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Where to go for more "advanced" strategies?

notlurkinganymoar · 2011-08-10T20:58:18+00:00

Seddit, I love you. But there's only so much you can do. You are very good at some things, but terrible at others. Is there anywhere to go to learn...

notlurkinganymoar

August 10, 2011

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Title	Where to go for more "advanced" strategies?
Author	notlurkinganymoar
Upvotes	5
Comments	10
Date	August 10, 2011 8:58 PM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/jez8o/where_to_go_for_more_advanced_strategies/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/seduction/where-to-go-for-more-advanced-strategies.1321137 https://theredarchive.com/post/1321137

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[–]ImKumarYo 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]notlurkinganymoar[S] 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So, a lot of times I'll post a question on general technique in here, but use a specific situation as an example. The response I get will be "that girl just wasn't that into you," or "abundance mentality," etc. A lot of the times that is not the response I am looking for. I am doing this to get better with women. I don't want to become someone who gets laid because he approaches 100 girls. I want to be the guy that those 100 girls want. Therefore, responses that are specific to the girl in the situation are useless to me.

Another thing I've noticed is there is a lot of bad advice on here, but that's going to happen anywhere, so is kind of secondary. I feel like there should be a "beginners" board, where you talk about general theory, inner game, approaching, etc. Then an "intermediate" board, where these things are gone into more in depth and specific situations that occur all the time are discussed. Then an "expert" forum where idk what happens because I'm not there yet, lol.

Here's an example of advanced technique I am trying to learn. In a club. Talk to a girl. Build interest. Eject for w/e reason, go on with your night. Catch her casually looking at you. How do you reapproach? Do you start with attraction, or go into rapport? What if she's with friends? Do you just approach her or her friends first and ignore her?

Another thing I came across last night. How do you react to a woman qualifying you? For instance, "what kind of qualities do you look for in women?" C-F? Honesty? Tell her values that'll get you laid (e.g., adventurous, fun, giving, etc.)?

[–]ImKumarYo 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In a club. Talk to a girl. Build interest. Eject for w/e reason, go on with your night. Catch her casually looking at you. How do you reapproach? Do you start with attraction, or go into rapport? What if she's with friends? Do you just approach her or her friends first and ignore her?

My advice would be to post exactly that as a new submission and see what comes back. If you want the input of more advanced members make it a point to reach out to them to ask for feedback on your specific post. I used to message Tofu every now and then to get his specific thoughts on a FR.

I don't really see where you're going to be able to go for this without paying for a bootcamp. I'm not really seeing any of this as being inherently more advanced, you've just gotten to the point that a lot of the standard ABC advice for noobs no longer applies to you. And that's awesome :-)

But yeah, keep posting and just pick and choose whose advice you'll listen to. I don't post much for advice anymore but when I do I take into account where every noob is coming from that tries to help me even if I realize it doesn't necessarily fit my game.

[–]gozarthegozarian 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well these questions you have are very specific scenarios that can be approached from different ways.

In the first scenario, why did you eject? For whatever reason is not good enough. Why affects how you go back in. Did you eject because it wasn't going well? If you somehow stalled earlier and then ejected, congratulations you have just hit the reset button. Go back in like it is a new set and do better. If she is with friends make sure you play all the usual group dynamics ie winning over the group, disarming obstacles, etc.

If you ejected on purpose to get her to chase, push/pull, do a takeaway, then your game is working if she is looking at you. The question is how much interest did you build? How far into the interaction did you get? Did you get to rapport before you left? You can either pump her with some attraction when you engage to get her state up and then rapport or just go right into rapport to move things forward if you're sure she is already attracted. How to deal with friends depends on what style of game and approach you use.

Clubs are high energy environments you can't take for granted that a girl remembers you because you had a conversation. How long ago did you eject? How good was the conversation? How many guys did she talk to since you ejected? How many drinks has she had? You can't know all the answers to these things so just keep that in mind.

How to react to a woman qualifying you depends on the situation. If you are early in the interaction just go Cocky Funny, you need to build attraction. Get the energy up. Get her laughing. Same thing if one of the friends or obstacles tries to qualify you. You could also go with values that will get you laid but don't jump through hoops. You don't have to answer if you feel it is too early or if it is a shit test. But if the interaction is going well and you are in rapport and you get qualified then answer. She is just trying to get to know you and see what kind of guy you are. If you are the prize, which is how you should feel mentally, then her qualifying you is really just her qualifying herself because she will hear what you are looking for in a woman and she will then compare herself to THAT. I've had it happen where a girl hears what I say and then states what she is looking for. I hold my frame and then she starts changing her statements to match mine closer because she is into me. So her qualifying you is really just qualifying herself.

Honesty? Are you not honest when you go out gaming? Be genuine my friend and your results will be better. You will get what you want still. Do not lose your integrity or bend your morals for game. For example I had a girl straddling me in our underwear in bed ask me if I had feelings for her. Devil on my shoulder says "Just say yes and get that pussy". Angel says "Be honest". I was honest. I said "I care about you as a friend". She paused then fucked me anyway. I didn't have to lie to get laid. She had said she couldn't be friends with benefits. Afterward she asked if we are going to be fwb. I said sure. For the time being she is ok with it. Just be honest. Don't lie to get some. Let women know what you want.

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