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If the dine and dash dater was a woman would this be news even? I have seen this all over national media, when I know of several women who use tinder as a free meal ticket its even happened to me yet pitchforks are out for this man and now their putting some new charges on him.

codyjoe

September 10, 2018
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/r/MensRights
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/09/dine-and-dash-dater-who-allegedly-left-dates-with-pricey-bills-faces-new-charges.amp.html
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Title If the dine and dash dater was a woman would this be news even? I have seen this all over national media, when I know of several women who use tinder as a free meal ticket its even happened to me yet pitchforks are out for this man and now their putting some new charges on him.
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codyjoe

Upvotes 42
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Date September 10, 2018 8:15 AM UTC
(7 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
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[–]bitterbut_true 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He's probably gay. That gives him the time to think clearly, plot, without his dick getting in the way. A normal hetero guy would prioritize sex.

[–]TheDongerNeedsFood 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

While what he did was certainly wrong and he deserves to be punished, a woman doing this would NEVER be charged with a felony. Moreover, the restaurant would never excuse the man from the bill the way they did with several of these women.

[–]mikesteane 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What's the probability that this all started when someone pulled the same stunt on him, (maybe even more than one woman)?

[–]ActionJaxson 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don’t care for this argument. Jetting on a meal is not equivalent to expecting it to be paid for by company that stays for the duration. The former is obviously worse. If guys are having trouble with this it’s as simple as being a man and suggesting to split the check or prior to the date being explicit that it’s not even a date, it’s a getting aquatinted sort of thing. This isn’t the hill to die on.

[–]akamustacherides 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Imagine getting back every dollar spent on a date that didn't pan out? He probably bolted on the women he didn't feel a connection with and stayed for dessert with the others.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He’s a professional thief. One of his charges is for running out of a hair salon after an appointment without paying.

[–]fasterfind 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

He's pretty much stealing from women and restaurants.

It sucks that women never pay for their food, but this isn't exactly the same thing. We know who's expected to pay, and we're not faced with a date that just up and leaves in the middle of the meal.

So false equivalency. Amusement material at best.

That said, I do find it very amusing because those women were expecting:
1. Free food and entertainment
2. Possibly sex

Men expect possible sex, and we get stuck with the bill while women never put out under any circumstances. So this is a funny form of justice. For once, women get lead on and come out behind or empty handed. Just desserts.

[–]codyjoe[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

the point is if women want equality then they should be treated equal in the eyes of the law and society. 28 years in prison for dashing on dinner dates is ridiculous and if a woman intends to go on a date with a man and then never has anything to do with him again then its the same thing extortion is extortion of course I know of other guys who have had the same experience where women use the date as a free meal. This is mens rights take that feminist shit out of here and go back to whatever vile sub they lurk on.

[–]thrway_1000 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Archive -- https://archive.is/ejvX3

[–]trygold 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Are we now defending dishonesty a fraud?

[–]herkandjerk 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Nope we’re noting how something that women have been able to do with little or no fuss becomes international news and a federal case if a guy does.

[–]trygold 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

So women have been inviting men out to buy them dinner and leaving to stick them with the check? If he wants to make a point about the continued social norm of men paying all the dating expensive refuse to go out with anyone that thinks men should pay. Men being expected pay for everything is something that would be nice if we could change that. Dodging out on a bill when you have told someone you were going to pay is fraud. Women going on dates to get a free lunch is also an issue that would be solved by not making men pay the norm. It is all the same issue.

The Norm as I see it ( and I am not condoning it) Is that men pay for the date with no expectation of dating success.

This man is not a hero to the cause and backing him will only hurt our cause.

[–]turbulance4 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

So women have been inviting men out to buy them dinner and leaving to stick them with the check?

IMHO this whole case hinges on whether this guy said "let me buy you dinner" or "let's have dinner together".

[–]trygold 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

If the conversation at the end of dinner started with "your order comes to" or him handing her the check and saying thank you for dinner then you would be correct. He was leaving without paying.

[–]turbulance4 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

Ok. I wasn't clear. This is being painted as "this guy was defrauding the women he's dating." My point was that he was not unless he told the women he would buy the meal. He was defrauding the restaurants either way

[–]trygold 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

"this guy was defrauding the women here's the dating."

He snuck out on them when they were expecting him to pay. He let them believe he was going to pay. He did this multiple times. It was calculated purposeful fraud. As I said before he is not a men's rights advocate or someone we should hold up as an example. Doing so taints the men's rights movement. Peoples support for him will be pointed at as an example of what is wrong with the men's rights movement.

[–]turbulance4 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

they were expecting him to pay

Should only be true, if he said that he would pay. That's the only point in trying to make here.

[–]trygold 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If we want to talk about the fact that men are expected to pay for the date then talk about it. As I have said in another post I would like to see that change but that is unlikely to happen. Had he at the end of the meal said "and your portion comes to xxx" then he would be making the point. He did not. He skipped out on a bill he had allowed her to believe he was going to pay. It was calculated fraud and people are applauding him for it because "fuck women ". Grow the fuck up and stand up for men's rights not for childish petty revenge on strangers because some woman let you pay for dinner and never intended to go out with you.

[–]turbulance4 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

We're going in circles so this will be my last response

allowed her to believe he was going to pay.

I refuse to accept that women are supposed to get free meals. It's not calculated fraud against the date, unless he indicated he would pay and did not. If she choose to assume he'd be paying that's her problem.

[–]codyjoe[S] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No pointing out that if this was a woman and she had “got caught” (they never do) that this would not be on the national news on nearly every news outlet it was literally on the national news....like he is a murderer or something.

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