This one is just a perspective I have been thinking about in regards to the whole "nice guy" thing.

I've heard a lot of things about it. Taking it literally, nice guy means someone who treats people politely and respectfully, and trying not to stir up any trouble. But I've also noticed a lot of people don't like the term nice guy cuz to them it means pushover, non-assertive, peace keeping, entitled, etc.

There was a time where I could see where this is going, especially if you're nice all the time which is unhealthy, but I'm wondering if there's any political bias in this discussion.

I notice in conservative groups, they talk about such guys as being weak, unmasculine, non-assertive, emotional, or they feel like he's too feminine as it's not right for a guy to be in their feminine. Then in the mainstream progressive groups, they talk about "nice guys" as being entitled, manipulative, incel, secretly an asshole, if they express frustration, or being seen as a moral failure.

Both discussions are often very unfavorable toward men who fit this profile. I think when someone is too nice, it's often an issue with people pleasing behaviour and self-esteem issues which are very real issues that need to be addressed. But this perspective I just point out, I don't believe both groups consider it from that perspective, but the framing those 2 groups offer just make the men in this category feel shameful for the position they're in, rather than showing them any kind of empathy.

I could be wrong here, but what do you guys think?