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Women, of course, are against this. Too many politicians will support women over men, so it's "politically infeasible," unless this becomes a major issue that men support, and publicize the hell out of, and never give up.
/r/MensRights07/04/26 06:54 PM
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The Obvious: if women can do the job with less strength/power, so can men. Expecting men to be more powerful , to do the same job, is sexism. If less powerful men do the job more poorly, than less powerful women do, also. The standards should be the same, regardless of sex/gender.
/r/MensRights07/04/26 06:50 PM
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The whole premise of feminism is that women are victims, and men privileged perpetrators. Any counter-narrative is, therefore, unsupportive, unwelcome, and seen as bordering on misogny. I'm sure there are more details, but I believe this sums it up succinctly.
/r/MensRights07/04/26 06:45 PM
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trump's a corrupt, fascist POS, so I can't support him or his party. Democracy is more important than misandry, for me, because it affects all Americans. So, I come here for men's rights, but not the politics.
/r/MensRights07/04/26 06:36 PM
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Other than us, whom do you think that matters to? MGTOW: women have too many advantages in marriage and common-law marriage for men to risk it, and most women have NO use for most men, anyhow. It's in our interest to build lives that don't require women for satisfaction.
/r/MensRights07/04/26 06:34 PM
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Thanks for your opinion. I despise trump more than I've ever despised any person. I want him gone. Preserving democracy outweighs men's rights, for me, because I think fascism endangers all of us more than misandry does.
/r/MensRights07/04/26 06:27 PM
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Doesn't matter. We've been propagandized for years that men are more violent, men do a lot more harm, men always cause women to assault them, and it's inherently evil for a man to hit a woman, even if he's defending himself. If we publicized the HELL out of this, we'd see a shitload of counter-propaganda that relies on WHAT EVERYBODY HAS ALWAYS 'KNOWN.'
/r/MensRights21/03/26 08:54 PM
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Your're mistaken, and Carpenter is just one of the millions of pieces of evidence, to prove it. But, MGTOW. You go your way, we'll go ours.
/r/MensRights21/03/26 08:36 PM
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Two reasons for MGTOW: men get screwed in courts when marriages end, and so many women have NO use for most men.
/r/MensRights21/03/26 08:34 PM
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I'd be pleasantly surprised if he ever speaks up on it while campaigning. I do believe he'd lose more women's votes, if he did. I can't tell if that's more cynical than it is fair.
/r/MensRights12/03/26 11:53 PM
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This should be written in large stone letters - maybe the size of the Stonehenge stones, or the Hollywood sign. Something visible from low orbit. This wording is slightly different... NEVER BE SURPRISED BY WOMEN WHO WANT EQUALITY ONLY WHEN IT BENEFITS THEM. Expect that, and be surprised when they don't.
/r/MensRights12/03/26 11:00 PM
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My assumptions: Women will never support men not being forced to pay for children. Conservatives won't support it. Christians won't support it. Regular people, wherever they are, don't want to pay higher taxes - they'd rather the biological father pay. And, as we all know, our culture care a lot more for women in many, maybe most, ways.
/r/MensRights22/01/26 05:11 PM
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???????
/r/MensRights20/12/25 09:08 PM
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It's a weapon that mostly only women can wield.
/r/MensRights06/01/25 10:17 PM
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When you tell the same lie over and over, and your supporters tell the same lie over and over, it no longer matters that it's a lie, to people who want to believe it to begin with.
/r/MensRights06/01/25 09:09 PM
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Fact. I don't know about other guys, but women have always expected me to please them more than the other way around. Women seem to think they're doing enough by consenting to have sex, so no further effort is required.
/r/MensRights03/08/24 09:14 PM
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First, a small minority of women would actually support the idea that they couldn't force men to support the children that only they want. Despite constant claims to the contrary, women have more power than men as a collective. Second, ALL the pro-life people would oppose this. Third. The conservative Supreme Court can be counted on to oppose this. Fourth, all the people who don't want to pay higher taxes want the biological fathers of those children to pay instead. Fifth, the excuse usually giv…
/r/MensRights14/06/24 07:30 PM
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NEVER TELL A WOMAN YOU'RE CONSIDERING SEXUAL HARRASSMENT OR DV CHARGES .AGAINST HER. JUST GO AHEAD AND DO IT, OR DON'T DO IT. My brother dated a feminist teacher while in college. He had some postion working for her, and her feminist friends kept telling her to fire him, because he was male. She finally did. He told her he was considering filing a wrongful termination suit, in some way with the college. This was Cape Cod Community College in Massachusetts. So she got a restraining order against …
/r/MensRights06/06/24 09:22 PM
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That way, they can say ALL men are the enemy, as an effort to get ALL women to oppose the enemy. It's about gaining more power.
/r/MensRights25/05/24 05:28 PM
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This is complete bullshit. Maybe a few women would, but most? Not a chance.
/r/MensRights25/04/24 10:32 PM
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Women have to compete for the most desirable men, the same way men have to compete for the most desirable women.
/r/MensRights25/04/24 10:28 PM
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Your handle makes me think that maybe you're black. And, your story sounds like one I've heard about before. Single black mothers focus on providing their daughters with the education and background they'll need to prosper. They don't do that anywhere near as often for their sons. The rationale is that girls will have children, and they need to be able to provide for them. Which means young men will start out with a disadvantage in earning money and providing for their children. Does that ring t…
/r/MensRights13/04/24 05:23 PM
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Why does chronic neuropathic and other forms of chronic pain have to be a gender issue with perceived yet baseless sexism espoused in ads to raise awareness for it? Because, under the aegis of removing misogyny, we've become pretty misandrous as a society.
/r/MensRights12/04/24 08:03 PM
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That's how they market to women these days. Sometimes I have to think some people have a hard time seeing where anti-misogyny becomes misandry.
/r/MensRights12/04/24 08:02 PM
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Imagine thinking that your life can be so much better, and will be so much better, once the enemy stops victimizing you. Just keep knocking that enemy down, and the future is yours. That's a lot better than accepting that no one can make your life better than you can, only it takes responsibility and work. Or combine the 2 - Girl Power - and get the best of both.
/r/MensRights12/04/24 07:58 PM
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Women were, and are, expected to behave the way women traditionally have. So have men been. The difference is that nobody - and especially women - cares that men face endless expectations, also.
/r/MensRights02/02/24 07:47 PM
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Gotta disagree on that. Women expect men to protect them, and fail to see how that's a sexist expectation.
/r/MensRights02/02/24 07:28 PM
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=Are they trying to say all men are responsible if a man attacks a woman so =it is his responsibility to intervene? I've seen some women claim that. But, mostly, I think they're saying that men aren't victims of women the way women are victims of men. They should check out the latest DV stats.
/r/MensRights02/02/24 07:26 PM
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Thing is, men aren't good when they help and protect women; it's expected. I saw a post some time back where a man was physically harassing a woman. A bus stopped close by, and a bunch of men got out and assaulted the guy. I pointed out that, if the assaulter deserves to be condemned, the guys protecting her deserve to be praised. Downvoted to hell.
/r/MensRights02/02/24 07:22 PM
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That doesn't mean that it's fine when men are victims. Men deserve protection as much as women do. And, I do have to wonder how often the violence committed by women is ignored - especially when it's against men.
/r/MensRights02/02/24 07:16 PM
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Classic victim-blaming.
/r/MensRights02/02/24 07:04 PM
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Everything that women don't like in the world, they now blame on men. Scapegoating 101. They have to; if they had to accept responsibility for anything, their whole worldview would fall apart.
/r/MensRights08/01/24 07:38 PM
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So, I was in my home town, 100+ miles from my own home, to help my elderly parents out for a few days. I can't exactly say right now why I was feeling so stressed, but I definitely was. I was out doing some fetch-it chores and just started crying. Definitely unmanly. I had forgotten how much that releases stress and makes the world more livable. I felt a lot better after a few minutes of tears that I wouldn't have wanted anybody at all to see. If we have to maintain appearances, ok. But, what we…
/r/MensRights23/12/23 03:51 PM
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I would believe it needs to be investigated.
/r/MensRights15/12/23 10:59 PM
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I guess I should care, but I don't. I'm just happy the movie tanked.
/r/MensRights15/12/23 10:54 PM
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A lot of liberals who said "My body, my choice" went silent when governments told us we had to get the covid vaccine The government didn't say that. There never was a law anywhere saying you had to get a vaccine. The worst was that an organization could make it a condition of work, and the government didn't step in - well, maybe it did in red states - and make that illegal discrimination.
/r/MensRights15/12/23 10:22 PM
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RESPONDING TO TITLE ONLY: So, you can probably safely ignore this post. Why bother responding? Do you actually think you're going to change the minds of a person who would say that? They already know lwhat they believe, which is that they can read the minds of all MRAs, and there will be no studies to prove them wrong.
/r/MensRights15/12/23 10:16 PM
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The only thing I'd like to see is more information about is MtR transgenders in women's sports. I'd bet that statistics would show us that they do better than the average women, and I don't think that's fair. Other than that, I don't care what they do.
/r/MensRights15/12/23 09:31 PM
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The general opinion is that men aren't good, is why they're in denial. It's completely uncool to overtly do anything to please men. The women who want to attract men have to pretend that's not why they're doing it. You know, as conspiracy-theory-minded as that sounds, it's actually true. Women can't be seen to like anything about men in these times.
/r/MensRights21/11/23 08:26 PM
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From that, I have to assume you don't read novels much. If you did, you'd be absolutely certain that King isn't irrelevant. I think he's right because I'm gloating about Marvels' failure.
/r/MensRights15/11/23 03:28 AM
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That's a mischaracterization. What he's judging is all the guys who are glad that it's failing. Most of the time, people hope movies will be good enough that they want to go see them. But, I have to plead guilty. I'm a guy who's glad it's failing. Guys want to identify with guy heroes. Women don't want to identify with superhero women. The genre should be aimed more at men because we are the natural audience. When they fill the genre with women heroes who don't much like men, men don't like that…
/r/MensRights15/11/23 03:25 AM
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I've been thinking for a while that most "misogyny" is actually women projecting their own misandry.
/r/MensRights15/11/23 02:38 AM
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Not really. I'm not a very social guy, but I don't remember ever hearing a group of the guys I was hanging out with, or working with, go on in a misogynistic way. But, given that there are thousands of ways to be misogynistic these days, I probably overlooked some.
/r/MensRights15/11/23 02:36 AM
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I'd believe her enough to want to see an investigation.
/r/MensRights13/11/23 02:19 AM
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There was a post here a few days ago about how 63% of young men are single. That HAD to mean that lots of women are single also, unless a lot of them are sharing the same man, or dating other women. Having seen the OP statistic before, the article that made that claim stated that more women are in relationships with other women than men are with men. Dunno. In these times, I almost wish I were gay. Imagine dating a person who has pretty much the same expectations of you that you have of them?
/r/MensRights09/11/23 09:53 PM
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Eh, I'm getting to the point where I don't give a damn about protecting women, in a general way. I'll protect my wife; the rest of the women can protect themselves.
/r/MensRights09/11/23 09:46 PM
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Women Going Their Own Way. Just as with MGTOW, it's about women who've pretty much had it with the opposite sex. (Jeez, in these times of wokeness, is there such a thing as the opposite sex anymore?)
/r/MensRights09/11/23 09:43 PM
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If those men aren't paired with women, then there are a lot of women who aren't paired with men. So, if they aren't dating other women, how are there not at least 50% of women who are also single? EDIT: next day, in MensRights, a post about how 50% of women are single appeared.
/r/MensRights06/11/23 07:51 PM
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I didn't know there was anything to get until I read your reply.
/r/MensRights06/11/23 07:50 PM
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In the early days of the Church, they had an epic centuries long battle with the Roman pagans. Pagans fed them to lions for entertainment. I read that that was a myth - or a story cherished by the Church because victimhood is good for business.
/r/MensRights06/11/23 07:43 PM
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...because women care a lot more about other women than they do about men. Studies tell us that men also like women better. So, unfortunately for us, everybody likes women better, so everybody cares about women more. It's the same thing when they tell you 87 people were killed in a train wreck, with 23 of them being women and children. All lives aren't valued equally. How's THAT for privilege, Ladies?
/r/MensRights06/11/23 07:41 PM
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It's a stoic idea - and maybe it's shared elsewhere, that how we react to what happens is quite often much more important than what happens. Thus, your problem is in your own mind, much more than all the external issues you talk about.You have more control over how you use your mind than you think, and you won't be happy if you keep focusing so much on what makes you miserable.
/r/MensRights06/11/23 07:38 PM
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Some people will tell you that it's impossible to be sexist towards men, the same way it's impossible to be racist towards white people in a place like the US. The idea is that one has to have social, legal hegemony to be able to muster the power to be truly sexist or racist. But, more and more, 'racist' and 'sexist' are used to mean 'prejudiced.' And, there's no doubt at all that women are at least as prejudiced about men as men are about women.
/r/MensRights06/11/23 07:32 PM
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Actually, I like to fantasize about what life could be like if men joined together to create the patriarchy that women claim now exists.
/r/MensRights06/11/23 07:28 PM
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The odd thing is, they hate MGTOW. You'd think women would be happy if men would just leave them alone. To me, the biggest justification for MGTOW is that women have so little use for men in these times, that men should find ways to make their lives meaningful and satisfying without relying on women.
/r/MensRights06/11/23 07:25 PM
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Yeah, I think they should fire the bitch for hate mongering.
/r/MensRights06/11/23 07:23 PM
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Not for me; I stopped believing in God shortly after I stopped believing in Santa Clause. There's a reason they get children who are too young to reason for themselves and start pumping them full of propaganda, sans any trace of evidence of any kind - well, except for a few accounts written some 400 years after the fact. I actually believe God exists, now, as a result of reading numerous accounts of people who've had higher consciousness and enlightenment experiences over the last 2,000 years, o…
/r/MensRights06/11/23 07:22 PM
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I like that women have many more choices than when I was young. And, I don't like that they demonized the most egalitarian men who've ever lived, to do it.
/r/MensRights06/11/23 07:07 PM
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99% of the posts are about men who are victimized and/or regarded in a completely negative light. Women come into that in that women are the reason why men are victimized. None of this is happening in a vacuum.
/r/MensRights30/10/23 06:55 PM
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When I see women calling out the hypocrisy of women, I'll have more interest in pointing out what men do.
/r/MensRights13/10/23 08:51 PM
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Except, without other evidence, the cops will believe her when she says you hit without provocation. Or, they too believe that it's only a crime when a man hits, even if he's hitting back.
/r/MensRights13/10/23 08:49 PM
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Me, I just wish they could punch the shit out of their abusers, and then be treated the same way women who hit men would be treated. There would be NO MORE abuse of men by women.
/r/MensRights11/10/23 08:21 PM
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Why would gay men think straight men are decent? For most of history, straight men have made the lives of gay men a living hell. You thought that all that would be completely forgotten?! Fact is, straight men made the lives of many straight men a living hell; one of the ways for men to screw other men, especially a few decades past, was to question their masculinity. So, if gay men are on the side of women over men, sorry, but it's a bed straight men have made. BTW, I'm straight.
/r/MensRights02/10/23 10:34 PM
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the corollary to women wearing makeup would be men who present the trappings of wealth - a fine car, fine clothing, etc.
/r/MensRights01/10/23 08:37 PM
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I think women should be believed every time - to the extent that actual evidence is sought. If none is found, end of story.
/r/MensRights28/09/23 07:51 PM
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For every guy worried about raising some other guy's kid, there's a guy who's worried that he'll be found out as the father of a kid that he's not paying for.
/r/MensRights26/09/23 09:08 PM
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Well, that would save time for both parties. I'd get up and walk out on a woman who asked that on a first date.
/r/MensRights05/09/23 09:13 PM
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That's not petty; that's just pushing for actual equality. But, Spain is a very feminist influenced nation. I'm very surprised that guy didn't know better.
/r/MensRights03/09/23 09:10 PM
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It would depend on how obnoxious she was about it. And, it would be much more acceptable to me if she were actually fair about men's rights, too.
/r/MensRights03/09/23 09:08 PM
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Yes, men bear part of the responsibility - but only part. As you tell by all the down votes, your opinion isn't shared by everybody.
/r/MensRights03/09/23 09:03 PM
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western men are just as if not more feminist than women Maybe some of them are. Maybe too many of them are. But, quite a lot of that is changing for the better.
/r/MensRights03/09/23 08:58 PM
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Yes, you're a conservative who doesn't like liberals. And, people like you could easily spread the liberal/conservative division into this subreddit. We should avoid that, and hang together on issues facing men.
/r/MensRights03/09/23 08:57 PM
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I actually saw a guy like that when I worked at a large institution for developmentally challenged people, as a young man. Honestly, I didn't figure that out until quite a while later. Nobody talked about it, and I didn't give it a lot of thought at the time. But, there was nothing down there - the WHOLE thing was gone. That was in the early 70s.
/r/MensRights03/09/23 08:44 PM
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It's up to us to be good to each other.
/r/MensRights03/09/23 08:36 PM
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This comes down to that thought crime that men commit, of finding women sexually attractive. Only attractive men should be allowed to do that. So, the thought of some MtF "spy" having sexual thoughts is really upsetting to some women.
/r/MensRights03/09/23 08:35 PM
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We don't have to wait that long.
/r/MensRights03/09/23 08:28 PM
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I suspect that it's true, because I see a lot more men concerned about MeToo lies and false SA accusations than about rape. Hey, guys need some in-group bias, too.
/r/MensRights03/09/23 08:26 PM
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If somebody has to tell you to stand up to this bitch and/or just leave her, then there's probably little point in telling you that.
/r/MensRights03/09/23 08:21 PM
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Feminists are interested in forwarding women's interests. I have a hard time believing most of them care much about men's issues.
/r/MensRights03/09/23 08:16 PM
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Wouldn't it have been quicker just to say, "online dating" in the first place?
/r/MensRights03/09/23 08:13 PM
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They get humbled when the majority of women realize they aren't settling down with a top 20% man. Then they get older and those men are sleeping with younger women. Then, they have to settle for the rest of us, or settle for WGTOW.
/r/MensRights03/09/23 08:11 PM
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Think of all those aeons we were hunter-gatherers. Unless all the women were regularly raped, the alpha males probably got most of the women. I've seen figures of around 40% for the men who passed on their genes. The difference is, most men would sleep with most women. But, most men wouldn't stay with most women. And, all the men that most women desire have too many choices, so most women just aren't going to have a relationship with them. So, if most women want to marry, they're settling for th…
/r/MensRights03/09/23 08:07 PM
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I have the same response to your posts about this: so what? It's not important, and it's off the topic.
/r/MensRights26/08/23 07:26 PM
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Truth doesn't hurt. YOU hurt, and you think other people should get over it. That makes you a lot worse than stupid. There's some truth for you to get over.
/r/MensRights23/08/23 07:40 PM
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OUT OF ALL THAT, I latched onto 2 ideas; 1) it's part of innate female sexuality for women to want to make themselves more attractive, and 2) once again, women seem to be advocating for different rules for men and women, with the idea that that will ultimately create equality.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 09:18 PM
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What pissed me off was just what I stated; you calling somebody a moron over a disagreement on hair length. Do you find that you get more people to agree with you when you insult them? I'm guessing that you don't, but you just don't control your urge to demean another person. Maybe there's a lot more to the idea of emotional intelligence than I've realized, so far.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 09:09 PM
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Yeah, maybe. I think women want legal abortions so they can get out of the responsibility and expense of raising a child for 18+ years.
/r/MensRights16/08/23 09:40 PM
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It wouldn't surprise me if she didn't like the opposite case. That said, you have a right to want her to pursue sex because she wants to be with you, and not use you as a dildo.
/r/MensRights16/08/23 09:35 PM
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So long as you hurt no one else, your gender isn't my business.
/r/MensRights16/08/23 09:32 PM
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Is this explained largely by the fact that his audience is predominantly women? As in, what happens to his ratings if he tells women they're to blame for much of the trouble in their relationships?
/r/MensRights16/08/23 08:23 PM
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The majority of women are fine with male-only conscription Some percentage of men believe men should protect women. So, there will always be a majority that favors male-only conscription. Feminists, if they say anything at all, will blame the patriarchy.
/r/MensRights16/08/23 08:04 PM
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About the sheltered life, you should see a real fit. And, we all disapprove of things. I, for instance, disapprove about people referring to others' disagreements with you as "whining." One could legitimately call that whining about the whining of others.
/r/MensRights11/08/23 11:13 PM
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You will find yourself insulted less often if you avoid calling people who see things differently from you, a moron. Not hilariously ignorant - we all grew up with other children who gave us lots of experiences of not being accepted. But, you "speak" as though your idea of how long hair should be is the correct one. Insultingly. You should avoid that if you want to avoid people insulting your IQ.
/r/MensRights11/08/23 11:06 PM
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I see your point, but I really like the energy with which you expressed it!
/r/MensRights16/07/23 10:33 PM
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THAT was a fit? You must've led a very sheltered life.
/r/MensRights16/07/23 10:30 PM
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You extrapolate to all men?! That doesn't say good things about you. You should be better.
/r/MensRights16/07/23 10:28 PM
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S/he raised a valid point - although, now that I think about it, a more complex and confusing dress code...sure looks a lot less restricting than the easily recognizable/enforceable male dress code. Men simply aren't allowed a more confusing, complex dress code. That, right off, makes it more restricting.
/r/MensRights16/07/23 10:27 PM
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Your opinion isn't stupid; your certainty that it's more than your opinion is.
/r/MensRights16/07/23 10:08 PM
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Your post is simply an expression of your belief, which, strangely enough, fits your narrative.
/r/MensRights16/07/23 10:06 PM
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This, right here, demonstrates that, statistically, for every person with an IQ of, say 120, there's somebody else with an IQ of 80. (Yes, of course; for every person at 120, there could be 20 people at 99. My point, in case it's not obvious, is that some people would benefit themselves, and everybody around them, by ceasing to believe their opinion is the right one, and that they should insult the people who don't know that.)
/r/MensRights16/07/23 09:54 PM
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You come across as overly rigid, controlling, and judgemental. Your idea of what girls and boys should look like is the correct one, in your mind. You imply that any self-autonomy on the part of a child is bad for the child. Sounds ridiculous to me. Again, either extreme seems problematic, to me - complete choice and very little-to-no choice. Sometimes, it's better to let a child face consequences, and adjust, if they choose to. Other times, the consequences are too harmful to let a child choose…
/r/MensRights16/07/23 09:46 PM
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If it matters to you, then it matters to you. His point was about female privilege. I thought that was more interesting, and more relevant to this subreddit.
/r/MensRights16/07/23 09:37 PM
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It's bizarre that you think his objection is bizarre. Individual tastes may vary. How bizarre.
/r/MensRights16/07/23 09:34 PM
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My wife would beg to differ. Arnold - THE Arnold, once said that about half of women liked all his muscles, when he was in his bodybuilding prime, and half didn't. He used to "accidentally" pop a biceps flex just to horrify the ones that didn't.
/r/MensRights16/07/23 08:54 PM
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It's because that's considered admirable and attractive in our society, the same way beautiful women are. Women like strong men, and men want to be strong men. Strong men don't get pushed around. It's about perceived power and desirable traits to pass on to children.
/r/MensRights16/07/23 08:52 PM
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I don't disagree, overall, but your scenario mostly describes a situation where none of those 16 dead men were able to reproduce before dying. Thus, I'd have to guess that the ratio wasn't 1 to 17. A figure I ran into sometime in the past, but now have to question; I've read that, in the whole time that humans have been distinctly human - some hundreds of thousands of years, something like 40% of men reproduced, compared to about 80% of women. No, I don't have that link, because it's some years …
/r/MensRights16/07/23 08:37 PM
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MGTOW is the best default. Expect nothing, offer only what it pleases you to offer. When enough men do that, women will have to adjust, or make other arrangements.
/r/MensRights16/07/23 08:12 PM
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Molester, it's been a while since I saw a person demonstrate such a need to be a complete asshole on social media. You deserve a prize.
/r/MensRights16/07/23 08:08 PM
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Or, do without marriage. Women are driving a lot of this; they're the ones deciding that they'd rather not marry a man who isn't as educated, and who doesn't make at least roughly the same money that those women do.
/r/MensRights16/07/23 07:53 PM
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Not all women are ‘whores’, I would guess only a few are. You do realize that what defines a woman as a whore is vastly different from what it was in the past? That makes it something that the rest of us define; it's a moving target.
/r/MensRights16/07/23 07:48 PM
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The good thing about weight is, the number correlates closely with appearance. Thus, a person doesn't really need to ask for the number. A glance tells us all that's relevant.
/r/MensRights16/07/23 07:38 PM
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That's the logical stance. The real one is women wanting whatever suits them most, given the circumstances. And, they choose privilege, more often than not.
/r/MensRights16/07/23 07:21 PM
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I don’t feel sorry for a man who gets treated like shit/demasculated/belittled and does nothing about it. I do. Some mom behavior doesn't manifest until there are children. Not putting up with her shit could very, very easily lead to divorce, where she gets the house, the kids, and at least half the assets. So, it's a trade-off between having your life ruined, and your life diminished.
/r/MensRights16/07/23 07:18 PM
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The answer is obvious; it's because men, themselves, are mostly regarded as being important only as oppressors of women.
/r/MensRights15/07/23 06:12 PM
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I kept noticing that feminists and their sympathizers never talked about the sexism of women, nor the privileges that they hold. And, the overall hypocrisy of women who only talk about the sexism and privileges of men.
/r/MensRights15/07/23 06:09 PM
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OPinions will vary, of course. How could anybody expect anything different? To me, it's not my version of hate speech. But, it strongly implies that all men need special training to not be complete assholes, and, in my very limited experience, is usually said by people who seem to believe that. Which, of course, makes me think that misandry is a lot more common than misogyny, and that all the misogyny many women never stop referring to is actually them projecting, based on their own misandry.
/r/MensRights15/07/23 06:04 PM
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You're in a men's rights subreddit. That means people point out plots and real life situations where men would be the bad guys if they did what women do. The point here is, it's considered entertainment by some people because a women sexually harasses and rapes a man, while it would be a complete outrage if a man were paid to sexually harass and rape a woman. The biggest problem men face is that our culture employs different rules, and even laws, for men and women.
/r/MensRights28/06/23 05:58 AM
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I'd like to hear more about the mandatory and involuntary attendance. That sounds like more of a problem than the movie you claim you were forced to attend.
/r/MensRights28/06/23 05:56 AM
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Sounds like it was intended to be an insult. But, banned? Well, there's a gym you don't want to belong to, anyway.
/r/MensRights28/06/23 05:33 AM
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A man who did such things would still be in jail.
/r/MensRights28/06/23 05:29 AM
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Make men weak. Sounds like right wing conspiracy theory that somebody learned about in a right wing echo chamber. I'm hoping this doesn't turn into a right wing echo chamber.
/r/MensRights28/06/23 05:27 AM
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Recently, I saw posts stating and supporting messages that women are only good for sex in this sub. But, for the most part, what I've seen here are endless posts opposing misandry, unfair treatment of men, and the hypocrisy of some feminists.
/r/MensRights23/06/23 08:26 PM
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I don't understand. Are you saying that most women go out with some exceptional guy? As in, they're all sharing the same minority of men. That works for no-strings-attached sex, but not for relationships. I've read that there are more lesbians than gay men, which is a part of why there are more single guys than women.
/r/MensRights17/06/23 09:56 PM
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A few weeks back, I ran into a number of posts telling us women are only good for sex in this subreddit. There IS misogyny, here. And, the people who post it are hurting all men. That, of course, made me wonder about false-flag posts. But, I wasn't seeing a lot of pushback from the guys here, so...
/r/MensRights04/06/23 08:08 PM
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A certain number of men will now have to support children they didn't want. I know you'll find reasons to think that's fine, but there's no way around the fact that you're hurting men, too.
/r/MensRights30/05/23 12:18 AM
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Just watched an old (I believe) interview of Jordan Peterson and a UK woman news personality about the pay gap. The disturbing thing was, the woman kept going on about how unfair the gap was, but really didn't want to hear ANY of the reasons for it - for instance, men choosing less satisfying work, traveling farther, NOT taking time off for children, and working longer hours. About time off for children, the things I've seen tell us that women want to be the one to stay home - they don't want to…
/r/MensRights19/05/23 08:44 PM
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I'd have to guess that the app will depend on what data women enter into it. And, women tend to be less aware of what men do, that women don't want to do, around the house. Plus, women clean to their own standards. If they have higher standards for cleaning and other housework, of course they're going to be working more. Further, would women enter the longer hours that men work outside the house, including travel time? Less likely. My concern would be that, with those considerations in mind, and…
/r/MensRights19/05/23 08:37 PM
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I'm not sure about the supremacy. To me, it looks like women look under every rock for issues concerning women, while pretty much ignoring men's issues. That would have the same result as actively looking for supremacy. And, we can assume that some minority of women IS looking for supremacy.
/r/MensRights19/05/23 08:33 PM
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SOME feminists talk about making things better for men. A few women do, too. But, it really looks like the general idea of equality for those people is about making women's lives much better, and assuming that men have no issues that modern societies should be concerned about.
/r/MensRights19/05/23 08:30 PM
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I was reading posts in this Subreddit yesterday. I swear there were a BUNCH of posts telling us that women are only good for sex. I can't think of a better way to get people to think MRAs are mostly misogynists.
/r/MensRights19/05/23 04:38 AM
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That's the way that feminist chooses to see the world. Lots of black and white, not much gray. but, honestly, I don't see much in the way of feminists advocating for men, while I see a lot of opposition to reasonable positions that MRAs support. From my PoV, that feminist pretty much ignores that, by calling such opposition misandry. Thus, feminism remains, in that person's eyes, all good, and deserving of no criticism whatsoever.
/r/MensRights16/05/23 08:53 PM
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You're right. This BS is why people see Men's Rights as mostly about misogyny - because these people ARE misogynistic. Thus, they're actually setting men's rights back. If you think about it, how better for a misandrist to harm men than to make such statements? That's probably not what's happening, but it would be a good tactic for people who really don't like men.
/r/MensRights16/05/23 07:58 PM
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Sorry, gotta disagree. While I don't like that one of my basic needs is controlled by, often enough, an opposing group of people, women are more like us than different. Thus, they have most of the same qualities we do. Your statement is the equivalent of a woman telling us that the only useful thing about men is when we give them money.
/r/MensRights16/05/23 07:54 PM
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Well, it's the same everywhere; you support what you think is factual and reasonable, and oppose what is other than that. Of course you're going to find men who are misogynistic here, just as you'll find lots of misandry in subs that support feminism. This is a natural draw for men who've come to oppose all things female.
/r/MensRights16/05/23 07:45 PM
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IF I UNDERSTAND THE LAST FEW POSTS - questionable. Women aren't just good for sex, and reasonable men wouldn't support such a statement. But, feminism has a lot of what I think of as bad contained within, along with the general support of women. Some of the bad is prejudice against men's rights. Thus, it IS somewhat contradictory to support ment's rights AND feminism. How contradictory that is depends on how much anti-male rhetoric you see coming from avowed feminists...AND how much anti-woman r…
/r/MensRights16/05/23 07:42 PM
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From what I've read, Farrel was on a LOCAL board for NOW - New York?, not some national center. And, he got that treatment when he started pointing out the inaccuracies and prejudices of feminist points.
/r/MensRights16/05/23 07:33 PM
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I just ran into a number of posts that tell us women are useless, except for sex. OF COURSE PEOPLE WHO READ THINGS LIKE THAT ARE GOING TO THINK MRAs ARE ALL MISOGYNISTIC INCELS!!! They read things like that, and ignore all the reasonable, factual posts. If you want to discredit MRAs, the simplest tactic is to write completely misogynistic posts in this subreddit. ​ So, I do have to wonder if some of that IS by people who want to discredit MRAs.
/r/MensRights16/05/23 07:27 PM
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I could live with this, if they also had an equal number of male-only parks. ​ I'm so glad I don't live in India...or Spain.
/r/MensRights16/05/23 07:14 PM
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I mean, there ISNT a network currently on air that hasn't been caught lying to push an agenda... Some more than others. The Big Lie has been very harmful to democracy, but very useful for Republicans/conservatives. And, again, would you rather hear "facts" from somebody whom you know to lie a lot, or shades the truth, or from somebody you know to have more integrity? If you hear the same facts from several different sources, are you more likely to believe that, than from a single source that has…
/r/MensRights16/05/23 07:11 PM
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Fox was designed to focus on and support conservative viewpoints. They've been willing to lie, at length, to support conservative viewpoints. I'd go elsewhere, preferably to several reputable sources, instead of wasting my time wondering if Fox is lying again.
/r/MensRights16/05/23 06:56 PM
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Fox? Sorry, I have to draw a line somewhere.
/r/MensRights16/05/23 06:43 PM
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It seems to me that women have not-so-quietly quitting men for some time, now. It makes sense that men are following suit. Now, men just need to make themselves satisfied by a life that doesn't much involve women.
/r/MensRights13/05/23 09:05 PM
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Perfectly sums up how I feel about modern men! Context tells me you don't think much of modern men.
/r/MensRights13/05/23 09:00 PM
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She's written a few songs about former, celebrity dates/BFs.
/r/MensRights13/05/23 08:56 PM
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Rape Culture is simply anti-male propaganda - misandry, in a word.
/r/MensRights13/05/23 08:51 PM
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That's like saying women are misandrist because they want a man who's as educated and financially successful - or more, than they, themselves are. Many can't find such a man, so they don't marry. If women aren't what men want as much as we used to, then of course fewer men will marry. That's not misogyny any more than women choosing more successful men is misandry.
/r/MensRights09/05/23 11:32 PM
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Do you think men answer those questions with their wives listening or looking over their shoulders?
/r/MensRights09/05/23 10:49 PM
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I can't provide a citation or link, but I distinctly recall a guy who donated sperm to a lesbian couple. The couple split up, and of course the non-custodial parent wouldn't help support the child, so the custodial parent brought the man to court for support. I don't know if he was found to be financially responsible, for certain, but I do believe he was. Don't do it.
/r/MensRights09/05/23 09:52 PM
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It's ok, you can say "sexual."
/r/MensRights27/04/23 07:15 PM
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"Women don't find more than 80% of men attractive." That could be understood to mean that women find about 80% of men to be attractive, but not more. The way I've seen it put is that women find about 80% of men to be unattractive. BTW, I've honestly been noticing that it's mostly only young women that are physically attractive. Older women, for the most part, are quite a bit less attractive. So, about 60-70% of younger women are attractive, and maybe about 10% of older women are. Thus, at least …
/r/MensRights27/04/23 07:08 PM
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Right. That would be good to do if you already have another job lined up.
/r/MensRights27/04/23 06:36 PM
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That is so clever. And, that is so true.
/r/MensRights27/04/23 06:34 PM
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Behind every great man, etc., etc. When somebody pulls that one out, I usually remind that person that women stood behind most of the losers, too. BTW, I'm so definitely a loser in terms of making money.
/r/MensRights27/04/23 06:33 PM
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Yeah, they don't agree now. I begin to suspect that sex roles really are a whole lot less useful in modern civilization. I suspect that the division that existed for eons existed for very good reasons.
/r/MensRights27/04/23 06:30 PM
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It means she's a lot more concerned about women than she is about male babies. Plus, it's a way to diminish concern about circumcision, if somewhere, women have it worse.
/r/MensRights27/04/23 06:21 PM
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OK, that takes Istanbul off my bucket list. I read once that foreigners have no legal rights in Turkey. Can anyone confirm or deny?
/r/MensRights27/04/23 06:19 PM
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DIDN'T READ ALL THAT. MIGHT LATER. My personal misogyny is almost exclusively in reaction to the misandry of feminists and many women. Any time one group trashes another group, you can count on the trashed group to reciprocate.
/r/MensRights23/04/23 08:21 PM
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Now, there's a crime that it's basically impossible for a man to commit.
/r/MensRights14/04/23 07:44 PM
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It still affects me. Not that term, specifically, but the general expectation of both men and women that men are supposed to grin and bear treatment and conditions that would never be acceptable for women. I would be very surprised if some of the men who think they're no longer affected by that expectation aren't actually more affected than they generally realize.
/r/MensRights14/04/23 07:38 PM
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When I used to check out Reddit MGTOW, most of the misogyny there was from men who'd been trashed by women and family courts. And, by your more outrageous gold-diggers. Privilege. Being judged much more leniently for the same act, and having the general sympathy of most of our society, is, maybe the ultimate privilege to hold.
/r/MensRights14/04/23 07:34 PM
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That's one way of looking at it. Have you ever noticed how much women seem to prefer the company of other women? And, they can always find some guy to fuck them, while lying about being on birth control. So, it might work out that women partner with other women to raise their girl children.
/r/MensRights10/04/23 10:24 PM
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Given that one man can impregnate numerous women, and that women aren't attracted to 80% of men, and that women have a greater in-group bias, and that some women have either girl babies or abortions, we could be looking at a society with significantly more women than men in the future.
/r/MensRights10/04/23 10:21 PM
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It's not to be expected; it's to be volunteered when a man feels the urge.
/r/MensRights10/04/23 10:18 PM
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You got smart when you stopped falling for such a mess. Good on you.
/r/MensRights25/03/23 09:59 PM
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You're asking that basic question in the wrong subreddit. The answers you're going to get here, mostly, aren't from the POV of people who feel like they're expected to do things that men aren't expected to do, because most of us are men, not women. Do women feel like they're expected to do things that men aren't expected to do? It sure seems like they do. Thus, you need to ask that question of women, not men. What you're going to get here is mostly going to be from people who think the way you d…
/r/MensRights25/03/23 09:51 PM
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As people have long pointed out, if women would be willing to work for less, with everything else equal, why would they ever hire men? Men make more money when they have more experience, more training, work more hours, change jobs for higher pay, and travel farther than woman. When everything is equal, it's discrimination to pay women less, so companies avoid it. As far as I know, women want the same pay if they do the same job, regardless of the extenuating factors above. They think it's discri…
/r/MensRights18/03/23 09:04 PM
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I'd read 80-20.
/r/MensRights18/03/23 10:29 AM
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Do you know for sure that they weren't also dating other guys?
/r/MensRights18/03/23 10:29 AM
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Gotta hate that rules for me, not for thee, shit. Objectification is bad if men do it. That says that all objectification by men is worse, because some of them assault women. It's also the reason men jump through hoops for women, ask them out, pay for dates, etc., etc. Thus, it's not the objectification, which is a mental action, so to speak; it's the sexual assault that's bad. Thus, objectification is neutral.
/r/MensRights18/03/23 10:15 AM
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I forgot. I tend to think of looks as just a person's face. But, it's height, hair, or lack thereof, weight, clothing, and appearance of wealth, or lack thereof, too. About sexual violence: WASHINGTON / April 5, 2021 – Last week, President Joe Biden issued a Proclamation on National Sexual Assault Prevention and Awareness Month. The proclamation emphasizes, “According to the National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey, done by the CDC, one in five women has been a victim of a completed …
/r/MensRights18/03/23 10:03 AM
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since women experience so much sexual violence. You know, because I think a lot of women would lie about experiencing it, for attention, and to further the cause against the enemy that is men, I'm not sure I'd believe an anonymous poll to find out how much sexual violence women actually experience. I get it that that's pretty prejudiced, but I have a hard time thinking that we could get an accurate figure. About emotions I ran into an askmen post the other day about whom men opened up to when th…
/r/MensRights18/03/23 09:57 AM
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Didn't read all that. I think some level of objectification is good and natural. Otherwise men wouldn't be attracted to women, and the human race wouldn't have made it this far.
/r/MensRights18/03/23 09:48 AM
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...not to mention, rich, handsome, famous older men.
/r/MensRights18/03/23 08:40 AM
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It seems to me that women have always liked dating older, rich, famous men. But, many people want to see those men as creepy, even though older men have always liked dating young, fertile, sexually attractive women. My point is, those young women are completely happy to be with someone like DiCaprio. I suspect they couldn't be happier. They don't need protecting. To me, this is just more of the belief that male sexuality is inherently bad. I'm sure there are numerous books about our general perc…
/r/MensRights18/03/23 08:34 AM
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White men are the most likely to think they're the least easily manipulated? Sorry, we're all very easily manipulated. Just tell us what we want to hear, and we'll eat it right up. I don't mean just white men; I mean everybody.
/r/MensRights18/03/23 08:05 AM
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Ok. Do you also want to include some of the numerous articles about the dangers of global warming, along with the fact that something over 90 percent of scientists - you know, the people who know a lot more about science than you or I do, believe that global warming is real, it's here, and it's going to be a fucking disaster? BTW, I'm assuming those articles pretty much tell you that we don't really have to worry about global warming. I could be wrong, because I didn't read them. But, if they ar…
/r/MensRights18/03/23 08:03 AM
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I didn't see it as putting men down, but more as pointing out the parts that wouldn't be there without women. But, as others here point out, they'll never point out what things would be like without men. That's the unfair part. Especially when you add it to all the other, endless unfair statements made about men, for about the last 50+ years.
/r/MensRights18/03/23 07:58 AM
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I don't care if women want to raise funds to create domestic abuse shelters for women. I mind if women propagandize to get legislators to use taxpayer money for shelters exclusively for women.
/r/MensRights18/03/23 07:40 AM
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Actually it includes lots of both. Voting on MRM issues alone, is like voting on abortion alone. Some people will do that, while others will look at a wider range of issues.
/r/MensRights18/03/23 07:36 AM
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I think we make a big mistake by bringing politics into this, because we are so divided, and neither side thinks the other side has any brains at all. We will do better to talk about what we can have some agreement on.
/r/MensRights18/03/23 07:24 AM
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If I only voted on men's rights, I might vote Republican. But it's not the most important issue in the world, to me. See, I actually believe all those scientists who tell us civilization could end unless we fix global warming. And, we're not doing near enough, because so many people believe the propaganda that tells them it's all a hoax. Men's rights aren't going to be an issue if the food chain breaks and civilization ends. Fucking survival will become far, far more of an issue, rather than the…
/r/MensRights18/03/23 07:16 AM
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So, you've avoided all the statistics about blacks receiving longer sentences for the same crimes, and how black people are disproportionately killed by police? Never read the fact that blacks were pretty much excluded from the GI bill, which is how so many poorer whites were able to go to college and buy homes? Never read about redlining in applying for mortgages? Never read about the difference in funding that primarily black public schools receive vs. primarily white schools? Have you ever re…
/r/MensRights18/03/23 06:51 AM
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Exactly. I'd have to guess that when the victim and victimizer are both female, the sentence is a good deal higher than when the victim is male. Then, you probably have to add in anti-lesbian bias. I suppose we could compare sentences when men victimize boys vs when men victimize girls, to get a better read on that aspect. Well, maybe not, because offsetting that would be the fact that males are less protected, in general. Muddled.
/r/MensRights18/03/23 06:26 AM
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Feminism really can't look at men's issues, because it's a zero sum game. Every men's issue points out that sexual discrimination doesn't happen exclusively to women. If you want to motivate people to support your side, you have to minimize or refute what the other side says. When you asked the question about IWD vs. IMD, you were questioning their narrative, and presenting evidence that contradicted their beliefs. Quite often, that's equated to misogyny.
/r/MensRights18/03/23 05:45 AM
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Women have quite a lot of power these days, based on the premise that men hold all the power. That's why it's a holiday for women, and and a celebration for men.
/r/MensRights18/03/23 05:41 AM
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Why wouldn't some feminists, and some regular women want to shut down guys who say some feminists and some women are misandrists? What better way to do that than point out only the more extreme anti-feminists? I'm sure some MRAs ARE opposed to LBBTQ+ rights. But, some feminists are murderers, sociopaths, and all manner of evil. That doesn't make it correct to say the whole movement is about murder.
/r/MensRights18/03/23 05:10 AM
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Jesus fucking christ! That was like War and Peace. I stopped reading at about the point where she was treating you like shit, and you kept going back for more, and trying to be friends. Sorry you ran into real problems with her, but I hope to fuck you learned a lesson. When women start to treat you badly, STOP TRYING TO BE FRIENDS!!! Leave them alone, never talk to them again.
/r/MensRights18/03/23 05:01 AM
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The obvious: imagine what would've happened to a stepfather who killed his stepdaughter.
/r/MensRights18/03/23 04:53 AM
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...sounds like something a 10-year-old might say.
/r/MensRights18/03/23 04:51 AM
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...only not in my lifetime.
/r/MensRights18/03/23 04:48 AM
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The whole point of feminism was to get everybody to notice how women were discriminated against, with men being seen as the ones doing the discriminating. Over time, that pretty much generalized to men bad, women good. It became politically incorrect to notice that women aren't so good, after all, and men aren't so bad. IN another OP, selection bias, confirmation bias, and cognitive bias are discussed, which relates directly to the societal belief.
/r/MensRights18/03/23 04:41 AM
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While true, it has little to do with the current OP and thread.
/r/MensRights18/03/23 04:15 AM
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The obvious - and this is probably the 10th post, at least, to point it out: it WOULD be a crisis if it were women who comprised about 40% of students matriculating in colleges and universities. And, it would a major crisis if studies were showing that male teachers consistently mark male students with higher grades, even though test scores didn't merit that.
/r/MensRights18/03/23 04:10 AM
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Acta Non Verba Acta non verba is an expression that translates to “actions not words”. In simpler terms, this phrase says to act, not waste time with words. It’s a motivating phrase encouraging others to stop thinking so much and to do their actions.
/r/MensRights18/03/23 04:06 AM
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Yes, that's a tactic some women use to shut down opposition. It's like an octopus throwing up a cloud of ink, to confuse the situation, and allow it to escape. It also makes you out to be the bad guy - literally, to anybody who basically agrees with feminism. Any feminist can always claim MISOGYNY!! at the top of her lungs, and she immediately has allies who will take her side. And, besides, you're just a misogynist black guy, and she felt attacked, and helpless, and she was just defending herse…
/r/MensRights18/03/23 04:01 AM
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Women are seen as being more sociable - except to unwanted men who want to date them. One of the ways to be sociable is to smile, and look pleased by the social attention from, and interaction with, others. Thus, women probably are expected to act more sociable, and encouraged to appear to enjoy it more than men are. Of course, one of the main advantages that women have over men is that everybody, men and women alike, likes them more, protects them more, and treats them better. It's to women's a…
/r/MensRights11/03/23 11:34 PM
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Yes, he's 15. Not all 15-year olds are as politic as they will be when they have more experience. The thing is, it was a power imbalance. His was a fair question, and it wasn't an insult. He simply pointed out a personal instance of women being granted custody the majority of the time. What was considered insulting about it by the teacher was that he was right, and it contradicted the teacher's position in front of witnesses that she needed to maintain control over. She was embarassed and made t…
/r/MensRights11/03/23 11:26 PM
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Well, let's say that you asked your questions in a reasonable, insult-free way. You found out from your teacher about one of the ways women prevent young men from asking such obvious questions. That was a lesson for you and for every other guy who observed it. It was also a lesson for the young women who watched, which your sister has obviously already learned. If you question their assertions, it doesn't matter how reasonable your questions are; you are the enemy, and you must be made to suffer…
/r/MensRights11/03/23 11:18 PM
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I saw a social media post recently asking women how they would feel if their man asked for a paternity test about a baby. Can't say I read very far down the responses, but the few that I looked at were consistent, with the women saying they would leave a man who wouldn't just trust them.
/r/MensRights11/03/23 11:13 PM
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Women are no less hypocritical then men are. But, one of the signs of power is the ability to keep it from being noticed as readily by the larger culture.
/r/MensRights11/03/23 11:08 PM
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So, how do they NOT notice that women with great bodies are often very willing to show them off, just as men with great bodies do? How is that not body positivity? I swear, I get a 'news' feed on my phone that often includes women pretty much bragging about the effect they have on men. This, while we're so often told that women don't want to be seen as sex objects - until they do want to be seen as sex objects. Thing is, men really do pay quite a lot of attention to attractive women - mostly tha…
/r/MensRights11/03/23 09:28 PM
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She's not claiming to be skinny; she's saying that she's still pretty, even though she's huge. The corrolary would be men with small penises finding good things about small penises.
/r/MensRights11/03/23 09:19 PM
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Really obese people already have some serious health issues to deal with. They're trying to remove shame and guilt from the burden. And, sometimes people in that situation will point out the faults of the people they think of as rejecting them regularly. As in, who's that short guy to think he can criticize me?! Bet he has a 2-inch dick! And, let's face it, every group is much more willing to recognize it's own positive assets, and overlook it's own faults, while doing the exact opposite with gr…
/r/MensRights11/03/23 09:15 PM
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Consider that THIS group is also an outlet for rants. Do you also tell the folks at TwoXChromosomes that they need to try to understand men, instead of hating us?
/r/MensRights11/03/23 09:04 PM
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Given the greater in-group bias among women, and given how easy it is to find women trashing men each and every day, I really think the whole idea of misogyny is the projection of the misandry of women. Even if that's not the whole story, I have to think its a large part of it. Further, given how easy it is to hold animosity against those who hold it against you, or against one of the groups you belong to, I have to think that some part of misogyny among men is in reaction to the misandry of wom…
/r/MensRights11/03/23 09:00 PM
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Me Too had nothing to do with sexual assault. See, now, I don't buy that. I think men have always tried sexual things with women - and some went too far, and that women used to just expect that, and deal with it. Now, they've learned that it's a crime, that they're victims - and there's power and unity in victimhood. They can continue that by continuing to trash men, because, without men to blame and trash, they couldn't be victims.
/r/MensRights26/02/23 10:31 PM
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...you mean most OTHER people, not including us.
/r/MensRights26/02/23 10:27 PM
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Congratulations. You've completely bought the propaganda that Koch & company paid billions to get people like you to believe.
/r/MensRights26/02/23 10:26 PM
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Much of the power of feminism depends on focusing on women as victims and on men as victimizers. If they actually consider the opposite situation, that removes the power transfer they wish to effect. Thus, they find reasons why they don't need to do that.
/r/MensRights26/02/23 10:16 PM
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You learn the lesson about how easily a man can be deprived of property and rights when that's what a woman wants. You learn why women keep harping on how all women need to be believed, and why feminists look under every rock for every shred of discrimination against women, but don't have much interest in discrimination against men. If for nothing else, consider what that does for the power of women vs. men. You are experiencing that right now. Forewarned is forearmed. Keep this in mind, if you …
/r/MensRights26/02/23 10:13 PM
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I have a friend who told me his live-in GF suddenly started physically abusing him. What surprised me was that he finally reported her to the police AND THEY BELIEVED HIM. She moved out, went home to her folks, for a while. Now, they're back together. I do not know if that was the end of the abuse, though.
/r/MensRights26/02/23 09:58 PM
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..might be stretching. Do you think Hillary wouldn't choose her moment, that she'd do it in full view of half a dozen witnesses?
/r/MensRights26/02/23 09:55 PM
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A) We tend to think that men who are abused by women are simply not as manly. IOW, we blame the victim. B) We usually think that a man is better able to defend himself if he has to, or at least able to walk away. We mostly leave out the fact that any man who actually does defend himself, short of actually being in danger of being killed, is seen as a PoS. C) We have always protected women far more than we protect men. Most people love their mothers (mine's a crazy-ass bitch who has emotionally a…
/r/MensRights26/02/23 09:51 PM
1

