Not F closing

TheRealJamesHoffa · 2024-04-20T18:30:19+00:00

Maybe you’re just not the type of guy to be into hookups. Not every guy is like that, some actually need to feel a connection like most women claim they do.

maxzer_0 · 2024-04-20T16:22:21+00:00

I struggle to have sex if the connection is not strong. Like, if the girl is hot but mentally we don't vibe well, I don't want to have sex with her because I would not enjoy it. Maybe this is your issue?

SnooHesitations4922 · 2024-04-20T14:24:52+00:00

Just rewire your thinking to line up with basic primal instinct.

Women have sex with guys they feel safe with.

Us guys can't fully comprehend the lens through which women view safety.

It is the woman's job to chase and care about a competent hunter/gatherer. It's the man's job to hunt and gather. In modern times this means it's your job to use your skills to get your money.

Emotional attachment makes women feel UNSAFE because it signals lack of options. A competent gatherer who puts his grind first would have many options.

The more options you have; the more detached you are; the more the girl is sexually aroused because she feels you are a safe bet.

You may very well have multiple options, but emotional attachment will still make the girl perceive the opposite.

This is why it is far easier to F close with somebody you don't wish to see again versus someone you really like.

The hard part is you just can't be completely detached from someone you actually feel something for. This is why sex has nothing to do with love in a woman's mind. A woman CAN love a guy that is emotionally invested in her, but that same woman will sleep with guys fast that don't even know her just because she thinks their chads and they stay detached ...all while making prince charming wait or denying him outright.

TheFowo · 2024-04-20T20:51:57+00:00

I'll add that this is more common than you think. In the past I've also had this issue where as soon as a girl starts to show bigger interest, I'd loose interest. The chase mentality I called it. Never been in a relationship before that and as soon as a girl would be visibly into me, I'd decide I don't like it anymore.

So, what cured it for me?

Simple - logical decision to just keep it going (despite not feeling it at the moment) and getting used to it. It's a reaction based on not knowing intuitively how much attention is too much attention, after all some of us are used to constant chase. Once we get more comfortable with chasing and getting some success though, it starts to feel weird when for once the girl is chasing us, not the opposite way.

Chase mentality + feeling confident about self worth + no experience being the prize for the woman = this.

At this point I will still feel weirded out when the girl is clearly too interested, but when it's normal, healthy interest I feel good with it so I'd say it worked for me

bas4784 · 2024-04-20T23:45:42+00:00

Maybe it's your conscience stopping you? Anxiety about STDs and pregnancy are good reasons to abstain as well.

Affectionate-Ant4888 · 2024-04-21T02:30:16+00:00

you've fumbled going for it lol, I did it twice last year, it think indeed is anxiety, second time I got close last year but still nothing, and they lose all attraction for you after such event, this seems like a sticking point for me as well, perhaps I just need to review this stuff on the books, to be honest I haven't even studied this stuff on the books, I cherry picked some ideas from david de angelo seminar called power sexuality but nothing else, but yeap I know how it feels lol.

Lord_Asmodeus93 · 2024-04-21T10:07:41+00:00

The answear to your problem lies within yourself. Ask yourself the following questions:

Do you really need a deeper connection to enjoy sex?

Is there some underlying fear like "They won't enjoy sex so much and I will loose the validation" or "Do I really deserve them"?

Are you afraid of commitment and you view sex as a point of no return?

Are you afraid that getting into a relationship will mean an end to you enjoying playing the game?

The above are some fears many new players get when they start getting good at the game. I hope the realizations you gain from answering the above questions help you out.

Wing_Inevitable · 2024-04-20T15:48:30+00:00

just wanting attention and validation from girls.

And that is a problem? Everyone ever has wanted validation from hot people .

That is why you started to “ game “ to begin with . That is why we all did .

I'm not emotionally attached to?

This one I can help with . Alcohol and imagine she is your ex .

Did it happened with you too?

I have always been like this . Only when I want sex i actually fuck .

Mine is caused by having too many options, a semi god complex and I like personality more than looks . But because I don’t want to “shame” (blame the kids in high school ) myself - I end up dating conventionally hot women (and they don’t turn me on really- I mean they are nice to look at but dull or arrogant )

A fix I found is having friend girls that have a personality that gets me hot and imagining the girl when I have sex .

Or prescribing qualities to women they may or may not have - If it is from night game or something . (Aka why I don’t qualify )

Other possible causes include : - Low libido

thinking that they like you for game you not you you (Ego protection ) This might be caused by the fact that they like GAME dude ,
Abandonment issues
Not being a sex obsessed weirdo (This is confusing lust and attraction )
Not gaming with that idea
Fear of being found out .
Struggle problems or hero or fighter (I don’t remember) - You want a challenge - and your goal is to overcome it not actually get laid .
fear of disappointing the girl (if you play a more sexual style of game - like “10 to 15 orgasms” and feel like you can’t deliver )
Moral (as in you have them) problems .

By what you have said : I would guess it is the “ego protection” one

I never had sex with anyone from game

But you do with people who you don’t game .

This is evident from the fact that I'm using the strategies to raise their interest.

Aka when you should show who you actually are (I don’t but you do you I guess) you stop .

And once they gets attached I start to make distance from them.

I got what I wanted. Made out with her. And left her room without having sex. Never initiated contact with her after that.

This is an ego thing again .

Recently, two girls from bumble came to my place without any dates.

-this is the hero thing . No struggle no fun.

The fact is that I want to bang.

Answer this question :

Why do you want to bang them ?

And you will most probably have where the hick up is after that you will know what to fix .

Title	Not F closing
Author	TheHimalayanNinja
Upvotes	8
Comments	13
Date	April 20, 2024 1:51 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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