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[–]DirkDieGurke 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you learn anything here, just learn to make your move. There are tons of guys that never make the move, and lose out.
We can keep it simple:
1) Make your move
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exacly, if she is sitting by herself one day go over and talk to her. Don't have any other plans with this women except talk to her, don't try to cold approach, don't look for signs of interest. All girls are different and usually those signs of interests could mean anything. Just talk to her. Ask her whatever you want. I'm not going to tell you want to do just another option to go about doing it.
[–]optimusderp 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Thats good advice man. In all honesty i think reading too much pick up hurts alot of people because they are so text book that a girl could be good to go but they read something and totally mess it up by playing too close to the rules.
You gotta develop a sense for when the rules can be bent or even broke.
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I don't even do that, I make my own rules. I don't allow the Internet to tell me how human interactions should go. I learned that by experience. My experiences with actual women who were everything from flings, girlfriends to friends tell me. There is nothing less attractive than a creepy guy who leers, asks the girl out too soon, or a man who is weird. And I'm not talking about "you like anime werid" I'm talking about you went out with a girl and you only talk about how pretty she is weird. Just get out and talk to anyone. Ask questions. Share stories. You will grow so much.
[–]optimusderp 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Your a better man than I. It took me a couple years to figure out that following game rules blindly will hurt my game.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm not better than you dude. We are all equals!
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Shit. Be a normal person you make its sound so difficult.
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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If you treat her like an friend, and wait for her to notice you are a great guy, and confess her love for you, you ain't never getting laid. This is the true friendzone.
If you continue to treat her as an attractive woman, without putting her on a pedestal, you can do just fine, now or next year.
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The problem that I am having is you try to treat them something other than people, because that's what they are people, not an object or a prize. Treat her like a person build up a relationship, like people build relationships. All my girlfriends I have been with in my life I have known for sometimes months beforehand
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Attractive women are people. I never implied anything else.
I'm simply stating that, if you pretended you don't notice their attractiveness, they won't ever notice yours.
There is no friendzone. And you just sound like a guy in there class that they happen to know. Talk to them, be a little more outgoing, learn about them, hang out with them. Genuinely care about them. If you want to take the relationship deeper, skillfully do so. Drop hints go out more on weekdays. Have fun reasons to hang out. Say "Hey the coldstones down the street is the best in the city! Let's get a ice cream cone before our next class. " If she says no "say your loss" and get the ice cream cone anyway. Talk to people in the store get to know the cashiers and servers. Next time when you bring the girl "Oh you know ___ this guy's a trip, or he's a good man." It's all about enjoying her and enjoying life. You must go past what the PUA Zombies have taught you, and remember to keep being the best you you can be.
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
The friendzone doesn't exsist
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It gets easier with time everything does.
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Try stuff you feel comfortable with. If you want this girls number ask it. If you want to just be friends be friends. What I'm trying to emphasize is treating women as equals instead of objects or property. When you do get her number because you will. Hang out with her. Get to know her, ask her out, generate a good attraction by being a good guy. Any dude can ask a girl out on a date. A good man takes a girl out on a great date. Just remeber this, do not wait to late to get the girl, and don't ask her out to early. Most but not all girls find some men who ask to early as off putting. A guy told me about his experiences asking a girl out at the bar. His story is somewhere on this post. These are just suggestions not commands, just food for thought. Maybe your my type who likes to form friendships first before pursuing a girl, maybe your the type to just ask her upfront. The balls in your court. Do what you will.
[–][deleted] 10 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
The friendzone doesn't sexsist
[–]sunday_silence 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
pretty much my experience as well. There was a girl on these forums a few months ago telling about her experience with guys in the friendzone and she admitted she really hadnt dated much. Then I asked her how did she wind up with her boyfriends? And she admitted that pretty much all of them had started as friends she hung around with and pretty soon it just happened. It was funny because we had been talking about people being in the friendzone and stuff; and it turns out that's how they started.
I don't care what the community says dating a girl without knowing her a little beforehand in my case turned out to be the most boring dates. But when I got to know the girl and we just been hanging out over and over again, attraction starts to build. You learn more about her, about what she wants, who you are. Shit once I was out with a friend and she kissed me. We hung out for like 7 months and one day she just kissed me saying that was something she had to do. By that point we were fuckin.
[–]sunday_silence 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
kissing seems like a direct conduit to fucking. those two are connected.
its hard to just date a stranger, and Ive done that. Also if people are more into pickup then probably by nature you're going to be dating more strangers, so I guess that's how it goes. when I went on a formal date with someone I just met, and by "formal" meaning we set a time and went dancing or whatever; it was alway a bit stiff. I was nervous and not sure what she was into, so the conversation was a little too polite or whatever.
I did have one good relationship from a girl I met in a bar. Just started talking to her, but we talked and talked that night and when we went on the date, about three days later, it was pretty relaxed. We had talked a two days after we met and we had talked for awhile so everything was very fun and relaxed.
So yeah there are girls that I did go out with that were strangers at one pt. and they werent in my circle so basically I did date them as strangers, but I when I first met them I talked to them for a long time like two hours plus...so that's my take.
Everyone one is different.i think that's what I love the most about people. Every experience is different. I very rarely go to bar by myself due to an overwhelming work sqedule. But when I do go I will keep your story in mind. Why? Because it helped me understand another method of not picking up girls, but taking to people and having fun. Thanks for that.
[–]Czekraft 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol. You had me at everyone was going to die. My current girlfriend was only looking for a friend at first. Then flirting on random topics about why we like roller coasters or horror movies to past relationships somehow led to warming her up for sex.
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