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Need advice on a woman's studies class.

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April 22, 2014
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Title Need advice on a woman's studies class.
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Upvotes 11
Comments 37
Date April 22, 2014 1:13 AM UTC
(12 years ago)
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[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 12 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

It's simple; agree and amplify to absurdity.

The advice elsewhere in the thread about not fucking up your grade is sound. What you need is an idea that she cannot deny support to but if implemented would be a Pyrrhic victory.

I humbly submit that you should demand for the expansion of women's studies to not just be a course, but an overt component of as many courses as possible. Female specific issues should be given priority across courses as "the very foundation of higher education rests upon the oppression of women." Advocate a total overhaul of all non-STEM subjects (not because it wouldn't be funny, but that it's too difficult to justify) to certify that they don't harbor the vestiges of patriarchal thinking.

Take care to run it to the edge of absurdity without overdoing it. You'll know you got it right when she loves it and everyone it would affect wants you expelled. Be subtle, and be sure to let her review your rough drafts.

Whatever you do, don't confront her. She'll take revenge if she catches a whiff of resistance.

Edit: See the story of Tommaso Campanella in The 48 Laws of Power.

[–]cascadecombo 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is pretty much the best thing to do, overblow everything, the teacher will love you and anyone with a brain will realize what a crock of shit that will be.

[–]1bradyo2 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This works in all subjects. I was failing miserably at my GCSE English, until one day I just thought "fuck it, let's take the piss"

Went into way too many ridiculous details in book analysis (too much detail is hard in an English class), shot my hand up to answer every question and generally licked the teacher's bumhole. My friends knew I was joking, but the teacher fell for it hook line and sinker.

Pulled my grade from an E to an A.

[–]goofproofacorn 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Holy shit that's Machiavellian. Genius man. Pure genius

[–][deleted] 12 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]1KyfhoMyoba 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I forget the name of the blog - thought something - authors name is Anne Gus. Total RP chick, but does the A & A thing on feminism to absurdity. Fucking hilarious.

[–]1bradyo2 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think Anne Gus is a bloke pretending to be a woman.... (Angus)

[–]cabsarehere25 points26 points27 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

you can always frame a womens issue as a mans issue. The "Patriarchy" makes women out to be weaker so they are not tried as seriously for domestic crimes; therefore you can argue for stricter sentences against women.

You can frame the stupid final project any way that makes you want to actually write the letter.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I like this.

Argue for removal of the /r/pussypass. If she's an 'equality feminist' then there really isn't much she can do without looking like a hypocrite.

[–]AwwYissMane 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My initial reaction was to do whatever it took to pass the class, then flip them the bird after taking your last exam. But really, the above response is probably the better option.

I had to take a course similar to this several years ago. One semester in that class, and it turned me completely away from modern feminism.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]TehFuggernaut -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Or to save some face, follow your letter up with an explanation letter to the state rep. "The letter I wrote arguing XYZ Feminist Dogma is merely part of my college coursework. I don't support the argument made, and merely believe it is the most effective for achieving the best grade in the course." Subtle lolz will be had.

[–]long-lostfriend 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

For the love of Christ, don't ask me why I took this class.

Sorry, dude. That's all I can think about at this point.

Welcome to Western "higher education."

[–]1Zackcid 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Consider having a word with the higher ups and let it be anonymously. You can't have this teacher knowing the complaint came from you. I've had feminist teachers before and gone through bullshit for opposing them. Women typically have no grasping of the concept of honor, so most will feel like it's totally justified to give you a lesser grade because "you're the bad guy".

[–]hojoohojoo 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Write the letter, get the grade. Document every instance of political indoctrination. Go to ombudsman, dean, school president, student press. Never, ever mention your belief system (they will use it against you). Just say you dissent from hers.

If this is a public university what she is doing may be a crime. At the least it is a 1st Amendment violation.

Also, go to FIRE, an academic freedom organization.

[–]Science_isthenewcool7 points 12 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

Don't confront her until AFTER you have your grade in writing. Then tell her exactly what you think.

Talk about obesity for both women and men. And how everyone should have gyms subsidized to reduce obesity, diabetes etc. Start out with increasing obesity rates in WOMENZ over time, the resultant side effects both physically and economically, then expand to "it affects men as well...etc".

[–]Ferelden 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Most realistic answer for what op can write about and still get an A, unless the prof is a fatty.

[–]Science_isthenewcool 3 points3 points3 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Fuck, that's pretty likely come to think of it. But then she'd probably describe herself as curvy, not a landwhale.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

MAN THE HARPOONS!

