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The myth that men only want one thing

PeterWrightMGTOW

November 11, 2019
97 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.avoiceformen.com/sexual-politics/the-myth-that-men-only-want-one-thing/
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Title The myth that men only want one thing
Author

PeterWrightMGTOW

Upvotes 97
Comments 15
Date November 11, 2019 11:11 AM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/duqzuc/the_myth_that_men_only_want_one_thing/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/the-myth-that-men-only-want-one-thing.1202812
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[–][deleted] 62 points63 points64 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

To be loved

[–]Oncefa2 36 points37 points38 points 6 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

I've tried making this argument before. A lot of people, men and women both, try to defend this stereotype though.

Women defend it because they can claim superiority over men, and use it to justify their own motives and failures.

Men can also use it to justify their failures with women though. "I still had sex with her so that's all that matters". No, you wanted more, and now you're spreading a negative stereotype about men to cope with your rejection.

I think a lot of men also spread this myth because it lowers the bar of what's considered "successful" with women, and men are often judged on this category. Getting with a lot of different women on a superficial level is easier than finding and keeping one who makes you happy.

[–]GreasyPeter 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminism has worked really hard to teach society that women shouldn't be slut-shamed. But men wanting to have sex is seen as dirty and nefarious. Some guys do just want to have sex, and that's okay too. Why do we need to see them as disgusting? As long as they're having sex with consensual adults, who cares if he's not looking for a relationship? From my experience, being single and happy with it is an excellent way to actually find a good mate and you tend to fall into a better fitting relationship when you're not looking for it.

[+]TheGreatConst -12 points-11 points-10 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Are you joking, right? The reality is - men want more things than women. Men want BOTH a lot of attractive sexual partners just for sex AND meaningful relationships with someone special (this is why through the history men highest in hierarchy always have had their own harems with multiple wives and concubines). While most women just want the latter. It doesn't make them "superior" in any way, lol. There is nothing negative about having just sex with someone. You can deny it all you want, but it isn't different from how overly religious people completely deny their sexuality.

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It is absurd that you think that most men always dream about relationships with "one chosen woman" and don't care about "just sex". It is self-deception. There wouldn't be porn-industry if for complete sexual satisfaction one woman would be enough. For men, sexuality is closely related to novelty. You can enjoy sex with a woman even without being romantically interested in her, like, at all. It is the reason why prostitution exists.

Also, getting a lot of high-quality women is much harder than getting just one - I'm sure you should understand something so obvious. Moreover, a woman's quality is somehow subjective criteria, while quantity - objective.

And last, but not least - for most women having casual relationships is a higher level of investment than having serious ones and standards become different (and usually higher) as well.

[–]Oncefa2 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

men want more things than women

I've actually always thought the opposite. This goes more into red pill territory (to be clear: I'm not a red piller) but men usually just want to be loved and to have a companion.

Women on the other hand want love / companionship, but they also want to be supported in various ways (ie financially), they want a ring and something official (ie marriage), they often want kids from a man, and I could probably list other things as well. The very fact that nagging is a stereotypical female behavior should speak volumes here.

And to counter your argument about harems or whatever: women are just as likely ty cheat as men, and are more likely to want an open relationship or to be polyamorous. Often wanting commitment, gifts, emotional connections, AND sex, from multiple people.

Some feminists have even argued that women should be allowed to do this, and the fact that men push for monogamy somehow means that men are oppressing women by limiting their options.

It doesn't make them "superior" in any way, lol

A lot of women pretentiously act like it does. That's where phrases like "men are pigs" come from. Not all women believe this, but most women who say things like that are being jaded when they say it.

And last, but not least - for most women having casual relationships is a higher level of investment than having serious ones and standards become different (and usually higher) as well.

A relationship requires a lot more investment from a man than from a woman.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is very big generalization of both sides

[–]Oncefa2 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe. But I think it provides a good alternative way of looking at it besides "men are animalistic fuck machines and women are refined emotional creatures".

[–]TheGreatConst -3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Please for the god's sake - learn a little bit about evolutionary biology and neuroscience. Everything I said is based on current theories in those sciences and backed by a lot of data that you can easily find with a little bit of googling.

You just trying to be a male version of the feminist. You can understand that long term relationships require A LOT OF more investment from a man, but why it isn't obvious to you that it exactly means that LTRs aren't the most beneficial sexual strategy for men? Humans are animals that are programmed by evolution based on how the world was tens of thousands of years ago. Back then woman needed someone to take care of her offspring, or else she will die together with a child. But she also needed someone to provide the best genes. So the best sexual strategy for human females is "alpha fucks, beta bucks". Marriage and religion both exist to counter this strategy.

For man, the best sexual strategy is to impregnate a bunch of women without taking any responsibility - so that his children were raised by someone else. You can't raise hundreds of your own children, but you can easily impregnate hundreds of women behind their husband's backs - like this your genes would be dominant in population very soon. Basically most of us are descendants of ancient alphas and cheating sluts.

Both of those are high risk - high reward strategies. A safe strategy for both sides with low risk and low reward is basically a traditional monogamous family that is enforced by society and without enforcement wouldn't be a viable strategy at all. Both men and women are horny animals, just men are horny for any more or less attractive woman, but women are horny only for the best men. It is obvious from statistics on online dating websites like Tinder.

Stop this nonsense about "not all men are like this, not all women are like this". On biological level - ALL humans like this, just we counter it with social norms, religion, personal choices, etc. Stop copying feminists in trying to ignore biology and facts.

" Some feminists have even argued that women should be allowed to do this, and the fact that men push for monogamy somehow means that men are oppressing women by limiting their options."

Wtf are you saying? No one forbids women from doing it now, lol. It is completely legal to have open relationships.

It seems you are missing one critical fact. Most men are just UNABLE to realize the most effective sexual strategy. It is impossible to have casual sex with many attractive women unless you have a strong game and charisma, or very good-looking or millionaire. So, of course, men will push for monogamy - because it is easier for most men just to provide resources in exchange for sex and love. But the facts are - nowadays women no longer need men to willingly provide resources to them. They can just force you with the government's help.

[–]lostapwbm 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Even if men did only want one thing (pussy), women want about 20 things from us in exchange for that one thing.

Probably the greatest argument to disprove the myth that “men only want one thing” is the fact that even in this day and age, men are overwhelmingly the ones that propose marriage.

How many men have been strongly hinted at, or outright told, that the woman expects him to propose if their relationship is to continue?

[–]2bitMatthews 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

All we want is to love and be loved in equal measure.

[–]ayoisonreddit 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

True

[–]GreasyPeter 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

interestingly however, people who mock the fuckboy also criticize slut shaming

I've been pointing this out for a while and every-time I mention it to a lady they find a way of brushing it off. We're shamed constantly for "not seeing it from the women's perspective" but NOBODY cares to look at anything from our perspective because they've already formed their stereotypes and opinions and it's uncomfortable to realize you might be wrong.

[–]Lion_amongst_gods 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Equality.

[–]ReasonableFrog 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Anyone can claim anything. I can claim that women only want one thing as well, which is to have babies. They don't care about their partner. And I'd argue that there are solid evidence to support this claim. See what I did there? I said a half-truth and used it to make you at least consider my crazy point of view. Half-truths are dangerous. And the left wing are using this method to break the bond between men and women.

[+]SaeidNj -7 points-6 points-5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

if a man say I'm not a rapist they think he lies. Men are rapists and liers in theire mind. Why?

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