Questions regarding the Art of Seduction by Robert Greene

TheMinistryOfAwesome · 2016-02-25T08:56:17+00:00

Okay, to answer - i might not be able to answer them all but i'll have a go:

1) I think it's hard to seduce friends because you've spent a lot of time with them and they have you placed in that "He's a friend" box/frame. To get past that you have to break out of that box and it's not always a trivial thing to do. I'm not sure what exactly the inner process of going from a girl being your friend to being attracted to you - but that can happen though I've never really actively done it.
2) Not sure about school. But indirect means you're just basically not walking up to them and saying "you're cute give me your number so w can hookup" - you're basically creating a persona around them that makes them comfortable and non-defensive that allows you to demonstrate high sexual market value - it gives her the opportunity to develop that attraction
3) Oh, interesting, I thought this would be about girls sending mixed signals to you. In terms of friends if you just want them as friends act how you want and most feel comfortable cuz it doesn't matter otherwise. If you're trying to seduce a friend then I recommend MIXED signals, friiendly and sometimes critical (not mean exactly, but just not affraid to voice your opinion: e.g. "Oh hey there, ah i preferred that dress with those other boots!") say it all with a grin so she knows you're not blasting her. As for sexual - if you're not being sexual she won't associate sexuality with you (friendzone!). The best strategy in this context is to be sexual, but not all the time or with it overtly directed to her. She needs to see you as a sexual being but feel okay to be around you without some slimy fucker trying to put his penis in her every time she's around. That said, when you ARE sexual, you have to slightly obfuscate it to keep her guessing - if she believes you're into her and want to fuck her that gives her the pedestal and power and she'll fuck around with you, however if she's trying to figure out whether those little things were indicators of your sexual interest, she'll be thinking about you more, rationalising, hamstering and generally weighing you up as a partner or sex buddy. Then you win because she already likes you.
4) Cool
5) You're a girl or a dude? And you're trying to seduce a friend who is male or female? Because it kind of matters... As for your question dropping it in adds a level of complexity the person has to understand what you say, measure it consciously and come ot the conclusion that you have a lot of social proof. It's not guaranteed success. some girl seeing you hanging around with a group of stunning girls who are all over you is HARD WIRED into mammal brain. There is no better way than showing them
6) I do this - but try to avoid places they're very sensitive about. IF she's a little overweight then try to avoid calling her a fattie - unless you've already established that you like to fuck around and are a pretend cunt
- 7) Just carry on, don't be nice to them afterwards, but before you do it you have to cultivate the idea that you like to fuck around and tease people. Just coming straight out and calling a girl fat then acting like nothing happen is like buying a first class ticket to blueballsville.
7) Can't remember it :)

pacg · 2016-02-25T08:54:13+00:00

Never read him. The approach seems kinda mean-spirited though. I won't quibble about whether or not it works. Maybe it does. But I wouldn't feel good using it. I prefer the David Deanglo school that promotes cocky-funny and inner game. That's more to my taste.

DaygameCoach · 2016-02-25T13:21:02+00:00

There is /r/highseddit but they may not know much about AOS.

People have a hard time getting out of the friendzone when they are in it already, which is why people do warm and cold approaches. Once a woman sees you as a friend...it's usually over.

No, push pull, does not involve being mean to women. NEVER criticise her body.

Sorry, but I'm out of time...

2016-02-25T22:10:06+00:00

Art of Seduction is a bit overwrought, but it will teach you more about seduction than practically anything else out there.

Don't take everything in it so seriously. The examples are meant to serve as a guide rather than a recipe. A lot of the concepts just repeat and repeat. The secret is to find a pattern in there that matches with your existing habits and kind of fit yourself into a more effective pattern.

I don't have the book in front of me, but I'll try to address your questions:

Wouldn't it be very easy to seduce someone whom you've been friends with?

No, that's one of the most difficult things to do. Art of Seduction is heavily based on Dangerous Liaisons, which is a book about a guy who immediately professes his undying love for a married woman, then tries to be friends with her and tells her how torturous it is and push-pulls her back and forth until she gives in. It's okay to say you want to be "just friends" with a girl, but to actually be friends with her is the stuff of romantic comedies, not real life.

How would I approach someone indirectly at school?

It mainly just takes practice. I'm of the opinion that you should always approach indirectly, regardless of the situation. In essence, you just start talking about something and engage the person in conversation. The attitude you want to have is that you should "flirt with the world".

Re: Send mixed signals and some stuff about insulting women to pick at their scabs

The whole thing about Lord Byron insulting women should be taken with a grain of salt. He was basically a rich emo Goth kid with legendary good looks and a storied reputation for sexuality, so unless you have that same situation, you probably shouldn't be insulting women. It wouldn't be congruent.

I do send mixed signals to women in terms of being a little unpredictable. Don't be boring. Get in tune with her emotions, not her logic. You aren't going to argue your way into her pants, because arguments dry up vaginas. Get her feeling stuff. You will notice one thing that runs through the whole book is that it's all about feelings and emotions and not about logic. That is the proper way to seduce.

If you have ever successfully seduced someone with the knowledge gained through this book, would you tell us about it?

Yes, every woman I've ever seduced was at least a little bit based on knowledge from the book. A lot of guys (including me and Robert Greene) don't believe in fast seduction. You aren't seducing a woman if it happens fast -- she already was interested in you and you just did the right things to get into her pants. Seduction is about making a woman fall in love -- like so deeply in love that she thinks of no one else besides you.

Most men aren't even really interested in seduction. Seduction is all about emotions, feelings, love, infatuation....getting laid is really just about logistics -- putting your dick in the right place at the right time.

StevieBoyB · 2016-02-25T13:26:25+00:00

Tbh I read this book ages ago, it was a really mediocre book on seduction all I got from it was make prolonged eye contact. Also Julien from RSD did a podcast with Robert Greene and the guy basically let his limiting beliefs about hot women slip i.e. he doesn't really know what he's talking about. I would recommend Mystery Method, even though the techniques are a bit outdated or Richard La Ruina's book.

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