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Matthew Lawrence: My Agency 'Fired Me' for Not Stripping for Director

Futureman999

April 30, 2023
628 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://variety.com/2023/film/news/matthew-lawrence-agency-fired-marvel-1235598782/
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Title Matthew Lawrence: My Agency 'Fired Me' for Not Stripping for Director
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Futureman999

Upvotes 628
Comments 35
Date April 30, 2023 8:15 AM UTC
(3 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/133jgjn/matthew_lawrence_my_agency_fired_me_for_not/
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[–]ThirdTurnip 219 points220 points221 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Interesting language:

“Not a lot of guys in my opinion have come out and talked about this in the industry,” Lawrence said. “Now granted, it’s probably about a third of what women go through. Men go through this as well… I think our society is less ready to hear that situation is going on with men than they are with women.”

When Kit Harrington complained about objectification and sexism, he was successfully pressured to retract the sexism claim.

https://metro.co.uk/2017/10/24/kit-harington-regrets-moaning-about-sexism-against-men-in-hollywood-7023719/

Lawrence has carefully framed this as still mostly a women's problem but one which men also experience. Though society is "less ready" to hear about men.

[–]Futureman999[S] 154 points155 points156 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

‘At some points during photoshoots when I’m asked to strip down, I felt that. If I felt I was being employed just for my looks, I’d stop acting,’ he added to the Sunday Times.

And don't forget Henry Cavill:

Henry Cavill reportedly refused to do all shirtless scenes in ‘The Witcher’

“He decided that he didn’t want any romantic scenes at all. No kissing, no shirtless scenes, etc.”

Haha it's "romantic" when women want to get a lady-boner from male actors. /s

Interesting that criticism had to be couched as Cavill is such an uncooperative dick, amiright?

[–]Darthwxman 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Season 2 if I remember correctly had zero female nudity, at least from the main characters, so he was probably thinking... why exactly am I the only one that's supposed to be naked all time?

[–]A_blue_horse 58 points59 points60 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I remember this entire farce. And there was absolutely no excuse for this he never tried to undermine sexism against women I assume he was targeted because he dared suggesting sexism against men is even a thing

[–]critical_Bat 25 points26 points27 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It was the only way for him to get favorable coverage and not a huge backlash from the public.

This is the problem with dealing every issue by gender or group. Experiences of individual matter more or less depending on group identity. It is such a stupid and destructive way of viewing life.

[–]Magical-Hummus 37 points38 points39 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just like the story of Terry Crews.

[–]asianabsinthe 58 points59 points60 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Was at the bar at weeks ago and a drunk woman started hitting on a guy with his wife sitting next to him. Kept saying he was gorgeous and that he should go coyote ugly on the bar. The couple looked uncomfortable but no one would say anything. I didn't because I could tell she would've started yelling and making the situation worse. Bartenders didn't do anything as well.

Thinking back I find it interesting that it's ingrained in us to defend a woman if this is happening to her, but not say anything if it happens to a guy.

[–]ThirdTurnip 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It might be more than just ingrained to not defend a guy.

If a woman willing to do that comes to feels threatened by you in the age of believe-all-women....

Attempting to deal with her could literally destroy your life unless you video recorded the exchange.

[–]dw87190 110 points111 points112 points 3 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

To all the feminists that claim this isn't a majority male issue: "I told you so"

[–]ThirdTurnip 61 points62 points63 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

They'll claim that acting is different.

Male celebrities nearly uniformly need to be spectacularly attractive.

Other men don't so won't be affected by this.

[–]dw87190 41 points42 points43 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes but being sacked (or being threatened with it) for not enabling female perpetrated sexual harassment and worse is an issue for men across multiple industries

[–]ThirdTurnip 20 points21 points22 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

True though in this case he identifies the Marvel director as male.

the actor alleges, a prominent director “showed up in his robe, asked me to take my clothes off, said he needed to take Polaroids of me and said if I did X, Y and Z, I would be the next Marvel character.”

[–]darthnugget 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like the Director is into men. Not sure if the world is ready to talk about how Men objectify other men yet, but all humans should be treated with dignity.

[–]WorldTravellerr 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

‘Majority male issue’? Both genders are treated like meat in Hollywood.

[–]dw87190 31 points32 points33 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Remind me, when exactly is Amber Heard's criminal trial for spousal abuse, grievous bodily harm, defamation, libel and perjury?

[+]WorldTravellerr -25 points-24 points-23 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Depp and heard are both not facing trial despite both making allegations.

[–]dw87190 33 points34 points35 points 3 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

Depp already faced trial. He beat improbable odds, odds rigged against men by feminism and proved his innocence, and then some. Amber Heard should be in prison and the only thing keeping her out is female privilege

[+]WorldTravellerr -16 points-15 points-14 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

That was not a criminal trial. Depp chose to go to trial since he sued her for defamation. Depps innocence was never on trial. The trial was to find out if heard was guilty of defamation.

