opposite

the realities in the society we live in

I do NOT wish apologise for what I said

not get coerced into apology

This exactly what I am saying

victimhoood

It's official, folks -- Pam Anderson is the greatest genius of our time!

Title	Kudos to Pamela Anderson for Common Sense and Moral Courage
Author	Ordinate1
Upvotes	24
Comments	34
Date	December 4, 2017 7:14 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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