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Since it got removed, here's a better title: r/GenderCritical goes full-scale melt-down about how -all- men are terrible and will always be terrible.

AiroDewitt

March 3, 2019
57 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/awksbk/it_is_men_it_has_always_been_men/
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Title Since it got removed, here's a better title: r/GenderCritical goes full-scale melt-down about how -all- men are terrible and will always be terrible.
Author

AiroDewitt

Upvotes 57
Comments 45
Date March 3, 2019 1:23 AM UTC
(7 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/awox49/since_it_got_removed_heres_a_better_title/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/since-it-got-removed-heres-a-better-title.1181234
https://theredarchive.com/post/1181234
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Any thoughts?

507 upvotes
December 7, 2018
/r/MensRights

This is absolutely disgusting. Dad's in jail, kid goes back with meth head mother. The law only applies when the father wants to keep the child safe.

75 upvotes
October 13, 2018
/r/MensRights

Apparently we're the cause of unwanted pregnancy too. Since, apparently, all women lack the ability to buy condoms, or ya know, are obviously too innocent and pure to like sex without one.

59 upvotes
September 18, 2018
/r/MensRights

Banned from r/Menslib for a seemingly harmless post on the whole Gillette commercial.

48 upvotes
January 15, 2019
/r/MensRights

Some good points here about female-on-male rape, the problem of female on female rape, the lack of sex offender list females, and more.

29 upvotes
November 14, 2018
/r/MensRights

Attempted to do something for international women's day in protest... Apparently I literally can't.

28 upvotes
March 9, 2018
/r/MensRights

Yet another mind-boggling experience.

14 upvotes
April 26, 2019
/r/MensRights

Holy fuck tickles in a hand basket. This is just absurd.

4 upvotes
March 3, 2019
/r/MensRights

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[–]iainmf 47 points48 points49 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Hating men is the logical conclusion of patriarchy theory.

This is why feminism is terrible for women as well as men. It views men as brutal tyrants and women as ineffective chattel.

I mean even if men had the advantage of physical strength and use that to dominate women, there is also tactics, strategy, weapons, subterfuge, diplomacy, rhetoric, co-operation etc. To suggest that women were ineffective at every kind of conflict resolution for 10,000 years make women look pretty bad. Basically, they are saying that men are superior to women.

[–]w1g2 21 points22 points23 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Seriously can't understand why women don't get this. To believe patriarchy theory is to believe women were so unintelligent, so totally unable to negotiate or manipulate that they could be deeply oppressed for thousands of years until the last two centuries when things started turning around. And what was the great mechanism that allowed women to finally fight back against those evil male tyrants? Well they, um... talked about things, and they wrote books, and they gave speeches and had rallies. But believe me, that could never have happened at any time before then!

[–]iainmf 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And what was the great mechanism that allowed women to finally fight back against those evil male tyrants? Well they, um... talked about things, and they wrote books, and they gave speeches and had rallies. But believe me, that could never have happened at any time before then!

That seems like something evil tyrants would crack down on. Men must suck at being evil.

[–]valenin 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I couldn’t say if it is the motivation, but there is a deeply narcissistic potential motivation for believing such a narrative.

If you’ve been oppressed by a group literally since the dawn of humanity, and you can convince yourself (or anyone else) that you were the one to throw off the shackles, to triumph where hundreds or thousands of generations before you failed, that’s a pretty intoxicating ego hit. Tens of thousands of years of humanity, and your gender didn’t have a chance until you came along. You’re so strong, you go girl!

[–]iainmf 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That sounds a lot like the 'one good man' narrative you see with male feminists, except rather than throwing off the shackles they are the hero rescuing the oppressed.

Like when they 'check their privilege' and a knowledge that they are a member of the more powerful group. It the ultimate humble brag.

[–]xNOM 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hating men is the logical conclusion of patriarchy theory.

It's not the conclusion. It's the starting point.

[–]PrismMage 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

To suggest that women were ineffective at every kind of conflict resolution for 10,000 years make women look pretty bad. Basically, they are saying that men are superior to women.

LOL *fist bump*

[–][deleted] 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

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[–]shinypants117 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

o no theyre actuallt is a female incel subreddit and its worse r/trufemcels although tbh i can't tell if its a troll or not

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[–]rahsoft 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i looked at femcels and all i could think of is

first world problems....

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"Anyone wish they were gay? I would have better success as a dyke."

"Anyone else considers go live on a mountain or forest somewhere?"

"To the Men Who Have Just Discovered The Femcel Sub. Femcels, please see note."

"Somehow managed to get a bf, but he like everyone else is not attracted to my face"

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where do they find the time lol...

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[–]AiroDewitt 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Just one thing about this: "female incel" doesn't require the "female" part. It's a genderless term.

[–]PrismMage 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

In theory you are right, but I'd argue that specifying female incel is necessary because too many people have the warped idea that only men can be incels.

[–]AiroDewitt 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess that's fair.

[–]RoughWedding 15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

"Let's all boycott sex with men!"

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Ya, have fun with that.

[–]RacelessSexlessName 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They'll be like my lady... she's bi and broke up with a long term same sex partner because, well, she likes real cock better than fake cock.

[–]Luchadorgreen 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not gonna be that effective as long as porn is legal. 😙

[–]rahsoft 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wish they would, because only the ugly, nasty, self righteous fems would keep this up for more than 24 hours, leaving everyone else the chance to get on with more meaningful things in their lives...

