I attempted to make a video criticizing Alexander Grace

AceArguments · 2023-04-04T17:12:40+00:00

I watched Alexander Grace for some time. You were spot on, a lot of these Youtubers use some very casually manipulative tactics; stating things as facts or interjecting opinions mixed in with facts to fumble the information so you can't tell where the opinion starts and where the fact ends.

The worst is Chris Williamson who will get dismissive of information because it doesn't mesh with his ideology. His casually dismissive go to phrase is 'so it doesn't explain everything'. He pisses me off the most because he steers the conversation in very specifically one direction by asking very specific questions that lead to a certain conclusion. Or he'll assert something as a fact quickly so there's no rebuttal or time for the speaker to voice their opposition. He has many people on his channel who are ten times smarter than him with a PHD but he'll casually dismiss them on the grounds that they might be a 'feminist' or if they even show women in a good light. These experts have to just take the L and move on when he makes assertions that can easily be debunked because they just don't have the time to and it's his show so he gets to choose whether it continues or not. He's so ideologically driven but none of the guys see that. They all just nod and agree in the comments. They only hear what they want to hear.

The other thing I see Alexander Grace and Chris Williamson do is the 'fill in the blank'. So they'll state a fact but not give the necessary background information of why. They'll also not take the idea to its natural conclusion, letting the viewer 'fill in the blank' with their preconceived notions.

I'm glad you were able to break down the things that were wrong and point out manipulation tactics. Many people are passive consumers of this and when you don't have any rebuttals in your mind, you let the ideology take over.

Great hearing from you. Awesome breakdown. I really liked the video.

StarTrippinn · 2023-04-07T17:25:08+00:00

I watched this and then started to fall asleep and then I dreamed that I was at your house lol. Where are you from btw? Also, you made some great points. I will say that as women, we also feel a certain pressure of being the "good girl" vs the "fun girl." Men well often say that they won't wife the "fun girl" but they will cheat on their wives and girlfriends with them.

They will like these women's pictures, hook up with them, spend years in situationships with them, fall in love with them, and then after they have their fun, go try to wife the good girl because she is the safe and motherly option. One man told the fun girl, "You have my heart but she (a woman he was engaged to while seeing the two of them)has my head."

citedesdames · 2023-04-13T11:04:15+00:00

Excellent critique and I commend you for confronting Alexander.

You highlight well how red pillers feed and validate all of men's insecurities to men's detriment, and sabotage their relationships for profit. Men don't need more red pillers telling men that "no woman is biologically capable of loving them back". It's not just self sabotage when men say things like this to an audience, they're also ruining other people's relationships when they state such things with confidence as if it were an evidence based fact, rather than an expression of their own nagging self doubts and cynicism. It's the obfuscation of fears/feelings with facts that's on a sliding scale of dehumanization.

On the women's dating advice side of things there are also a couple of "male dating coaches" who tell women "what men think" and it's similarly dehumanizing of men (and women). I wish more people analyzed the motivations of these dating coaches, and realized that unless their claim is backed by a thorough meta-analysis then it's just one guy's (stupid) personal opinion. And not even an analysis of a study is free of bias. Can the guy even read studies?

And anyone can claim to be a dating coach! I could claim to be a dating coach tomorrow! There are a lot of "universally verified stereotypes" about genders that aren't actually facts at all, they're just the illusory truth effect in action.

Enough_Newspaper176 · 2025-07-01T05:32:31+00:00

I'm a little late to the conversation but interested in watching your video. However it's private so it won't allow me to watch

Title	I attempted to make a video criticizing Alexander Grace
Author	lordDandas
Upvotes	12
Comments	10
Date	April 4, 2023 12:24 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/ExRedPill
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