Family courts are the way they are because of men's bad behavior

2018-06-24T02:40:55+00:00

The reason family courts are this way is because of The Tender Years Doctrine.

Laughable you'd find some way to blame men for something feminism started.

2018-06-24T01:33:42+00:00

Not even close. They're the way they are because of political pressure from feminists.

We're so used to being skeptical of other men that we don't realize women are also independent actors with self interest and goals apart from those of a man.

I know you'd like to partition the world into assholes and damsels but unfortunately the damsels are fully capable of being assholes.

Think of it this way, men had to survive by dint of effort. With half the upper body strength and 2/3rds the lower body strength which sex had to rely more on cunning?

mikesteane · 2018-06-24T03:23:00+00:00

I grew up with a lot of friends whose dad fulfilled the proverbial "went for bread, never came back."

So you heard one side of the story then.

Why would they go simply disappear if they had any reason to stay? Perhaps there was more to the stories than you heard.

No one seems to be able to see past their personal experiences.

Odd, considering the statement you preceded it with.

As an exercise in thinking, try applying everything you have written about feminism to Marxism. It came about for a reason surely, but that didn't stop it being the most damaging philosophy in the 20th century.

TheMythof_Feminism · 2018-06-24T01:35:29+00:00

then split and leave the woman with the kids and no money.

And what's wrong with that exactly? I understand most of the world enjoys subjugating men, but luckily in the nation I live in, this is not the case. A man should never be subjugated by the government for the purposes of extracting profit to be used by a woman. If the woman does not want to pay for the children, she can, OH I DON'T KNOW, give custody to the man? just saying.....

Anyway, what a man is forced to pay in the case you describe at least in my nation, is only a modest percentage of his disposable income. For some reason in places like the U.S., he is straight up enslaved which is abhorrent.

past their personal experiences.

Subjectivity is garbage.

Objectivity is absolute and sovereign.

There is no objective merit to anything you've said. There is no justification for the subjugation and enslavement of men, this is not debatable... what is being done to men in first world nations is an atrocity. Weaponizing children against their fathers is repugnant to the extreme and should never have been allowed.

Lethn · 2018-06-24T10:32:56+00:00

I grew up with a lot of friends whose dad fulfilled the proverbial "went for bread, never came back." At one time women could not divorce a man, or had to go to divorce ranches in Reno to get divorced as well.

No one seems to be able to see past their personal experiences. I am not saying modern feminism is in any right, but it came about for a reason.

Sorry, but what you're doing is you're using the actions of others to justify the treatment of everybody else and that is about the only consistent belief that feminists have in their ideology. Like feminists, you come across as somebody who is incredibly bitter about the behaviour of men in your life and your post makes it out that you think it's completely justified to treat all other men like shit in court.

It isn't hyperbolic to say that this is the exact kind of shit that genuine hate groups use to justify their treatment of other people. If it isn't history they use they'll claim that personal experience justifies persecuting entire groups of people, in this case men.

Yeah, I will always come into conflict with people like you, you're claiming you don't agree with modern feminism but that's not what the problem is here, you think discrimination against men is completely justified and have aligned yourself with that ideology.

RapeMatters · 2018-06-24T02:25:14+00:00

Do you believe in historical retribution?

stupidname91919 · 2018-06-24T13:49:14+00:00

Did you grow up in the 1950's dude? That era is long dead.

Title	Family courts are the way they are because of men's bad behavior
Author	SkepticalMRA
Upvotes	0
Comments	8
Date	June 23, 2018 4:02 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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