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Why are men often overlooked as victims of domestic abuse?

warmy1818

September 15, 2024
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https://www.centreforsocialjustice.org.uk/newsroom/why-are-men-often-overlooked-as-victims-of-domestic-abuse

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Title Why are men often overlooked as victims of domestic abuse?
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warmy1818

Upvotes 165
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Date September 15, 2024 2:25 PM UTC
(1 year ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
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[–]63daddy 32 points33 points34 points 1 year ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Feminists put a great deal of effort into propaganda (Duluth model for example) incorrectly depicting domestic violence as a crime committed mostly by men against predominantly women, despite numerous studies to the contrary.

Feminists put a lot of effort into such patriarchy theory propaganda as a means to win one-sided policies favoring women and disadvantaging men. This isn’t unique to domestic violence. Feminists have used similar patriarchy theory arguments to win affirmative action for women, WEEA, biased title IX rulings, healthcare advantages, women owned business advantages and more.

[–]Lovebomber777 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Can you please link some of those studies. It would be helpful.

[–]63daddy 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Lesbian couples more likely to experience DV than gay male couples:

“lesbian women were more likely than gay men to report having been in an abusive same-sex relationship (41% and 28% respectively); “

https://aifs.gov.au/resources/practice-guides/intimate-partner-violence-lesbian-gay-bisexual-trans-intersex-and-queer

“Extensive Research: Women Initiate Domestic Violence More than Men, Men Under-report It.”

https://aliesq.medium.com/extensive-research-women-initiate-domestic-violence-more-than-men-men-under-report-it-3bbaa4fbec9d

It’s all consistent: Women initiate more DV in heterosexual relationships. Lesbians have more DV than gay men. Bottom line: Women initiate more DV.

When DV escalates, men being stronger often come out on top, but that’s very different from who initiates the violence. Women initiate the violence more often than men do. I think this makes perfect sense. Women know men are told not to hit back and typically men won’t, but again, when pushed enough and men do fight back, women are more likely to fair worse

[–]Fearless_Ad4244 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://familieslink.co.uk/download/sept07/Reciprocal%20violence%20AJPH.pdf

https://archive.ph/SuGxj

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1359178911000620

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233717660_Thirty_Years_of_Denying_the_Evidence_on_Gender_Symmetry_in_Partner_Violence_Implications_for_Prevention_and_Treatment

[–]PM_40 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Feminists put a lot of effort into such patriarchy theory propaganda as a means to win one-sided policies favoring women and disadvantaging men.

Why are men allowing this ? Aren't men in power at higher echelons. I have a theory that women act as collective matriarchy and the patriarchy theory is a projection. Since there are no men's right groups and women are a united votebank these laws get passed because there are no counter forcing men's groups.

[–]Ash5150 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Gynocentrism...the instinctive need in men to protect women, while ignoring men's own issues. See also, "White Knighting"...

Men have always been seen by society as completely disposable, unlike women.

[–]DaJosuave 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Link plz, I'll spread those like wilfire.

[–]63daddy 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (5 children) | Copy Link

See above.

[–]DaJosuave 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Hmmm,

That's not really a source of studies.

I was hoping you had a list and that the article had a list of what they talk about but they don't.

[–]Fearless_Ad4244 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link

https://familieslink.co.uk/download/sept07/Reciprocal%20violence%20AJPH.pdf

https://archive.ph/SuGxj

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1359178911000620

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233717660_Thirty_Years_of_Denying_the_Evidence_on_Gender_Symmetry_in_Partner_Violence_Implications_for_Prevention_and_Treatment

[–]DaJosuave 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks :D

[–]Fearless_Ad4244 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You are welcome!

[–]63daddy 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, several studies are linked.

[–]rawspeghetti 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I was just in an abusive relationship (mostly emotional but it became physical at the end, maybe even sexual too). When I finally said I had enough and walked away I felt humiliated for allowing this to happen to me and incredibly hurt that someone who says they loved me could treat me like I wasn't even a person.

