Affirmative action for male education- not the answer.

63daddy · 2023-09-10T19:33:26+00:00

AA for men is absolutely not the solution, just as it’s not for minorities.

Males have fallen behind in education due to purposeful discrimination such as the Women’s Educational Equity Act. The way to address the problem is to undo the discrimination.

Mindful-genius · 2023-09-10T22:19:11+00:00

So they beat on men for 40 years and now they wonder why fewer men go to college. Liberals really are stupid people.

OldEgalitarianMRA · 2023-09-10T16:18:18+00:00

I agree. Elementary and other lower level schools are totally misandrist on purpose. I'm old and watched it happen. Boys are considered broken girls and besides not getting good grades are graduating at rates of only 70% from high school in the US.

This needs to start at the national level and a Commission on Boys would help align the teaching establishment to these new goals.

But I think he's also right the NYT's just wants to rile up feminists with male quotas.

TabulaRasa5678 · 2023-09-10T18:50:34+00:00

This video is somewhat false anyway. DEI has nudged white men further out of anything. It may apply to non-white males, though.

MembershipWooden6160 · 2023-09-11T01:47:01+00:00

There's plenty of dishonesty with "notion" about something that's not even going to be implemented. So that's first thing. Second thing, there's a whole list of reasons why boys and young men lag in academic success.

#1 First key part starts at social conditioning at school and within the society that education is important for women - not for men. Media instilled this attitude to parents, so there are plenty of parents who enroll their boys into school without proper or any preparation - subjecting them to future failures because they can't keep up with the school material and they become your common class jesters instead, since they can't keep up with the materials and classroom is even less likely to help them out to catch up.

#2 Second big part that's contributing is lack of fathers at homes - I cannot stress how big of a difference does this make, but if you are a parent you may check on any school meetings and you'll notice just how huge of a difference does it make for boys - so the "certain optional parent not being present" is another way of directly and severely sabotaging these boys' academic success.

#3 Third important part is the educational system itself, which is skewed at pushing girls forward, keeping them interested and catering to their needs, while it actively discourages boys, or penalizes them via various quotas, special tuitions for girls, even if they are doing better than girls at certain subjects, additional scholarships and programs for girls, list goes on.

#4 and most crucial part is combination of all these three in a way of "socialization". The most profound effect on boys' success as a group is a deliberate setup of supposed socializing within this educational system. In such "socialization", boys are placed with these same disastrous boys from dysfunctional families who are already predestined to be failures due to #1 and #2 already tipping the odds against them and setting them up for a near certain failure. These boys are centers of social life in many elementary, middle and even high schools - thus exporting disastrous practices explained under #1 and #2 upon boys whose families actually made sure to make them motivated and prepared for schools. Now, combine it with #3, then add a disastrous socialization that doesn't make boys compete against each other to be better students, but actively serves to shun all the boys who actually want to study and learn anything.

I've always been amused how everyone pretends that this last part about socialization is unimportant, but it's easy to compare and contrast it through educational success and performance of boys who happen to NOT be part of schooling systems and whose parents opt to home-school them. These boys perform so good that Feminist "educational system" tries to prove you that homeschooling should be outlawed and the proof they give are educational systems where they successfully outlawed it or kept it outlawed, which is really all they have - and they argue that "socialization in school for these boys is necessary for a better success", which is an outright lie. As a way to impose such lies, they even claim that "boys aren't fit for homeschooling" and so on. It's so ridiculous to even think that placing young boys in a social context with the center of social life revolving around obvious degenerates who are predestined for academic failure is actually going to generate positive competition and thus be better than homeschooling. A classroom with motivated students who compete each other will yield a better result - the problem is that these boys in current educational system would rather compete in becoming bigger failures and problematic boys will drag all other boys towards the abyss, but Feminist educational system pretends this to be a non-issue and points out that "girls are doing just fine" - ignoring the fact that even in their feminist educational system these girls not only have a school program that caters to yield girls' better success, they also have staff and various programs to help them out and most importantly - these problematic boys will have next to NO socialization with the girls because even in this "feminist" educational system the boys and the girls are pretty much separate in their social groups and feminists NEVER wanted to challenge that - because they are aware that fostering such socialization will NOT be beneficial for girls' education.

Title	Affirmative action for male education- not the answer.
Author	Aluto7
Upvotes	12
Comments	8
Date	September 10, 2023 2:38 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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