[–]dw87190 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

And does that somehow preclude a criminal case regarding Heard's crimes against him and the legal system? Is America that broken or is it just feminism getting in the way?

[+]WorldTravellerr 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

No. But it means neither Depp nor heard have faced trial or been convicted of abuse. So it’s not fair to assume either of them are abusive. Innocent until proven guilty is important.

[–]dw87190 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Amber Heard has been proven guilty? Unless I've misread something, I thought Depp proved Heard guilty of domestic violence and grievous bodily /to/ prove her defamation?

[–]sakura_drop 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Innocent until proven guilty is important.

Yes it is, except we have evidence of Heard admitting to abuse and taunting Depp about it, long before either trial actually occurred.

And she is the one with a history of domestic assault against a former partner, which was deflected by accusations of misogyny and homophobia against the arresting officer... who is a woman and a lesbian.

[–]_Blood_Manos_ 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They missed an important acting credit. He was a voice actor in Kiki's Delivery Service.

[–]SD_TMI 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I’ll take a swing at this

I think the director that they’re talking about is Brian Singer who directed the early X-Men films and is known for targeting and molesting multiple teen and other young men

[–]Terrible_Head_8847 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don’t think he did anything Marvel? Although that’s not to say that he didn’t make out there was something in the pipeline, and it could even have been true at the time he said it.

[–]SD_TMI 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001741/

and

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/bryan-singers-traumatic-x-men-set-movie-created-a-monster-1305081/

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/hugh-jackman-x-men-bryan-singer-b2256865.html

[–]YesAmAThrowaway 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Intimacy coordinators: they wanted you to do WHAT? Hell naw! Tell me who and I will beat them up!

[–]XoXSmotpokerXoX 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I will treat this with the same skepticism I treated half of the metoo stories.

Washed up child actor, who wont name agency that supposedly fired him, offered role in billion dollar franchise that mainly just cast very popular well known actors, a role where a spandex suit of some kind will be required, if only he stripped down.

A lot of you make a lot of great points in this thread. About society, and the industry. That said, I do not believe all women, and I do not believe all men. This just sounds like someone that has not been relevant since 1997 wanted to pump up his podcast numbers. If he is truly outraged and his words are true, name names, name the agency. Not like it will hurt his acting career.

[–]amakusa360 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This just sounds like someone that has not been relevant since 1997 wanted to pump up his podcast numbers.

Men never receive attention as sexual abuse victims, so there is much less incentive than women to lie about it.

If he is truly outraged and his words are true, name names, name the agency. Not like it will hurt his acting career.

If he names anyone he would be blacklisted from the industry and harassed by feminists, it would absolutely hurt his career.

[–]XoXSmotpokerXoX -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

there is much less incentive than women to lie about it.

Attention starved child actor needing attention on their podcast is plenty of reason. How many child actors of either gender come up well balanced...

blacklisted from the industry and harassed by feminists, it would absolutely hurt his career.

Check his credits, he has not had a real role in 25 years. He has royalties to live off of. His acting career has been over.

And why would feminists attack a man saying how disgusting men are?

[+]cjgager 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

may agree with you to a certain extent - but no director needs to "be in his robe" in a hotel room to check out anyone's physique - if truly professional all you need is someone to slip into a bathing suit by the pool - that includes males & females.
& matthew is probably right - few men want to discuss this issue - but that is how to change things. if this really goes on the people who do this need to be called out.

[–]XoXSmotpokerXoX 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

but no director needs to "be in his robe"

Doubtful that was true, and even if he was in his robe does not mean he was naked. Sitting in shorts and a tshirt, hotel air gets cold you put on a robe..... yeah I agree, IF that was true, not real professional. But it is not something that would surprise me of someone given 200 million to make a movie.

if this really goes on the people who do this need to be called out.

I will never understand silent victims. If someone randomly shoots at you and you make it into your home safely you probably might want to call the police just in case someone was not going to be as lucky as you. Dont wait until years later and there is no proof. I understand it might be traumatic at the time, maybe even embarrassing, but you owe it to society to prevent more bad things from happening.

After thinking about it some more, the only possible role I can see this washed up actor being offered in the Marvel franchise was one of the elfs in the shitty Thor movie. Literally every other movie he would be laughable in any talking role. It is a billion dollar franchise, they can bring in someone like Matt Damon to play a fool for 5 lines.

I would love to hear what supposed role he was supposed to read for. But that would involve specifics, which can then be followed up on for truth.

[–]Interesting_Mango948 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Whoa!

[–]Rude_Shock343 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

comments are a shit show, as expected

[–]Rude_Shock343 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

lets not forget Brendan Fraiser

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