Men have to learn to build satisfying social lives that don't center around having a woman for the majority of their lives. In these times, men are facing that for maybe the first time in history?
/r/MensRights26/02/23 09:39 PM
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much less if my relationship with that person is controlled by the government. Not everybody thinks the government is the enemy. BTW, the ruling class worked long and hard, and spent billions of dollars, to get people like you to think it is.
/r/MensRights26/02/23 09:35 PM
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May I never be in a relationship with anybody who would compare me to a used car. I'm a guy.
/r/MensRights26/02/23 09:33 PM
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AKA hypocrisy. I suspect that this is part of why so many women are surprised that men have an issues with gender discrimination of any kind. Every thing talks about women's issues, and treats MRAs as mass-shooters-in-training.
/r/MensRights26/02/23 09:24 PM
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They don't have to. If you hold out and refuse to propose to a GF, it's still very likely the case that you will be dumped for some other guy who WILL eventually propose.
/r/MensRights26/02/23 09:23 PM
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if all men just became gay or bisexual we could take back the power It might just be dinosaurs like me who think this, but that seems a whole hell of a lot easier to say, than to do, for millions of men.
/r/MensRights26/02/23 09:22 PM
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Women are raised to believe that the actual wedding is THEIR day. To me, it looks like a level of entitlement that's higher than I see anywhere else.
/r/MensRights26/02/23 09:14 PM
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A woman with nothing going for her suddenly becomes special, AND receives money from other people, when they have children. It's a built-in purpose in life, and a lot of people think single mothers are beyond-brave HEROINES.
/r/MensRights26/02/23 09:08 PM
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I have a prejudice about the actual marriage day. To so many women, it's THEIR day, to the extent that they tell other people what to wear, and to the extent that all the activities are about making them feel special and happy. So, whether or not women want to actually BE married, many really seem to love the event itself.
/r/MensRights26/02/23 09:04 PM
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They're literally saying that women specifically can't fall in love if they have too much sex. Doesn't that sound misogynistic to you? I would need more actual information about it. There may be very good reasons why women who've had lots of sex are more likely to get divorced. If it happens to be a fact, it doesn't matter how misogynistic it sounds.
/r/MensRights26/02/23 09:00 PM
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Women prefer rich men, but they'll take somebody who is respected, and makes more money than they, themselves, do. Hey, they know there aren't enough rich men for all the women who want one.
/r/MensRights26/02/23 08:41 PM
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True or not, men believe they'll have more access to a willing sex partner if they're married. The benefits for men can be social. Also, lots of men actually want children, which can be easier with a partner. So, no way men see no benefits to marriage. You think millions of men still propose for no perceived advantage, just because that's the way it's always been?
/r/MensRights26/02/23 08:39 PM
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Fuck that. We need to hang with other men, share interests, and have a good time. We need to find other things to do with our lives than chase women.
/r/MensRights24/02/23 05:41 PM
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90% of the problem is that our culture trashes men, women can get all the sex they want any time they want it, and women's social needs are different from men's. Women simply don't need men for the things that they've historically needed us for. Yet, we still look to women for all our social needs, the way men have for a very long time. Men need other ways to enjoy our lives than look for sex and human interaction with women If we want women, we just need to live long enough to come to be in dem…
/r/MensRights24/02/23 05:37 PM
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If sex is a duty for women, then it's not something that they're going to want to do a lot of. I fucking do not want any woman to have sex with me because it's her job. Women have always been far more selective about sex and about men in general. Women simply aren't the answer for men. Men need to look to other men for socializing. The world is changing, and it's not changing back any time soon.
/r/MensRights24/02/23 05:34 PM
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-I guarantee that there will be propaganda articles saying that marriage is good for men's helath etc. They will have propaganda saying that men need women. That's been out there for a long time. For my money, men just need to socialize around their interests more with other men. We actually need to exclude women from our activities a bit more, so that we don't sidetracked chasing sex, and so that we get better at socializing with other men. But, look at the reaction of women to men-only social …
/r/MensRights24/02/23 05:31 PM
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The point of the article is that men are lonely. Men still want to date women more than women want to date men. Women so often want men to meet other needs, while men focus so much on women for all their social needs. The Yahoo version of this article talked about how more women are lesbian than men are gay, which removes quite a number of women from the available pool. It also talked about how men don't meet women's emotional needs - the usual about how we don't share and make ourselves emotion…
/r/MensRights24/02/23 05:25 PM
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The thing is, those hobbies can be - and probably often are, shared with other guys who like the same thing. There are organizations formed around just about any hobby you can think of. Those are all opportunities to share, connect, and learn more about your hobby.
/r/MensRights24/02/23 05:19 PM
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In case it's not in here in another post, here's the Yahoo version of the same subject. It gave a little more detail and explanation. https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/most-young-men-single-most-110000268.html MGTOW. NOT because women are horrible or evil, but because, in these times, men need to build other connections than the traditional ones we had with women. Guys have shared interests with other guys, that we often don't have with women. So, we can connect about those things. Get together to…
/r/MensRights24/02/23 05:16 PM
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Liberals always gaslight, that’s how they roll. Liberal here. This is an example of you being motivated by your own prejudice to gaslight. But, your own bias prevents you from seeing that. See, now, we could agree about men's issues. We can't agree on liberal-conservative issues. But, in a a subreddit about men's issues, maybe we should focus on men's issues, instead of liberal-conservative issues.
/r/MensRights17/02/23 09:45 PM
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Women's in-group bias. The women in the group of friends a couple shares will usually ally with the wife. They will influence their spouses to do the same. And, I'm not sure of this one, so it's just a hypothesis: women are generally more likely to want to get rid of a man's male friends than a man it to get rid of a woman's female friends. IOW, women work to isolate men more than men work to isolate women. Couple that with the fact that men don't share their emotions as readily as women do, and…
/r/MensRights17/02/23 08:44 PM
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MGTOW - NOT because women are evil, but because men need to find/build satisfying lives with and without women.
/r/MensRights17/02/23 08:36 PM
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I have to wonder how many parents would object to their 20-year-old daughter dating di Caprio. Honestly, I'd have to guess it's a small minority.
/r/MensRights17/02/23 08:15 PM
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Yes, but money changes everything. How many women would choose Leonardo di Caprio, despite the fact that he's famous for dating younger women?
/r/MensRights17/02/23 08:12 PM
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Yes, but there are reasons why we don't just choose each other for our personalities. Those reasons are good for the species, in many ways. Only, now all those reasons are seen as shallow - basically a version of evil.
/r/MensRights17/02/23 08:10 PM
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Yes. Men must be shallow because most men aren't very interested in older women. Men are less interested in older women for the same reason that women are more interested in men who earn more. But, since everything about women's culture tells them women are wonderful, while men aren't, it has to be the fault of men that we're less interested in older women.
/r/MensRights17/02/23 08:06 PM
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The beauty of MGTOW is that it tells men to find satisfying lives that don't include women. Originally, that was about misogyny. But, the fact is, men make themselves miserable trying to be what women want us to be, and many still fail. Men need to find and build satisfying lives with or without women.
/r/MensRights17/02/23 08:01 PM
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So, all the top men are in demand, and most women have to do without men, or settle. Men want to date more, because we have lower standards. If we didn't, many of us would never find a woman. But, if we wonder why so many marriages end in divorce, with women initiating around 70% of them, maybe we see what happens when women settle.
/r/MensRights17/02/23 07:56 PM
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They'd rather not date than date the men available to them. The fact that most men will sleep with most women means that guys who have higher standards will have to compete with all the men who don't - or go without. We will always be at a disadvantage regarding women so long as they hold the monopoly on sexual power.
/r/MensRights17/02/23 07:49 PM
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So long as men desire women more than women desire men, women will hold many advantages. You can go on forever about how hypocritical some of that is, but people don't give up power until they're forced to.
/r/MensRights17/02/23 07:46 PM
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There is feminism, and then there's the general society, so to speak, of women. Just about all women share many beliefs with feminists, whether or not they would call themselves one. But, women's culture looks at everything from women's PoV. Thus, sharing the feminist position that women are victims, generally, with men being the victimizers, together with ignoring the general hypocrisy of many feminist beliefs is a mix of feminism and women's culture. The culture pretty much ignores anything th…
/r/MensRights17/02/23 07:44 PM
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Sorry, men do have lower standards. We have to, or most of us would never have sex. We would only see evidence of wide-spread higher standards among men if women were as sexually available to men as men are to women. I'm pretty sure you're going to twist that around to find agreement with you, but that's BS.
/r/MensRights17/02/23 07:39 PM
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Men are more willing to sleep with women than vice versa. One reads about women seeing most men as below average attractiveness - which, of course, is impossible. This ties in well with the saying: Women sleep with the people they want to sleep with, while men sleep with the people they can sleep with. So, because women are more selective about men, they're in the driver's seat. They can hold out for money. The biggest rationale for MGTOW isn't because women are evil; it's because most women don…
/r/MensRights17/02/23 07:31 PM
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...all good until you got to the part where you suspect. Then, it becomes pure prejudice.
/r/MensRights17/02/23 06:57 PM
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People will use whatever weapons are available, when it hits the fan. Thus, women use the law, other women, and men, when it suits their needs...and wants.
/r/MensRights17/02/23 06:50 PM
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Most people think that when the oppression grows too great, the right thing to do is fight back. They don't see it as two wrongs. The US lied through its teeth and used those lies to justify killing something like 500,000 Iraqis. No, you're right; fighting back against the world's biggest oppressor is simply another wrong.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 02:53 AM
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My point, which you choose not to understand, is that, while there may be an agreed upon definition of terrorism, the people in the Middle East very likely wouldn't see it the way you do. If you put yourself in their situation, you might think 9/11 was long overdue. Since we've never been in their situation, it's very, very easy for us to think nothing could justify that. We were horrified by 9/11, when we support a government that killed many, many times that number, along with overthrowing gov…
/r/MensRights18/10/22 01:08 AM
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Figure it out.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 02:28 PM
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That governments, including ours, kill more civilians than terrorists do. Maybe ESPECIALLY ours. There's a lot of evidence that we just ain't the good guys.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 02:04 PM
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When you state it like that, as though ALL such women are looking to manipulate men, it strikes me as pure prejudice. How much experience do you have with women asking for your deepest thoughts and emotions, and then going on to use them against you?
/r/MensRights15/10/22 08:04 PM
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How many civilians do you think were killed when the US invaded Iraq, based on the purposeful lie that they were attempting to build nuclear bombs?
/r/MensRights15/10/22 07:59 PM
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Lucky you. I've only had a few women in my life approach me. And, do you honestly think your experience is widespread among guys? Or are you virtue signaling?
/r/MensRights15/10/22 07:51 PM
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A related question is WHAT PERCENTAGE OF FEMINISTS ARE GOING TO HAVE EITHER A GIRL OR AN ABORTION? And, what percentage of feminists advocate that position? I HAVE seen women quoted to that effect. But, I don't know how common that is among avowed feminists.
/r/MensRights15/10/22 07:48 PM
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Ok. Once, a woman asked if she could sit right next to me. That was the only time a woman ever asked me for my permission to do something advancing closeness. I'd be surprised if that's not the case for most men. But, I'm pretty old. It could well be something different between older women vs. younger ones. NOTE: that doesn't disqualify my experience OR my speculation. Actually, it qualifies it, in a slightly difference sense. So, I don't need to get out of this subreddit. I don't have a negativ…
/r/MensRights15/10/22 07:43 PM
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Ok. What's your experience? Ever had a woman ask you anything at all while she was trying to seduce you? Ever had a woman try to seduce you? My point is, of course, that women do a lot less of the seducing and, when they, do, they don't ask if they can do this, now do this, now do this, etc. And, nobody expects them to. You might want to check out your own lawn while you're laughing your ass off.
/r/MensRights15/10/22 07:28 PM
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Still, I'm guessing that the beliefs of the average woman of today (US) would've appeared to be quite an extreme feminists in, say, 1962.
/r/MensRights15/10/22 07:15 PM
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Yeah, I don't want to have to do all the asking. I want to be asked, too. Only, nobody thinks women should have to ask men anything at all. Thus, it's rules for men that women can ignore. Fuck that.
/r/MensRights15/10/22 06:53 PM
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I agree with that premise. BUT, that means that taxpayers will have to pay for women to have children, if there's no father to get the money from. And, while they don't tell women they should've thought of the consequences before getting pregnant so much anymore, they still tell men that. So, I suspect it will be a very, very long time before US society tells men they don't have to pay for children they never wanted.
/r/MensRights15/10/22 06:29 PM
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SIDE ISSUE: When the term 'feminism' arises, we're talking in generalities. Thus, some feminists think A, others think B, others think C,D, E, etc. They don't all think the same things at the same times. What we're likely to do, as is the case with most distinct groups talking about another one, is pick the worst thing that other group - feminists - does, and then act like that's generally true for the whole group. And, we HATE that when other groups - feminists, for instance - do that with men.…
/r/MensRights15/10/22 06:25 PM
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Yeah. Ok. What we need is a man who did what Norah Vincent did, if you know of her. She very convincingly dressed and acted like a man for several months to find out a few things that woman couldn't know otherwise. Then, there was Black Like Me, back from when I was a kid, where a white guy got his skin darkened, and otherwise was able to convincingly pass as a black men, to see what it was really like. We need some guy who can pass as an attractive woman to report back to us on sexual harassmen…
/r/MensRights05/10/22 02:40 AM
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Well, you ARE somewhat misogynistic...but you have reason to be. If I run into a woman who really seems to not like men, I just avoid them. I'm retired, so it's easy for me. What concerns me, in imagination only, is the fact that it's much harder to kind of keep the interaction with women like that in a workplace to a civil minimum, because even that is now seen as a firing offense. I don't envy men who have to be out there, adapting to people looking to find serious fault under every rock. But,…
/r/MensRights05/10/22 02:25 AM
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No. They think misogyny is because A) men are raised to hate being seen as feminine, because men believe women are inferior to men. Therefore, men naturally despise women. That's a former feminist belief, that might still be a current one. B) men want to control women and now hate women because we can no longer do that. Again, that's a feminist belief.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 01:58 AM
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That really would depend on how long the stare was, wouldn't it? Staring is often received as aggression. Imagine if some other guy stared at you for too long. Now imagine how that might feel to a woman. There are reasons why women usually don't go out walking alone, in places where there are few other people around. And, if you have a lady in your life, you might not like it if some other guy stared at her for too long. I sometimes get down-voted for stating what I believe to be the truth. The …
/r/MensRights05/10/22 01:53 AM
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I'm thinking that she'd say it's true, and that she could understand.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 01:48 AM
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Lot of self-serving assumptions there. Some people hold their beliefs as though they're a certified fact. Such people don't like it when it's pointed out that they're merely beliefs.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 01:40 AM
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Ok, that doesn't prove that 90% of women haven't experienced sexual harassment. It just says that more men have experienced it than stats show us.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 01:39 AM
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BS. We don't know how many women are truly, offensively, sexually harassed. It's self-serving to assume it's a small group. The best thing is to avoid anything like sexual harassment, and encourage that in other men and boys. That said, I suspect that some women want to be part of the group, and that what they call sexual harassment isn't worth mentioning.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 01:37 AM
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Nope.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 01:33 AM
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That's like saying I can beat you to a pulp because bad things were done to me. Hurting anybody who hasn't hurt you isn't justified.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 01:33 AM
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Not to a woman like the one who wrote that.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 01:29 AM
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Yeah, I think most of it now is in reaction to the misandry of many women. You hear another group talk shit about your own for 50+ years, and it becomes very easy to do it in return. I don't think they get that. I really think most misandrist women really think most men think women should be controlled by men, while I've very, very seldom seen a man advocate that. It's like they're divorced from reality.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 01:28 AM
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The question is, how often does it happen, and how invasive/offensive is it? I wouldn't discount that it happens a lot, and that at least some of it is offensive. But, I have to assume most of it is harmless, and I now believe that almost any attempt at flirting or the like is now seen as harassment. Is it me, or do some women just never stop finding reasons why men aren't good people?
/r/MensRights05/10/22 01:24 AM
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That IS something I wish we could know. What exactly is the harassment that women say they've experienced, and how many have experienced it. I asked my wife once, and she said it hadn't a common or offensive thing in her life. Well, there's a database of one! I've harassed women. I've catcalled them with, "Looking good!" I told one woman once that I hoped it didn't offend her, but she was very pretty. She was an older woman and actually seemed very appreciative. Once I caught a woman's eye while…
/r/MensRights05/10/22 01:17 AM
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Agree about never hearing a man say that. But, I have to question how many women you've personally heard say they hate men. Mostly I read about a few feminists here and there justifying the hatred of men. But, I've never, ever heard any woman I know say they hate men.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 01:14 AM
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Nah. They think men want to control women in every way and get mad when we can't. You know, I've never, ever met a guy say that men should control women. If it were as widespread as some women think, guys wouldn't be keeping it to themselves.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 01:09 AM
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I JUST got kicked out the the left wing mens rights subreddit. Basically for saying pretty much the counterpart of this woman's belief, that most of my misogyny is in reaction to the misandry of many women that I've seen in the past 50 years. They thought I was advocating misogyny. BUT...related...given how many feminists think the way this woman does, I'm wondering if what many women see as misogyny is actually a projection of their own misandry. As in, people who hate everybody think everybody…
/r/MensRights05/10/22 01:07 AM
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Never said ALL misogyny is a reaction to misandry. But, as violence begets violence, and love begets love, misandry begets misogyny, and vice versa. That's obvious. It can be taken as an excuse, or an attempt at an excuse, and it can be simply taken as a fact. I think it's a fact. Most of the people here are heavily into moralizing about it. Ok. Ah. I'm talking about me. I never had any reason for major misogyny before feminism came along and spent the next 50 years telling us that men are evil.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/22 08:02 PM
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that’s the guy good non-toxic woman truly want. Is that to say that women decide what's masculine and what isn't? If so, isn't that giving a fuck about their expectations? ASIDE: I'm now thinking that a lot of guys aren't so clear on exactly what masculinity is and isn't, in these times. That makes sense, because it really looks like masculinity is a role that we all learned early on - a social construct? And, with society changing pretty quickly, the contruct is changing, too. And, THAT makes m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/22 07:53 PM
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Yeah, I'm more about fighting back. Fuck being better than that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/22 07:26 PM
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I'm talking about me, there. What pisses me off about women is the things they say about men, many of which seem unfair to me. Thus, I suspect that many men get riled up by how many women seem to think about men. And, that comes off as misogyny, or actually IS misogyny, that might not exist if women didn't focus on what's bad about men and on what's good about women, often ignoring the converse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/22 07:17 PM
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I guess if I have to say it was a joke, it wasn't a very good one. But, NOT switching accounts was part of it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/22 07:07 PM
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Thank you for that. But...is there any reason that men might not feel ashamed for being victimized by a woman, along with the fact that nobody would believe them, or even care if it's true? They don't seem mutually exclusive. I don't see the shame about being victimized by a woman as saying that men feel they are better than women, and that it's pure misogyny to feel that. Like, a REAL man would never allow himself to be victimized by a woman. I think the shame might be about it being an attack …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/22 10:12 PM
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Like that. That's my thinking too. What results from that, I believe, is that men feel a lot more threatened about not being sufficiently masculine than women do about not being sufficiently feminine, because women are far less often made to feel like they aren't feminine enough. Could that be the cause of the historical violent reaction that men have had towards gay men? Or, especially among men who were afraid of whatever LESS THAN REAL MAN traits and thoughts they might have? (For you younger…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/22 09:57 PM
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Cognitive bias - another name for the same phenomenon, comes right to mind.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/22 09:46 PM
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Yes! Yes! BRILLIANT idea!! Thought I'd maybe get you all off on the right foot.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/22 09:34 PM
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Nix on the flossing. I suspect it makes women feel sexier, and gets them the kind of attention they want.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/22 07:49 PM
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Far as I can see, the problem has always been the ruling class that runs the world for their own benefit. Jesus said something like, the poor you will always have with you. The real problem is, the rich, we will always have with us.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/22 03:04 PM
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Ranked choice voting, where, if the Green Party gets, say,12% of the vote, they get 12% of the legislative seats. But, the people who own and run this country will never allow that. Face it, they've got us locked up tighter than a drum, and the only way to change that is illegal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/22 12:57 AM
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Thanks for clarification. Thinking about it, older women are likely lonelier that younger ones because spouses and friends have started to die off.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/22 12:43 AM
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Well, I have to wonder about more in-group bias among women, along with how often I see women going out together, without partners/husbands, even when they have them. In that study, the only women who felt more isolation were older women - when a lot more of the men have simply DIED OFF.. Again, the real victims of male deaths are women. It looks to me like women are either conditioned to be, or just naturally are, more social. I mean, look at the higher danger that we worry about for lone women…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 09:58 PM
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With little actual knowledge about them, it makes me think fondly of the pubs in English and other European countries. Places to go just to drink, hang out, and talk to people - all except the part where it encourages a lot of drinking.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 09:54 PM
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Sounds like a clone of Hillary, again. If we ain't burdening them, we're ignoring them, or opening up too little. There's a pattern, there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 09:51 PM
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I have to think that this will be treated as an isolated problem for males, and basically, one that we cause for ourselves. Not many people, and next-to-no feminists, will include this in a larger pattern that shows us how much better females are treated in almost every way, and at every stage of their lives.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 09:48 PM
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At a guess, 10 or 11, depending on their size.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 09:41 PM
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Equal rights and responsibilities are still a very long way off, and especially when they don't favor women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 09:40 PM
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I own that book, and have read only part of it. One part struck me as her inserting her values over fact. She describes women at the strip clubs having shaved genitalia. She ascribes that to the idea that men prefer doll-like women that meet their unrealistic fantasies, and not real women. Then, she had things to say about how men don't want woman to have any genital ordor, which she condemned as men not wanting women to be as they naturally are. I thought it was more because men want to actuall…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 09:30 PM
1

