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[–]TheBacchus 9 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link
Are you authentic when talking to people/girls? You differentiated your game and natural game. But good game is practically natural game... Just that some people pick it up without effort and others "learn" it later. Often after learning the "gimmicky" game first and then noticing that game is mostly about steering your own and the other peoples flow of emotions.
It's possible to vibe with drunk people when you are sober but you have to try to amuse yourself and get on a similar high. It doesn't always work also depending on your mood but it is possible.
I have felt drunk while being sober at partys. The nighttime actually gives you a natural high as well. By the way, if you handle it right then people won't judge you for not drinking. Just make a joke out of it when people question you ("when I drink alcohol I viciously start puking little teddy bears, it's actually quite fucking disgusting" - or whatever, doesn't even have to be so abstract). No need to take it serious, you can do what you want and have fun either way and thats the image you're going to portray in that situation
Regarding your unknown flaw. Maybe try to get a hint directly from the girls that you are gaming. If they have at least some initial interest then they usually subconsciously show you what they want more of from you and guide the way. One just has to pick up the subtle hints sometimes.
Hope I could maybe spark an idea for you. Good luck mate :)
[–]learningrussian-3 9 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
Thanks mate; it is much appreciated!
To me, being authentic is letting my personality flow, expressing my interest and genuinely wanting to know more about a person which I have thanks to game
I'll keep the drunk thing in mind because I love parties and like meeting new people
I guess I am really bad at picking up signals; I look for mirroring body language that points itself at me, rising intonation(which I avoid) and when they block everyone out just to talk to me which happens on occasion
[–]TheBacchus 9 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
It sounds like you are trying to build rapport now but slightly missing building attraction. Could that be?
Are you familiar with the concept of emotion spiking? It's essential for building attraction. Maybe you are staying in a middle lane while communicating with girls. It's important to spike both positive and negative emotions. Getting to know and having interest in a person is fine but the essence of game lies more on the emotional side of things. What took me way too long to understand is the difference between men and women when it comes to thinking. Men constantly think more on the logical side ("I have this new car it's got the specs xyz and cost me xyz and drives as fast as xyz, cool right? " Any other guy would agree it's impressive. A girl on the other hand:" I have this new car, finally I can go anywhere I want, I'm totally free and when I drive it I just feel happy and the color just sticks out so much I love it! Thats so nice right?" any girl would join in the excitement and feel good with her.
You see what I mean? You seem to be pretty intelligent and a logical thinker. I'm the same so I often didn't know how to communicate with girls. But it's really not so much about what you talk with them or what you find out about them but how both of you feel together and make each other feel.
When your game is good then you can read the girl to an extend. It is necesarry in order to calibrate yourself because game isn't linear and formula based but basically just steering a car on ice. You do this, she reacts like this, you steer the other way. And that keeps on going while going through the different steps. If you don't steer around and just drive straight it's boring and you won't get anywhere with the girl.
Maybe I'm telling you stuff you already know but I thought this might have something to do with your issue :)
[–]learningrussian-32 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
How do you spike emotions while building rapport? Or are you talking about breaking rapport with negative emotions? I have heard of this but I never really believed it because I thought negative emotions would turn them off So could you please tell me more? I have made connections while being a little bit of a sass hole here and there so maybe I have an idea but I just want to know for sure
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[–]learningrussian-3 9 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
I appreciate it
The thing is; I enter with the mindset that I want to learn more about the other person so I think I am fine there.
I'll keep the drunk thing in mind
I genuinely don't know what I do wrong so I cannot keep tabs
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[–]learningrussian-31 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
That's a good thing to keep in mind
[–]WCEpi 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You didn't really tell us anything about your game. Can you approach women confidently? Do you manage to get their numbers? How many of those numbers turn into dates? Do you get a second and third date? We need to find your sticking point for you to progress. Being a sociable person is good, but it doesn't matter if you're not taking action.
Yes Yes and that's as far as I get
[–]msmiitz 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
tldr
[–]kalolilo 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Are you really doing
Without any of those 4, it gets really hard to seduce a girl.
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