I tried to find resources to help me understand what I've gone through. But every resource I found was geared towards women with every article being explicitly written for women survivors. I'm being honest with you that added to my feelings of emasculated; not only did I allow this to happen but even admitting that I was tricked and used doesn't seem to be an acceptable response.

This just seems to me like another example of society (I'm in the US) seemingly denying that men have feelings or that our pain and experiences don't matter.

[–]Lovebomber777 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sorry for you... But that's how it it in this world.

[–]FlyingSaucer51 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Your experiences sound a lot like mine. When I finally said something about the way I was being treated, she left me without a word. It was the first time in 15 years I told her she was hurting me. Then she made false allegations and destroyed my mind. I can’t begin to tell you how painful it was. I almost checked out about 3 times. This needs to stop. Zero evidence and I was still presumed guilty.

[–]ag55ful 24 points25 points26 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Societal teachings that men are usually perpetrators, and that men are always at fault of their own circumstances.

Men are more violent, however, this doesn't mean male victims shouldn't get just as much recognition or support as female victims.

Men have always been seen as having more agency of their own environment, and therefore, more responsible for actions they sometimes don't even commit.

Men, don't stop advocating for our visibility and support. Make it well known we still want to be treated humanely and equally with women.

[–]Limp_Razzmatazz_792 15 points16 points17 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Man abuse woman =>Woman: All men are bad. Men must take control other man. Protect woman. Beat up men who harm woman.

Woman abuse men =>Woman: She must have a reason. Must be his fault. Why I have to take control other woman, I am not an abuser. What? Punish the abuser, but she a woman ?

[–]Limp_Razzmatazz_792 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because people are dumb. Think, the abuser gonna go free, get protected and excuse by society. Like they can commit crime and go free. That how they treat woman who abuse men. They can scream, lie and people believe. A man say a woman is an abuser, hah, they all laugh.

[–]ljfrench 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Back when the Cassie Jay movie was coming out, she was offering self-hosted screenings for something like $250 or $500. Rent a Theater and play the film for an audience. I have a friend in sound and stage so I asked him to help me put it together.

Boy did I get an earful. Women are assaulted more than men so we can't focus on men's problems until women's problems are fully solved. He literally said women are raped in Africa so we can't screen a film about the feminist who documented men's rights. Real zero sum game shit.

The older I get, the more I have the impression that this kind of thinking is widespread. That we can't just focus on ending violence, it has to be gendered and favor women.

[–]ProblemAltruistic2 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Apparently because men are violent other men aren't allowed to complain when they themselves are a victim of violence.

[–]DaJosuave 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I told my ex wives family about her physical abuse their answer was literally "boohoo, you're such a little wimp trying to make it a big deal"

Yea, those people are sick in the head.

[–]MikiSayaka33 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I figured that society assumes that men are supposed to be the tough guys that aren't supposed to cry/show emotions. (But then on the flip side they want them to show their "feminine" side).

[–]Top_Row_5116 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This reminds me of the google definition for Sexism. Look it up, its a fun read.

Sexism:
"prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex."

Considering that reports have come out showing that sexism occurs as equal levels to both genders, google should really get that changed.

[–]Wise_Artichoke_3381 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The worst part is when people use stats....you do realize that that stat won't change until you start arresting the perpetrator. Until people as a whole realize everyone is affected by crime and women should be accountable to their actions like men. Then again society will continue sweeping it under the rug because they turned crime into a competition.

[–]guileless_64 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Wait. Women AND men should be accountable for abusing men is what you meant to say, right?

[–]Wise_Artichoke_3381 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Everyone should be accountable how hard is that to say. How about everyone stop vilifying everyone and grow up and stop saying equal rights when the other half gets coddled.

[–]guileless_64 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

“ Instead of acknowledging that most (if not all) issues can be thought of on a spectrum of possibilities and stances, the false dilemma fallacy asserts that there are only two mutually exclusive outcomes.”

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