Well, consider the pussy-grabbing source.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 05:22 PM
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That's the way many who aren't on the right see it, but that's not what is presented to those young men. What is presented is a way to change what they've been encouraged to see as wrong, and, actually, some of what they KNOW is wrong - the overall way men are valued in our society, now, despite all we hear about the evils of the patriarchy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 05:20 PM
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To me, it's the emotional support - although it seems odd to say that about men!, that they provide for young men. They're seen as decent people, who are easily treated as suspicious, by much of society.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 05:18 PM
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Right. But, you obviously don't consider it UNfair that all men need to avoid interacting with children unless supervised by others, with at least ONE woman among those others. Fact is, we're always treated like potential criminals because of the actions of a minority of men. And, while I can't readily produce it, there's evidence that a lot of sexual abuse by women goes under the radar, simply because we don't think of women that way. Consider how disturbing it would be if it were the case that…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 05:07 PM
2

I remember, long ago, being high as a kite at a local baseball game my friend was playing in. I wound up playing with a girl, maybe 7-8 years old. I was having fun with her, NOT touching her at all, with no ill intent towards her of any kind. This was in full view of the players and spectators. Because I was high, I kind of forgot that I wasn't supposed to play with women below the age of 18, even though that's not codified into law. (Actually, it's surprising that it's not codified.) Anyway, af…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 05:03 PM
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By maintaining a set of social rules that favor the socially dominant class. That keeps women continuing to want to attend those institutions, and women are their biggest customers. You also have to consider the views and influence of the Women's Studies programs and of most of the women faculty. They're either outright feminist, or highly influenced by feminist views and values.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 04:56 PM
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Speculation isn't as useful as statistical evidence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 04:54 PM
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...it's simply the lesser of the two evils. These days, it's, overall, FAR less evil. But, they both serve their ruling class and corporate masters far more than they serve the rest of us.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 04:54 PM
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Yes, you can find instances of people on the left realizing that the way men have been seen for many decades, now, isn't accurate. The problem is, they are relatively rare.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 04:52 PM
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Cognitive bias isn't something that only the people who oppose us are guilty of. It's simply much easier to see when they do it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 04:51 PM
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I'll always choose Democrats over Republicans, despite the fact that they're both beholden to their ruling class and corporate campaign donors. And, now the Republicans have gone completely off the rails in all the ways most civilized people deplore. But, continuing to value and advantage women over men is NOT one of the things I favor about Democrats. And, Biden has been playing up to women for votes for his whole career.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 04:47 PM
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The answer is complicated. Women are part and parcel of the way we all interact in society, and help form motivations for men, just as men do for women. Women want alpha males. Many of them don't have that much concern about how and where men become alphas, especially in regard to how they acquire the money to spend on women. We are social animals who would be COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BEINGS had we not spent a great deal of time, especially when young, around other people. And, women have quite a lo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 04:32 PM
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That would make me think that there's more sleeping around there, and more people who don't want that known - a pure, perhaps prejudicial speculation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/22 01:28 PM
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LYRICS: "The Man" I would be complex, I would be cool They'd say I played the field before I found someone to commit to And that would be okay for me to do Every conquest I had made would make me more of a boss to you I'd be a fearless leader I'd be an alpha type When everyone believes ya What's that like? I'm so sick of running as fast as I can Wondering if I'd get there quicker if I was a man And I'm so sick of them coming at me again 'Cause if I was a man, then I'd be the man I'd be the man I…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 11:16 PM
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You are finding reasons to believe what you like to believe, and seemingly based on your experience with ONE person.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 10:11 PM
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I do believe that a good deal more women are psychologists/therapists than men these days. My psychologist friend tells me that most therapists have their own issues, which is why they get into the profession in the first place.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 09:35 PM
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Actually, I've seen, quite a while back, feminists arguing that all men should be legally bound to submit DNA samples, because that would make it possible to identify rapists. I don't believe there was any interest in also forcing all women to submit DNA samples for the purpose of also being able to identify female criminals. Some feminists are quite hypocritical.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 09:32 PM
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I believe a law was passed against paternity testing in France. I believe the argument was that it would be too disruptive and harmful to society as a whole.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 09:26 PM
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Last I saw, guys are twice as likely to be assaulted as women are. It's just that our culture doesn't much care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 09:22 PM
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P < .05 means the chance of it being random chance is 1 out of 20 or less. So, a p value of 0.1 would mean it could happen by random chance 1 in ten times, or less. P is pretty obviously for probability. The agreed upon level of acceptance is usually .05.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 09:20 PM
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For over 50 years, feminists and many, many women who wouldn't call themselves feminists have been looking under every rock to find instances of sexism against women and misogyny. That makes it possible for them to ignore studies like this, because, by now, everybody knows that women have life hard, and men have all possible privileges. IF that study gets any headlines, I will be surprised. If the story has any legs at all, I will be absolutely shocked. And, there's absolutely no chance that any…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 09:15 PM
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You're exactly right. But, our society is conditioned to see women as victims, and men as victimizers. Somehow, that's not considered a privilege.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 09:09 PM
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Only a MALE fool looks to online apps for dating.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/22 10:31 PM
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So, call it something else. Guys need to find much more of their happiness without women, just as women are doing without men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/22 10:29 PM
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We're being judged by the group that has most definitely gained the upper hand, in many ways, in our society. OF COURSE they judge us by their standards and find us lacking. When men did that, it was rightly called sexism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/22 06:55 PM
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The linked article pretty much proves that women aren't choosing men via dating apps for their emotional sensitivity; they're choosing good-looking men they want to fuck - and, as we keep learning, most women simply aren't attracted to most men, while most men ARE attracted to most women. MGTOW - NOT because women are evil, but because women and men don't match so well in our society anymore, and men need to find other satisfactions than what they hope they'll find with women. Of interest to a l…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/22 06:51 PM
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I'm not an overly clean guy. I'm not a complete slob, but I can live with more dust and grime than my wife. And, she gets judged more for dirt than I do, usually by other women. So, I suspect that many women clean more because they either like things cleaner, or are conditioned to want them cleaner. Thus, some of that extra housework is simply to satisfy her. That doesn't make it necessary.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/22 06:32 PM
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...that all men, who hold ALL available privileges, are responsible for. (NOT my position. This is the position of many of those who see patriarchy as the paramount source of evil.)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/22 06:27 PM
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Well, no, THEY don't need a men's rights movement. They don't want any attention going to men's rights, because it shows so many of them and the rest of our society what hypcrites they are.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/22 06:25 PM
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Men make more when they work longer hours, or work in higher-paying fields with few women, often because women aren't satisfied in those fields. They tell us that we get to have it both ways - a career and a family. They leave out the fact that, historically, men have spent a lot longer away from the family than women have. We don't get to have it both ways; we get to have it the way women want us to have it. If they want to stay at home, they want men to go out and earn more money. If they want…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/22 08:07 PM
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Your chances of changing her thinking are minimal. Learn from her. See how the opposition thinks. See where it supports what you know and believe, and where it doesn't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/22 09:06 PM
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Do we protect women more than men? There's part of your answer.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/22 09:03 PM
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In response to title: ...not directly, no.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/22 09:02 PM
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I read part of that article once before. This time, seeing just the title, it occurred to me that powerless men are seen by everybody as lesser men. A woman can be powerless and still be considered a complete and healthy woman. A powerless man is esteemed by nobody. -An observation on why a male would be much more motivated to seek power in some form. The alternate choice is social oblivion.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/22 09:00 PM
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The obvious: this meme makes it easy to forget the millions of women who are pro-life, and/or vote for the G.O.P. That allows them to blame the pro-life movement exclusively on men, their favored target. It also allows them to ignore the millions who think killing a fetus is murder. That might make them seem humanitarian, instead of purely evil people who want to control women. It enables the pro-choice people to see themselves as morally superior, and the pro-life side as being motivated by mis…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/22 08:47 PM
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I don't think women are objectified; I think they're sexualized, and that they often encourage that. Celebrities sell sex because it furthers their careers, and attractive women know they can use their bodies and sexuality to bring them things they want. And, it gives women power in individual relations with men. They have lots of reasons to want their sexuality noticed and enhanced. But, MeToo is the other side of that. Women want men to be the initiators of relations, but only the men they fin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/22 08:29 PM
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Answer: because it makes it a lot easier to discount anything we have to say. It makes us more wary of saying anything not currently seen as politically correct, it makes it easier for women to continue to hold viewpoints that are completely sexist, and it makes people less willing to listen to a person or group already labeled as, in so many words, evil.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/22 08:17 PM
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So long as it favors women, most women don't give a damn about anything where men are at a disadvantage. That's part of that greater in-group bias on the part of women. Couple that with the cognitive bias most people exhibit, and it's quite a potent combination.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/22 08:05 PM
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"...we definitely depend less on social cues to get by" Nah. We just depend on different social cues. One of which tells us that we're supposed to depend less on social cues to get by.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/22 08:00 PM
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...because, in just about every other area, I agree much more with leftist positions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/22 07:42 PM
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Blaming men makes sense for the meme in our society that sees men as what's wrong with the world, while portraying women as victims. And, it draws more members to feminist circles. Blaming other women is a deterrent for those patterns of thinking. Most of the women who hear it being blamed on men don't question it. It fits what they've been told forever, and it would make most women very unpopular with other women to point out the injustice of it. It's much easier to just go along.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/22 07:40 PM
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It's been politically correct to find things wrong with men, in general, while finding things right and wonderful about women, for about the last 50 years. The need and desire to go along with the crowd is incredibly strong in people. Thus, talking about the sacrifices of men would say that the trend of finding, almost exclusively, bad things about men would fly in the face of that. It would be politically incorrect. Plus, war is seen as bad, until women need protecting.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/22 07:28 PM
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Hatred causes hatred. I'm a lot more misogynistic than I would be if feminism hadn't promulgated misandry for the past 50+ years. I think feminism was necessary, and I'm glad we've all started to question sex roles. And, it was probably inescapable that it was going to include misandry. That doesn' make me love the people who think I'm the single worst thing on this Earth.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/22 09:48 PM
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I'm thinking that the people who say that don't care at all that it's harmful, so long as most of the harm is for men. The people who don't say that and don't think it, don't need to be told that it's harmful. Thus the people who most need to hear it are the least likely to let it guide their behavior. So, we're hoping that the people who don't need to hear it will discourage those who do, and indirectly quash such overt and aggressive instances of misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/22 09:42 PM
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When the main narrative is that men hold all the privileges that exist, then it can only be that something is wrong with men in general that more males commit suicide. It's part of toxic masculinity. Otherwise, the original narrative must be incorrect or incomplete. That would negate feminism, so the best thing to do is ignore inconvenient facts, or keep coming back to toxic masculinity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/22 09:28 PM
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We aren't ready for it as a culture. We still think women should be protected. It doesn't matter at all that that's sexist and a privilege; feminists have too much clout to let it happen, women have too much clout to let it happen, and too many men believe women should have that privilege, and that an important part of being a man is protecting women and children. I don't expect that to get any votes; I just think it's the cultural climate at this time, and that I don't care who doesn't want to …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/22 09:19 PM
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Tying pro-abortion activism with feminism, with men cast as the enemy in both, is a natural, in terms of building support. Having a clear enemy is more effective than simply advocating for a cause. It's also a way of demonizing the opposition; "they want to control women" yields more support than, "they actually think fetuses are people and should have the right to live."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/22 09:07 PM
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That's exactly the kind of power women have in our culture now - they've had it both ways for quite a while, and it doesn't look like that's going away any time soon.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/22 08:34 PM
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Odd. If one simply does the usual replacement of masculine terms by feminine ones, it becomes immediately apparent. Take all the worst things about women and call them toxic femininity - and watch all women immediately start screaming. The fact that it has taken gender experts this long is just more of an indication of which sex controls the gender dialogue.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/22 08:28 PM
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If there were no women, there would be no gender issues. Just as, if there were no men, there would be none. Gender issues are about inequality between the genders. There have to be at least 2 genders for there to be inequality. The fact that one gender is treated less fairly depends on the fact that the other gender is privileged. As somebody stated in a post on here, the fact that men's issues are much more often overlooked is, itself, the single biggest men's issue. I'm thinking that quite of…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/22 09:44 PM
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It doesn't matter who is causing the problems that men face. They are still problems, and men are still victimized by them. But, the fact is, we all create each other. Women quite often benefit from the way men victimize other men, and are famous for choosing the victimizer - the alpha male, over the victim. Then, there's the fact that a lot of the issues men face are caused by the privileged treatment that women have always received, and by the notion that men need to be victimized to keep wome…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/22 09:38 PM
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" I definitely think he should have helped, but was it his obligation to help? " What makes it an obligation other than most other people thinking he should've helped? It seems to me that that's a situation where one involves the cops. Keep that in mind, next time you want to think cops do nothing but oppress people. I don't think it's his obligation. If men are obliged to endanger themselves for others, then we deserve commensurate privileges, instead of the general hatred that so many women ha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/22 09:07 PM
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...except that everybody is supposed to be concerned about women's issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/22 08:56 PM
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Your problem is that you really want to change her thinking. Can you say "cognitive bias?" You ain't changing her thinking.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/22 08:29 PM
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There's an old quote, and I don't know who it's by. This is a paraphrase of that. I said nothing when they came for the socialists, because I'm not a socialist. I said nothing when they came for the homosexuals, because I'm not a homosexual. I said nothing when they came for the blacks, because I'm not black. I said nothing when they came for the war resisters, because I'm not a war resisters...I said nothing when they came for me, because there was nobody else left.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/22 01:42 AM
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I'm glad I don't know your fiancee.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/22 05:41 AM
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Didn't read all that. My, obvious theory: Feminists start with the basic belief that women have social disadvantages because they are women, and that men have advantages because they are men. So, they're not primarily interested in male issues. Further, raising male issues prevents women's issues from standing out so much. Most feminists want women's issues to stand out as much as possible.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/22 05:32 AM
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It's amazing that you have to ask.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/22 05:26 AM
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It doesn't matter who the killer is. The problem is that we only care about female victims, whoEVER the killer is. We don't care about protecting male victims, simply because they are male.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/22 05:24 AM
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Note the basic message that men are bad and women victims. This is what we're up against.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/22 05:20 AM
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Not at all. Just frequenting politically incorrect subreddits will get you kicked out of the ones that consider themselves politically correct.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/22 05:18 AM
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You know that thing about how you know who holds power by the fact that you can't criticize them? This is an example of the repercussions of criticizing the wrong people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/22 05:17 AM
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What's really disgusting is people who will judge a whole country by what some of the people who live there do. Fuck you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/22 05:15 AM
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When you convince people that men are basically bad, and women basically good, nobody much cares when some male is disfigured. Even babies. And if that harm to males helps women, why, so much the better!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/22 05:13 AM
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Didn't read all that. But, OF COURSE, you're not the only one. But, we're experiencing the results of telling the same lie, not 1,000 times, but many millions of times. At this point, it's so widely accepted that most people would seriously doubt tha men could possibly face more sexism than women do. That's what rigid roles are - sexism. We're bad if we don't conform.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/22 05:09 AM
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I didn't read all that. But, yes, it's sexist because it's an expectation placed on men, and not on women. And, men are expected to provide 3 months' salary to buy a ring, while women are expected to provide only themselves. But, it's tradition, so most women allow themselves to overlook how sexist it is, often using the excuse that men have everything better, so women should get something.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/22 04:58 AM
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So long as feminists look under every rock for evidence of discrimination against women, and almost totally ignore discrimination against men - except to say it's caused by men's toxic masculinity, women can claim that anything that makes things better for women is justified, because men are infinitely more privileged.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/22 04:39 AM
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As OP stated, some objectification is necessary and natural. And, most women will support any other woman who is using her sexual attractiveness to get what she wants. So, it's ok if women use their sexuality, but not ok for men to be attracted to women, because that's all about objectification. Thus strippers are fine, but the men who enjoy them aren't. Even though it's fine for women to enjoy male strippers. Hypocrisy. IOW, it's mostly a way for women, and especially feminists, to say that men…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/22 04:36 AM
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The fact that men tend not to cry is blamed on men, under the umbrella of toxic masculinity. It's the fault of men. It's the fault of men, for instance, that it's mostly mothers who teach their sons that boys don't cry. Otherwise, women would bear some responsibility. How well do you think that will play to women? I have a one-word answer for you: INCEL!!! Which makes me think that one of the perks of women's sexual power is the ability to influence men, who would fear being cast as a sexual los…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/22 09:51 PM
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I've read that babies in orphanages don't cry much, because nothing happens when they do. That's the way it is for men and boys. For feminists, and women in general - how many women don't believe the basic idea that men are privileged and women discriminated against? it has to be all the fault of men. Sometimes, they'll say "patriarchy" instead, as though that's not a way of blaming everything on men, without directly saying so. Otherwise, women would hold some responsibility for the way the wor…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/22 09:33 PM
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I'm always wondering if a few men at the top hold all the power, wealth, and the attention of the great majority of women, while the rest of us have very little, or none, of that. Before modern civilization, when people lived in small hunter/gatherer groups, something like 40% of men reproduced, while something like 80% of women did. Exactly how powerful were the other 60% of men? Exactly how powerful are the vast majority of men in the patriarchy?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/22 08:58 PM
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Men are the one group that it's still politically correct to denounce as a group.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/22 08:50 PM
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Imagine if he'd said anything at all about male victims of sexism, and women perpetrators. What do you think that would do to his chances of receiving votes from women? And, he may also believe that only women have any issues concerning sexism. 50 years of feminism will do that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/22 08:48 PM
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That's an indication of the political/social power of women vs. that of men. In the arena of gender roles, women hold virtually all the power. That's why we have internalized misogyny vs. toxic masculinity - they're both, basically, the fault of men. Otherwise, women would hold a share of the responsibility for the way the world is, instead of blaming it entirely on men. You won't see feminists, or most women, allowing that to stand, even in a partial way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/22 08:45 PM
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I don't much care about their perspective, because they have innumerable supporters, and they're getting most of what they want. I remember that most girls were expected to become mothers and housewives, when I was young. I think feminism was necessary in that it presented women with a world of choices that they didn't have before that. But, I tend towards misogyny in a group way - I mostly like individual women - simply because women, as a group, have been trashing men for most of my life. That…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/22 08:34 PM
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Great logic. You and the logicians can continue to discuss it. For me, homeless men have virtually NO chance at being with a woman. They still desire women. Endless rejection, to the point that homeless men probably seldom approach any woman, in the first place. Resentment/frustration builds. Catcalling is the one avenue of expressing that resentment that is also somewhat sexual. And, really, what do they have to lose? Further: I suspect it's akin to little boys throwing sticks at girls they lik…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/22 08:24 PM
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Didn't read all that. Yes, it's sexist in the sense that it's almost exclusively men who are required to buy a ring and propose. The whole notion that men must court women, including paying for most of their mutual entertainment is also sexist. And, neither one of those sexist expectations will be leaving us any time soon.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/22 08:16 PM
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Didn't read the long article; ignore this. Women, IMHO, have much more political power than men do, in the sense that our whole society thinks men are privileged, and therefore need no consideration whatsoever. Thus, women will remain free to get abortions in enough states to make it workable, at the same time that they'll continue to be able to force men to pay child support for a child that only the woman wants. It will continue to be her choice exclusively, with men being legally forced to ab…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/22 08:09 PM
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It's values like this that are a major part of why women don't want actual equality. They're privileged in many ways, with the political power to deny and obscure that fact. That's usually justified, in the minds of many, by the fact that most CEOs are male, and all of our presidents have been. They like to maintain that, because a very small minority of men hold major power, that all men do, by proxy. Some men agree with them. Us poorer ones tend not to. That said, what I like about feminism is…
/r/MensRights22/11/21 06:25 PM
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Agree. It's about women being more desirable than men, sexually. They're the selective ones; we're the ones pushed into the supplicating. Thus, male bodies are much more often repulsive to women than women's are to men and, in these times, making women comfortable is seen as highly necessary, while making men comfortable isn't. And, it's the kind of thing that would be laughed at and/or denied by most women. And, most women are pretty feminist, because our (US) culture is pretty feminist. Many w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/21 10:32 PM
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It's not that nobody seems to care; It's that, in reality, most of society actually doesn't care. We've all learned that women are oppressed in every way possible, and that men are the oppressors. Nobody cares what happens to the bad guys.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/21 10:13 PM
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Men are valued for courage. Women, not so much. So, men who show fear are much more likely to be disapproved of by both men and women, than women are. Nope, don't have a citation. But, living with other people tells me this is true. Thus, while everybody feels fear, men are highly encouraged to act as though they don't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/21 10:10 PM
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The biggest difference is right wing vs. left wing. And, right wing guys more often want gender roles to go back to where they were before feminism. Left wing guys accept feminism, but keep noticing that feminists quite often want more power for women than they want equality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/21 09:51 PM
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The don't support equal custody because, generally, women want custody. They support women, so they oppose men. It really is that simple. They'll present other justifications, but that's what it really comes down to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/21 09:47 PM
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Notice, also, how often the word, "dick" is used to describe men, while calling a woman a cunt is the height of misogyny.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/21 09:45 PM
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Right. If some guy beats the shit out of me, that's ok, because it's another guy. I'm supposed to be able to defend myself, and there's something very wrong with me, if I can't. So, guys being assaulted is nothing to worry, or even think, about.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/21 01:18 AM
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The amazing thing is the fact that women can hit, and expect to not be hit back. Hitting back is highly likely to get a man arrested. HOW IS THAT NOT RECOGNIZED AS PRIVILEGE???!!! So, if TWO women attack, is it ok to hit back? NO? How about three? Four? When, exactly, is it ok for a man to hit back, if ever?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/21 01:11 AM
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They can take our rights but they will never take our men's sheds!!!!!! Double asterisks preceding and ending.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/21 01:07 AM
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The expectations of others, and of ourselves, tend to limit us. It seems like most of us are very good at finding fault with others, and with other tribes. They should all be like me!
/r/MensRights29/04/21 12:23 AM
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That may be true of some MRAs. Others, like myself, are glad that there are women who are interested, just as some women seem pleased about men who support their view of gender relations.
/r/MensRights28/04/21 06:16 PM
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It should tell you quite a lot that you can't find much about men's rights on, maybe, the most powerful, most used search engine in the world.
/r/MensRights28/04/21 06:13 PM
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You're an asshole looking for an argument. Keep looking. Assholes are very useful, in that, after a while, they teach us that, most of the time, the best way to handle them is to completely ignore them. They're just not worth any time at all. Thanks for the service rendered.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/21 05:58 AM
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So, are we also going to hold all women responsible for changing toxic female behavior? And, sorry, I get to decide what I'll say to whom, and when, and what I'll do, where and when. Nobody gets to give me orders, and especially when they don't want to take the same sort of orders themselves. Last word: why would any of us let this poster, or any body else, tell us what our responsibility as men is?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/21 05:04 AM
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Being a real man is about competition. A real man wins. A real man is attractive to women. Most men aren't attractive to women. When you look at the alternative to being seen as a real man, you begin to understand why men want to be real men. It's a social construct, and it's not just men who create social constructs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/21 04:56 AM
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Does that mean that sexual assault by women against other women isn't a crime?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/21 04:34 AM
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This, coupled with the basic fact that most women have little use for most men drives me MGTOW-ward. They don't much like us, they're seldom attracted to us? Stay away. Expect little from women, interact minimally with women. Do things with groups, and with other guys. If somebody shows interest, be very, very careful.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/21 03:38 PM
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Well, it's certainly true that the violence that people care about is violence against women. WHAT I LOVE is that women, in particular, but the majority of us, really don't give a single shit about male victims of violence. Male victims, as men, are pretty much invisible. And, most people think that's the way it should be, after 50 years of being told women are wonderful, and men are trash.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/21 03:27 PM
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You're putting words in my mouth. Yes, I'm fine with Kamela Harris being the new VP. VPs have mostly been picked for political purposes, and I'll bet this is the first one you've objected to. Fuck that.
/r/MensRights07/12/20 10:34 PM
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Not liking something doesn't make it a violation of human rights. The favoritism that women enjoy is the other side of being catcalled. If you didn't have one, you wouldn't have the other. You expect the one, but think the other should be outlawed. And, the fact is, the men who catcall women seldom do it in the company of other men, because nobody likes it. But, it's not my job to police other men, any more than it's your job to police women to ensure that they treat men fairly.
/r/MensRights06/12/20 12:41 AM
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By that reasoning, anybody who says anything that another person dislikes is violating someone's rights.
/r/MensRights06/12/20 12:37 AM
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Democrats have issues. Republicans voted for a man who has told more lies than anybody that anyone has ever heard of. And, they tell us that's fine, because all politicians lie. Republicans voted for a man who has made it job one to divide Americans for his own benefit. It allows him to use his cult of followers to bend other Republicans to his will. It allows him to attempt to overthrow democracy, AND be supported by millions of people while he does it. When Barr told us that the level of votin…
/r/MensRights06/12/20 12:29 AM
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Ignoring Trump's continuing assault on democracy is the illness. And HUGELY more important than some Congresswoman being wrong about Democrats losing the House majority.
/r/MensRights06/12/20 12:20 AM
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Yes, it's very odd that Republicans have held onto their Senate majority AND made gains in the House, while so much election fraud has gone on. One would think that, with Trump being a victim of Democrat fraud, that ALL the Republicans would've been, also. Trump's cult conveniently ignores this fact. Rational, they aren't.
/r/MensRights06/12/20 12:19 AM
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Yes, this is probably true. It's a lot like picking a VP from a region of the country to get support from that region. It happens all the time. But, you didn't complain about that. Joe Biden is definitely NOT the most qualified man in America, nor is Harris the most qualified woman. We don't elect the most qualified person, as Trump continues to make abundantly clear. We elect the person whose propaganda most appeals to the largest number of us. So, picking out this instance of an unfair advanta…
/r/MensRights06/12/20 12:10 AM
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Be very, very ready to start looking for a new job. The law really doesn't treat men and women as equals. Neither does public opinion. If she's making moves on you, then there can be serious backlash if you don't respond as she wishes. If she's not, and you respond in any kind of amorous way, you will be seen as the culprit.
/r/MensRights05/12/20 11:55 PM
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In some places?! No, in almost all places. This isn't an area where any kind of equality is in play. Men are seen as the perpetrator and arrested, even when they are the victim. There used to be a statistic - I don't know if it's still true, that men in that situation are 3 times as likely to be arrested as the abusing woman.
/r/MensRights05/12/20 11:45 PM
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If he responds, the police will believe her, and he'll be arrested. Who's the idiot for not seeing the reality of that?
/r/MensRights05/12/20 11:42 PM
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ANSWER: you can't get support for being a victim, because you're a man. STOP LOOKING FOR SUPPORT AND GTFO!!! What you're experiencing is the part of sexism that nobody much cares about.
/r/MensRights05/12/20 11:41 PM
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Nothing. I just remind people that women are behind most of the world's losers, too. So, it's not the women who are the difference.
/r/MensRights05/12/20 11:32 PM
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Does anybody have information about women mentoring men? Or is that another one-way street?
/r/MensRights05/12/20 11:23 PM
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One hears much about woman to woman mentorship, and about man to woman mentorship. In fact, in the MeToo era, women are complaining that men are refusing to open themselves up to claims and lawsuits by avoiding mentoring women. So, I have to wonder about how often women mentor men. If women can mentor other women, that demonstrates that they are often in superior positions. But, I'd have to guess that women save their support for other women, all the while they demand support from men. Having ne…
/r/MensRights05/12/20 11:09 PM
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Well, while they don't like it, groping a woman doesn't put her in physical agony. But, as the people in this sub reddit know full well, our culture has taken its woman first mentality and kicked it into overdrive for about the last 50 years.
/r/MensRights10/10/20 07:18 PM
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It sets him up to support her for life when she gets tired of him and files for divorce.
/r/MensRights10/10/20 07:14 PM
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A lot of MGTOW posts are incredibly misogynistic. BUT, at the same time, a lot of what they have to say about women is worth men taking the time to pay heed to. ANOTHER REASON FOR MGTOW: So many women have no use for men at all. Or, they have little respect for men, along with demands that they, themselves, would view as completely self-serving, were men to make those demands on women. So, MGTOW is also about men finding ways to maximize and enjoy their own lives without requiring a woman's time…
/r/MensRights10/10/20 07:10 PM
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That's funny, given all the things now called rape, that don't involve PIV.
/r/MensRights10/10/20 07:01 PM
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A common theme. One reads, from time to time, about pro-female bias. Fact is, people don't much care about male victims of any kind, or about males in general, at the level that women are cared for and about. Don't expect that to change, because nobody cares about gender bias that harms men, either.
/r/MensRights10/10/20 06:58 PM
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It wouldn't surprise me to see it get over turned at the federal level. That would allow states to pass anti-abortion laws. But, many states will keep abortion legal, I believe.
/r/MensRights10/10/20 06:46 PM
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Thanks for that...but, there's no way I'd vote for the Orange, lying, divisive, anti-climate, PRO-Covid 19, pro-oligarchy POS! I'm more than a 1 issue voter.
/r/MensRights10/10/20 06:44 PM
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NOT A LEGAL EXPERT. But, far as I know, there are no legal repercussions whatsoever, anywhere in the US, for a woman who sabotages a man's condoms in order to become pregnant by him.
/r/MensRights10/10/20 06:21 PM
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I keep seeing people on the right call any efforts for social change "cultural Marxism." Far as I can see, after decades of the Cold War, Americans are very concerned about anything Marxist or communist. Thus, the Right attempts to call anything it doesn't like communism or Marxism. It's like how everybody on the left is now a pedophile, because people think pedophiles are the lowest form of life. It's basically propaganda, having nothing to do with reality.
/r/MensRights13/08/20 03:16 PM
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It's not a matter of "should." It's the simple fact that men will lose out in the competition vs. other men for women, if they don't. Like, women who don't try to look pretty/sexy lose out to women who do.
/r/MensRights12/08/20 07:34 PM
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The fact that this is an all-purpose go-to defence/offence for many women pretty much demonstrates that women are quite ready to lie about rape. They know it, but support each other in maintaining that it happens so seldom that it can be discounted. That's power for women, on both counts.
/r/MensRights12/08/20 07:30 PM
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...and, do they want to correct the system that makes 60% of college students female, which enables women to earn more than men? We already know the answer to that one.
/r/MensRights12/08/20 07:15 PM
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To me, the main issue with circumcision is that they do it to babies without their consent. As far as I know, it's based on religion. That, all by itself, should be a crime. Religion wouldn't be an adequate justification for inflicting pain and suffering on any group without the consent of its members in any other case. Yes, there's the hypocrisy aspect of MGM vs. FGM. The fact that MGM is so much more widespread balances out the fact that FGM is sometimes more extensive. But, I don't think that…
/r/MensRights12/08/20 07:13 PM
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Propaganda is used by most groups, in one form or another. You're implying that feminism "gets it" from Marxism, and tying feminism to Marxism, as a way of condemning feminists. By that reasoning, anybody who does something that a Marxist has done is him/herself, a Marxist.
/r/MensRights12/08/20 06:59 PM
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Culture is created by the winners, just as history is written by them. Feminists and women are more powerful in many - maybe most, I dunno - ways and have the power to convincingly portray anyone who opposes them as being against human rights and equality. They have the numbers to lie by omission, and to ignore their own inaccuracies and hypocrisy. A lie told a thousand times becomes the truth.
/r/MensRights12/08/20 06:55 PM
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You cannot strike fear into a man who has no one he loves Yes, fear grows with love. But, I also fear great pain, simply because it feels really painful, might lead to being an invalid, or lead to death.
/r/MensRights12/08/20 06:39 PM
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Aside from the excess of misogyny - too many generalizations to all women, AWALT, etc., MGTOW has a lot to say to men that men should take into consideration, for their own welfare. Simply look into the stats on divorce and what happens to men in divorce courts. This extends to cohabitation in many cases. That, alone, entirely justifies MGTOW. And, that information, I believe, is what's behind most of the misogyny found in that viewpoint.
/r/MensRights12/08/20 06:00 PM
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I'm reading a large novel, Russka, by Peter Rutherford. It's about an area in Russia, not too far from Moscow, and spans the last 2 millennia. Even though it's historical fiction, the 'historical' part appears to be reasonably accurate. People have always screwed over other people. The rich fuck over the poor, the more powerful army often slaughters huge numbers of subjugated peoples. In 1800, some 95% of people were serfs, pretty much owned by the owners of the estates they lived on. They could…
/r/MensRights12/08/20 05:44 PM
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Agreed. I don't like exaggerations. No crime was committed, or could reasonably be claimed to have been committed. So, jail is highly unlikely.
/r/MensRights12/08/20 05:26 PM
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It serves women, for starters. The idea that any sexism at all, of any kind, harms men serves to diminish the perceived victimhood of women. It's much better for women if only the assertions of sexism against women are accepted as truth.
/r/MensRights12/08/20 05:17 PM
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Agree, of course. Stipulate that there must be sufficient evidence that a woman purposefully lied, to protect the women they tell us won't come forward to make charges in actual assaults.
/r/MensRights12/08/20 05:12 PM
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Women know false accusations are a major source of power. The threat, alone, is powerful. But, they have to keep denying this, because, if acknowledged, the power diminishes.
/r/MensRights12/08/20 05:10 PM
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The amazing thing is how privileged women are, all the while we only hear of how privileged men are. It's WRONGTHINK to doubt the privileges of men, and it'a actively suppressed.
/r/MensRights12/08/20 05:07 PM
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I like MGTOW, but they do make a lot of pejorative generalities about women as a whole. It IS misogynistic, as far as I can see. One can say that the "pure" form isn't necessarily misogynistic, but, in practice, that's not the case. The positive part are the warnings they provide for men. Marriage and cohabitation are very, very risky for men. Looking at the stats I've seen numerous times, I can't understand why the average man marries, other than because of conditioning and cultural forces.
/r/MensRights12/08/20 04:57 PM
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THINK ABOUT IT: women don't have to actually file false charges to get at men. They can threaten to. My wife threatened me with false DV charges once, simply because I was asserting a point - an idea, a belief about reality, that she didn't like. So, don't tell me that women don't use false charges. Imagine if guys simply threatened to hit women - I'm pretty sure that constitutes DV.
/r/MensRights12/08/20 04:51 PM
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The "funny" thing is, I've seen cases where 1 woman backs out of the relationship, and the 2nd woman go after the sperm donor for child support - and win.
/r/MensRights12/08/20 04:21 PM
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BS. He would NOT be going to jail.
/r/MensRights12/08/20 04:09 PM
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...and cultural Marxism is simply a term that many on the right have given to social change that they don't favor. It has absolutely nothing to do with workers owning and controlling the means of production. Thus, it has absolutely nothing to do with Marxism. But, at least the ''cultural" part is correct.
/r/MensRights03/08/20 02:03 AM
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men are the ones that cause and purse ends that end up in the deaths of men. Sorry, that went right over my head. Meaning? Oh...just saw it; "purse" is a typo of "pursue."
/r/MensRights03/08/20 01:54 AM
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Women looking good is like men paying for dates with women. Other women are doing their best to look good, which means that those who don't lose out. Other men paying for dates means that those who don't lose out. Both men and women face competition, but women blame that, along with everything else, on men.
/r/MensRights03/08/20 01:52 AM
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I think you've hit it on the head; people care about women a lot more than they care about men. Actually, I KNOW you've hit it it directly on the head: https://quillette.com/2020/07/27/the-myth-of-pervasive-misogyny/ Which would be ok, if women weren't so busy trying to convince all of us that men have everything better. It's like, in their minds, men have everything better, and when they don't, it's because men are inferior. And, this mentality pretty much surrounds us, everywhere, and at all t…
/r/MensRights03/08/20 01:45 AM
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Yes, that's the common theme for women and feminists: men are what's wrong with the world.
/r/MensRights03/08/20 01:43 AM
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I think it should only be mandatory jail time if it can be proved that the woman lied. Your level of proof would pretty much insure that no woman, anywhere, EVER accused a man of rape.
/r/MensRights03/08/20 01:39 AM
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"...first one unethical on the man's part." But, not on the woman's part? We ARE talking about a couple having sex, and only one of them thinks it's the beginning of a relationship, right?
/r/MensRights03/08/20 01:37 AM
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I can't see any law ever forcing the media to cover particular issues, or follow-ups on those issues.
/r/MensRights03/08/20 01:33 AM
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It depends what stats you read. I've seen stats about military rapes with vastly higher rates of false accusations.
/r/MensRights03/08/20 01:31 AM
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Simple answer: because it harms men more than it does women. They don't care about men in the first place, and they're more worried about other women being afraid to come forward than they are about men whose lives are ruined by a false accusation. It's a question of values.
/r/MensRights03/08/20 01:30 AM
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You like to think that the more pleasant fragrance doesn't cost more, and that businesses should suck it up, even if it does And, all while you have the ever available option to buy another kind that doesn't have that fragrance. Sorry, that's unreasonable. About those t shirts, I have no sympathy. Go buy the higher quality, less expensive t shirts in the men's department. Until women do that, the price will remain higher in the women's department. Maybe you want to talk to all those women in fas…
/r/MensRights03/08/20 12:38 AM
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Yes, because I'm sure women would love it if their husbands would fuck other women.
/r/MensRights03/08/20 12:30 AM
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...and we also hear that most DV is back and forth, with both side victimizing and being the victim. And, we don't care about those men, while we do care about those women. Nothing sexist about that, hey? The other big one is, when it's one partner that victimizes, it's the woman over 70% of the time. Another one: I've read a figure of 38% of hospital emergency visits for DV for men. Do you think a man is as likely to go to the emergency room for the same injury that a woman receives? I don't. I…
/r/MensRights03/08/20 12:27 AM
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Fuzzy? They take a newborn baby, who obviously can't consent, and mutilate his penis, mostly to satisfy the Great Spaghetti Monster, whom nobody has ever been able to show us any evidence whatsoever for the existence of. What's to like?! Do you think that male baby would choose that, if he were given a choice?!
/r/MensRights03/08/20 12:23 AM
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Very few individuals, and NO groups that I know of, really like those that disagree with them, and especially when there's a lot at stake.
/r/MensRights03/08/20 12:20 AM
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How many people can afford private education? Damn few. Even with public education, most of the money stays in wealthy areas. That's one of the things BLM wants to change. What you're proposing would widen the gap between the haves and the have-nots. The haves, of course, think it's a great idea.
/r/MensRights03/08/20 12:17 AM
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"Nobody likes me." Who said that, recently, and in a very public forum?
/r/MensRights03/08/20 12:09 AM
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Everything about femininity is about misdirection and manipulation. Turns out that it works on women, too.
/r/MensRights03/08/20 12:08 AM
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...and, women are very willing to pay for a pink razor and the fragrance in that body wash. It makes them feel feminine and, therefore, special. They could just buy the male razors and the male body wash, but they want constant acknowledgement that they're female. And, as an extra, added bonus, they get to complain about that. That makes them feel special, too. And, I've read that female razors do have a special angle to the blades. Either way, men shave more, use more razors, and those razors a…
/r/MensRights02/08/20 11:58 PM
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Not even that. Women don't like men who act weak. Well, crying and showing need are seen as weak when men do it. Women think they want men to be like women, but they really don't.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 11:55 PM
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I suspect that, just as most men aren't much attracted to women that come across as very masculine, most women aren't attracted to men that come across as very feminine. Women relate to other women emotionally. Then, they think it would be great if they could relate to men the same way. Then, when a man cries and acts like a really needy woman, in need of care and protection from a woman, when they feel they should be the recipient of that sympathy and protection, it's a complete turn off. We se…
/r/MensRights02/08/20 11:53 PM
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It's an attempt to force a man to act in a manly way, but only when that suits a particular woman. Most of the time, all "manliness" is considered toxic.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 11:39 PM
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"poopyhead???!!!"
/r/MensRights02/08/20 11:38 PM
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That's funny. I didn't know masculinity had any other flavor than "toxic." So, the problem with those men is that they don't have enough of that toxicity. I've seen that before in feminism; men are bad because they're too masculine, and they're bad because they're not masculine enough. And, there is no happy medium. IOW, women want it both ways.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 11:37 PM
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I like MGTOW...but, there really is a lot of misogyny to be found there. It's too bad, because they warn men about the downsides of women. There are serious drawbacks for men in relationships with women. Women are hugely privileged in many ways, and men run, unsuspectingly, into a buzz saw often enough when they enter close relationships with them.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 11:32 PM
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You know who holds power when you know who you can't complain about.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 11:26 PM
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Women grade boys lower for the same work. If there are no girls, it's not as likely that boys will be downgraded to make them look better. Also, boys don't look so uncontrollable with only other boys to compare to. Part of why boys get marked down is that they're more physically active, and show more behavior "problems" as a result. And, (I'm just guessing this) all-boy classes probably have more male teachers, who wouldn't be as likely to mark all boys lower (again, especially in an all-boys cl…
/r/MensRights02/08/20 11:14 PM
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...and it's only some kind of abuse because she decided it was. IOW, the same act by a desirable man isn't abuse. Women want laws and "justice" to cater to their individual wants.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 11:10 PM
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I've read that FGM is worse, because they remove the clitoris, too. I do believe that. But, MGM is WAY more widespread, and happens in places for which the only "good" reason is religion. MGM should end, not because it has anything to do with FGM, but because it's inflicted on helpless infants, when it should only happen to consenting adults, HERE, IN OUR COUNTRY.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 11:07 PM
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...and, this won't be seen, acknowledged, or acted upon by any country on Earth. A fart in the wind, as the expression goes. THAT'S why it's important for feminists to never, ever stop looking for ways to see women as disadvantaged. Flood the zone. Trump learned that from Bannon, who learned it from Putin. I wonder if Putin learned it by watching feminists operate.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 11:03 PM
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Yeah, in a fair fight, I'd bet on Depp. But, men are raised to think it's a crime if we defend ourselves, and women have always used that. So, she gets to beat on him, AND claim victimhood. Tell me that's a fair fight.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 10:59 PM
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I was raised by a complete bitch. Maybe I could let that go, but every time I see her treating my father like a POS - which is regularly, it brings it right back. So, I don't have that mothers-are-saints mentality that many people seem to have.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 10:56 PM
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Women have always received far more sexual attention than men have. As much as they claim it harms women, it's also a tremendous source of pleasure, power and influence (they don't often say that part out loud.) When that diminishes, they feel deprived.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 10:52 PM
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Ah, yes...toxic masculinity. Anything that hurts men is men's fault. Anything that hurts women is men's fault. Women have toxic femininity, but they call it "internalized misogyny." That, of course, if also men's fault.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 10:46 PM
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My guess: he loses, simply because the Sun can point to Heard's testimony. And, I haven't ever read the Sun, to my knowledge, but if they reported their stories by simply repeating her claims, NO WAY he wins. If, on the other hand, they made statements of fact that he abused her, with only her word against his as "proof", they should lose. But, with general cultural misandry rampant, I have to pick him as the loser.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 10:42 PM
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When women hold 50% of all positions of authority - although with so much female privilege, I have a hard time seeing why they'd bother, I truly believe women will have even more privileges than they do now. Why? Women seeking office often do so out of a feminist mindset. Very few feminists are going to try to take privileges away from women; they're more likely to seek more privileges.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 10:34 PM
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...so, it's not only history that is written by the winners.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 10:30 PM
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Ok, then she couldn't have aborted it. But, it could have been aborted. I've read about cultures or times when it was completely acceptable for a woman to kill a child below a certain age. I may be wrong on that, so if anybody can confirm or deny, I'm all ears.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 10:28 PM
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Women are more sexualized simply because men desire women more than women desire men. That's a double edged sword that women have A) long-since learned to take advantage of, and B) used to portray themselves as deserving special attention and sympathy. And, very few of them would give up the attention they get, simply for being women. And, again, we keep hearing that women like being "sexualized" if it's an attractive man, while it's sexual harassment if it's an undesirable man. IOW, women have …
/r/MensRights02/08/20 10:22 PM
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NAH. There are definite privileges for women. With all lives matter, there are stats that prove that blacks are treated more poorly than whites, in many areas. "All Lives Matter" comes from the idea that blacks are being unfairly advantaged over whites. The problem is, men's issues are ignored, in an endless search under every rock for any way in which women can be viewed as being disadvantaged, and even in cases where it's actually men. CAse in point: Hillary telling us it's women who are the b…
/r/MensRights02/08/20 10:17 PM
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Because it's a black person doing the killing. Have you seen the stats on per-arrest killings of black men vs. white men? Blacks are killed twice as often as whites.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 10:10 PM
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Egregious female privilege. I have to believe the thought process is something like: well, she could have aborted this child. How is this so much worse?
/r/MensRights02/08/20 10:07 PM
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Not a bad idea. If nothing else, it will raise a little awareness. And, where a man would be fired, she might get a gentle reminder.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 10:06 PM
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No, you're not being too anything at all. This is another female privilege. Makes me think I'd really like to see a well-done comparison of male privileges vs. female privileges. Being a prejudiced guy, I'd have to think women actually have more, all the while we never stop hearing about male privileges.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 10:05 PM
1

Bring a note from your wife and another one from your local police chief.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 10:02 PM
1

Women benefit by being in great shape, because they're much more attractive, and because men pursue women much more than women pursue men. Women know that, and they feel pressured to get all the benefits of all that attention, so they feel pressured to be in good shape. If they got as little attention as men receive, they'd feel much less pressure to be in good shape. What they're trying to do, which will never work, is to shame men for preferring women who are in good shape, because that's pain…
/r/MensRights02/08/20 09:48 PM
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ALL of the things that cost women more also cost more to make,or provide. They can go with lower cost, male items, but women SO want to be catered to as women that they're willing to pay a higher price for it.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 09:42 PM
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Gynocentrism. And, decades of feminist propaganda.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 09:38 PM
1

