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EU set to introduce mandatory 40% quota for women on company boards to boost equality

Fearless-File-3625

June 7, 2022
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https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/eu-set-introduce-quota-women-131847562.html
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Title EU set to introduce mandatory 40% quota for women on company boards to boost equality
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Date June 7, 2022 5:41 PM UTC
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[–]MelissaMiranti 72 points73 points74 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So now the range for women on boards is 40%-100% and the range for men in boards is 0%-60%. Yeah all those numbers are equal to one another.

[–]Fearless-File-3625[S] 28 points29 points30 points 4 years ago* (16 children) | Copy Link

European Union negotiators are expected to give final approval to the bloc's first-ever quota for the proportion of women on corporate boards, a lawmaker said on Tuesday, in a bid to boost representation and improve gender equality.The draft law would oblige listed companies in all 27 EU member countries to have women take up at least 40% of non-executive board seats, or that women occupy 33% of executive and non-executive roles combined.

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The next negotiating round, expected to be the last one, between the European Parliament and the 27 EU countries starts at 1300 GMT on Tuesday and Wolters was optimistic for a deal later in the day.

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She said the parliament was pushing for 2025 as the target date for achieving the board quotas, compared to 2027 in an earlier proposal. The sanction for failing to deliver was still under discussion, she said, with "naming and shaming" the laggards a potential compromise.

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Just last month a similar quota (though infinitely less discriminatory) in Cali was ruled unconstitutional. Maybe Court of Justice of the EU can do the same for this quota too, though I don't have much hope.

EDIT:

EU agrees ‘landmark’ 40% quota for women on corporate boards

According to the this article, Brexit is probably one of the main reasons,

The European Commission made its first proposal for a 40% quota on women on boards in 2012, but the plan was blocked by big member states including Germany and the UK.

In the UK, mandatory quotas were opposed by the then coalition Conservative-Liberal Democrat government, which preferred a voluntary approach led by Lord Mervyn Davies. That helped the UK become one of the best performers in Europe, with 39.1% of women sitting on FTSE100 boards by 2022, putting the UK second only to France in one international survey.

I don't know the details but on the surface, what UK is doing sounds infinitely more smarter than what EU has done.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn’t put my money on it. There are two aspects of democracy where the US is far ahead of the EU and that is constitutional protecting against discrimination based on sex and ethnicity, and protection of freedom of speech.

EU on the other hand have a constitutional protection against the death penalty.

It is also problematic that the human rights court in the EU is much weaker than the US Supreme Court when it comes to enforcing its rulings, so even if the EU rules this law as a violation of human right, each member state can just ignore it if they wish to do so.

[–]Fearless-File-3625[S] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

I don't know how EU works but isn't it weird that EU legislation can mandate such quotas on its member states but EU judiciary can't enforce its ruling ?

[–]rlyfunny 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

It can’t enforce that because it’s not the job of the EU. The EU mandates laws that have to be made in the countries, and after that it’s up to the individual country to enforce them.

It’s kind of weird for me though. I’m German, and technically such a law would be against art. 3 of what is essentially our constitution. But I guess that’s going to be ignored.

[–]Fearless-File-3625[S] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Article 12a is already ignoring article 3.

[–]rlyfunny 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

While I completely agree, one can argue that it’s just outdated. Though it may be worth a shot to actually sue against the state for that.

[–]Fearless-File-3625[S] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

So nobody has tried that yet ? to me it is clear as day that 12a is in direct contradiction with 3.

[–]rlyfunny 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Not to my knowledge, no. But art. 12a hasn’t been in use for a decade or longer, so it isn’t really in the minds of people these days

[–]Fearless-File-3625[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

I don't know much but what about article 79(3) which states that "Amendments to this Basic Law affecting the division of the Federation into Länder, their participation in principle in the legislative process, or the principles laid down in Articles 1 and 20 shall be inadmissible.". So is it impossible to amend 12a ?

[–]rlyfunny 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

Well there is the point. The principles can’t be changed. And the principle of art. 12a is the defence of the country. So changing it to include women should be legal

[–]zaphodbeebleblob 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

the human rights court in the EU

The EU doesn't have a human rights court, the Council of Europe (has nothing to do with the EU) has a court of human rights.

[–]Grow_peace_in_Bedlamleft-wing male advocate 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. And even though there is considerable overlap in membership between the CoE and the EU, they are entirely separate bodies. For example, despite Brexit, the UK remains a member of the CoE, with all the obligations this entails.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Isn’t there both the EU Court in Luxemburg, and the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg.

Luxemburg is a part of the European Union and is the judiciary power in the European Union’s trias politica system.

While the Strasbourg is correctly not a part of the EU but instead a part of the CoE.

But inside the EU, Luxemburg’s decisions trumps Strasbourg’s. And both institutions work with human rights violations. Although the one in Luxemburg have some limitations do to the inconsistent nature of the EU.

[–]PandaFoo1 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because employing based on gender is so progressive. Women should have the same opportunities yes, but they shouldn’t be handed to them. They need to prove themselves just like anyone else.

[–]NimishApteleft-wing male advocate 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Are we gonna introduce a 40% women mandatory jail quota? Just asking.

[–]GorchestopherH 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for nearly killing me.

[–]Ausiwandilaz 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

California USA has a law that fines any company not complying to the 40%

[–]NimishApteleft-wing male advocate 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That was struck down

[–]eyebrows360 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

While there is no penalty for missing the target, companies that do achieve it will win public praise.

Y'all are mad about literally nothing.

[–]Fearless-File-3625[S] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

National authorities, who are responsible for enforcing the directive, are empowered to impose fines. National courts can annul boardroom selections if a company breaks the law. The measures will not apply to companies with fewer than 250 employees.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/jun/07/eu-agrees-landmark-40-quota-for-women-on-corporate-boards

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