Went to the gym and listened to NMMNG on audible, author recommends joining a support group or seeing a counselor.

karmasutur3 · 2015-05-23T14:40:37+00:00

Well, contrary to popular belief, men NEED support systems.

I finally found mine in college, I started college when I was 26, and I joined a fraternity. Those guys are my support group, brothers for life.

If you aren't in college, and thus missed out, and can't find your support? Go find your local masons. Men only, adult fraternity.

It will take time and effort, but you'll get what you want.

Or post here. We're here for you man.

SkorchZang · 2015-05-23T06:45:04+00:00

Instead of going to chatty groups of misery, try a simple plan like this:

If you sit for 20 min and write down all the problems you already know you have, eventually circling the biggest 3 that you think hold you back the most, that's your plan for the next 2 weeks. Working on those 3, and anything else that happens is a bonus.

After the time's up, sit down again and evaluate how it's going, what progress has been attained thus far. Again pick 3 things, for the next 2 weeks.

You may come to like it a lot & see dramatic changes quickly.

jkonrad · 2015-05-23T08:15:15+00:00

TRP is a support group, just with less hugging.

dandar4600 · 2015-05-23T13:46:32+00:00

TRP is your support group.

favours_of_the_moon · 2015-05-23T15:48:55+00:00

Freemasonry. Maybe a martial arts class.

If you get a shrink, get the right kind. Avoid the 12-stepper (unless that's what you need) the ball busting feminazi crusader, the jesus freaks who want to use behaviorism to cure gayness and go for a real, legit psychoanalyst.

makethemflaunt · 2015-05-23T09:11:07+00:00

I just did some reading on The Mankind Project's "Warrior Training" weekend.

My plate has been recommending this to me for a while because it helped her ex-husband get in touch with his masculine side (though not enough to prevent her from tricking him into an open relationship and falling out of love with him...).

There are lots of words written about this thing online. Most of them (not coming from the official website ) are very derogatory (and very long).

My synopsis:

It's a bunch of guys dressed up in military fatigues playing scripted roles trying to break men down through and boot-camp style tactics - intimidation, isolation, humiliation, cold-exposure, sleep deprivation, food limitation, etc...

They mix this up with some psycho-analytic stuff, trying to get guys to talk about the things that have messed them up and explain why this has led to their issues (common issue is a dislike for other men or feelings of wanting to subjugate themselves to women). Then, when guys get really broken down, crying about how they were molested or molested as children or whatever, they get the other participants to put a hand on the guy's shoulder to provide support for him. The effect is to build a sort of clan-like atmosphere where everyone in the clan is in the in-group by the end of it, where everyone accepts each other and feels more manly and empowered and accepted.

However, there is also apparently nakedness where participants are ordered to blindfold themselves, strip naked, hold hands and walk through the snow or some shit. And then they take the blindfolds off and a bunch of 'elders' are dancing naked to drumming. It's Native American esque, apparently. Apparently designed by a Native American, a military dill sergeant and a psychologist...

My issue with this is not that it's scripted. Real boot camps, run by the military, are also scripted. The fact of the matter is that when someone isolates you, strip searches you, deprives you of sleep, exposes you to cold and makes you concerned for your physical well-being, it doesn't matter if it's scripted or not.

My issue is that I don't trust the quality of the men involved in any particular MKP group. I'm not sure how these guys are vetted and if they are truly legit "men". They may just be homo-erotic for the compassion and acceptance at the end and the naked drumming. If they're not real men, then they're phony actors.

That, and, I have the mentality of a lot of the people who quit the program and wrote up the negative reports. That is, I do not fall into line with group dynamics. I think I'd identify myself as a Sigma male. I'm my own man. I don't belong to a clan and I don't feel the need to belong to one, so there's no way in hell I could develop allegiance and great feelings for this group in the course of a weekend.

Anyone else have anything to say on MKP?

Title	Went to the gym and listened to NMMNG on audible, author recommends joining a support group or seeing a counselor.
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Date	May 23, 2015 6:38 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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