Does that take class and racism into account? Black people are much poorer on average (I read recently that whites hold 10 times more wealth, on average) So, if poverty is an issue - and, it is - then comparing all blacks to all whites should yield more crime. The proper comparison would be poor whites to poor blacks. Then there's racism. Believing that a culture has it in for you, when there's a lot of evidence that that's true, should lead to more rebellion, and more crime. Knowing that one ha…
/r/MensRights02/08/20 09:36 PM
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My understanding is, with ACA, rates are equal for women, even though women are much more expensive. Thus, men subsidize women. They decided that that's equality. This at the same time that men are charged more for insurance because they have more accidents (they also drive more miles per capita), and, therefore, are more expensive.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 09:31 PM
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"Why do they charge women less?" "Because they always charge women less." Oh. That explains it.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 09:28 PM
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Love it. Imagine a man getting away with DV by claiming higher testosterone. Damn, there are just endless examples of female privilege, all the while we only hear about male privilege. And, come to think about it, only hearing about male privilege is yet another female privilege. A HUGE one.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 09:26 PM
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It's ok for women to not want anything to do with men. It's not ok for men to not want anything to do with women. Basically, privilege for women.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 09:24 PM
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MY GUESS: Women are less physically attracted to men than men are to women. If that weren't the case, then women would have, since the beginning of time, chased men for sex at much as men have chased women. And, because the results for women are much more demanding, with pregnancy, childbirth, possible death for both mother and child, and time (men could, with far less effort, father many more children in the same period of time than a woman could conceive and bear.) That all makes sex much more…
/r/MensRights02/08/20 09:18 PM
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Yeah, you were as raped as a 13 year old girl would be, with a 16 year old boy, even if she wanted it. But, it doesn't matter, because you're male.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 09:05 PM
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...because just about everything female is more praised in these times. It's one of the side effects of the societal conclusion that men are much more privileged, despite evidence to the contrary.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 09:03 PM
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...and, there are several studies (sorry, I don't have the links available) that tell us that female teachers grade work higher if it came from a girl. And, there are more female teachers in the early grades. So, boys are at a disadvantage from the outset. Further, boys do better when more physical activity is incorporated into the learning environment.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 09:01 PM
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Yes. AND, lesbians don't face the prejudice of the Duluth Model. If one lesbian assaults another, and the 2nd one defends herself, the cops don't automatically believe one over the other, based on gender. Men, even when defending themselves, are much more likely to be arrested than the assaulting woman is.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 08:43 PM
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So, just browse this sub reddit when you're in the mood. Done.
/r/MensRights14/07/20 01:15 AM
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TWO THINGS: men are more hated than, maybe, ever before. AND, almost all cultures have always protected women, leaving men to fend for themselves. So, why is it, again, that men should open up about their emotions?
/r/MensRights14/07/20 01:09 AM
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...except that men get assaulted a lot more than women do. AND, men get assaulted more by women than women do by men. AND, if we do defend ourselves, we're the one who's going to jail. We can only hope, if we get assaulted by a woman, and we then walk away, that she doesn't decide to make a false claim. The law makes a very good weapon for women, and they're very well aware of that.
/r/MensRights14/07/20 01:05 AM
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Well, do you think feminists have much concern about the sexual pleasure of men? I'm guessing it would be a small minority of feminists who have any concern at all about that. AND, this is a sub reddit for men's rights. What do female orgasms have to do with men's rights? It's a bit like asking our position on animal rights.
/r/MensRights14/07/20 12:53 AM
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MGTOW. No, you don't have to hate women. There are some things to watch out for. Aside from all the misogyny in the MGTOW sub reddit, there are lots of warnings to men. Heed them. The other thing is, women have less use for men than maybe any other time in the past few centuries. So, don't waste time, effort, money trying to push it. Work on yourself, make your life better. After you do, pay attention to those MGTOW warnings again, because it really does seem like one of the main things women wa…
/r/MensRights14/07/20 12:46 AM
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Consider that she's fucking with you to punish you with anxiety about her being pregnant. And, you could get a DNA test if she turns up pregnant and decides to keep it. Relax. That an active process. Get some physical exercise, meditate. Stop obsessing about a vindictive bitch.
/r/MensRights14/07/20 12:42 AM
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Nobody told you because not that many people have made the transition you did - or, you didn't talk to some of the people who have.
/r/MensRights14/07/20 12:20 AM
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https://www.newscientist.com/article/2246987-us-police-kill-up-to-6-times-more-black-people-than-white-people/ Blacks commit more crimes per capita. So, it makes sense that they'd be killed more. What I'd like to see is information on black vs. white deaths as a function of wealth and income. I'm guessing that poor inner city blacks commit crimes near the level of poor inner city whites. But, what we see instead, is the rate of crime of all blacks vs. all whites. Black people hold, on average, a…
/r/MensRights10/07/20 09:29 PM
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Not dumb at all, but thanks for your opinion. The first place I looked https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex_of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls And, for the year 2013, showed 3005 white people killed, and 2491 black people killed. In 2017, non-Hispanic whites comprised 60.7% of the US population. Blacks comprised about 14%. The years are different, but I w…
/r/MensRights10/07/20 09:04 PM
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Ok. Barring any actual information on my part, that sounds reasonable.
/r/MGTOW210/07/20 08:31 PM
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I just learned something. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism Definition of racism 1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race 2a: a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles b: a political or social system founded on racism. Yup, a black person can believe that race is the primary determinant of human trai…
/r/MensRights10/07/20 08:24 PM
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A quick search tells me people do receive wages for labor in China. Another quick search tells me they basically own property, too. https://www.loc.gov/law/help/real-property-law/china.php#:~:text=Summary,of%20years%20for%20a%20fee.&text=In%20addition%2C%20individuals%20can%20privately,which%20the%20buildings%20are%20situated. "Individuals cannot privately own land in China but may obtain transferrable land-use rights for a number of years for a fee. Currently, the maximum term for urban land-us…
/r/MGTOW210/07/20 08:06 PM
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What you don't know and understand has filled books. You should read some of them. And, look up the difference between racism and prejudice. It's an important distinction that too many white people ignore. I'm white, BTW. And, turn off Fox, because you didn't get any of the ignorance in your last post from CNN.
/r/MensRights09/07/20 12:43 AM
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White people aren't killed more often per-capita. Black people are. And, you're pretending that blacks commit more crime in a vacuum. Unfortunately, they don't live in a vacuum. They live with significantly more poverty and institutional racism. Whites don't face racism at all.
/r/MensRights09/07/20 12:33 AM
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Do you understand the notion of statistics? If so, then you know that stats tell us that blacks are stopped and abused a lot more often, and that, if whites are abused by cops 10% of the time, IT'S WAY WORSE THAT BLACKS ARE STOPPED AND ABUSED 30% OF THE TIME. And, while I don't have any links handy, I'll bet you'd have no problem finding that information on the net. If you really wanted to. My figures are off. They're used here just to illustrate a point.
/r/MensRights09/07/20 12:10 AM
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I don't do anecdotal. I can't link to statistics, but, I've read that stats say there's an obvious difference in the way blacks are treated by police, and the law (and by damn near everything else of importance in our society) as compared to how whites are treated. So, we disagree. Yes, whites get treated by aholes abusing their power. Just, way less often.
/r/MensRights09/07/20 12:07 AM
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We differ. I don't care if an older man dates a younger women, if that makes them happy. And, I keep reading things like, women are most attractive to men in their early 20s, while much older men are most attractive, on a number of levels, to women in their late 40s. It doesn't hurt me if a 45-year-old man wants to date a 23-year-old woman, so long as she wants to date him.
/r/MGTOW209/07/20 12:03 AM
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A lot of MGTOW is based on women using men. That's a hugely major legitimate concern. IOW, stay away from them because they can be very, very bad news. But, we also hear that women, in general, have no use at all for 80% of men. Ok. They have their reasons, real and/or imagined. Either way, why waste time and effort on people who have no use for us, when we can use that time to make our lives better without them?
/r/MGTOW208/07/20 11:54 PM
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59% (Petrovich and Templer, 1984), 66% (Groth, 1979) and 80% (Briere and Smiljanich, 1993) So, you search each paper on the net. E.G., do a search on "Petrovich and Templer, 1984." You get a list of possible hits. One of them was https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1985-04335-001 Others: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00854712 https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/publications/Abstract.aspx?id=72986" https://books.google.com/books?id=DoQ5DQAAQBAJ&pg=PA122&lpg=PA122&dq=Briere+and+Smiljanich,+1993&sou…
/r/MensRights08/07/20 11:48 PM
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People on the Right have the idea that communism is about sitting at home collecting, while other people work. That's entirely incorrect. And, it would be interesting to get an idea of how much "slavery" there is/was. Overall, it would be good to know what life is really like, without having to filter it through information outlets that have a built-in reason for making it sound as bad as possible. You know - information, instead of propaganda.
/r/MGTOW208/07/20 10:58 PM
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Have you seen the information out there on what age men are most attractive at? Men have time.
/r/MGTOW207/07/20 10:01 PM
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Just for the information: while a lot of really bad things happened in Russia and China, both of them came a very long way economically under communism. They didn't do that by not working. So, the possibly useful information is that you don't get something for nothing in communism. People don't sit at home, leeching off a few hard-working capitalists, the way people on the right, here in the US, envision it.
/r/MGTOW207/07/20 09:50 PM
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1.Feminism. While I do like that everybody has more options than in the past, I've seen 50 years of women blaming everything on men, at the same time that they want to hold on to benevolent sexism. 2.Women really are a lot less respectful of, and interested in, men these days. Quite a number of them really don't like us, and, in general, there's a lot of trashing of men in these times. Some distance from that is very beneficial.
/r/MGTOW207/07/20 09:35 PM
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I'm just finishing it, into the 2nd epilogue. Suddenly very interested in Russia, and maybe a Napoleon biography. I have a big Peter Rutherfurd book Russka, ready to go on my Kindle. It's funny; I'd love to believe there's a God, but the evidence just isn't there. Still, I liked what Tolstoy had to say about God. Of more interest is his take on history, on what power is, and how people are affected by it.
/r/MGTOW207/07/20 09:31 PM
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VAGUELY RELATED: LOVED The Brothers Karamazov by him. Crime and Punishment. Does anybody remember Columbo, with Peter Falk. The detective in C&P made me think of him so often. I wouldn't be surprised if Falk was inspired by that character.
/r/MGTOW207/07/20 09:26 PM
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ONLY PERIPHERALLY RELATED: Haven't read it. Might, because I'm just now 98% of the way (or so my Kindle tells me) through War and Peace. Why I posted this: Man can write. Man can think. AND, Tolstoy writes A LOT about the motivations behind what people do. That might be the best thing about it. He has interesting things to say about everybody, but people here would find some of his observations on women very interesting.
/r/MGTOW207/07/20 09:23 PM
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We had the killing of George Floyd on video. That's pretty good proof. And, we have lots of evidence of other cops treating black males very differently from white ones - including video and eyewitness testimony. And, we have historical records for slavery, Jim Crow, poll taxes, the Oklahoma City massacre, etc. If we have a rape or assault attempt on video, with 10 eyewitnesses, it's pretty much an open and shut case.
/r/MensRights06/07/20 09:24 PM
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Funny, they tell us false rape/assault claims hurt all women (and ignore the fact that it tells men they don't count at all.) So, this lovely lady would gladly hurt all women to get at some guy who didn't want to make nice with her friend.
/r/MensRights06/07/20 09:18 PM
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Low is relative. If one is expecting more, then a given figure is low, relative to that. If one is expecting less, then the given figure is high, relative to that. You should just give it up. I have.
/r/MensRights30/06/20 10:18 PM
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Nah. Just smarter than you. But, that's not a very high bar.
/r/MensRights30/06/20 08:37 PM
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Love it. I wrote a little contrary political BS for you, just so you could get a better idea of what using a sub reddit devoted to men's rights for your political notions could so easily lead to. You, completely obtuse, decide to criticize me for bringing up politics, as though I don't know what that can do to this sub reddit. Right over your head. I don't know how I could forget, but half of the population really does have an IQ lower than average.
/r/MensRights30/06/20 07:46 PM
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Women don't have to follow the same rules that they expect men to follow. And, some men think the same way, that only men need rules.
/r/MensRights30/06/20 07:15 PM
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It emphasizes the rudeness of the people he was talking with.
/r/MensRights30/06/20 07:12 PM
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I hate it when people bring politics into a sub devoted to men's issues. Of course you don't think so, but I've never noticed any lack of toxic rightists, telling us their racist, ignorant, environmentally unsound, pandemic-information-challenged BS here in this sub reddit. If you want to continue this, I could go on all day, even before I bring up Trump. Or, maybe we could let this be the sub reddit devoted to men's rights that people come here for.
/r/MensRights30/06/20 06:57 PM
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I got mine over 30 years ago. The Doc asked my wife if she was ok with it, too. I can't imagine any abortionist would ask me if I was ok with my wife getting an abortion, OR if it was ok with me if she wanted a tubal ligation.
/r/MensRights30/06/20 06:51 PM
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You have to do what you think best, if you can come to enough clarity of mind to have some confidence in your actions. I hope you don't put up with abuse and an all-around bad situation for much longer.
/r/MensRights30/06/20 04:19 PM
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I don't...any more than you know he didn't think a third was anything to be concerned about.
/r/MensRights30/06/20 04:07 PM
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No shit, Sherlock! Men can do other things. But, whether or not they'll be valued for other things remains to be seen. They've always been valued as protectors and providers, to the point that that's all many men ever try to be. MGTOW. Not absolute, but enough to look twice, and then twice again, before agreeing to give up everything else in life, in order to serve women.
/r/MensRights29/06/20 08:05 PM
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Pro-life feminism. Endless misandry.
/r/MensRights29/06/20 08:02 PM
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Because men are hated for being men, before they do anything to deserve it. In a word, misandry.
/r/MensRights29/06/20 08:01 PM
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Obvious evidence of misandry. It's a political act to purposefully avoid that word, while we never, ever stop hearing about misogyny. Misogyny, I suspect, is mostly women projecting their misandry. Most male misogyny is a reaction to 50 years of virulent misandry.
/r/MensRights29/06/20 08:00 PM
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Interesting and highly valuable perspective. This will get a billion down votes, but I suspect that, if it's not violent, painful, or scary, the worst thing about being a victim of pedophilia is the social reaction that other people have. For an innocent child, it's just a physical sensation. It's everybody else acting completely horrified that makes it horrifying for the child. NOT ADVOCATING PEDOPHELIA!! And, I have no experience in this whatsoever, so it's just a hypothesis. But, some things …
/r/MensRights29/06/20 07:52 PM
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Yes, a lot of shows have some feminist content these days. If they ever show disadvantages that men have, they very, very seldom point it out as any kind of widespread social issue; it's just something that happened that one time in band camp.
/r/MensRights29/06/20 07:46 PM
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You have a point. I don't down vote you. But, men have a separate issue, in that homosexual rape is, as another poster pointed out, a whole different ballgame than normal heterosexual rape. Heterosexual rape doesn't call into question the victim's sexual identity. If a man isn't some kind of man, he's nothing, in our culture. Being raped by another man - just an opinion, here, but I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the suicide stats in such cases are much higher than in heterosexual rape. …
/r/MensRights29/06/20 07:38 PM
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Thank you for your opinion. I'm always amazed at people who can accept their own opinion as fact, with no evidence whatsoever.
/r/MensRights29/06/20 07:28 PM
1

Just saw a figure within the past few days, that a clear majority of male rapists were sexually abused by women when those men were children. It was so high, I could hardly believe it.
/r/MensRights29/06/20 07:26 PM
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Some women want laws that are only enforced on men. There are good things about MGTOW. It's not for everybody, and it doesn't have to be complete avoidance. But, a little strategic distance can be very beneficial.
/r/MensRights29/06/20 07:24 PM
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If I understand you, you think the guy was excusing those women; he thinks that a third isn't so bad. My point is, HE THINKS IT'S MUCH HIGHER THAN THAT. Thus, a third is much lower than the actual figure, in his opinion. That leaves you insulting people because you don't understand them.
/r/MensRights29/06/20 07:20 PM
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I"d rather masturbate.
/r/MensRights29/06/20 06:58 PM
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I"d love to see a study supporting that figure.
/r/MensRights29/06/20 06:56 PM
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Women tell themselves it's excusable, because they can tell themselves the guys are just there for sex. The culture tells them they should be paid for sex, one way or another.
/r/MensRights29/06/20 06:55 PM
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You're not from the US, I'm guessing.
/r/MensRights29/06/20 06:54 PM
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Agreed. No figure whatsoever. That said, I'm probably 35 lbs. overweight.
/r/MensRights29/06/20 06:53 PM
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Clarification: the men aren't perpetrating a fraud; The women are. But, I'm guessing they have endless rationalizations. Everybody has endless reasons for what they do. Many of them look like rationalizations to others.
/r/MensRights29/06/20 06:52 PM
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Needlessly insulting. For all you know, he thought it was more like 50%. That would make 33% seem low. And, it wasn't very likely that he didn't know that 33% = one third.
/r/MensRights29/06/20 06:48 PM
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Relax. The culture tells us that guys do want sex, and want it more than women. Women DO have sexual power just for that reason. This guy isn't trashing men; he's repeating a stereotype that does have some relationship with the truth. His main point is, men have wants, women have wants. Don't give up on your wants while giving women what they want.
/r/MensRights29/06/20 06:44 PM
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Most of the time when I go on a date, it's not for the sex. If I'm on a date, I'm exploring the possibility of a relationship.
/r/MensRights29/06/20 06:41 PM
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For those who don't understand statistics, and who want to pass this on accurately: THIS DOESN'T MEAN THAT A THIRD OF THE TIME WHEN WOMEN GO ON DATES, IT'S JUST FOR THE FOOD. That's what somebody who's fact challenged would say - Trump comes to mind. It means that a third of women have gone on a date just for the food. So, a woman could do that, say, twice in her life, and all the rest of the time she goes on the date to meet or be with the other person. Potentially, there's a HUGE difference.
/r/MensRights29/06/20 06:37 PM
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I can see how you would like to stay, because of the way you've been treated. But, how long do you want to be treated that way? Do you really expect her to return to some semblance of normal behavior? Unless you expect her to improve, what's the point of continuing to be treated badly? And, if you're going to move out, why not move out sooner? Yes, the bitch should be the one who has to go. But, the world takes care of women before men, and nothing is going to change that. There really are thing…
/r/MensRights29/06/20 06:26 PM
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I had 3 roommates in college, in the 70s. One of them was openly gay. He brought guys over to spend the night. We didn't care. We were too busy trying to find women to spend the night.
/r/MensRights16/06/20 01:40 AM
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99% of what cops do is legal and desired. But, they have power, and power corrupts. I was abused by a cop once, basically for speaking up for myself when he shouted in my face. Later, he said I was acting threateningly.
/r/MensRights16/06/20 12:47 AM
1

welcome to (honorary) masculinity.
/r/MensRights15/05/20 11:04 PM
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...so long as you're a woman.
/r/MensRights15/05/20 10:52 PM
0

Yes, but Trump is the biggest lyingest POS anybody ever heard of, AND he's had something like 20 accusations of sexual harassment, and 2 rape accusations. They have recordings of him telling somebody how women let him just walk up and feel their pussies. Tell me he hasn't assaulted women. Go ahead; lie like him. Biden is so obviously the better choice. I mean, if you want to turn the MRA sub reddit into another political sub reddit.
/r/MensRights15/05/20 10:47 PM
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Ya' picked some example for "real life," there.
/r/MensRights15/05/20 10:00 PM
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Objectification: I've come to think that that's complete bull shit. Women spend a significant amount of time trying to look attractive and sexy. But, the ones who do never say a fucking word when feminists complain about what victims women are to objectification. I think women are supposed to be sex objects. And, if they don't wish to be, it's easy enough to dress in a completely non-sexual and/or less make-up, less tight clothing, less attractive way. But, don't try to look as attractive as pos…
/r/MensRights15/05/20 09:43 PM
1

Women NEVER want it forgotten that they are women. And, they never want to stop seeing stories and articles about women that make them feel special. It's all about attention.
/r/MensRights27/04/20 09:08 PM
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Objectification of women. Women play to objectification. That's why you always see models showing lots and lots of skin. That's why you see women wanting to be sexy and beautiful all the time. Fact is, they want all the benefits of being desired for their sexuality and beauty, AND they want to complain about it. They want it both ways.
/r/MensRights27/04/20 08:48 PM
1

Nah. I look in on MGTOW a lot, because I like to read negative things about women. WHY? I've become polarized about women's issues, and so much male bashing in our culture. I see a LOT of misogyny there.
/r/MensRights27/04/20 05:24 PM
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Can you say 'projection?' I believe most 'misogyny' is women projecting their misandry. And, a lot of misogyny is in reaction to women's misandry.
/r/MensRights27/04/20 05:22 PM
1

Any pointers as to evidence that it was his discovery, and not a mutual discovery?
/r/MensRights03/04/20 08:40 PM
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If women liked men with only one ear, would you have one cut off? Would you let them remove the ear of an infant? What else would you let people cut off of an infant, for style points? I'm for freedom of religion, up to the point where they try to tell others what to believe...and up to the point before they remove body parts from infants.
/r/MensRights26/03/20 08:44 PM
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Good for you. And, you could've gotten one any time, once you were an adult. Me, I wouldn't cut anything off my body just because women like that. What do you think they would cut off for you, just because you like it?
/r/MensRights26/03/20 08:40 PM
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I was born in the US, got circumcized. It's very much a US custom.
/r/MensRights26/03/20 08:35 PM
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If that was sarcasm, it wasn't apparent. If it wasn't, then why would you need to get circumsized at 43?
/r/MensRights26/03/20 08:34 PM
1

BS. She's calling for such a law to make a point about the availability of abortion for women. While she might actually want it to pass, it hasn't a chance in hell, and everybody knows that. Really, this is outrage over pretty much nothing.
/r/MensRights03/03/20 08:31 PM
1

