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[–]Kenic_In_MD 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
You see one situation and blanket label the whole game. Thats not how it works man
[–]Motecuzma 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
What? I didn't mention a thing about this encompassing the whole game. This guy didn't have much game from where I was looking. This is about what women want instinctively. Good genes. Its their biological imperative.
Best believe Hypergamy takes a significant seat in the game.
[–]Kenic_In_MD 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
Yes and no, a women can be initially attracted to you physically then hate your guts when you open your mouth lol. On one hand, you aren't wrong but what you're saying is false. It's not all "good genes" sure going to the gym and getting relatively fit can help your chances but being an attractive fit pretty boy doesn't mean you are guaranteed success. I know because I have seen plenty of them fail.
[–]plowzedong 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Obviously having game will help.
But to presume looks and genetic health aren't major factors in male attractiveness is borderline retarded from an intuitive standpoint and contradicts [scientific research](www.archive.is/ARKof) .
[–]Motecuzma 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
This guy wasnt relatively fit. He was yoked for his age. I'm relatively fit on my lean days. It hasn't produce a chick to run up to me.
It seems you're assuming a dude will fuck it up just cause. If she hates your guts you are still in. Its her indifference that would mean shes not down. Well its never a guaranteed, but a guy like that 90% will get laid when context is right. For instances, girl is single, girl has high (sexual) value, girl shows her receptivity. I mean if she didn't want to get dick down she would have waited for him make the first move.
[–]Kenic_In_MD 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
And this is where you're wrong. You are putting to much emphasis on his looks, it doesn't matter. Sure it helps but he was just walking along with confidence not really giving a fuck. Give it a shot sometime. You are thinking about this too hard. and to be for real it sounds like a hint of jealously. I get like that too every now and then. If you wanna get diesel go get diesel nothing is stopping you. Especially if you believe in what you are saying about "genes" or whatever.
[–]Motecuzma 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I am a human being. I've put it down. It wasn't solid game. Still it was game. He did have to follow up. I know it could go wrong its happen to me before. A girl is horny when she meets me. I fuck it up because of insecurities. I walk around all the time like I don't give a fuck. I'm not push over or some soft nerd. Genes are not concrete. They switch and change all the time according to your environment. I mean unless he fucks it up royaly he should get the pussy. She will give him plenty of chances to do so.
Perhaps I assumed to much. Given the length of time they were talking maybe ten mins. She would had already decided if she still wanted him.
[–]Kenic_In_MD 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Who knows, people watching is a good skill to have though. Also, if you know you are screwing up because of your insecurities then work on that. I have some too but work on them as well.
[–]Motecuzma 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My insecurities lie far further than what I look like on any given day. Or what bullshit excuse most of these dudes use like an elliot rodgers or that Stanford rapist.
[–]plowzedong 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Dude. The guy is reporting what he saw. Get off of your high horse.
Looks matter. It's not a surprising or complex idea.
Don't be a game dogmatist.
[–]Kenic_In_MD 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Lol there is no high horse, he is reporting what he saw, and I am stating that it's a false assumption. You can come in and give your thoughts too. You're all free to think what you wish but it's not a good idea to assume "big muscles+pretty boy =girls" Because thats how lurkers read this as and they get discouraged when it's not the truth at all!
[–]Motecuzma 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I posted this so those dudes read up and better themselves. Because this is the guy they are competting with. He had barely any game. Pretty sure he doesn't know about pick up "tactics". Then how would you explain this situation? He got the number. Probably will get the pussy. I think its important to know womens true instinct to better your game. Go ahead and game with half truths. By all means.
[–]Kenic_In_MD 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Alright man, to each their own I guess, good luck to ya.
[–]plowzedong 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Ok. Coming from someone who posts on seddit 20+ times a day, then it must be true...
[–]Kenic_In_MD 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I really like this sub and it's helped me loads, you should check out my FRs man!
[–]plowzedong 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That's awesome that you write FRs. Definitely more valuable than most of the posts here.
But I still think you are way off base with the looks things.
Obviously, with something like height, it's pointless to focus too much on it since it can't be changed.
But anyone can exercise, have good hygiene, and dress decently. Even if game can overcome many of these issues, it's an uphill battle. Personally, if a guy doesn't care about himself enough to handle these issues, I wouldn't consider them my equal.
These things (along with posture, vocal tonality and pace, and eye contact) are probably the easiest to fix or have the greatest long term benefits outside of women.
In my experience, the guys who studied 'game' the longest yet were otherwise total chodes have always been tall, fit, white dudes. Although they could get numbers and even pull, they were actually clueless about women. Simply put, they had enough success that they never were forced to improve.
[–]Kenic_In_MD1 point 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Glad you at least liked my FRs lol
[–]JimBeamAndCoke2016 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're all free to think what you wish but it's not a good idea to assume "big muscles+pretty boy =girls" Because thats how lurkers read this as and they get discouraged when it's not the truth at all!
Not the whole package, but makes up a large part in what attracts women.
[–]TheXXL 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Actually he's not just reporting what he saw, he makes assumptions about that as if it was the only truth. In a scientific community this would be at best laughed at, since it's just one occurrence.
Since we're here already, let me give you a story about what I saw once: a female friend was into a guy who she thought was good looking. She tried to get laid. He was a friend of a friend, and we were having a before the party setting where we all met. She talked to him, I talked to him, and my personal feeling was, he's a attention whore and only opening his mouth to spill bullshit.
Well, after a few days I asked her how it went with said guy, you know what she said to me? "at first I found him attractive, he looks good, but when he started talking it was gone."
What could we conclude from that? Obviously only one thing: she didn't want him any more because he was an idiot. Does this apply to every woman? Definitely not, but that's the thing, not one woman is the same, and what works for one, doesn't necessarily work for another woman.
So, back to what he saw there: he saw a guy that initially attracted a bunch of Young girls, and we could go even deeper into the psychology of it, the perception part. She perceived him to be high value. That doesn't mean she is interested in him for more.
[–]plowzedong 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"at first I found him attractive, he looks good, but when he started talking it was gone."
So, basically he could have fucked her based on looks alone but managed to fuck it up.....
Kinda backs up what I just said. If he was significantly overweight, had unkept hair, hadn't changed his style since middle school, he wouldn't have even gotten a second look...
[–]TheXXL 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
By opening his mouth. How many girls fuck a dude that is not saying a word? We could conclude: personality trumps looks.
Kinda backs up what I just said.
To some extent, sure.
If he was significantly overweight, had unkept hair, hadn't changed his style since middle school, he wouldn't have even gotten a second look...
True, but that same guy, with visibly better hygiene and the ability to talk doesn't need that "second look", that's where game comes into play, i am sure you know that.
Oh I didnt know scientists were getting laid left and right.
Our dear mods have taken it upon themselves to ban discussion about Rollo Tomassi.
Appearently 10 posts a day by incels is more valuable.
[–]Motecuzma 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That seems like a disservice for the "seduction" sub. They are going to strike this post down then, you are saying?
[–]sakuotiob -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
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