NOTE: The red pillers who aren't doomers will usually tell you about the importance of charisma, game and social skills, but the red pillers who have the doomer mindset will spread the lie along with black pillers that personality / social skills / game don't matter.

To anyone who's spent time in successful real relationships and interacting with women in real life, it's patently obvious and common sense that personality matters a great deal in getting and maintaining romantic relationship. Relationships are just long, continuous social interactions so of course how people interact, their social skills and personality, are critical skills to making a relationship work.

Yet recently, doomer red pillers and black pillers have been over and over trying to gaslight everyone into believing that personality doesn't matter in relationships.

To "prove" their point, they will use examples of extreme outliers like celebrities, criminals, etc as "proof". They also employ cult-like circular logic, for example: "if any man is successful with women, then it must be for some trait besides personality, and if he's successful for that other reason, that's proof personality doesn't matter."

Such as a typical Chad architype who is both attractive and has high charisma. The doomer red pillers and black pillers will lie and say the only reason he's getting women is because he's hot, and deny the fact that his charisma matters.

In the end, doomer red pillers and black pillers cling to this lie that personality / social skills / game don't matter because they need the lie to uphold their victimhood narrative. If the reason they are such failures in relationships is not due to "oppression" but rather their own personal failures, they will lose their entire justification for their rage and hate towards everyone around them, especially women.