I get more motivation towards MGTOW from this sub than I do from the MGTOW sub. There, the complaint about women is that they view men as providers. Here, it's that women and our current culture think men are pretty much shit. Both good reasons to, maybe not completely avoid, but be very, very careful about women, and watch for the red flags.
/r/MensRights03/03/20 07:17 PM
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MGTOW! Look, so many women have no use for most men, anyway. So, if most men spend a lot more of their time finding satisfactions other than women, how could everybody not be a lot happier? Yes, there's lots of misogyny in MGTOW - just as there's lots of misandry among feminists. But, when you find out the biggest use most women have for you is for your resources - just as so many women think the biggest use men have for them is for sex, a little animosity is in order. A little separation, for a…
/r/MensRights22/02/20 03:31 PM
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Dirty Rotten Scoundrels - the title of the movie tells the whole story. Guys who bilk women out of money are ... dirty rotten scoundrels.
/r/MensRights22/02/20 03:25 PM
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I said that women are more okay with doing it themselves. Ok, really, this isn't a major anything that I feel a great need to defend. I just disagree. I think men are just fine with masturbating, that we get the vast majority of our sexual satisfaction from it. We don't do it much to reach orgasm in the middle of sex with a woman, at a guess, but otherwise, I'd have to guess that most male orgasms are masturbatory - and in much higher numbers than among women. My point is, masturbation is great …
/r/MensRights16/02/20 04:12 PM
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Women masturbate more? Doubt it. More lesbians than gay men? Not according to some mainstream statistics. Most men won't do without women, IMHO. But, I really think we need to learn from MGTOW, just as women have learned from feminism. Women will have sexual power over us for as long as we do nothing at all to fight it. No group publicizes that as much as MGTOW. Yes, there's quite a large misogyny factor in MGTOW - feminism was necessary, even though there's a huge misandry factor involved. Now,…
/r/MensRights11/02/20 07:35 PM
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I've read different statistics. What I've read: most DV is back and forth, with both parties physically abusing the other. (Of course, it's only in forums like this one that anybody cares about the males in those relationships.) When it's 1-sided abuse, it's the woman doing the abusing 70-80% of the time. That makes women more abusive than men - while we still only care about women victims. I've read that statistic numerous times now.
/r/MensRights11/02/20 12:16 AM
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Sorry, but if all-males teams are discriminatory, so are all-female teams. Women keep doing this; they want special treatment, and they want to call that 'equality.' They want rules for men, that women don't have to follow. They want men who live now pay for the supposed crimes of the male sex against the female sex, even though men who live now are the most egalitarian EVAH! They want benevolent sexism, AND they want equality - but only where that suits them.
/r/MensRights10/02/20 11:50 PM
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MGTOW, until women decide they want us for something other than services and money. There are 50 years worth of propaganda denigrating men, and that has to be overcome. So, give it time. This will also help with over population.
/r/MensRights10/02/20 11:44 PM
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Feminists love men about as much as MGTOW love women. Too many feminists have made men the enemy for the past 50 years, to the point where the whole culture sees men as needing no attention whatsoever and, worse, as being THE PROBLEM with the world. Fuck feminists.
/r/MensRights10/02/20 11:41 PM
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Yes, Maybe that's true. But, unless there are statisticians doing fair statistical things, that's going to be hard to prove. People see what they like to see, and admit and respect evidence that confirms what they like to believe. So, the OP very likely likes to believe that it's mostly men who don't care about men who are raped, assaulted, and harassed by women. Meanwhile, lately, women and feminists are unhappy with men who don't do more to stop sexism...against women. So, when women rise up a…
/r/MensRights10/02/20 11:36 PM
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Oh, but the IMAGINARY FRIEND IN THE SKY wants boys to be circumsized. It's real simple: if MEN want to be circumsized, they can do it when they reach the age of consent. It's not something that should be done to anybody who is unable to consent, much less a helpless infant. FUCK FAITH AND THE ASSHOLES WHO TRY TO SHOVE IT DOWN THE THROATS OF OTHERS!!!
/r/MensRights10/02/20 11:21 PM
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OP: Get it straight. 3/4 OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS ARE MEN. That's very, very, very different from 3/4 of men are homeless.
/r/MensRights10/02/20 11:17 PM
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YOU, maybe. But, we're reading that women aren't marrying as much in these times because men are falling behind financially. That gives us all a completely fair overview. Women want men mostly for resources.
/r/MensRights10/02/20 10:46 PM
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If you look at women's sub reddits, you'll find LOTS of female toxicity. There are some men who are completely prejudiced against women, just as there are some women completely prejudiced against men. The culture, overall, favors women, and condones misandry, all the while it condemns men and misogyny. And, more misogyny occurs as a result.
/r/MensRights10/02/20 10:43 PM
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Ok, Orwell would not be proud. Orwell wrote about totalitarianism as a bad thing. Anonymous accusations would not be something he would admire or advocate. Yes, I know what OP intended, but it's still up to OP to make sense.
/r/MensRights10/02/20 10:36 PM
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Yes, I believe this. AND, I also believe that many older actresses have had fewer roles available to them - although I don't know if that's still true. That would mean that more older men have access to good roles than older women do.
/r/MensRights10/02/20 10:25 PM
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Yeah, I read mostly books by men because I'm just not all that interested in the things that are important to women.
/r/MensRights10/02/20 10:23 PM
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The 1% aren't mostly men. Men die sooner and leave their wealth to the wives. Last I read, women actually control most of the wealth in the world. That's on top of the statistic that tells us that women spend something like 80% of household money.
/r/MensRights10/02/20 10:22 PM
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We should all be ashamed we allowed... Please make sense! WE didn't allow it; our culture, which puts women on a pedestal, and shits on men, did it, after decades of propaganda telling us all that women should be believed.
/r/MensRights10/02/20 10:19 PM
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Ok, WHY did I get my 1 measly vote removed?! Like, it wouldn't have been cool if they had looked him up and found out they were dismissing the guy who created the @#$%& thing?! That would have been HUGELY cool.
/r/MensRights30/12/19 11:04 PM
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I'm describing the fact that there's quite a lot of overlap between feminists and women, in general. Most women and men in these times accept the basic tenets of feminism, and the basis of feminism is that men are the ruling class.
/r/MensRights15/12/19 11:34 PM
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Yet most women are very pro-woman, very willing to blame men for gender discrimination, very concerned about their rights. How does any of that make sense without some version of the patriarchy? Male discrimination against women is a cultural, collective belief.
/r/MensRights14/12/19 01:09 AM
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Attributed to Joseph Goebbels: A lie told once remains a lie remains a lie, but a lie told a thousand times becomes the truth. -may not be verbatim, but close enough.
/r/MensRights14/12/19 01:07 AM
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That's because all they ever hear about is female suffering, female issues. Makes 'em feel special, so they're all for it. That makes it a huge downer to find out how often males are victims. So, they're all against that.
/r/MensRights14/12/19 01:00 AM
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Whether or not the young person enjoys it isn't the issue. Statutory rape. It's a crime, regardless of gender. And, let's look at women who are considered to be have been raped if they have too much to drink, even though they actively participated. They enjoyed it, but changed their mind later on. That's still considered rape. Fact is, women (really, today's radical feminist is tomorrow's average woman) don't want to have to put up with the same laws they want men to be subject to. They're victi…
/r/MensRights14/12/19 12:56 AM
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The obvious: imagine male family members commenting on the size of underage girls' breasts, the shapes of their butts, and what their pussies might look like.
/r/MensRights14/12/19 12:46 AM
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Honestly, I think MGTOW is mostly centered on divorced men who've been divorce-raped, who now think ever having entering into a relationship with a woman was the biggest mistake in their lives. And, it's about other men who have had it with women using them for money. It's almost as full of misogyny as some of the feminist/women-centered subreddits are full of misandry. I like to read it when I'm fed up with seeing still more misandry in our culture. I don't think it's a good idea (for me) to go…
/r/MensRights14/12/19 12:36 AM
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Are girls welcome here? Yes. But, you have to first go read all the feminist/women centered subreddits that don't allow any 'moid' input, and are supportive of women who abort male babies exclusively. Just so you can gain a finer appreciation of what we're up against.
/r/MensRights14/12/19 12:29 AM
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Yes, and we've been hearing about all those centuries of being under macho cultures and traditions as well as personal experience, from every feminist who every walked and spoke. There are, from what I've heard, different ways to interpret all of that, and it's not so clear that women have been victims since there have been humans on this earth - and before. So, really, I don't need you to repeat the same old story, because everyone has heard it for all of their lives. What we're talking about h…
/r/MensRights22/11/19 06:37 PM
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Respectfully, completely disagree. Actually, it is a competition. The reason women don't get indicted and jailed when they have obviously lied is because the general consensus is that it would stop women who have been raped from coming forward for fear they won't be believed. In that competition, the men who have been falsely accused lose almost all of the time. That's why it matters to think about it and decide what should happen with obvious liars. As I said, I think women are believed enough …
/r/MensRights22/11/19 06:29 PM
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So much of feminism, and so many feminists, put men all in the same bag. You ally yourself with a cause that doesn't treat men as individuals, while you, yourself, ask to be treated as an individual.
/r/MensRights22/11/19 03:10 AM
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If you were the one being attacked by "non-real feminism", then you would consider it real feminism. Since you are not, you have the luxury of ignoring it.
/r/MensRights22/11/19 02:51 AM
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You're making it about you. If you're asking why some MRAs hate feminism, then making it about you, and how you would never do those really hateful things, isn't going to get you as far in learning about MRAs. Some MRAs are as vitriolic as some radical feminists. Some like equality for women, but want to include the major male issues that get little action, even if the attention level might be rising. Some just want the hypocrisy to end. Some are just tired of being told by women that men are wh…
/r/MensRights22/11/19 02:45 AM
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Feminism prospered because it found (some say created) an enemy to focus on. Roger Ailes, the Fox News guy, found it much more effective to get his followers to focus on, and hate, people than to oppose abstract beliefs and cultural norms. He personalized it, and Fox took off. Same with feminism. I read an article not too long ago, about feminists saying it might be time to start including men, making us allies, instead of making us the enemy. The animosity you see coming from men and MRAs is ka…
/r/MensRights22/11/19 02:36 AM
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So, you think it would be hard to find a website where women post about disliking men? ANY time you have members of one distinct group waxing hateful towards another group, you're going to find members of that other group saying hateful things about the 1st group. Some MRAs say hateful things about women and feminists. Some women and feminists say hateful things about men and MRAs. That shouldn't be surprising.
/r/MensRights22/11/19 02:26 AM
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I don't see a big difference between feminists and women. Today's radical feminist is tomorrow's average woman. Look at the beliefs of the average woman of today vs. the beliefs of the radical feminist of, say, the 70s.
/r/MensRights22/11/19 02:23 AM
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You might have to be a man to get a feel for what 50 years of being told that everything that's wrong with the world is your fault, is like. Not all the responses to that are going to be completely rational and thoughtfully expressed. Hatred breeds hatred. If you don't think lots of women and feminists have expressed lots of hatred, animosity, dislike, etc., for men, then you have absolutely NO idea what it's been like for men for most of the decades of my life. ONe of my favorites is radical fe…
/r/MensRights22/11/19 02:12 AM
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I found it pretty immature because that is definately not true. Yes, about as immature as telling women that men want to control, dominate, and rape women, while holding onto an endless list of male privileges. The single biggest thing MRAs don't like about feminism is the hypocrisy. Different rules for men and women, in the name of equality. Hearing so much more about menstrual equity from women than we do about male suicide, male homelessness, male educational issues...like that. Women, includ…
/r/MensRights22/11/19 01:52 AM
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This makes me think that men have to start getting together to take care of men, because nobody else will. Issues like male suicide, earlier male deaths, male homelessness. Those are hugely more important than menstrual equity. But, you know what would happen if men actually started organizing to take care of men, the way women take care of women? The men who ran such organizations would be endlessly shamed for taking care of men, while any woman, anywhere, was left out in the cold - the way all…
/r/MensRights22/11/19 01:38 AM
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There are lots of people in the world in need. If people want to donate, fine. What will happen, though, is they'll make all this stuff a right, and tax-payers will fund it. Since women will benefit more than men, this is a call for men to subsidize women. I can't think of anything women would like to subsidize for men.
/r/MensRights22/11/19 01:22 AM
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Once you're dead, it can be assumed that you're not a victim anymore - unless you're one of the faithful who's sure there's an afterlife. In that sense, women and children bereft of fathers, sons, brothers, etc., remain behind to suffer, while the men are dead and gone. OK. BUT, that leaves out the life that men live while fighting wars. It leaves out the constant fear and worry. It leaves out being taken away from everyone and everything one knows and loves. It leaves out PTSD, and the loss of …
/r/MensRights22/11/19 01:09 AM
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The women who are disturbed by false accusations are those that closely associate with the accused. A mother who doesn't believe her son did it, for instance. Mostly, women care about women being believed, and not about the men falsely accused.
/r/MensRights22/11/19 12:52 AM
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These days, women are believed enough for an investigation, even though there are false accusations...unless, it's somebody like Trump who is accused. So, to me, it's men who are the primary victims of false accusations. I think falsely accused men are harmed much more by those accusations than women who have actually been raped.
/r/MensRights22/11/19 12:49 AM
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So, you'd like the people working there to somehow testify on his behalf? What evidence would you accept, given that you're only ever going to hear one side of anything in a sub reddit post?
/r/MensRights22/11/19 12:24 AM
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Um...yes, and no. You're basically asking for proof, as though this guy is just here for the attention. Well, he might be, but I see the advice being given done so on the basis that he's telling the truth. So, just in case he's actually telling the truth, he's getting some useful advice and commiseration. If he's not telling the truth, then who is hurt? And, the truth he might be telling pretty much fits with what men have learned to expect in an environment where men talk quite a lot about bein…
/r/MensRights22/11/19 12:23 AM
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It is talked about. Mostly, what is said is that guys have to change, to stop being toxically masculine. And, just saw a study today that told us mothers are more often the ones to tell their sons that boys don't cry. https://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/boys-don-t-cry-study-suggests-mothers-not-fathers-show-gender-bias-towards-sons-1.4693208?cid=sm%3Atrueanthem%3Actvnews%3Apost&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+New+Content+%28Feed%29&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3XRkGKjYbPAWsoELBr3k…
/r/MensRights22/11/19 12:15 AM
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Yeah, I don't buy that hitting men is about internalized misogyny. I buy that it's about women thinking that women should be protected from men, and that men should just man-up about being hit. I think it's privilege, straight-up, that this woman is attempting to blame on men, because women keep telling themselves that men are to blame for pretty much everything that's wrong with the world. Call that whatever you like.
/r/MensRights22/11/19 12:00 AM
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She's clearly not open minded, sounds more like a closed box. Most people don't like to think this way about themselves, but it's true of almost all of us. I keep reading that people form their opinions, and then go find evidence for them. They only really listen to people who already agree with them. That's why MRAs come to places where other MRAs will pretty much agree with them. That's why we keep hearing about social media as echo chambers. We also learn that every group who disagrees with u…
/r/MensRights21/11/19 11:51 PM
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Far as I can tell, the biggest problem MRAs have with feminists is hypocrisy. Do as I say, not as I do. So many want men to have to make all kinds of changes, while women shouldn't have to make any at all. It should be fine for women to continue to expect the same special treatment they've always received - benevolent sexism, while men should dot every i and cross every t to meet feminist expectations. And, men should SHUT UP about the benevolent sexism women expect. Fuck that, and fuck the femi…
/r/MensRights21/11/19 11:07 PM
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My point was, I don't support using the Men's Rights sub reddit to talk politics. So, if you want to go there, I'll go into the numerous reasons why Trump is a piece of shit. If that's what you want to talk about, instead of men's rights, then keep talking about politics.
/r/MensRights21/11/19 10:59 PM
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Uh, yeah, I agree with all of that. Did I say that men should put up with being hit anywhere? My point is that she's turning the completely sexist permission that women give themselves to hit men into discrimination against women. Buddy.
/r/MensRights21/11/19 10:50 PM
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Same here. I wouldn't punch the shit out of her, unless her level of aggression warranted that. Still got that BS treat-women-gently thing in me. But, I'd hit her hard enough to make her decide to never, ever hit me again.
/r/MensRights21/11/19 10:34 PM
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Yes, and by that same reasoning, it should be fine with women if children hit them, because when a child punches a woman, it's like absolutely nothing. So, women are going to let children hit them, because children are weaker? I think not. And, there are guys I could hit who probably wouldn't much notice that I'd hit them. That doesn't mean they should have to put up with it, that I should be protected from being hit back by them. That's some gynocentric BS women and feminists put out there so t…
/r/MensRights21/11/19 10:31 PM
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I had that little nugget of internalized misogyny in me. That little peice of my mind that still believed that because I was a girl, nothing i did could hurt a boy. I love how women turn toxic femininity into misogyny! It's not that he's expected to put up with it without complaining; it's that she thought so little of herself that she couldn't believe she could hurt him. That means it's men's fault (ALL misogyny comes from men.) that women can hit men and get away with it.
/r/MensRights21/11/19 10:27 PM
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From what I've read, the largest part of it is due to the different choices men and women make. And, I can't help but think the fact that women choose men for money has to be a major, under-appreciated factor. We see that marriage is declining because women find men more and more economically unattractive. I worry that they'll pass laws mandating equal pay despite the fact that men work harder and longer, while men still have to work harder and longer to make the same money that women do for not…
/r/MensRights31/10/19 07:57 PM
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Yes, and look how things are going with about a thousandth of that. We're causing mass extinctions now.
/r/MensRights31/10/19 07:46 PM
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You're right. I totally overlooked that you were annoyed by the expectation placed on your husband. My bad. I was all self-righteous about the notion that women feel demeaned when they're not expected to pay. Wrong.
/r/MensRights31/10/19 07:42 PM
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Misogyny: ONE:Women, in my life, have shown much more antipathy towards men than vice versa. They find misogyny under every rock because they're projecting. It's a major part of the well-studied in-group bias among women. TWO: Most of the real misogyny that does exist is in reaction to the overwhelming misandry men have faced in all media, for the past 50 years. It's hard for men to feel good about a group that has nothing good to say about men. (Took me a while to spot that /S.)
/r/MensRights31/10/19 07:34 PM
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Yeah, I hate those outer lips on women. They should cut them off at birth! Unsightly, and unsanitary.
/r/MensRights30/10/19 03:38 AM
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You get what you put up with, often enough.
/r/MensRights30/10/19 03:37 AM
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It took you this long to wonder what MRAs think?! MOST LIKELY that means you already have very deep feminist beliefs and you're going to choose to continue to believe most of them, and dismiss most of what the men here have to say. You're going to go away, sure that the over-privileged men here are just pissed off that our privileges are being taken away. If you don't take that out, you're going to go away thinking that men might have a few issues, but nothing in compare to what women have faced…
/r/MensRights30/10/19 02:14 AM
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The funny thing is, some guys will go on about how lucky a young guy in that situation is, because young guys are generally very interested in sex. And, for most guys, getting sex is much harder than it is for women, so they think there's no down side. But, fact is, most just aren't emotionally ready for something like that with an adult woman, and it screws them up.
/r/MensRights30/10/19 01:59 AM
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Ya' gotta do what you think is right. But, most people don't get what they're doing to others until the same thing is done to them. I did see a Marcus Aurelius 'meditation' about how the best revenge is to not do the same thing your adversaries do. IOW, don't sink to their level. You're a better man than I, Gunga Din!
/r/MensRights30/10/19 01:47 AM
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It can't. The cultural norm, at this point, is that women are victims, and men victimizers. It's simply too hard for reporters to treat victims with the same severity that they treat victimizers. It simply feels wrong to them, somehow.
/r/MensRights30/10/19 01:42 AM
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I don't think people caught that for the sarcasm I took it to be.
/r/MensRights30/10/19 01:40 AM
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Yes, if convicted, she might get a prison sentence of a few months. See, the reason older guys get much harsher sentences than older women is because they've stolen somebody's property. IOW, the real victim is the father of the teenage girl who had sex with an adult man. According to some feminists. But, you won't see them advocating for harsher sentences for adult women who consort with boys.
/r/MensRights30/10/19 01:38 AM
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By that reasoning, no one should have anything at all to do with other people.
/r/MensRights30/10/19 01:32 AM
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Why would a guy report something that he would be ridiculed for, and disbelieved for anyway? If it was homosexual rape, what straight guy wants that known?
/r/MensRights30/10/19 01:30 AM
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Because false accusations are a power play that feminists themselves like to use on a regular basis they don't actually care about real rape victims. Nah. I think college-age, true-believer feminists care a great deal about rape. They actually believe that when a drunk man and a drunk women have consenting sex, where the woman actively participates, the man has raped the woman. They actually believe that, if a man coaxes a woman into having sex, he has raped her. They actually believe that, if a…
/r/MensRights30/10/19 01:21 AM
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Yes, because it makes people question the directive to "Believe all women." Still, you won't see any feminists calling for women who make false accusations to be imprisoned. That would deter women from making truthful accusations. See, we have to protect women over men, despite what happens to men who are falsely accused.
/r/MensRights30/10/19 01:14 AM
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From time to time somebody posts a list of gender issues that men face on here. Find such a list. Just tell people you're interested in men's rights and read off the list of why. Me, I wouldn't say a word about feminism, other than to express gratitude to feminists for opening your eyes about the fact that we expect men and women to do things simply based on gender. If you criticize feminism, you will be crucified. If you don't, you might get some people to actually hear what you're saying, with…
/r/MensRights30/10/19 01:04 AM
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Yeah, she's striking a blow for the freedom of women everywhere!! I actually saw an article by some woman a month or so ago, where she was saying it was unfair for women to be seen as less selfish and generally evil than men. It put unfair expectations on them, didn't allow them to be as human as men. IF there's a way to construe a situation as somehow harming women, even if it's only one woman, and even if guys are harmed in the thousands, some woman will find it. Gynocentrism strikes again.
/r/MensRights30/10/19 12:54 AM
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Please. You get to think what you like. So does everybody else. Me deciding what anybody else should think and do is, most of the time, pointless. In this case, some (presumably) fed-up guy expressing a general dissatisfaction with women doesn't offend me even a little. Women are saying a lot worse about men, and that's fine with most women.
/r/MensRights30/10/19 12:49 AM
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No, it doesn't treat women like infants. It treats men as being expected to pay. Have you ever looked in on the FemaleDatingStrategy sub reddit? What percentage of women do you think object to the notion that men are expected to pay for women?
/r/MensRights30/10/19 12:36 AM
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Yes, poor you. What percentage of women do you think are going to be upset that men are expected to pay?
/r/MensRights30/10/19 12:33 AM
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You really think they're not going to hand a single woman, or 2 women together the menus with prices?
/r/MensRights30/10/19 12:32 AM
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Google it. It's everywhere.
/r/MensRights30/10/19 12:29 AM
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Nah. It means the restaurant, from long, long experience, knows that the man will be paying.
/r/MensRights30/10/19 12:28 AM
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YES! That would be the epitome of gynocentrism. Guys dying, so that their women could be safe, is less important than the fact that those women have been deprived of those dead men. How completely selfish of those men!!!
/r/MensRights30/10/19 12:24 AM
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Gynocentrism, is what this is. Men being expected to pay somehow discriminates against women, because everything is about women. MGTOW, for the peace and quiet.
/r/MensRights30/10/19 12:22 AM
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The obvious implication is that men are expected to pay. Yet, some women found this to be still more discrimination against women. I begin to appreciate the term 'gynocentrism' more and more.
/r/MensRights30/10/19 12:19 AM
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What women deserve from men is exactly what men deserve from women: nothing.
/r/MensRights30/10/19 12:15 AM
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Let's see, now? What percentage of women think men are pretty shady? vs. What percentage of men think women are pretty shady? Project much?
/r/MensRights30/10/19 12:11 AM
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MGTOW. Give 'em what they're asking for! Everybody is happier, and the Earth is healthier!
/r/MensRights30/10/19 12:09 AM
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You really had better stay away from the MGTOW sub reddit, if that mild little opinion has you all self-righteous!
/r/MensRights30/10/19 12:03 AM
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There are 7.7 BILLION of us, now. It will be better for the Earth if we stop having children for a while.
/r/MensRights30/10/19 12:01 AM
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I think Katy Perry has been accused at least twice. It was in the news for a few days. Then it went away.
/r/MensRights29/10/19 11:59 PM
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Yes, and those women traded sex for roles, too. How many women in Hollywood do you think traded sex for some favor? But, now they're victims, instead of prostitutes.
/r/MensRights29/10/19 11:56 PM
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Attributed to Joseph Goebbels: A lie told once remains a lie, but a lie told a thousand times becomes the truth.
/r/MensRights29/10/19 11:54 PM
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But, women are now feeling punished because men are refusing to be alone with them on the job, and alone in business-related settings such as travel. It's not because men are rightfully protecting themselves, you understand. It's because men, as a group, are upset that we can no longer get away with harassing and assaulting women. IOW, it's always and everywhere about women, to women.
/r/MensRights29/10/19 11:53 PM
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You really want to bring up politics?! IMPEACH THE BASTARD!!! Just saying.
/r/MensRights29/10/19 11:46 PM
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In other words, MGTOW. Too damned many people on the Earth anyway!
/r/MensRights29/10/19 11:43 PM
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What I really don't get is how men can continue to think it won't happen to them, when 50% of marriages end in divorce (higher than that for 2nd marriage!), with most of those initiated by women.
/r/MensRights29/10/19 11:40 PM
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Yeah, that's misandry, straight up. By that reasoning, everybody who's not a mass-murderer benefits by the fact that mass-murderers are hated.
/r/MensRights29/10/19 10:47 PM
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100% of the time unironic use of "Toxic Masculinity" always translated to "I hate men!". I think that's correct, often enough. As I said, I think that women characteristically do things that could be thought of as toxic femininity, were our culture more willing to look at women critically. So, I'm bigoted about women, too. I'm bigoted about every group I don't belong to, and I suspect that most people think negative things about other groups. I think that's our nature. They say we started out as…
/r/MensRights25/10/19 02:30 AM
