I fucking hate women

I was standing in a square. There was police fencing all over the square so I was standing there looking, trying to figure out why. A woman was standing close. I asked her if she knew what was happening. She made a shocked and disgusted sound and facial expression and walked fast over to a spot like 20-30 meters away, then proceeded to look out over the square, in a direction where I could see her face. I hate her so fucking much.

A saw a woman walking. I walked up to her and said hi. She also made a disgusted expression and just tried to get away from me, all she said was "sorry". Then walked over to an ice cream stand a few meters away.

I was near a woman in a grocery store. Opened by asking her about an item. Then rambled. Walked with her and rambled, at first only about food, then somewhat personal things. She smiled the whole time. Then after I payed for my things I reapproached her where she was standing, I think either she was standing by the checkout putting her stuff in bags or she was near the checkout. I asked if she wanted to go for a coffee sometime. Then she pursed her lips. Then quickly back to smiling again. I was looking at her for a few seconds waiting for maybe a different reply, she just stood there smiling, after having pursed her lips at me like she might as well have said fuck you.

I talked to a tourist. Walked with her. She reluctantly followed me into a bar, drank half her glass of wine, kind of bitchy the whole time. Followed her to her hostel. She smiled when she said bye, clearly fake, flaked the next day. Then that next day at the museum where she had just flaked at me, I approached another woman. She was smiling and happy to talk to me. We talk for a while. Then I said I wanted something to drink and said she could join me to the cafeteria if she wanted. She pursed her lips and looked bothered and disgusted and said in an annoyed tone "I'll be over there at some point" or something. Then when I saw her later she looked bothered and looked like she was avoiding me.

I fucking hate women.

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Alright, but I don't think you could claim you haven't felt this way before. I still struggle with it greatly every day.

I realized eventually though, it's not so much individuals or groups that I hate, but "mainstream conformity", the way it shapes behavior. There is no acceptable slot into which I fit.

I don't see why a socially conforming man is automatically equated to a "strong man" and the inverse (idiosyncratic guy driven only by his whims, not society) is the opposite. It is nonsense and even more ridiculous the more entrenched social media becomes. Of course, look to online dating for all the proof you need. A man either offers "amazing looks" or "profound social conformity" or he could be on 50 platforms for 50 years and never get a single date. It was never like that, before.

Where is the reality I seek, in which those men who cannot fit the Capitalist ideals are seen as desirable and attractive? Please tell me where to find that.

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Alright, but I don't think you could claim you haven't felt this way before.

You're right, I felt like that before, but I never went around and insulted anyone who tried to help me, left alone calling women whores for not replying to me online.

I still struggle with it greatly every day.

I realized eventually though, it's not so much individuals or groups that I hate, but "mainstream conformity", the way it shapes behavior. There is no acceptable slot into which I fit.

I understand your sentiment, you feel left out and this makes you bitter.The thing is though, being bitter will not help you. It will make you even more unhappy and bitter, that is why I usually tell people to fight this bitterness by exposing themselves to more positive thoughts and experiences.

I don't see why a socially conforming man is automatically equated to a "strong man" and the inverse (idiosyncratic guy driven only by his whims, not society) is the opposite.

I don't get your point, as in "who says that a man is only strong if he conforms"? The notion of being strong is objectively observable. Of course the idea of what is strong varies from culture to culture, but in general, evolution has shaped men and women to survive, and being strong as a man, is description of his capability to survive and keep his woman and their offspring safe to ensure their genetic heritage to survive.

It is nonsense and even more ridiculous the more entrenched social media becomes.

Social media itself is an abomination. It has a lot of negative effects on people. Division (see the current mainstream trend of bashing (white) men in favor of the tyrannical feminazis in the name of ~~equality~~ female superiority), the rise of stupidity, (see flat earthers and other dumb conspiracy therorists or this gender nonsense where people actually say men (having beards, penises stronger bones and muscle) and women (being the only part of humanity capable of bearing children, having breasts to feed babies, having vaginas to receive the seed for life and in the end being the canal for getting the baby out into the real world) are just a social construct), a rise in extreme narcissism (instagram girls acting like models, guys mindlessly pedestalizing those mediocre women) and the overall rise of small minority mobs who are actually capable (and they are acting on it constantly) of ruining peoples lives over a disagreement .