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lot less chance of false rape accusations as well if they would only plug a cork in it..

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[–]mgtowolf 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A whole lot of mentally disturbed people in the world.

[–]Luchadorgreen 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

There a reason other “hate subs” have been banned but that one hasn’t been?

[–]valenin 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s because misandry don’t real.

/s

[–]TrumpCardStrategy 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No surprise it isn’t banned because it’s an anti-man sub, the surprising part is it hasn’t been banned because it’s also an anti-trans sub.

[–][deleted] 7 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]lasciate 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Your average feminist that's accepted the basis of feminist theory will play around with these ideas but refuse to ever really believe it because it's such a shocking belief to hold

Most people are questioned on beliefs like that and find it untenable to think that way (because of the hypocrisy/cognitive dissonance required). People in an echo chamber don't experience that questioning, so they can hold onto whatever nonsensical ideas they can dream up.

[–]RacelessSexlessName 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Doesn't surprise me one bit... I lurk a few feminist subs and some of the wackjobs that post... they must never leave their house and live in constant fear the entire world is out to destroy them. Total nutjobs that should be committed to an insane asylum.

Do these morons not realize they aren't even the majority of victims of violent crimes? Nor are they the majority of those that are first responders to help people in these situations?

[–]iainmf 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

http://archive.fo/vUNgf just in case.

[–]DubsPackage 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Protip : When you think half the population sucks, the problem is usually you.

[–]growl360 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What the fuck. I didn't know subs like that even existed

[–]__pulsar 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

My first thought when I read that post and the comments responding to it was that they're delusional, which they are, but then it just made me sad.

My Dad, my step Dad, my two brothers, my brother in law, my uncles...each and every one of them would give you the shirt off their back if you needed it. They would help you move if you asked, they would help you change a flat tire or repair a damaged door. Most, if not all, would jump in front of harms way to protect a complete stranger.

To see them demonized like this makes me sad. (and yes, it also makes me angry)

[–]RacelessSexlessName 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

To them that is just male privilege to have been given the chance to learn to do those things and the 'protecting' part is patriarchy because it paints the women as weak and needing protected... I wonder how they justify DV/IPV/Rape shelter logic since those purely 'protect women' and they are ran by feminists 😂

They really believe this stuff, just like antivaxxers and flat earthers respectively.

[–]goodmod[M] 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Thank you, that is a far better title!

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Readers are cautioned that it's bad rediquette to vote or comment on subreddits to which they don't subscribe.

[–]AiroDewitt 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No problem. That's for the input. I try to be as helpful as possible, but I don't want to stir the pot too much. You are indeed a goodmod, goodmod. ;)

[–]RacelessSexlessName 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't subscribe to many subs that I frequent... I don't want that garbage in my home feed nor in my lists.

[–]Meyright2 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Have you spoken to the admins about linking to other subs, or is there another reason you allow "brigading" without np-links? Could'nt it get r/mensrights banned?

[–]goodmod 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Since the admins introduced the crossposting function, it's less of an issue.

NP has never been an actual reddit rule - it's always been completely voluntary.

Nevertheless I do remove any post that seems to be an attempt by the author to drum up support for their own comments in another subreddit. That's actual brigading.

[–]V_Dumb_Comment_V 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Reddit so woke rn /s

https://youtu.be/Oa_QtMf6alU

[–]mantrap2 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just, wow!

I wish humans were all the same build, its childish but sexual dimorphism is unfair.

LOL LOL LOL LOL

How out of touch with reality do you have to really be to think let alone say something like this. O. M. G.

Biology is a bitch but she ain't going away. The ignorance of basic science in this is so profound.

My sister is a VP of a well-known biotech firm and I've worked in biotech as well so being this out of touch about basic scientific realities is essentially as the level of "Flat Earth", "Moon Landing Hoax" and "Anti-VAX" level of willful ignorance!

[–]full_control 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And yet I post this unpopularopinion and it's removed for not being controversial:

https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/awv4e4/hating_men_as_a_whole_makes_you_a_bigot/

I linked to the crosspost because it has the original content.

[–]neverXmiss -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

Its reddits like that that i believe mensrights should start banning based on where they are subscribed. It's starting to become toxic on their part and should be ignored accordingly. Addressing any threads there is like discussing if a 5 year old has a valid point.

Nothing of value will come out of that discussion and there is nothing you can do to convince that bag of cats thread they are out of their mind.

Any curious from those type of threads can always create a throwaway account venture into other threads.

[–]AiroDewitt 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

We're trying to be better than other subreddits who ban people basedon where they post. That doesn't allow discussion. It just leads to divisiveness. We are trying to be better and we should be.

[–]neverXmiss -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Putting your head down wont do anything. No different than a domestic violence victim just keeping his/her head down while getting verbally abused and "trying to be better than him/her." It's literal vitriol and keeping that "person" open for invite to your house is not exactly smart.

You dont put your head down, you get a restraining order against that person, you avoid that person, you ignore that person.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No, it's standing tall with your head up and arms open.

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You can't change other people's minds if you pretend they don't exist.

[–]neverXmiss 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Vitriol should indeed be ignored. Call me crazy, but you can't reason with the unreasonable.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

and r/ GenderCritical screams vitriol.

[–]goodmod 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

On the other hand, I think we should post examples, just to show what hatred lurks out there.

[–]neverXmiss 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree.

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