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Not having more details, I envisioned a mixed gender group of people. And, I have the idea that some young guys who think they're pretty woke could see some older guy trying to tell them things, without any evidence of actual expertise - because they didn't allow him to present it, something about which they presumed themselves more knowledgeable, as being a typical older white male who is what's wrong with the world. Or even some young woman shutting him down, with murmurs of assent, head nods,…
/r/MensRights25/10/19 01:22 AM
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See, now, you think there are actual rules for when men can be said to be mansplaining, and that absolutely everybody follows them to the letter.
/r/MensRights25/10/19 01:12 AM
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Yeah, I really like how you thought that through, and explained your thinking so carefully, so convincingly. I stand in awe. There are things that are more true of men on average. There are other things that are more true of women, on average. Nobody said that every "on average" difference is a sign of toxic masculinity. The fact that you can point to one of those doesn't prove that there's absolutely nothing that men do more, on average, that's toxic. Fact is, you don't like the notion of toxic…
/r/MensRights25/10/19 01:08 AM
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That, I believe, is what it comes down to. She doesn't like the look of uncircumsized penises, so she wants them all cut. That, and some women don't want to support any men's issues, no matter how obviously justified. Thus, no man ever said anything worth listening to that didn't fully, and exclusively, support women.
/r/MensRights23/10/19 12:34 AM
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Wonder if she's ever gone down on a woman. By her reasoning, all women should have their labia cut off at birth.
/r/MensRights23/10/19 12:31 AM
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Menstrual equity?! Why is it that men are now supposed to further subsidize women's needs? What needs of men are women going to subsidize?
/r/MensRights23/10/19 12:19 AM
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BS. Most women believe in quite a number of basic feminist ideas. How many women do you know who think a woman's place is in the home? Those women are very much in the minority now.
/r/MensRights23/10/19 12:17 AM
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OP never said it was a woman. Just, a group of people. And, just about everybody here assumes only a woman would say that. I think lots of young, white guys think themselves all woke, and way cooler than old white guys. To me, it could've been anybody who doesn't think of themselves as an old, white, male caveman.
/r/MensRights23/10/19 12:10 AM
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Still older, white, and male. Jewish doesn't contradict any of that.
/r/MensRights23/10/19 12:08 AM
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OLD, white, and male. Honestly, I'm thinking it could very easily have been a young, white male who said that.
/r/MensRights23/10/19 12:07 AM
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He didn't describe them as a group of women; he said it was a group. You assume feminist. It might just as easily have been a young white male who said that, thinking he was all woke.
/r/MensRights23/10/19 12:05 AM
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It might've been cool if he'd shown them his license and suggested that they google his name.
/r/MensRights23/10/19 12:03 AM
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Most women are highly influenced by feminists. There are feminists who are very extreme, and there are women who wouldn't call themselves 'feminists', but still believe very much in women's rights, You Go, Girl!, etc., etc. There's a huge overlap.
/r/MensRights22/10/19 11:55 PM
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Nah. Women hear nothing but bad shit about men, so they pretty much hate us. It's very like the Right reading nothing but bad things about the Left, and vice versa. It's our group vs. their group, and for absolutely everybody, our group is good, their group is bad.
/r/MensRights22/10/19 11:53 PM
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The problem is, if men legitimately complain about circumcision, it detracts from the victimhood attention that women receive. They don't like that. Far as I know, a lot more boys have their genitals mutilated than girls.
/r/MensRights22/10/19 11:50 PM
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For as long as men are willing to offer up goods, services, and money to women, there will be women willing to use those men. This should surprise no man, at this late date.
/r/MensRights22/10/19 11:47 PM
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Yup. We're all scum. Go marry a woman, go to a sperm bank (abort it if fetus is male), and live your life. Be happy.
/r/MensRights22/10/19 11:41 PM
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Misogyny justifies misandry, but not the other way around.
/r/MensRights22/10/19 11:31 PM
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???? So, are they also going to make it a point to make toilet paper free for everybody? I mean, everybody uses it, so shouldn't it be free? Yes, this is a cost that affects women. How does that mean that men should have to subsidize women? What costs that men primarily bear are women going to subsidize us for?
/r/MensRights22/10/19 11:26 PM
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Really, I don't understand your statement/request. Simply read what's in this sub. That. and go read the female dating strategy subreddit, to see what we're up against.
/r/MensRights22/10/19 10:51 PM
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I find it interesting that such women never explain why they should never have to pay on a date. It's like a guy saying he should never have to make his own meal, or clean his own house. And, I'd have to guess that such women would be outraged by a man saying something like that.
/r/MensRights22/10/19 10:42 PM
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"There is no "Toxically masculine" behavior that doesn't also apply to women..." Nah. There's behavior that's a lot more characteristic of men than it is of women, and vice versa. And, society does exist, as a collection of people's ideas and values, just as individuals exist as a collection of cells. And, I do think toxic femininity is a thing that doesn't get much recognition. But, women do screwed up things that are more characteristic of women, even though men are able to do many of them. Yo…
/r/MensRights18/10/19 11:57 PM
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SOMEWHAT RELATED: I saw this recently, posted by someone in the manosphere. BELIEVE ALL WOMEN means the exact same thing as ALL MEN LIE.
/r/MensRights12/10/19 01:02 AM
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This is never popular, but abortions aren't seen as causing death, because it's accepted, fairly popular death. So, not really death. Last I saw, there are something over a half million such deaths per year. Compared to the number of people who die in mass shootings, that's astronomical.
/r/MensRights12/10/19 12:51 AM
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A) They generalize to all men at the same time that they don't want the bad actions of some women generalized to all women. B) They completely ignore the fact that it's almost all men who step up to protect them from mass shooters, and they ignore the discrimination involved in their expectation that men take on that role.
/r/MensRights12/10/19 12:49 AM
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Y'all can go fuck yourselves with generalizations about baby boomers.
/r/MensRights12/10/19 12:46 AM
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I'm guessing this could be from a class on gender, on what our culture thinks the male brain is all about. Out of context, it's hard to make a whole lot from it. Of course, if it's presented as some kind of accurate description, it's incredibly demeaning.
/r/MensRights12/10/19 12:43 AM
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In other news, women want different rules and laws for men and women. That's the only way men and women can ever be equal.
/r/MensRights12/10/19 12:38 AM
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I think it exists. The same way internalized misogyny can exist for women, men can do pretty screwed up things when trying to live up to what our society expects of men. What that says, though, is that it's no more the fault of men than the fact that women value themselves so highly based on how they look, and how they can parlay that into a relationship with a wealthy man. We do create each other; that's what social animals do.
/r/MensRights12/10/19 12:34 AM
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I suspect that such comments happen because men believe the idea that men want sex all the time, based on how often they themselves can't have it when they want it. Myself, I remember being completely unprepared to deal with girls in high school (US) who made it plain that I was their idea of boyfriend material. The idea of having to deal with a full-grown woman cornering me for sex - yeah, that probably would've been traumatic. All this at the same time that I thought I really, really wanted se…
/r/MensRights12/10/19 12:24 AM
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Plenty of men will delusionally appease feminists because they incorrectly think it'll give them a leg up getting laid. Now, I'm just offering up an opinion, here. I think male feminists buy it all, that women are severely disadvantaged by sexism. If that's true, then it's better to look at what's true than to comfort ourselves that male feminists DON'T believe what they and female feminists espouse, that, instead, the men are just doing to to get laid. So, if there's any convincing evidence tha…
/r/MensRights12/10/19 12:02 AM
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aah, but equal pay DOES mean paying everybody the same. If it favors women, it's popular. Especially if it discriminates against men.
/r/MensRights11/10/19 10:16 PM
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See, now, she should've assaulted a boy instead. Then she'd either get off entirely, or receive a sentence of a few months.
/r/MensRights11/10/19 10:13 PM
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Yeah, in the end, it means that the people who don't agree are brainwashed.
/r/MensRights02/10/19 06:41 AM
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I'd suggest doing a search on that to get a clearer idea. My understanding is, a woman who tends to agree with male viewpoints, and maybe especially MRA viewpoints over those of self-avowed feminists' viewpoints is seen as showing internalized misogyny.
/r/MensRights02/10/19 06:23 AM
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Yeah, my 'rant' was about crystallizing what seems to be the single biggest cause of resistance men have to feminism. If they actually wanted equality, and not simply 'equality' where that suits them, most men would be very supportive. I was looking at why it is that women/feminists have so much problem with simply adhering to general rules for everybody about gender. So often, we're not supposed to notice when women show all kinds of gender discrimination. And, it's some kind of misogyny to poi…
/r/MensRights02/10/19 06:20 AM
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Yes. And, that's why not real equality. Women claim to want it, but don't want to abide by the same rules they want men to adhere to, for one example. They claim to want equality, but don't want to think about having to change what they're expected from men for eons, for another example.
/r/MensRights02/10/19 06:14 AM
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Yeah, it's one of an endless series of privileges.
/r/MensRights02/10/19 05:59 AM
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Sorry, I don't think you're out to demean men. But, I don't think men are clueless. It's one of the common characterizations of men. Our focus is elsewhere. What we focus on, we're not clueless about. But, men are often ridiculed because our focus is different from that of women, by women - you know, those women who have so much to say about misogyny.
/r/MensRights02/10/19 05:57 AM
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Arnold - you know, THE Arnold, said about half the women he ran into were impressed, with the other half horrified. He used to casually give out with a flex to enhance the effect on those who were horrified.
/r/MensRights02/10/19 05:46 AM
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You could be accused of misandry. And, lots of people would tell you that that's no more possible than a black person actually being racist, because women are seen as having held no power in Western culture, despite the fact that there were queens, that women actually hold more wealth than men (men die sooner and leave wealth to women), that many laws, along with the implementation of those laws favor women, and the fact that women are a slim majority, and not a minority. Feminists try to draw p…
/r/MensRights02/10/19 05:19 AM
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Yes. Sorry, I agree with that one. Blacks can be as prejudiced as any white person who thinks black people are some kind of sub-human. From what I've read, black people, as a group, have little love for white people. But, the idea of racism is that the group that holds the power, who populates the higher levels of corporations, who comprise the great majority of the wealthy, who are the people in political positions of power, of law enforcement, of the media, can use that position to systemize t…
/r/MensRights02/10/19 04:36 AM
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I suspect you would be criticized as showing evidence of internalized misogyny. People are sheep. I've been thinking that that's at least as much one of our strengths as it is a weakness, despite the bad that we hear about it. It means we recognize how much we need each other people, how much we actually create, and are created by other people. But, it also means that there's correct thinking, and woe be unto anyone who thinks otherwise. Conform or suffer the consequences. Be well.
/r/MensRights02/10/19 04:07 AM
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I wish you were part of a reasonable majority of feminists. But, it's good to know that I really have to be very, very careful to not generalize about all feminists. Honestly, I think most MRAs would have no problem at all with supporting your ideas about what women need.
/r/MensRights02/10/19 03:53 AM
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Men have become the all-purpose scapegoat for women. Every problem that women face is seen as being somehow caused by or. at the very least, exacerbated by men. That viewpoint is inculcated into women by a general female culture that endlessly looks to find evidence and examples to prove that point. Anyone who questions it is a misogynist, or a victim of internalized misogyny. This is female group think that they've worked endlessly to convert to a general cultural group think. Again, I think th…
/r/MensRights02/10/19 03:49 AM
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And, again, women continually tell us they dress for other women. It's other women that they need to change. Again, they do that by scapegoating males. We are very useful that way. Nothing sexist about that, because only men can be sexist. Everybody knows that. Part of the reason everybody knows that is because they never stop interpreting things in terms of sexism and misogyny. The fact that women pay higher fees is more evidence of that sexism and misogyny. Pointing out that women choose how t…
/r/MensRights02/10/19 03:32 AM
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Women continually tell us that they dress for other women. So, it's other women they need to talk to about those uncomfortable shoes. When they do, though, they put it in terms of demeaning male expectations. One of the functions of any opposing group is to be able to blame them for everything our group doesn't like about life.
/r/MensRights02/10/19 03:25 AM
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And, how many women do you think are going to speak up and tell anybody at all that there's absolutely nothing sexist about women managing their spending so as to pay more fees? Very, very few. You will probably be the only one you know.
/r/MensRights02/10/19 03:14 AM
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Women know that men are privileged, so they have little problem overlooking a few male disadvantages here and there - that men obviously deserve. No group has trouble believing that their group deserves it's advantages, and that they opposing group deserves their disadvantages. Almost everything unfairly benefits the opposing group so, if once in a long while the opposing group has a disadvantage, that can be safely overlooked. And men obviously deserve it.
/r/MensRights02/10/19 03:11 AM
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It's systematic sexism. Not, on the face of it, overtly sexist. But, sexism based on the underlying, but omnipresent, victimization of women. When women read and hear that often enough, they believe it. This is just more evidence to confirm what they've heard and read over and over again.
/r/MensRights02/10/19 03:06 AM
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Ok, too strongly stated for your tastes. NOT an enemy that we need to literally go to war with. They are the opposition, and they see men, as a group, as the opposition. An ideological struggle, if that's more what you need to hear. It's a zero-sum game, as constructed by women. It should always have been win-win, but feminists discovered they couldn't motivate enough women to support their cause with that ideology, and they actually decided to make men the enemy. No, I can't point to the eviden…
/r/MensRights02/10/19 02:35 AM
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Women, as a group - not necessarily all of the individuals we know, are encouraged, and encourage each other, to see absolutely everything in terms of women. "How can I interpret this in a way that could, and should, be improved to make me, as a woman, happy?" Because, you see, men are highly privileged, and it's only right to see the world completely in terms of women, to right the historical sin of the male species. If it's not optimized for women, it's a fault, and it's sexist...and men are, …
/r/MensRights02/10/19 02:33 AM
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Women do better and receive more handouts commensurately with their ability to convince each other, and the men who believe them, that they are victims.
/r/MensRights01/10/19 11:51 PM
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Really, it's this simple "A lie told once remains a lie but a lie told a thousand times becomes the truth." You see it happening before your very eyes.
/r/MensRights01/10/19 11:22 PM
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It's all propaganda. The more women can point to discrimination, even when it isn't discrimination, the more they receive special considerations of all kinds - considerations that men don't receive. More and more, men will be forced to earn what women are given, while people become more and more blind to what's expected of men that isn't expected of women. And, because women keep piling on, our culture will continue to try to find ways to appease them, to make them 'equal'. And, men will pay for…
/r/MensRights01/10/19 11:19 PM
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Women are quite happy to receive whatever benefits feminism will bring them. There's a huge overlap between feminism and women in general, despite the fact that many women don't consider themselves feminists. Today's extreme feminist is tomorrow's woman who doesn't particularly think of herself as a feminist. I'm delusional? That's your best argument? Come back if you ever have something useful to add.
/r/MensRights01/10/19 11:18 PM
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Go do the better shit, and let others do as they see fit. If we don't mobilize men against a common enemy, we will lose. In the end, the extra money that women want will come from men. That's why men need to resist the propaganda of the wage gap.
/r/MensRights01/10/19 11:05 PM
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Mark my words; this is part of the ammunition that feminists, and women in general, are amassing to propagandize for equal outcomes regarding pay, instead of equal opportunity. They'll give them tax breaks that will come out of the people who do earn more. And that will be men. Women will receive a gift from this, eventually, and it will be men who have to pay for it.
/r/MensRights01/10/19 11:02 PM
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DIDN'T READ ENTIRE POST. BUT, very, very good...actually, essential post. about what believing women means. Believing women, no questions asked, unavoidably means disbelieving men. Excellent talking point, for the next time somebody - usually a woman, tells us that women should be believed. What can such a person say other than to reaffirm that, yes, men are usually liars. How is that not misandry, gender discrimination? What could such a person say that doesn't reveal the inherent misandry?
/r/MensRights30/09/19 08:59 PM
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Yes, we need to get women to do a lot better, but without ruining their children't life in the process. It can't be either/or. You see such women as completely evil. Either/or thinking again. Most of the people I know are pretty decent, but sometimes have pretty definite faults. We see people being very, very divided politically, now, and ready to see the people who oppose them as being really stupid, really evil, or both. Many, maybe most, of us are susceptible to that thinking, and I begin to …
/r/MensRights23/09/19 03:08 PM
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It won't stop career criminals, people committed to that life. But, it has every chance of stopping some guy who's aiming at the deep end, might shoot up a bunch of people and thereby become a criminal.
/r/MensRights23/09/19 03:01 PM
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Agreed, not on point. But, when people bring up the wonders of small government (I see lots of signs of conservatives in this sub reddit.), I like to point out whose interest small government is in.
/r/MensRights23/09/19 02:58 PM
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Most women hold a lot of feminist-influenced beliefs, even if they don't think of themselves as feminist. This whole equal pay issue is hugely feminism influenced.
/r/MensRights23/09/19 05:24 AM
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The thing is, women can earn more, and choose not to. From what I can see, women earn what they're willing to work to earn. But, they're pissed that men are willing to do more, and so earn more. That feels like discrimination to them, when it isn't. They want to do less than men, but still earn the same amount. THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO MAKE THE SAME CHOICES THAT MEN HAVE TO MAKE, TO EARN MORE MONEY. Like, they don't think it's fair that they want to stay home with their children, but don't ear…
/r/MensRights23/09/19 05:15 AM
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Ok, this makes sense if very few women were hired in the past if there's reason to believe that women can do the job equally well if a reasonable number of skilled women applied for the positions If the admonition to hire people based on skill alone has simply been an excuse to hire men exclusively. If any of these aren't true, then she's the one who needs to shut up, shut up, shut up.
/r/MensRights23/09/19 04:48 AM
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So, women should start their own media companies, and hire whoever the hell they want. If they go with exclusively female writers, maybe they'll do better than companies that hire both sexes, or a larger number of males. Maybe they won't. But, either way, they'd have to stop complaining. I hope to live to see the day. Me, I'm totally sexist. I read a fair amount of novels, and I mostly avoid female writers, because I'd rather read about male points of view. Just, it seems, the way women seem to …
/r/MensRights23/09/19 04:27 AM
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I think you might have explained something that everybody already understood. But, I may be mistaken.
/r/MensRights23/09/19 04:21 AM
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So, if men don't show attention to women, and women feel bad, that's men's fault. Notice how, when women don't show attraction to men, that's also men's fault. There's a pattern here.
/r/MensRights23/09/19 04:10 AM
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Guys: go check out MGTOW. There is reason to think they're doing us a favor by not finding us acceptable.
/r/MensRights23/09/19 04:06 AM
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I wondered how many fetuses are killed each year by women. So, I looked it up. Over a million per year in the US alone. Gee, when you total all that up, world wide, that sounds like it might easily exceed all the deaths from WWII. But, those are popular, socially acceptable deaths. So, not even really deaths. And, we just read recently that some significant portion of sudden-infant-death syndrome deaths are actually murders, most commonly committed by women. Not to mention the men killed by othe…
/r/MensRights23/09/19 03:45 AM
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/r/MensRights23/09/19 03:24 AM
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I always think that people with major concerns about government interference and tyranny are on the Right, and listen to Fox News. Far as I can see, small weak governments allow large corporations to run roughshod over people. So, such organizations fund outlets like Fox to get a lot of people afraid of big governments, to give themselves more power to fleece us. At least we get to elect the government people who take advantage of us - the ones that the rich pre-select for us, that is. So, choos…
/r/MensRights23/09/19 03:03 AM
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Canada is independent and, aside from the French people that settled there, does NOT owe it's existence to France. It's likely that that would've happened with the US as well.
/r/MensRights23/09/19 02:54 AM
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You mean, the way Canada does?
/r/MensRights23/09/19 02:52 AM
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I see your point. But, if you make a mother absolutely destitute, then the state must pay to support her, or take away the child. I'll bet dollars to donuts (a phrase from when donuts cost a lot less than a dollar) that foster children don't thrive the way children do with their natural parents, barring truly horrendous natural parents. My family had a few foster children. My family should not have had foster children.
/r/MensRights23/09/19 02:51 AM
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Yes. In some states, after 2 years, it doesn't matter what the DNA test shows. The man is legally held responsible to continue supporting the child. There ARE some areas where women are privileged, but they don't get a lot of media play.
/r/MensRights23/09/19 02:36 AM
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The only issue of unfairness is, as Chapelle put it publicly, is that women can abort children but, once it comes to term, some man is responsible to help financially support it. Men can't opt out, the way women can. Some guy biologically fathered that child. That's the one who should be held responsible. As much as a woman may cheat and lie, the actual father may have reasons to cheat and lie. Admittedly, there are many, many actual fathers out there who were never told they're the actual fathe…
/r/MensRights23/09/19 02:31 AM
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And, you just pulled that right out of yours.
/r/MensRights23/09/19 02:22 AM
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People are, often enough, corrupt. IF they weren't, then the government, which is made up of people, wouldn't be. Small government just lets more powerful corporations get away with fleecing people more. That's why the rich are always telling you that small governments are so wonderful, because they have far more power when the government has very little.
/r/MensRights23/09/19 02:21 AM
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So, you watch Fox News regularly?
/r/MensRights23/09/19 02:18 AM
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So, what are their views on property? If all land is communally held, for instance, then there's no issue of passing it on to children. Actually, that seems to remind me that it was when we began to hold individual property as humans, that paternity, and therefore virginity in women, became an issue. Far as I know, it's hypothesized that people were very tribal once upon a time - wandering hunter/gatherers, before agriculture and land ownership became a thing. If that's accurate, than it might n…
/r/MensRights23/09/19 02:16 AM
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Well, there was an actual, biological father who may not want it known either. The woman may have been completely unattached, and so, cheated on nobody at all. The actual father may have a family, and a wife he cheated on. It's not just women who will be caught cheating by this.
/r/MensRights23/09/19 02:11 AM
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You guys are all forgetting about the actual father who may not want it known that he's the father. Some guy impregnates a 17-year-old, or a drug addict who's more than happy to have some kind of income.
/r/MensRights23/09/19 02:03 AM
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The actual biological father may have just as much reason to not want to be found out.
/r/MensRights23/09/19 02:02 AM
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You're overlooking the guy who cheats on his wife and impregnates someone looking for a meal ticket.
/r/MensRights23/09/19 02:01 AM
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Cheaters, both male and female, can be expected to oppose DNA testing. A woman who hooks up with a young, attractive bum, while married to a husband pulling in 6 figures. A man who cheats on his wife and impregnates, worse case, an addict looking for a meal ticket.
/r/MensRights23/09/19 02:00 AM
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It affects everybody involved - if the woman is a liar.
/r/MensRights23/09/19 01:52 AM
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Search France > Paternity testing
/r/MensRights23/09/19 01:51 AM
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Fact is, it's a lot more plausible that boys be instructed to stand in front of the girls than the other way around. That's the context for the judgments of female and feminist hypocrisy by people here.
/r/MensRights23/09/19 01:01 AM
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If the bad people ever come over the hill, meaning fighting on American soil, it will be a damn small minority of feminists, much less women as a whole, who demand the right to be on the front lines.
/r/MensRights23/09/19 12:59 AM
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You might be right. But, we'd be absolutely certain it was fake if we were told that the girls were instructed to stand in front of the boys. It's plausible that boys are still instructed that girls' lives are more important than boys', at least in isolated places and times. Women still aren't forced to sign up for the draft, while men are. Women have never been made to feel like they should give up their lives for men, while millions upon millions of men have been made to feel like women are pr…
/r/MensRights23/09/19 12:55 AM
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Yeah, I fucking hate Trump, so I voted for Hillary. But, I hated it when she said that women and children have always been the primary victims of wars. I wonder how many women have been killed protecting men in the last 10,000 years vs. the reverse.
/r/MensRights23/09/19 12:49 AM
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That's some sick, sexist shit. The really annoying thing is, if you talk about that anyplace but a sub reddit like this, you're some whining man-boy who wants women to stay in the kitchen and make him a sandwich. Calling out the hypocrisy is seen as misogyny.
/r/MensRights23/09/19 12:46 AM
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You threaten to kill somebody - no gun. You violently assault somebody - no gun. I'm not talking you get into a fight at a bar. I'm talking you keep getting into fights at bars, and keep getting jailed for it. Like that. No, that won't stop career criminals, but it will stop some of the violent crazies out there - most of them white supremacists, these days.
/r/MensRights23/09/19 12:43 AM
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Maybe, just maybe, this could happen in a high school (US). There, the boys are old enough that some really old school, as it were, type was encouraging them to chivalrous courage. I mean, we still mostly only send males off to war, and most women will be happy to have men fighting and dying to protect them if war ever breaks out on American soil, all the while they go on about how privileged men are. But, I have a very hard time believing that this actually happened on a large scale where the b…
/r/MensRights23/09/19 12:36 AM
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Together with the fact that women physically abuse men more than men abuse women. I couldn't believe the stats until I kept seeing them. Enjoy your privilege, guys!
/r/MensRights22/09/19 11:30 PM
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They don't like men becoming militant about equality going both ways. It fucks with their notions of how men should act. Men should be nice guys, and do what women want, all the while women never stop looking under every rock to tell us we're privileged. What goes around comes around - and they don't like it.
/r/MensRights22/09/19 11:16 PM
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Actually, I have MGTOW leanings. So, ignore 'em. If they like that better, then fine. But, really, I think some are going to be disappointed if men ignore them.
/r/MensRights21/09/19 02:21 PM
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Good. We should stay unattractive. There's a 50% chance we'll wind up divorced anyway, with the great majority initiated by women. Lose home, visitations rights to women lying about DV, and half of wealth, despite the fact that men earn more of it. And, of marriages that don't end in divorce, quite a number are sexless. Stay unmarried, don't have children, and do the Earth a favor.
/r/MensRights19/09/19 09:58 PM
1