All this goes hand in hand with a general inability to actually talk to each other, which eradicates the whole social element of our existence.

Of course, look to online dating for all the proof you need.

Online dating is another fail in human technological development. It divides us even further by making us into a product. Just like the advertisement industry. It also proves to us that women are actually not that visual when it comes to choosing a sexual partner. According to a statistic derived from internal data by OkCupid, the majority of women rate men online as very unattractive, and only a tiny portion of men are deemed fuckable. One could ask why that is, and the most obvious reasons is that women are sexually aroused by fantasy and how men make them feel. This also explains why there is rarely any porn made for women, even though there is, they call it for instance "50 shades of grey"

A man either offers "amazing looks" or "profound social conformity" or he could be on 50 platforms for 50 years and never get a single date. It was never like that, before.

I see your point, but let me ask you this: Why do you want to compete in a foul market where women rate 90% of all men as ugly per default? While in real life a big portion of women are married, or in long lasting relationships with exactly those types of men who they deem abominations online? This is like having a car that you can drive anywhere, but you decide to just push it to your destination instead of just being reasonable and driving it.

I will tell you what. Stop reading so much bullshit online. The media is lying constantly, and it loves to make you scared of this or that. Your initial comment in another thread about Peterson being "alt right" showed exactly that. I don't judge you for parroting the media lies, since it seems true what they say, but if you actually put in the effort to verify/falsify their narrative you will stumble over the truth, whatever it might be.

Anyway. You have to find your place in society yourself, and at the moment your place (you chose it yourself) is to be a bitter guy on the Internet constantly rambling about his inabilities blaming everyone but himself for his demise, regardless of people trying to help him because it is easier than taking responsibility for himself and rising above what he is now.

Until you don't defeat this mindset you will stay unhappy and become even more unhappy by the minute, and the only way to defeat that is to listen to people who actually want the best for you, experience the real world on your own with all the ups and downs, and gradually ramp up the intensity of experiences that you are afraid of right now, so you get used to them.

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I do still wonder if this other guy is not wrong. If he's not a troll, I wonder if his thinking is a more extreme version of what I have going on... the whole "The Emperor Has No Clothes" thing.

Folks suggesting things could turn around for me if I put in effort. Folks suggesting I could find "decent" gril, so long as I approached and grew a pair. Folks telling me to branch out socially, go to meet-ups and hobby clubs, even dance classes (for real? me? at a fucking dance class?) and "decent women" will be there, hoping to find a guy just like me, or whatever.

But probably the Emperor Has No Clothes. So it could be that the limitations that led to this very low position are just not going to bend enough. And it likely is a case where (hypocrisy be damned, for a moment) there are no "decent women" who would want the least thing to do with me. It likely is a case where if I looked for groups, everyone in the group is a highly functional adult, while I'd only be the strange guy who doesn't fit--everywhere, inevitably.

I don't know what kind of audience there might be for a guy like me. Even assuming it's only real-life meeting and approaching. If everyone only takes the best they can get and this tendency is exaggerated among women, well, the less said about what happens, the better.

One could ask why that is, and the most obvious reasons is that women are sexually aroused by fantasy and how men make them feel.

Try again. It's because standards have gone through the roof, because many women on dating sites could meet almost any guy, if they really wanted to. It seems like the vast majority think the same way, a lot of this is also learned over time because of the great difference in attention you can get by simply not being a man, online.

It's only the small portion "deemed acceptable for sex" who are meeting anyone, obviously, and the differential in experience between this 5-10% and the rest... it's absolutely ridiculous, what's happened. I don't think this has much to do with how these guys "make women feel" or what their text conversation says.

just being reasonable and driving it.

So I could head to the store tomorrow, find a cool woman showing positive signal, interact, get the number, and so on? That's not a reasonable expectation now, or much later, even with continued effort. It could be a recipe for becoming a "town creep" actually. Where to next? Bars, clubs? Come on, now.

The only option left is online. I've seen other guys mention the same problem. Women responding poorly to their approaches in real life--so they stop approaching, what else? Then they're back to online. No dates. Back to approaching, clubs, meet-ups--no interest. Rinse and repeat...

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Title	I fucking hate women
Author	hjgfhgfhhhggf
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Date	April 5, 2019 12:30 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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