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A case of naked hypocrisy? When claims emerged that hostesses at the all-male Presidents Club charity dinner were groped, there was a furore. But what about those male stripper nights where women throw inhibitions to the wind..

furchfur

March 30, 2018
77 upvotes
/r/MensRights
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Title A case of naked hypocrisy? When claims emerged that hostesses at the all-male Presidents Club charity dinner were groped, there was a furore. But what about those male stripper nights where women throw inhibitions to the wind..
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furchfur

Upvotes 77
Comments 10
Date March 30, 2018 10:18 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/88e8kc/a_case_of_naked_hypocrisy_when_claims_emerged/
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https://theredarchive.com/post/1178644
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Comments

[–]HeForeverBleeds 17 points18 points19 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes, it's blatant hypocrisy, that's too often defended because people presume that men are always willing and because people simply perceive female inappropriate behavior as less predatory than male behavior

Of course some women feel entitled to touch men, sexually harass men, "objectify" men the same way some men do to women. They're just given passes when they do so. But it's good that it seems this behavior is being called out more lately

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think far more women feel entitled to men's bodies than men do to women's bodies. Since they're given a pass on doing so, and often praised. "You go girl!" It's how they feel "liberated" it seems, to sexually assault men.

Straight men would often rather strip for gay men since gay men have boundaries set. And clubs will actually protect them from gay men's abuse if it happens. But straight clubs would rather protect their client base than their dancers.

Women also sexually harass and assault/grope gay men in gay bars. Women also do this to men who wear kilts. There was one bar that had the male employees in kilts, that changed their dresscode because so many women would flip the kilts up to see what was under there.

Women don't control themselves, and nobody calls them on it. Everything they say men do to women, is actually more accurately describing how more women treat men.

[–]Greg_W_Allan 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

In my town there are no female strip shows because of political opposition from feminist groups in the late nineties. There are also no male strip shows because the few venues who tried it discovered that female audiences would sexually assault staff and performers and trash the venue. It was a potential legal nightmare.

[–]furchfur[S] 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Now in central London there are more venues with male strippers catering to female audiences then there are with female strippers catering to male audiences. The council has shut all the strip clubs down apart from for female audiences with big venues like Adonis, Dreamboys etc.

[–]mwobuddy 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I can bet your ass 1 million dollars that women who are at these clubs and do these 'sexual assaults' do NOT perceive themselves as sexually assaulting someone, because they're expanding typical 'sexual playful behavior' to people that are paid to be there and take off their clothes, maybe even give you a lapdance (hint: touching body to body for sexual reasons) for more money.

There's this great book by jordan peterson, and he details the way in which putting a delinquent into a group of achievers doesn't make the delinquent better at their job/school. It makes the other people become more complacent and start slacking off. Because people do judge by what others around them are doing. His basic argument boiled down to "making things better is hard, making things worse is easy, because a bad spot can spread."

This is the same way of sexual harassment/assault law, etc. Feminists wanted to make the world worse for everyone by making everything sexual harassment/assault. Now women who grope strippers are being called out for sexual assault. They didn't do people favors. They made things worse and its spreading, so it'll come back around to bite women in the ass as soon as men stop accepting it. Either its okay for everyone or its not okay for anyone. Either its playful touching or its sexual assault irrespective of gender.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah but women are so rarely actually punished for crimes that it hardly matters. Can you imagine a woman getting jail time for groping a man in a strip club?

[–]SJW_Skeptic 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The issue is that the performers/hostesses/hosts have an idea what is going to happen. Their employers need to provide a “safe” environment BUT these days we assume that even when women give consent they are not competent to do so. Whereas men are held responsible for their decisions. Similarly the audiences have different standards. Men who step over the line are punished, women excused. The usual double standard.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Funny how the women pick the guy for a private dance, molest him and then claim he assaulted them. That is female privilege right there.

[–]mrwhibbley 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just curious. We're the hostess strippers? Strippers should expect a certain level of inappropriate conduct among their clientele. Hosts and hostesses should not.

[–]McGauth925 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

This, to me, comes down to the fact that men are more attracted to women than vice versa. Most women have no use for most of us. But, it becomes a problem for them when fewer men are willing to give women what they DO want, such as when men don't want children, marriage, or older women.

In these times, more and more women have more and more complaints about men. And, some of us have had it with women who seemingly never stop complaining about us. So, we've stopped making the effort to be what women tell us they want. It's not the misogyny that attracts me to MGTOW: it's the support from other men who don't much want to deal with women any more.

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