Our (US ) saintly founding fathers didn't give people who didn't own land the right to vote. We should stop revering them as some kind of saints. The common man didn't receive the right to vote until after the Civil War, when Congress decided that the men who had fought in the war should be able to vote. So, as people say, women were given what men had to earn by risking their lives. That's not something any feminist will ever bring up when they talk about the suffragettes.
/r/MensRights19/09/19 09:53 PM
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From what I've seen, most feminists think that men's issues are so minor, so few and far between, that they warrant no attention whatsoever. And, they really don't care if the same thing happens to men that they are outraged by, when they happen to women. In short, men should just shut up and listen. So, in theory, feminism is about equality, but they focus exclusively on finding everything that harms women, however small it is, while they pretty much ignore anything that happens to men.
/r/MensRights19/09/19 09:46 PM
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I saw the same thing recently in my local library, pushing romance novel month. Fabio, shirtless, with a bunch of obviously female hands reaching up his legs. I pointed out how much people would like it if it were some hot woman in a bikini, with a bunch of male hands reaching up, pawing her. Of course, it was still there next time I went in. Only men are capable of gender crimes, obviously.
/r/MensRights19/09/19 09:30 PM
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50% chance of being divorced, with vast majority initiated by women. Countless sex-dead marriages. Guys, WTF would any man in his right mind want to marry in the first place? Answer: men aren't in their right minds when they want to get married. And, how many are pressured into it by family and women, who want their once-in-a-lifetime, $40,000 party? Find something better to do with your lives than chase women. Stop believing the cultural myth that everybody has a "right one" out there someplace…
/r/MensRights19/09/19 09:25 PM
1

More misandry. Women who like hanging out with their friend more than sex - no problem. It's only a problem if men don't want sex when women decide it's time.
/r/MensRights19/09/19 09:13 PM
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I dunno. You could say, "Hey guys!", to a mixed group of people and, when someone calls you on it, just say you were only talking to the guys.
/r/MensRights19/09/19 09:09 PM
1

Really, there is so much misandry from women, from the media, from male feminists. Men are simply protecting themselves by drawing back , away from women. Women are beginning to realize that they do want things from us, and blaming us because we're protecting ourselves instead of continuing to take risks by putting ourselves in situations where they can harm us.
/r/MensRights14/09/19 12:47 AM
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I really liked the part where she tells us that women don't get to express their views, that nobody listens. DESPITE THAT, she magnanimously decided to listen to some of what men have to say. People really do believe what they like to believe, and seek out confirming sources. Tip: that's pretty much everybody.
/r/MensRights14/09/19 12:25 AM
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Violence and DV - that's where women are most definitely privileged. It's only a crime if men do it, or the man died - and then that's obviously because the woman was defending herself. We don't even need a witness to know that!
/r/MensRights10/09/19 04:12 AM
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Got me worried, blaming it all on Jews. Zeik Heil!
/r/MensRights10/09/19 03:58 AM
1

Actually, feminists do have the reason. It's 'cuz we're all privileged and we can't handle the privileges being taken away. We're all snowflakes, and Spring is coming.
/r/MensRights10/09/19 03:57 AM
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Yeah, I wonder how many women get yeast infections. Gross. Gotta cut all those labia off!!
/r/MensRights10/09/19 03:56 AM
1

Yeah, you were intellectually raped. I mean, you gave consent by signing up for that class, but then you changed your mind afterwards.
/r/MensRights10/09/19 03:31 AM
1

See, now, I think the problem with the world is that a very small minority of people run and own it. One reads things about 85 people owning more wealth than half the world's population. Last I knew that was over 3 1/2 BILLION people. 3 people owning more wealth than half of the people in the US. Can't reason with capitalists.
/r/MensRights10/09/19 03:27 AM
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I wish I could be around when the next generation of young people tells this generation of young people what their unthinking biases are. Because, inevitably you will be. So, don't congratulate yourself on how woke you are just yet.
/r/MensRights10/09/19 03:23 AM
1

Actually, at least some women seem to like being complimented. But, those women aren't about to speak up and defend any man who runs afoul of a women who's been complimented against her will. And, given that a guy can't know if a particular women will be offended, I would expect a lot fewer compliments from men to women. So it goes. We need fewer people on the Earth, anyway.
/r/MensRights10/09/19 03:08 AM
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What women do to men will never be any kind of social issue. Women have the victim market cornered. It's how they get all that entitlement.
/r/MensRights10/09/19 02:35 AM
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Love that. When men generalize about women, it's misogyny. When women generalize about men, and they do that endlessly (This is misogyny!), it's truthful. I could live with feminism if women weren't such hypocrites. (More misogyny.) Really, just as opposing groups almost always find the other to be the source of all evil, I suspect that most misogyny in these times is a direct result of the misandry they keep telling us doesn't exist.
/r/MensRights10/09/19 02:31 AM
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They outlawed that in France, right? I think they decided that it would be too disruptive of society in general if men actually know whose children they're supporting. If I have it right, it's fucking illegal for a man to know.
/r/MensRights10/09/19 02:03 AM
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All she would have to do is spend some time reading in this sub reddit.
/r/MensRights05/09/19 03:48 AM
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Again, aside from your garden variety the-other-is-the-cause-of-all-evil, most misogyny is in response to misandry. Another way to put it -they put it: their hatred is justified; ours is toxic masculinity.
/r/MensRights30/08/19 01:12 AM
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The only one who looks like she has a chance is Warren. I wouldn't be surprised if she has some views I'd object to but, overall, I'd WAY rather have her than 4 more years of the lying, temper-tantrum-throwing Asshole-in-Chief. And, it's been well over 200 years; I can't blame women on this one.
/r/MensRights30/08/19 01:09 AM
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No, you're not being sexist. Women really only want equality where it suits them. If it suits men, they're against it. It really is that simple.
/r/MensRights30/08/19 01:01 AM
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They;re women. OF COURSE they're more interested in their issues than they are in ours. That's true of just about everybody. Is it just? No. But, most people are much more interested in justice for themselves than for other people.
/r/MensRights30/08/19 12:59 AM
1

Good. MGTOW for the win. The planet could use several billion fewer people.
/r/MensRights30/08/19 12:56 AM
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Rules for men, freedom for women. That's the current idea of equality. But, hey, we're privileged
/r/MensRights30/08/19 12:53 AM
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Innocent until proven guilty. If and when she's proven guilty, all funds should be reimbursed. FAT chance, even if she is proven guilty.
/r/MensRights30/08/19 12:52 AM
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In other words, hypocrisy. I probably didn't think of this. but I believe most misogyny is in reaction to the misandry of women and their supporters.
/r/MensRights30/08/19 12:50 AM
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Although I hate to see women so irresponsible that they'll get 6 abortions, I'm marginally pro-choice. So, I don't support this guy. What I do support is male abortion. If women don't have to bear children, then men shouldn't have to support the children that women don't have to bear. FAT chance that will happen.
/r/MensRights30/08/19 12:43 AM
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Yeah, this would be one of those female privileges that aren't talked about - along with the whole notion that women have privileges.
/r/MensRights30/08/19 12:38 AM
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So long as they do the same for men in the courses that women dominate. AND, in college admissions overall, with women being about 60% of those in college. FAT chance!
/r/MensRights30/08/19 12:37 AM
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LOOK AROUND. Men are shamed and arrested for hitting back. Women aren't even shamed and arrested for hitting under any circumstances.
/r/MensRights26/08/19 01:39 AM
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With so much information about toxic masculinity, and how privileged men are, and how underprivileged women are, it seems to me that it will be a very long time before our culture has any interest in men's reproductive rights.
/r/MensRights26/08/19 01:32 AM
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Women want it more, so it costs more. Supply and demand.
/r/MensRights26/08/19 01:29 AM
1

I t won't hurt her for as long as she only assaults men.
/r/MensRights26/08/19 01:26 AM
1

Yes, but in a way that women approve of, and when a woman approves of it.
/r/MensRights26/08/19 01:05 AM
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Yes, but it doesn't bother women if Perry perves on men, so it's not really a problem.
/r/MensRights26/08/19 01:02 AM
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I have a hard time believing that lots of men would do full frontal nudity if women actually wanted to see that. Honestly, I don't think as many women are interested.
/r/MensRights26/08/19 12:54 AM
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As long as our culture wants to continue to take care of women - as it always has, by protecting them from the evils of the patriarchy - that's the latest way to take care of women, it really doesn't want to hear about how women are privileged. So, it closes its eyes to the facts that don't fit. Group think. The BBC is just going along with what our culture wants.
/r/MensRights26/08/19 12:46 AM
1

I think what would be even better is if Gillette goes broke.
/r/MensRights26/08/19 12:41 AM
1

Check out MGTOW, guys. Best thing for the planet if we stop making so many people.
/r/MensRights26/08/19 12:38 AM
1

Actually, I'd like to see them go right the fuck out of business. Boycott forEVAH!!
/r/MensRights26/08/19 12:34 AM
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The notion is that, since men are bigger and stronger, generally, women wouldn't attack men, because men are very able to defend themselves. They leave out the part where, when women assault, and men do nothing but report women for it, men are jailed 3 times as often. Women simply lie and say the man assaulted, and they defended themselves. He said/she said, the cops pretty much always protect the woman. And, quite a number of guys think a man who hits back should be arrested; they won't defend …
/r/MensRights10/08/19 06:59 PM
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Something simply doesn't add up. The police wouldn't allow him to simply leave (assuming somebody had to leave) when she assaulted him? The police wouldn't allow his children to stay with him, if she were arrested? I have to think we're not being told some of the essential details.
/r/MensRights10/08/19 06:55 PM
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The ratio of men to women in that store should've been in the OP. The gender and color of the person (people?) choosing the winner is another, important, missing item.
/r/MensRights10/08/19 06:41 PM
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My wife kept her own name. Didn't/doesn't bother me. Women have a choice. This woman wanted a choice, and now INSISTS THAT HER HUSBAND MAKE THE SAME CHOICE. IOW, she wants a choice, but doesn't want him to have one. More feminist equality.
/r/MensRights10/08/19 06:32 PM
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I'd have to wonder if they'll have any male musicians, roadies, or techs involved.
/r/MensRights10/08/19 06:26 PM
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My feelings don't matter? If I cared whether or not women bare their breasts at the beach in ANOTHER FUCKING COUNTRY THAT I'M NOT VERY LIKELY TO EVER VISIT, AND AS THOUGH I, AN AMERICAN, SHOULD HAVE SOME SAY IN THE MATTER, then I could see that as them being uncaring about my feelings. As it is, why the fuck would I go out of my way to see this as a problem that affects me, or anybody else I know? ​ BTW, bare breasts were allowed in beaches in Mexico. Other than as a matter of mild interest, it …
/r/MensRights10/08/19 06:20 PM
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So, the rampant polarization in our society is happening here, too. It can only make things better, obviously.
/r/MensRights10/08/19 06:08 PM
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Nah. There's simply more female input than you like. I'm all-in for Bernie but, while I've come to believe that feminism was necessary and inevitable, it's also inevitable that it would be highly discriminatory towards men. Quite a number of men here simply want the equality that feminism claims it favors; they don't have a problem with women having the rights and opportunities that they didn't have in the past. The problem, for me, and a lot of other men, is that too many women want their idea …
/r/MensRights10/08/19 06:06 PM
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By that reasoning, if a woman gets moist, she likes it. One reads that women can get wet during rape.
/r/MensRights29/07/19 07:45 PM
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Yes, all true. But, mostly, people don't care about humane treatment of prisoners, or their rights. Given limited funds, people want to see no more going towards prisoner treatment and welfare than their consciences dictate. And, it helps a lot that the vast majority of prisoners are male, because that makes it easier to ignore their plight. Fact is, it's entirely true, yet considered misogynistic to notice, and to point out, that prisoners can safely be treated inhumanely because they're mostly…
/r/MensRights20/07/19 03:19 PM
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Those managers know you opened up a can of worms for them. You're not on the popular side of that argument, from a culture-wide POV, so they treated you like the fly in the ointment. Mostly, they'd like people like you to simply go away.
/r/MensRights20/07/19 03:13 PM
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I believe that there's so much information about how women are discriminated against, and so little about male issues, that lots of men believe that men's rights are unnecessary at best, and based in misogyny at worst. Making enemies out of potential allies may hurt more than it helps, in many cases. We already have feminists, and many women, making men the enemy to both men and women.
/r/MensRights20/07/19 03:10 PM
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Good one!! Thinking like this is exactly what we need. We need short, logical, on-point replies to the feminist notion that women's issues dwarf those of men, such that only women's issues warrant attention - such that noticing of, and speaking up about, men's issues is somehow misogynistic.
/r/MensRights20/07/19 03:04 PM
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She's a hypocrite. If male issues are of little consequence then there should be no reason why gender discrimination shouldn't end for everybody, and not solely for women. Sexism-free speech should be the rule for everybody, for the benefit of both men and women, boys and girls. A lot of feminists justify their hypocrisy with the claim that males are privileged and have no gender discrimination issues to speak of. They have to take that position, because forcing women to see their own prejudices…
/r/MensRights20/07/19 02:56 PM
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Post removed by author. This isn't the place or time.
/r/MensRights20/07/19 02:28 PM
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Right. Women are discriminated against because they want children more than men do, so it's obviously unfair when they go ahead and have them. And, I wonder how much of that bread would 'survive' without all the work men have done to create a world that supports over 7 billion loaves.
/r/MensRights10/07/19 11:45 PM
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I"d read that it didn't pass originally because there was still a draft, or one pretty recent, and women didn't want to be drafted. I saw them being assured that, for the sake of the nation, only men would be drafted. Still, it didn't pass. That was maybe 30 years ago, now.
/r/MensRights10/07/19 11:40 PM
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THIS IS BULLSHIT. The one I saw said that somewhere between 22 and 33%, or so, or women had gone on a date simply for the food. Notice how different that is from the idea that a third of all dates are for food. I don't have any respect for misleading bullshit. We should be above outright lies.
/r/MensRights10/07/19 11:37 PM
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Well, the simple fact is that they are more hostile; the reason is that, since more hostility is directed at men all their lives, more hostility is required to direct them at women. Ex. How often are men referred to as dicks vs. how often women are referred to as cunts.
/r/MensRights10/07/19 11:27 PM
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They start with the premise that men are privileged. Thus, devaluing men is justified in their minds. SOMEDAY, in the far, far future, when men don't have privileges, according to their thinking, it won't be necessary to devalue men.
/r/MensRights10/07/19 11:21 PM
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IF those same companies pay their workers more, then I'm ok with that. But, I'm a workers' rights kind of guy, who doesn't like seeing three people hold more wealth than half of all Americans.
/r/MensRights10/07/19 11:18 PM
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I believe that feminists, and women in general, very much want to avoid discussing aspect of gender discrimination that harm men, and, in fact, try to censor such discussions at every opportunity. That's a major part of why feminists never stop looking for discrimination that harms women, and seldom look at discrimination that helps women. It allows them to maintain that men are so heavily favored that the notion that any discussion of men's need for rights is completely ludicrous. They really d…
/r/MensRights10/07/19 10:56 PM
1

Never happen. Too many parents will oppose, including men.
/r/MensRights10/07/19 10:45 PM
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No, it's actually bullshit. Point to the actual cases of female entitlement, and stop wasting people's time.
/r/MensRights10/07/19 10:35 PM
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Our president, despite what many in right-leaning MRA sites like this one, is probably the biggest asshole to ever lead our country. Fuck pretty much everything he says.
/r/MensRights10/07/19 10:33 PM
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Yeah, it caused results that feminists liked, is what that seems to come down to.
/r/MensRights10/07/19 10:21 PM
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SNAFU - Situation Normal All Fucked Up.
/r/MensRights01/07/19 09:42 PM
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Women have higher sexual value. So, more is stolen from her when somebody lifts up her skirt. Men are a dime-a-dozen, sexually speaking, so it's more of a misdemeanor. Or, so our culture sees it.
/r/MensRights30/06/19 12:30 AM
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There are reasons for everything, including why people kill other people. But, that just doesn't work for people living together. Nor does it work to have different rules for men and women, especially since women have been complaining about that for decades. To wit: it's bad when men do it, but fine when women do it.
/r/MensRights30/06/19 12:24 AM
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I might be changing. If I focus on the bad shit that women do, and especially to men, then it really affects how I think about women. It leads me to a negative view of women. I begin to think that's not helping me, OR other men, OR women. It's like paying a lot of attention to the news; much, maybe most, of it is negative, and makes me fearful, anxious...and ANGRY. Fact is, it's news because it doesn't happen very often at all. I don't know anybody who was murdered,or robbed, or raped. But, I re…
/r/MensRights29/10/18 10:08 PM
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Uh..ok. It's common. So, you shouldn't have any problem providing a link to articles where the NSA, CIA, or FBI involves itself in simple cases of domestic disturbance/violence.
/r/MensRights29/10/18 09:57 PM
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Nah. You don't know plenty OF men who now receive a secondary screen at the airport. You know ABOUT them, and maybe converse with some of them over the manosphere. And that's not the CIA, the NSA, or the FBI doing it. That would be the TSA. You should be dealing with your own ignorance instead of worrying about mine.
/r/MensRights29/10/18 09:09 PM
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You like to leave out the fact that there's a very large inequality in which one gender is much more severely punished for the same transgression. The reason for that is simply because of the gender difference. Thus, the way we think about gender is a problem. We think women should be able to do what we saw to a man simply because she's a woman and he's a man. Leaving gender out of a discussion on gender equality is absurd.
/r/MensRights19/10/18 12:34 AM
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The difference is that I do know people who have cancer personally. Most of us do, since it's one of the major killers. But, claiming that the fbi, cia, or nsa give a sweet shit about the domestic relationships of most men is absurd. You don't know anybody in that situation, I don't know anybody in that situation, and nobody you or I know knows anybody in that situation. It's a bullshit claim. I don't appreciate bullshit, because I think it does a lot more harm than good. If you have to MAKE UP …
/r/MensRights19/10/18 12:29 AM
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I've never been investigated by the fbi, cia, or nsa, and neither has anybody I've ever met, for GF problems. I think that's highly likely to continue. Enjoy your concern.
/r/MensRights16/10/18 01:18 AM
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I think I'm making a different point - one that not all guys want to read. Example: If 95% of murders are committed by men, then it's bullshit to claim that women are equally likely to murder somebody. I keep seeing guys answer criticisms of men's behavior with a few (or even a single) examples of women doing the same thing. ​
/r/MensRights16/10/18 12:59 AM
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They don't call it sexual assault when a woman is the perpetrator, even when her target is a minor. In our culture, women have hugely more sexual freedom and power than men do.
/r/MensRights16/10/18 12:29 AM
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Fuck that! I want women to stop getting away with violence against men.
/r/MensRights16/10/18 12:25 AM
1

Thanks for your opinion. I've had it with the opinion that women should be able to hit with no repercussions. How does that teach them to keep their hands to themselves? Answer: it doesn't. So the privilege continues.
/r/MensRights16/10/18 12:22 AM
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Yes. You just showed us why women want to be believed on their word alone. It's long been known that rape is very hard to prove.
/r/MensRights12/10/18 10:30 PM
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So, that made you feel better? Putting others down for a stupid reason says what you don't want said about you. You said it, so you should listen to yourself.
/r/MensRights12/10/18 02:23 PM
2

One thing that I really do like that has changed drastically: now, I wouldn't be insulted to be called gay. "No, I don't much like women. Dick, and the culture of men are where it's at, for me. See you later." Now that's not true, but I would've been horrified as a young man to be thought of as gay. Back then, being gay seemed like a huge fault for men, and all of us wanted desperately to be thought of as a REAL MAN, because only a few guys could be that. It was like an unspoken competition. THA…
/r/MensRights10/10/18 02:09 PM
1

This is truth. Men and women play by completely different rules concerning sex. We DO see it as very different when women do the exact same thing a man might be condemned for. It's simple. Women give sex, and are in the power position. Men work to be given sex, and are in the supplicant position. That's privilege for women, and they have NO problem with privilege for women. They are only interested in perceived male privilege. These are the people our culture, as a whole, looks to to inform us a…
/r/MensRights10/10/18 01:47 PM
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I don't know the stats. But, I'll bet a lot more men make the 1st moves in relationships because that's expected of us. WOMEN EXPECT MEN TO TAKE THE RISKS. And, sometimes they don't like the moves that men make. So it goes. Let them start making a lot more of those 1st moves, and a lot more of them will then be seen as clumsy, awkward, creepy, and rapish.
/r/MensRights08/10/18 04:24 PM
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Yup, I AM becoming more misogynistic; I'd love to see him punch her fucking lights out. It has nothing to do with equality and everything to do with privilege that women get away with this shit. She's smaller and weaker? So what?! I don't hit guys way bigger and stronger than I am.
/r/MensRights05/10/18 04:45 PM
1

Never, ever saw a female thug glass anybody. You actually have?
/r/MensRights02/10/18 06:33 PM
1

Yeah, but it's only men who have to answer for the past. That's sexism, my friend.
/r/MensRights02/10/18 06:29 PM
1

Love how women do things like this, the article doesn't mention that'll she'll spend the next 10 years in jail...and we need to stop sending women to jail. MGTOW. They're guilty/suspect until proven innocent.
/r/MensRights02/10/18 06:27 PM
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So, exactly how did it become "culturally framed?" Guys *pretending* they don't want to get married, when they really do? Women doing just the opposite? ...maybe, but I just don't see it.
/r/MensRights02/10/18 06:23 PM
1

I think women who hit very much deserve to be hit back. That's equality, ladies. Deal with it.
/r/MensRights01/10/18 02:22 PM
1

Some guy should just get up and knock her fucking silly. Fuck female privilege for terrorists.
/r/MensRights27/09/18 03:08 PM
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Just a reminder that, if you make this about Democrats and Republicans, you're going to lose a lot of intelligent allies.
/r/MensRights27/09/18 03:07 PM
1

Good. Men are much more often victims of violence. I'm a life-long Democrat, but I don't generally support their stance on gender.
/r/MensRights27/09/18 03:06 PM
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MGTOW. ​ Stay away from women. They're guilty until proven innocent. Find better things to do for the next 15 years, then check back in and see if they've come to their senses.
/r/MensRights27/09/18 03:04 PM
2

I'm getting to the point where I'd like to see some really big guy PUNCH HER FUCKING LIGHTS OUT!
/r/MensRights27/09/18 03:01 PM
1

Actually, it's a trope spread by the majority of men who would sooner protect women from predators than be a predator themselves.
/r/MensRights27/09/18 02:59 PM
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I really love how privileges for woman are almost completely overlooked, all the while they're looking under every rock for men's advantages.
/r/MensRights27/09/18 02:54 PM
1

So, you telling me to get over myself isn't you making it about me. I don't think you have a clear idea of what making it about me entails. But, I'll repeat the message for anybody who might find use for it. We have to be better than women because there are a LOT more women into women's rights than there are men into men's rights. We have to be more careful about statements and positions. Spewing complete BS to make some artistic statement really doesn't help us. FACTS are what help us. For inst…
/r/MensRights24/09/18 08:59 PM
2

Well, if women want to earn more money, the way men do, they should do the things that actually earn money. Having and raising, and cleaning after one's own children doesn't pay very well. One has to go where the money is, because the money surely isn't looking for us. It's not discrimination against me if i choose a job that I like more, but that doesn't pay very well. ​ Basically, women think it's unfair that men earn more $, but not that men work harder and longer at jobs that are actually in…
/r/MensRights24/09/18 06:42 PM
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Scared of men? Ok. So, who protects women from the small minority of men who assault women? Other men. Honestly, truly, I would so love to see all the decent guys simply IGNORE women and all their issues and problems for the next year of so. Now THERE's a sci-fi book I'd love to read.
/r/MensRights24/09/18 06:32 PM
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I just know you're all lining up, baited breath-like, to read my opinion. ​ If there's no proof of actual lying, I don't think sexual assault accusers should be legally penalized - same as with rape and sexual assault. If the victim's word is the ONLY evidence, I don't think the accused should be jailed. Thus, for any person who was actually assaulted, but can't prove it, there would be no danger. The danger would exist only if there's good evidence that the person is using the law to assault an…
/r/MensRights24/09/18 06:21 PM
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Yeah, she pulled the usual switcheroo - conflate assault, which could be as evil as fondling somebody's butt, with actual rape. And, "out of control???" I've read numerous times that the rate of rape has fallen drastically over the last 20 years, or so.
/r/MensRights24/09/18 06:07 PM
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Women should be believed enough to cause the initiation of a thorough investigation. If there' no corroborating evidence, sorry, her word isn't enough.
/r/MensRights24/09/18 06:02 PM
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She chooses to forget that, were it not for men, a lot more women would be raped. Far more of us protect them than harm them. Maybe we should stop doing that for a while, to give them a better sense of perspective.
/r/MensRights21/09/18 10:39 PM
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Teach men not to rape is about misandry, pure and simple. The vast majority of us would protect women before we'd assault them. It would make WAY MORE SENSE for them to thank men, because we're the reason a lot more women aren't assaulted.
/r/MensRights21/09/18 10:34 PM
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There are a lot of ANGRY guys over there. But, I think they're dead on about marrying, living with, and having children with women. In what other area of our lives would we take a 50% (with women initiating 70% of divorces) on losing our home, our children, half our wealth despite who earned it, and a significant part of our income?
/r/MensRights21/09/18 10:25 PM
1

Fair assessment. ​ But, I STILL don't like it!
/r/MensRights21/09/18 10:22 PM
1

My point was that the first evidence of feminism I saw was in the late 60s. The point about movies was that you can start to see a very big difference in the culture after that. It was gradual, but if we suddenly went back to 1965, it would be night and day, gender-wise.
/r/MensRights21/09/18 10:19 PM
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" There are so many diverse role models that already exist. " NOT IN 1968 THEY DIDN'T. I'm a 66-YO guy. The OP has good points. Things were VERY different back then in terms of gender. Just watch almost any movie made before that. Feminism actually has helped me as a man in that I never, ever felt obliged to support another person who was physically able to support him/herself. I got a vasectomy when my 1st wife didn't want children because I was at best only mildly interested in them, and it wa…
/r/MensRights20/09/18 07:02 PM
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Women need to be believed only to the extent that an investigation is undertaken, until corroborating evidence is uncovered. Women who knowingly lie should be severely legally penalized. While people can disagree over ability to consent, I think any participation on the part of the "victim" should be the final word on that score. Participation = consent. ​ In the future, all sexual activity will have to be filmed, by law.
/r/MensRights20/09/18 06:29 PM
1

Fuck you, Honey!
/r/MensRights20/09/18 06:21 PM
1

He must be running again, wants the women's vote. "I know! I'll tell 'em what they most want to hear! It worked before!"
/r/MensRights20/09/18 06:19 PM
1

The way things are going, men will soon stop talking to women entirely. Mansplaining will be an evil of the past...along with civilization. ​ Me, I'm getting to the point where I've pretty much had it with women. I have a few female friends, and that's plenty, thanks. No need to seek more.
/r/MensRights20/09/18 06:13 PM
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There's a lot more to this than simply the fact that the same behavior for men and women is judged differently. It will be judged differently for as long as men want to benefit and enrich primarily their own offspring, JUST AS WOMEN DO. For millennia upon millennia, the only way men could believe a child was his own was to restrict the sexual freedom of women. Now, we CAN know for certain. And women, in general, want to prevent that as much as possible for their own benefit. Really, in the end, …
/r/MensRights19/09/18 03:39 PM
2