[–]Dubba 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"boxum" lel

[–]rico_montoya 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Law 38: Think as you like, but behave like others

[–]cabsarehere0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

hey is there a list of laws that youre talking about? I still havent gotten around to the 48 laws of power is this perchance from there?

[–]O3EAN 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep

[–]rico_montoya 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

http://48laws-of-power.blogspot.com/

But I'd recommend reading the actual book.

[–]esco_ 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'd say its highly likely the letter isn't going to be sent to a state representative... the assignment is just to be written as though that is the case.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Naw I'm willing to bet it does get sent. You know then they can artificially inflate the number of people whining about feminist issues.

[–]esco_ 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

nobody from a government department is going to give a shit about reading things like this, and the teacher knows it.

I hand out assignments like this on the course im a teaching assistant for... "You will be writing a letter to the ministry of health regarding X issue..."

Nobody cares about the regurgitated opinions of undergraduate students

[–]cascadecombo 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You signed up for it, play the part.
If you choose to join the corporate world this will be a good experience for you.

[–]LetusLentum 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You will accomplish nothing, and only hurt yourself if you attempt to grossly and obviously disagree and undermine her 'authority' position.

Get your A. Maybe you can try to sell egalitarian arguments instead of feminist focused ones.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Keep selling your soul, get that grade on your transcript, one dumb feminist letter won't make things any worse than they already are.

[–]noblepaladin 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Write the letter for the grade, but don't send it. I know a lot of people here want you to act out their revenge fantasy of reporting the professor and getting her fired, but let's face it, it is not happening. Even if it does, you don't get anything out of it, and you will be known as a snitch and as an anti-feminist. You ever touch the line and you are done (i.e. a girl accuses you of sexual assault), as they will be looking to get rid of you.

Sometimes, you have to go full sociopath and do what is best for yourself, which is getting the A and moving on. When you get into the real world, you will deal with this type of bullshit all the time, and if you want to move up the ladder, you will have to know how to deal with it. For example, when you start working, you may have to pay corporate lip service to a lot of things for legal liability reasons. Everybody on the top level knows it and they play their role and get their big paychecks. If you think you point it out and call bullshit, thinking you are smarter than management, then you actually reveal that you don't "get it" and you'll never be allowed to move up (for very good reason).

Life is full of these shit-tests and they are not necessarily going to come from women. This is probably just one of the first big ones you've had to deal with, but when you are an adult you will have to deal with it all the time. Social Justice Warrior spend an exceedingly large amount of time and efforts fighting their perceived injustices (and there might actually be some real injustices), but they end up being low functioning members of society who are not very significant and do not accomplish anything in life. Don't be like that.

[–]goofproofacorn 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wait til final grades are in and she can't change them. Don't under estimate what crazy people are capable of. Write it in her professor review or something. Or file a complaint with the school after the semester is over.

[–]sfudman 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

my body my choice: legalize marijuana. women can extract alimony and child support from male employees of dispensaries rather than unable to collect black market under the table cash income. Husbands and fathers will no longer be taken from mothers & children and placed in jail. And of course, marijuana is good for PMS.

[–]trpdr 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was actually a women's studies minor. Easiest goddamn minor of all time. A lot of it was women angrily accusing me of hilarious things.

Example:

Student: "You don't know what it's like to be expected to cook your father breakfast every Saturday!"

me: "You're right. My dad woke my ass up at 6AM to mow the lawn. Can we switch?"

Example:

Professor made us read some article entitled "the 20 powers of men" or something like that. We then had to write a reaction paper. Mine was entitled, "Now that I know my penis is a magical wand, I have plans for the weekend!"

Any time a feminist brings this type of shit up, the primary argument should first be a definition of what feminism is. Most of the standard definitions include something like that it is an ideology of equality. Once you can get them to agree to these standard definitions, then any argument you make for equality is, by definition, a feminist argument.

[–]2muchedu1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

As someone who writes these assignments (for totally different subjects), (and is admittedly dealing with students who keep trying to "buck" the assignment) - do the assignment. She is unlikely to submit your writeup to anyone. She wants to see if you can write well. This isnt you submitting to a "female overlord". This is you finishing an assignment! (Time to downvote me to hell)

[–]username1153 -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Have you thought about bringing this up to the dean of the department? I would try that first.

[–]hojoohojoo 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dean of a woman's studies department? She would be worse.

Student ombudsman and anyone not in the woman's studies department.

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