To me, the most important possible (at this time) result of men's rights activity is to draw more men to the cause, and to educate them. United we stand, etc. Just as with feminism, extremism in our group is inescapable, and it will put many men and women off. But, after 50 years of it, feminism is a very strong part of our culture. People AGREE with much of it, and mostly ignore the extremists. I'm hoping that will happen with men's rights. If enough men keep pointing out that feminism is a lot…
/r/MensRights19/09/18 03:08 PM
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PREDICTION: just about all guys think rape is abusive to the victim. Where they're likely to disagree is in too-high-to-consent cases, where BOTH were high, and where both actively participated. Sorry, that's not rape. That's women, generally, who keep being told what victims they are, and what evil people men are.
/r/MensRights15/09/18 03:25 PM
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It should be a LOT more costly for women WHO HAVE BEEN PROVED TO BE PURPOSEFULLY LYING. They should face the same penalty a guilty rapist would face. ​ These days there's a lot of controversy about women too high to consent - while we don't care at all if a man is too drunk. That's not necessarily lying on purpose. That's about women convinced by other women that they're victims.
/r/MensRights15/09/18 03:21 PM
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AND women are MUCH, MUCH (please envision a very long string of "MUCHes" here) more aware of when those days are than men are. What men are "guilty" of is assuming that women who say they're on birth control are telling the truth. They're guilty of assuming that very few women want to get pregnant by accident, and that they, again, would be truthful with the men they have sex with. So, I have to disagree about who holds primary responsibility for "unwanted" pregnancies. AND, the fact that women …
/r/MensRights15/09/18 03:16 PM
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It's not fair. But, with feminists unendingly yammering into women's ears, the fair sex is convinced that things like this are rare anomalies, while their issues are of paramount importance.
/r/MensRights15/09/18 03:05 PM
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Check out The Myth of Male Power author, Warren Farrell. ​ Check out A Voice For Men, (AVFM) Paul Elam and Peter Wright. Webite, lots of YouTube. ​ Check out the material ON THE SIDE OF THE WEB PAGE YOU'RE CURRENTLY READING. There's a LOT out there.
/r/MensRights15/09/18 03:02 PM
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Lying includes purpose. Mistakes work against purpose. ​ A disagreement in which one side must necessarily be mistaken doesn't require dishonesty in any way. Assuming dishonesty is a pejorative judgment based on wishes instead of information. That deserves NO respect.
/r/MensRights15/09/18 02:53 PM
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So, you think they're just harder on the guys? I would guess that guys are more likely to display anger and vehemently, vocally, let a ref/umpire know where they erred. (I'm a guy.) ​ OH, ( just read further in the comments here. Men's matches (for which the prize money is now equal) are 2/3s as long again as women's (Best of 5 vs. best of 3). Lots more judgments by umps/refs = lots more chances for reasonable disagreement. That would mean the number of disputes per point is much more equal. ​ S…
/r/MensRights15/09/18 02:50 PM
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Bullshit. There's a shortage of time - it's not unlimited. And we all have to decide how to spend it. Women want to have it both ways, which is all about entitlement. Men can't spend a lot of time with their children AND spend a lot of time succeeding. A compromise is required. From what I've read women simply want to spend time with their children; THEY DON'T LIKE WORKING WHILE A HUSBAND STAYS AT HOME. They, far more often, want to be the one to stay at home. That's not oppression. That's a cho…
/r/MensRights15/09/18 02:48 PM
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Yeah, this is what appeals to me about MGTOW. I really don't understand a number of their issues,and the misogny really is rampant. But, marriage with, children with, or living with a woman - MISTAKE!!! ​ In what other area of their life would a rational person, man or woman, accept a 50% risk of losing their home, access to their children, half their wealth - regardless of who earned it, and a significant part of their income?
/r/MensRights12/09/18 10:33 PM
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BOYCOTT!!!
/r/MensRights12/09/18 10:28 PM
1

Are there really all that many guys who can't figure this out? IF 10,000 women get abused, then 1 example of a man being abused doesn't demonstrate equality. I don't know how many men get this kind of abuse, nor how many women do. But, for instance, if men pay for 99% of dates, then ONE woman, paying one time, doesn't constitute evidence that WOMEN HAVE TO PAY TOO!!! ​ I keep seeing things like that here. Guys claiming women are just as bad as men at whatever, because they found an example. That…
/r/MensRights12/09/18 10:09 PM
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MOSTLY, I don't give a flying fuck about my sperm after I die. I doubt most men care about that. ​ The only scenario i can see right off hand where it might make some difference is if a man has an estate to leave. Then. extra children that only the woman/wife/whatever wants might remove some of that estate intended for children he was aware of in favor of children he never met.
/r/MensRights12/09/18 09:50 PM
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Yeah. It's the patriarchy. All that hatred became internalized, so that women judge other women by rape culture standards. Didn't you get all that at the Maintain Male Dominance meetings we all attended while we were growing up?
/r/MensRights08/09/18 02:51 AM
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Avoiding walking behind a woman is very like a woman being careful about her surroundings, behavior, etc., to avoid rape. Shouldn't have to do it, but it removes any reasonable possibility of trouble. Wanna' be a statistic to make a point?
/r/MensRights08/09/18 02:43 AM
1

Not enough questions about women? Are there a lot of questions specifically about men and maleness? Or do women just not tend to know as much about the world around them?
/r/MensRights07/09/18 05:55 PM
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So, if a m/f couple get into it, and the f shows the only signs of violence, GUARANTEED the m is going to jail. 'Cuz only violence against women is a problem.
/r/MensRights07/09/18 05:47 PM
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Yup. Plenty of misogyny in MGTOW, as far as I can see. Kind of like there's plenty of hatred for men among radical feminists. But, I don't think ALL feminist issues are BS, nor do I think that of MGTOW. The single thing that I have no doubt on the value of is their notion that marrying women, living with them, and having children are mistakes, in these times, for men. For any reason at all, men lose their homes, access to their children, half their wealth without regard for who earned it, and a …
/r/MensRights07/09/18 05:29 PM
1

The funds benefit women, and women keep claiming DV is a huge problem for women. It's politics.
/r/MensRights07/09/18 05:21 PM
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The answer is: sexism. But, our culture is only interested in sexism if women are the victims.
/r/MensRights07/09/18 05:13 PM
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Well, I find it extremely sexist to always be expected to do the risky and heavily emotional work of initiating contact with the other sex. I have better things to do.
/r/MensRights07/09/18 05:05 PM
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Lord knows, she must've paid him that $380,000 so he wouldn't simply confess to raping her. "Hey, you RAPED me! Why don't I pay you to keep quiet about it?"
/r/MensRights07/09/18 04:17 PM
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Yeah, I have to wonder how many men get suspended sentences by blaming a weight-loss drug. Bet it's ASTRONOMICAL!!!
/r/MensRights07/09/18 04:15 PM
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DIDN'T READ ARTICLE/ RESPONDING TO TITLE ONLY. NO. Men should have the right to pay no child support and have no rights to the child other than what the mother wishes to grant. If the father wants visitation rights AND pays support, then the mother should be legally obliged to cooperate. IOW, mothers can't unilaterally decide that the father has no visitation rights if she bears the child.
/r/MensRights07/09/18 04:10 PM
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THE single most interesting thing about women is all their sexuality and reproduction. To me, it makes sense that women's TV would lead with their strong suit - at the same time it's objectifying if men do it. Hey, they have the numbers to ignore any inconsistencies/hypocrisies.
/r/MensRights07/09/18 04:01 PM
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I'll stop saying I made a woman come when women stop saying a man (any man) couldn't make them come. So much of stuff like this: the whole story says NOTHING LIKE what some women would have us believe.
/r/MensRights07/09/18 03:57 PM
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Blame men?! I didn't have anything to do with it!! Neither did any guy I know. FUCK YOU and the sexist horse you rode in on!
/r/MensRights28/08/18 02:43 PM
2

So, imagine a father letting his daughter go for adoption simply because he didn't like females. That might be the closest analogy.
/r/MensRights27/08/18 01:51 PM
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No, it's not illegal. A woman can get an abortion for any reason, or NO reason.
/r/MensRights27/08/18 01:50 PM
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Yes, we can turn MensRights into politics and fight among ourselves. Or, we can focus on men's rights and work together on what we agree on. I'm hoping the latter makes more sense to most of us.
/r/MensRights25/08/18 02:13 PM
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I'm pretty Leftist, in that I believe the rich and powerful, the corporations MUST be continually and closely monitored for actions designed to increase the wealth of the few at great cost to the many. Including you, unless you're one of the 1%. I think that is absolutely and completely necessary. I think poor, Rightist Whites, in particular, are highly encouraged to see only the faults - and they are many - of the Left, by that 1% because divide-and-conquer is as effective as it's always been. …
/r/MensRights25/08/18 01:35 PM
3

Civilization and Its Discontents, the Freud book, comes to mind. Traits that we developed to help us survive aren't always optimal in modern civilization, and lead to conflicts and problems in some situations. Fems focus on some typically male traits that can be problematic and blame them completely on males, forgetting that females have always been intimately related to us, and were there EVERY STEP OF THE WAY when those traits developed and came to the fore. Forgetting, or simply never taking …
/r/MensRights25/08/18 01:27 PM
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Men are supposed to chase women. We're supposed to flirt with them, attend to them, entice them, try to have relations with them, try to have sex with them. Now, they're calling that oppression. All the while they completely ignore the advantages nature and our various cultures grant to them. I find some of the notions of MGTOW helpful. Do things other than chase women around. Build friendships, develop hobbies, get involved in things we believe in. Save money. Live life without women at the cen…
/r/MensRights25/08/18 01:19 PM
1

So, it makes sense to call fems out at their own game. At the same time, I hate to see men resorting to the same lame-ass, propaganda tactics. It's like Orwell's Animal Farm out there.
/r/MensRights25/08/18 01:12 PM
1

"He RAPED me!" "No, I didn't!" So, how do you believe the woman while not disbelieving the man? I get it that she might think she was too drunk...although I don't think it's rape if both partners are actively participating...while he may say he was just as drunk. But, if the only conclusion is that one of them is lying, how does one believe the woman while refraining from disbelieving the man. Guess I'm simple.
/r/MensRights24/08/18 08:56 PM
1

" - then makes them compete." So, how exactly did she force anybody to compete? Did she hold a gun to each of their heads? No? Then she didn't make anybody compete.
/r/MensRights24/08/18 08:51 PM
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Yeah, I have to wonder how often men were allowed to stay home with the children while the women went out to find food and/or earn money.
/r/MensRights24/08/18 08:47 PM
1

Good. Nothing wrong with being attracted to the opposite sex. Mostly, we're supposed to be, when the right ones come along. It's how we all got here.
/r/MensRights23/08/18 03:28 PM
1

Boys would avoid the pink, because it's for girls. Girls would like the blue just fine, with some percentage preferring the pink. Overall, less demand for the pink. Thus, lower price.
/r/MensRights21/08/18 05:03 PM
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So, I'm 65, male, white, married, NEVER HAD CHILDREN. My 1st wife was physically afraid to bear children - she admitted it - and wanted a tubal ligation. I really didn't care, so I volunteered to get a vasectomy, which is much less invasive. Of course, we got a divorce a few years later. I like kids. I might like to be around them in some way. And, I probably would've loved them, had I ever had any. Like most dads. But, I don't regret not having them. The ONLY thing is that my parents would've l…
/r/MensRights21/08/18 04:55 PM
2

Aside from any other problems with women a man may encounter, 50% of marriages end in divorce, with 70% initiated by the woman. Then the man loses his home, access to his children, half his wealth, whether or not the wife earned or worked as much, and a significant portion of his income. IN NO OTHER AREA OF LIFE WOULD MOST PEOPLE TAKE SUCH A RISK. That, alone, is complete justification for MGTOW.
/r/MensRights21/08/18 04:44 PM
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CORRECTED: You will never see more victim blaming than in situations where the victim is a man and the perpetrator is a woman.
/r/MensRights21/08/18 04:34 PM
1

More and more it looks like women LOVE sexism, so long as men are the victims.
/r/MensRights21/08/18 04:34 PM
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I FUCKING HATE THE BULLSHIT ABOUT CONSENT!!! No, nobody should be taking advantage of a black-out drunk. That IS some version of rape. But, if a person actively PARTICIPATES, it's not rape. And, of course, applying rules according to gender is the sexism that women want, all the while they tell us sexism is evil.
/r/MensRights21/08/18 04:31 PM
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Fuck making it socially acceptable. We simply need to support each other. If we don't hang together, we shall surely hang alone.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 09:13 PM
1

When there's real equality, men won't be forced to pay for the children that women aren't forced to bear. And just about ALL the women demanding equality will be against it.
/r/MensRights16/08/18 02:41 PM
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Sorry, Trump is NOT supported by around half of Americans. Everything I see tells me it's a shrinking minority, after he lost the popular vote. And marriage simply isn't in any man's interests, in these times. 50% of the time they end in divorce, with women initiating 70%. Man loses home, children, half his wealth, and a good part of his salary. Screw that. Anti-woman. Woman are THE problem for many, if not most men. This is where men come to complain about them, and for support.
/r/MensRights14/08/18 09:08 PM
1

Yessir!! Equality where some of them like it, superiority everywhere else.
/r/MensRights13/08/18 05:49 PM
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Too much around, for the past 50 years, about male privilege. Some will take her as serious, and she's to blame for that. Some won't. She should make better jokes, or make them about something else.
/r/MensRights13/08/18 05:35 PM
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Saw a feminist comment a few days ago, something to the effect that homeless men embody the worst kind of masculinity. Of course, some idiot says something idiotic, and if it's a feminist who says it, some MRA guy is going to say ALL feminists think that. Probably not. But, feminists, who sometimes claim to speak for men, don't really have much to say about the worst expectations that masculinity places on men. And, they really don't seem to think there's much good about men in the first place. …
/r/MensRights13/08/18 05:13 PM
2

Norman Mailer called it something like the firmest male prejudice of all - that women already have it better than men.
/r/MensRights10/08/18 04:32 AM
1

I hate bullshit. The CIA and the NSA aren't coming after you because you had a problem with a girlfriend, with very rare exceptions. Neither is the FBI, unless they think you murdered her. Imagine how much better this sub could be without all the over-generalizations, exaggerations, and bullshit. Just straight-up facts and information to help other guys out. WE KEEP GIVING OUR ENEMIES REASONS TO IGNORE US. They're going to ignore us as much as they can anyway, but we don't have to make it easy f…
/r/MensRights09/08/18 09:57 PM
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Worthless? Dunno. That might depend on the number of women raped vs. the number of men raped. IF a lot more women are raped, with men doing the raping, then these aren't worthless at all. They're very useful. They are the definition of biased, but if reality is that biased also, then they're useful.
/r/MensRights09/08/18 09:47 PM
1

She wants to marry the man who raped her?! Not likely. Rape not likely either. She's blackmailing him. You're my meal ticket: marry me or go to jail...or have your career ruined.
/r/MensRights07/08/18 02:22 PM
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Well, we've learned that feminists like benevolent sexism. So, the truth is, women want equality where they like it, and they like privileges everywhere else. The method works like a charm; describe every incident that is remotely misogynistic repeatedly, and at great length. Ignore and criticize any descriptions of misandry or sexism against men. It's working.
/r/MensRights04/08/18 09:13 PM
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Imagine what happens to the career of any male Hollywood star who says the opposite. MGTOW!!! Guys, we need a fucking UNION.
/r/MensRights04/08/18 08:57 PM
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It speaks libraries, never mind volumes, that countries like France have outlawed DNA tests. They've outlawed KNOWLEDGE, for chrissakes. Think about what it says about misogyny, misandry, relations between the genders, that it's only important who the father is when mothers want money.
/r/MensRights03/08/18 01:14 PM
1

Simple: JO believes it's much more of an issue when men harass women. Why? I'm guessing that men do it to women a lot more than women do it to men. IF THAT'S TRUE, then it IS an issue for women, and pretty much NOT an issue for men. Men's issue about this is that men are expected to approach women and initiate relations. Women are thus presented with choices. Of course they will dislike some of the choices, and see the same behavior as either harassment or welcome, depending on the man and the c…
/r/MensRights01/08/18 02:53 PM
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What are the numbers? If FAR fewer men are, or feel, sexually harassed, then it's simply not a problem for men. Then this is about men feeling better about being men..which IS a problem, given that feminists are pretty much out to make ALL of us look bad, and at every opportunity. Men are the initiators, and women the judges. Reverse those roles and more men are assaulted and harassed. And, if completely removing assault/harassment meant men completely stopped pursuing women, I think women would…
/r/MensRights01/08/18 02:36 PM
1

Where we disagree is in assigning responsibility. You want to focus on men, despite the fact that they have less power, less control, greater sex drive, and fewer natural reasons to avoid sex. So, basically you believe men and women are fundamentally different, and that they should have different gender roles. Women should be taken care of and treated more like children than men should be.
/r/MensRights01/08/18 02:14 PM
1

If bearing children isn't easy, the good part is it's not mandatory. You keep equating not cumming inside with abortion. Women have birth control AND abortion, for after the fact. That gives women complete control. Thus, no woman is forced to have a child. Thus, no man should be forced to help pay for one. If we ever reach actual equality, no man will be. Men should be informed about any pregnancy. If the woman wants to proceed with the pregnancy, the man should be given a time to decide. If he …
/r/MensRights31/07/18 01:56 PM
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Nobody operates on an ailing rocket, despite whatever Google might reveal. Of course women want men to legally bear 50% responsibility. That's entirely in their financial interest. But, men shouldn't have to pay for the children of women unless, completely informed, they decide to. Why? Because women can have abortions. Women aren't forced to bear children, so there's no justification for forcing men to support them. And, with over 7&1/2 billion of us on the planet, we don't need to encourage wo…
/r/MensRights30/07/18 10:40 PM
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Funny how you really want to blame the men, when the women have MUCH more power and control around pregnancy. Rocket surgery?
/r/MensRights30/07/18 10:30 PM
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Men can't choose to be fathers. They can choose to have sex or not. Bearing a child is entirely a choice by women, as they've been telling us for several decades, now.
/r/MensRights30/07/18 10:24 PM
2

Yes, and those women CHOSE to bear a child, pretty much knowing they'd be doing it alone. They aren't victims.
/r/MensRights30/07/18 10:14 PM
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I've read it's 70% of black children live in single-mother homes. That's not something that just happened to those women. I think they've got it that the government will help, and they simply plan on that. They aren't victims.
/r/MensRights30/07/18 09:43 PM
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THIS is where I find the very concept of MGTOW very helpful. I don't give a fuck if women are afraid of me, and if they avoid me. That's their issue, and I have better things to do.
/r/MensRights30/07/18 09:39 PM
1

THEY DON'T MISUNDERSTAND. You are underestimating the opposition. They are willing to use any issue, any opportunity to further their cause, legitimate or not. Most people will simply see that the US spends more on male athletes, full stop.
/r/MensRights28/07/18 12:56 PM
1

MGTOW. Don't play in the trash, children.
/r/MensRights24/07/18 09:12 PM
1

Emotional connection. Men have much less of it. When men decide to end themselves, it's far less often a cry for help. They've realized there is no help that they can allow themselves to accept. Makes me think: if you're a grown male, but not considered a man, then you are pretty much nothing. Women don't face a challenge to their basic worthiness in a way that's tied to their femininity; their very right to take up space is never questioned. They are seen as having value simply because they exi…
/r/MensRights24/07/18 02:51 PM
1

MGTOW. ..with one of the reasons being the sexism around domestic abuse. My mother psychologically abused my father for as long as I've known them. Honestly, were it the other way around, other women would've approached my mother to help stop the abuse. Not so when it's women who are the abusers. The men have NO support...much worse, they're laughed at. It's considered their fault.
/r/MensRights24/07/18 02:43 PM
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...because it's on the very edge of being politically incorrect/anti-women if we don't value abused women more than abused men. Feminists know how sexist that is, so they need to propagandize like crazy to make it seem like justice. So, the rape of men is swept under the rug. When it's no longer PC to state the facts, that will be a sign that men are seen as fully human again. AND...men generally like sex more than women, so the notion that a man wouldn't voluntarily take part in sex flies in th…
/r/MensRights24/07/18 02:38 PM
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Very respectfully disagree. Maybe we do have a natural role, that individual men can follow, or not. People need purposes. What's happening now is that that role, and men generally, are being thwarted, and men completely disrespected. So, if men's role was given it's proper consideration, men would receive much more respect, and much more satisfaction from doing what men have always done. That might work. Combine that with the fact that many of us are much more open to the notion that individual…
/r/MensRights24/07/18 02:22 PM
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...and, of course that kind of relationship would mostly only be true for fathers. In the case of motherhood, vastly more benefit of the doubt is given to actual biological mothers. But, somehow, that's not based solely on gender.
/r/MensRights18/07/18 09:47 PM
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So, imagine you're a guy in France who's had an affair with a married woman. She gets pregnant. You are now very glad that the husband can't get a DNA test. I have to wonder how many men in France wouldn't want the true paternity of a child known. It behooves us to know where support for sexist statutes may come from.
/r/MensRights18/07/18 09:41 PM
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MGTOW! Some women seriousy need to be avoided. And, I see now how I differ from MGTOW. IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO WALK AWAY FROM SOME WOMEN. And, it may be a mistake in these times to seriously commit to any woman. That's for every man to decide. But, the notions of MGTOW - be ready to walk away immediately, are where it's at for men, now.
/r/MensRights15/07/18 01:38 PM
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YES!!! I admit it; I'd feel better if I had a big penis. Funny, I had to learn that. I can remember never thinking twice about it while I was growing up. Then I became aware that it was a thing, and that some women really like them big.
/r/MensRights13/07/18 05:07 PM
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The reason men claim women sometimes lie about rape is because they sometimes do. And, for FUN, no less. https://www.modernghana.com/entertainment/50655/rosemond-brown-apologises-to-medikal-after-false-rape-allega.html "Akuapem Poloo had accused the musician of trying to rape her in one of her videos and in that video, she warned Medikal to desist from such behaviors and stick to her girlfriend, Deborah Vanessa but now she’s saying that she said all that for the fun of it and that nothing of tha…
/r/MensRights13/07/18 04:20 PM
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WGTOW!!! GO for it, Ladies!
/r/MensRights10/07/18 02:05 PM
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PET PEEVE: People who don't bother to take the time to get a post right, while knowing that thousands of people will read it. 75% of men are NOT homeless. 75% of those who are homeless are men.
/r/MensRights05/07/18 01:23 PM
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THIS OUGHT TO GO OVER BIG: They say things we don't like to hear, and don't want to think are true. They will do that forever. For so long as we listen to them (and seek out sites like this one so we can find more to oppose, and be upset by) we will read and hear the negative things they say about us. There's no escaping that. So, maybe, we don't go to sites that feature lots of posts about women telling us all how bad men are? MGTOW. Aside from the extremely practical advice to never live with,…
/r/MensRights25/06/18 06:24 PM
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This would be a problem if I gave a fuck about how they think I should live my life.
/r/MensRights23/06/18 12:39 PM
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She is (it's a culture-wide phenomenon) so brainwashed about privilege for females, that she can't even see it as privilege; it's just the way things are supposed to be. Meanwhile, NOTHING is supposed to exist that favors males.
/r/MensRights22/06/18 01:59 PM
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Women are inherently valuable because of their sexuality. Men have about zero value sexually. So, men try to get sex from women. That gives women power, which they accept as their due, and then proceed to ignore, in favor of a one-sided view of male privilege. The single most powerful thing about women may be that they have SO much sexual power, at the same time that they're able to stymie widespread discussion about it. That's a modern thought crime. The very power to create new thought crimes …
/r/MensRights22/06/18 01:46 PM
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OP statement may well be true. But, it doesn't follow from that that people with privilege they don't know about are inherently evil. And THAT'S the position that feminists hold; basically that men are evil, and deserving of hatred.
/r/MensRights22/06/18 01:42 PM
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It would've been interesting to have a guy wear an identical outfit. That would also be ridiculous, and it would demonstrate that it's ridiculous on both men and women.
/r/MensRights21/06/18 03:01 PM
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So, when do men get a discount to make up for the hundreds of years where women are privileged to be able to expect drinks to be bought for them?
/r/MensRights21/06/18 02:57 PM
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So, there should be laws stating that it's only some sort of crime, or assault, when men look at women? MGTOW. Ignore 'em completely and see if they like that better.
/r/MensRights21/06/18 02:54 PM
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It's fair: to men, it's not as good a film. To women, it's a better film. And, it's fair to point out, if it actually is the case that there's a sexual divide. But, who's problem is it if more women haven't worked to become film critics?
/r/MensRights21/06/18 02:51 PM
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Yeah, what they're saying now is it's very different when a woman does it. It's actually only assault when a man does it. And, there's truth to that: women get pissed when they get sexual attention a LOT more than men do. So, maybe they'll write the law for equality. Then they'll only arrest and accuse men. MGTOW. Who GIVES A FUCK what women want. Ignore 'em.
/r/MensRights21/06/18 02:47 PM
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Fill me in: how does that hurt the dead guy, or any of his relatives? I mean, I can see where the idea is troublesome, but...
/r/MensRights21/06/18 02:41 PM
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MGTOW!! Hate away. Come back in 15 years, or so, and we'll renegotiate. Think it will help the planet if we have 15 years worth of NO NEW PEOPLE? The other reason I like MGTOW is that it really helps with all the misandry. Don't like men? Fine. I can find better things to do.
/r/MensRights20/06/18 01:58 PM
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This is also, to me, the main reason why MGTOW makes so much sense for men. It doesn't work for men to live with women in these times. I like women, personally, but it's just a very bad deal for men.
/r/MensRights20/06/18 01:54 PM
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The whole deal with underage is that it doesn't matter what the young person's wishes are. This is very clear to us when it involves young females. They need to be protected, if from nothing else, from pregnancy. Young males need the same protection.
/r/MensRights20/06/18 01:48 PM
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Thanks for the tips, but I already know how not to rape women. You need to go find the minority of men who do, and teach them.
/r/MensRights19/06/18 08:56 PM
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Some women hate men. Ok. Those are good women to avoid. Maybe we could get them to wear a uniform?
/r/MensRights19/06/18 08:54 PM
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Disagree. One should be able to photograph whatever one can see. If women are going to make their underwear visible, that's on them. Wear pants if you don't want pictures taken.
/r/MensRights19/06/18 08:51 PM
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PROGRESS!!! Halle-Fucking-lujah!!!
/r/MensRights19/06/18 08:49 PM
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Fact is, a minority of men rape women. If ALL men are responsible for that minority, then ALL humans are responsible for every evil action any human ever committed. I don't buy it.
/r/MensRights19/06/18 08:48 PM
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So, I'll gravitate towards the ones that say nice things about us. So far, most of the gravitating is only going in one direction. I do like women, overall. I've simply had it with so many who seem to have had it with us. There are better things to do.
/r/MensRights18/06/18 09:41 PM
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Ah! How dare you point out that the emperor has no clothes?! But, you know the reason. Male feminists, at worst, sell out other men to curry favor with women, so all the men who feel like feminism is mostly about hating men, have quite a prejudice about the men who support them. They aren't given the benefit of the doubt that a non-feminist man would receive. People are prejudiced. MRAs are people. MRAs are prejudiced. More than others? Yes and no.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 03:19 PM
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They picked a woman as victim, even though males suicide at a much higher rate, because we culturally sympathize with women, and culturally suspect men. Which isolates men emotionally.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 03:15 PM
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REVERSE THE GENDERS...and the young man is considered lucky. But we're so conditioned to see men as perpetrators, and women as victims, that it's only in minority forums like this one that we're allowed to discuss that. Everywhere else, people follow the narrative of men-are-bad/women-are-good. That tells us how overwhelming the story is written into the fabric of our culture, and our lives, that women should receive our help and consideration, while men should receive, at best, our suspicion. S…
/r/MensRights16/06/18 03:09 PM
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My extremely limited understanding is that he propositioned a number of women in a way that involved trading sex for career advancement. Women don't like that. The notion that women were willing to trade sex for career advancement doesn't seem to bother them, though. Women KNOW that sex is power for them, AND they don't want to be penalized for using it as power. Only the power of (rich) men is a problem.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 02:56 PM
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Go right ahead. MGTOW!!! Men and women should go their own ways for a while, without the expectation that we will end up together. When we come back together (else the human race ends) maybe we can do it in a way that works for both men and women.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 02:54 PM
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Honestly, I think misogyny is mostly a response to misandry. I never saw so much of it until feminists started denouncing men in the 60s. Group identity stuff: tell me my group are the worst people on the planet, and I'll start to think the same way about your group.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 02:36 PM
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...because other women support that. I suspect they tell themselves it's ok, because men do it. But, it's NOT ok that men do it. See, one justifies the other, but not in reverse.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 02:22 PM
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Time to move on.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 02:21 PM
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This is like leaving all my windows open and my shades down, and then demanding that people be arrested for looking in. Bullshit. Put some clothes on!!
/r/MensRights16/06/18 02:20 PM
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If i hang my butt out where it can be seen, that's my problem. Same with women. This is bullshit.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 02:08 PM
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It's the notion that women need to be informed that men are decent people that makes me lean MGTOW. Don't like us? Fine. I'll take my toys and go play somewhere else. The world is changing, and maybe it's time for men to change away from old ways of being with women, maybe to being a lot less with women.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 02:05 PM
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Agreed. I don't like seeing women called cunts and thots. I think holding that much disrespect and maybe outright hatred is a sign of some serious pain and aggression. And, I don't feel the same way about the body count that women may have. A lot of MGTOW really seem to see a major difference between men having a fair amount of sexual experience and women having the same. Doesn't bother me, unless it's to some major extreme. MGTOWs equate to radical feminists for me. I'm very prejudiced, so I gr…
/r/MensRights16/06/18 02:01 PM
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No, the problem is marriage, and what women want it to be. They want to throw the man out, and keep the house, children, and as much money as they can get. The only reason men go in for this is that we delude ourselves into thinking it won't happen to us.
/r/MensRights15/06/18 10:33 PM
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Well, that's one view on it. It has some merit, IMHO. But, the single reason that MGTOW holds value for men is that it tells men not to marry or live with women. Something like 50% of marriages end in divorce (2nd time around even higher), with women initiating around 70% of them. Then the man loses his home, his children, half his wealth, and a significant portion of his income. In no other area of life would a sensible person take on that much risk. "You have to be special kind of insane to th…
/r/MensRights15/06/18 09:30 PM
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Advertising works to sway people. That's why companies spend so much on it. And, women prefer to think of men as doofuses. They spend the majority of money, even if men average more income, and that's the way they like it. So companies will continue to tell them men are, at best, harmlessly stupid.
/r/MensRights15/06/18 09:18 PM
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One reads that women do the majority of spending. So, in catering to them, it won't hurt manufacturers who produce such ads to continue them.
/r/MensRights15/06/18 09:17 PM
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PDF (free online downloadable version) at http://naturalthinker.net/trl/texts/Vilar,Esther/The_manipulated_man.pdf
/r/MensRights15/06/18 09:11 PM
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Good! We can stop protecting women from imaginary issues, and focus on men.
/r/MensRights15/06/18 09:07 PM
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"Marriage and divorce are both common experiences. In Western cultures, more than 90 percent of people marry by age 50. Healthy marriages are good for couples’ mental and physical health. They are also good for children; growing up in a happy home protects children from mental, physical, educational and social problems. However, about 40 to 50 percent of married couples in the United States divorce. The divorce rate for subsequent marriages is even higher." - American Psychological Association. …
/r/MensRights15/06/18 01:56 PM
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