Want to start my journey.

MysteryLiezer · 2025-03-09T23:09:41+00:00

If you were paying for a coach, how would you know when to stop?

Mcfusion31 · 2025-03-09T23:26:14+00:00

Read no more, Mr nice guy

Western-Month-3877 · 2025-03-10T02:22:25+00:00

Take all the knowledge you can, a lot of sources on the internet are free. But one thing often overlooked is we are talking about skillsets, not just knowledge. So you gotta practice what you have learned.

I would even go farther by saying practice is more important than knowledge. A lot of players don’t even know about pickup, seduction methods, etc but they do it well because they learn by trial and error.

While on the other hand some guys think they become an expert because all the knowledge they’ve read or have got by having “graduated” from a paid workshop or course without applying any of it in real life. I’d take practice over knowledge or so-called theory any time of the day.

ThatDarnSmell · 2025-03-10T02:50:10+00:00

Most men feel uncomfortable talking to women they are wanting to pursue. So practice it until it feels like any other natural part of your day. Do not take on any kind of persona and don't lie, manipulate, or be disingenuous in any way to be what you think is she looking for. Build confidence by practicing/adapting your social skills around women and being comfortable courting them. Continue building yourself as a man in your career, maintaining hobbies, networking, staying in shape, eating healthy, etc. Talk to women, go on dates and learn from mistakes along the way. Hopefully you'll find a great partner. Don't be afraid to be selective if you feel the compatibility isn't there. Seek more than just looks as relationships are complex investments that require a lot of patience and teamwork.

Square_Physics9258 · 2025-03-10T22:32:57+00:00

things that come to mind to me:

what helped me most were live, in-person programmes (so not just watching videos online but going to a live event). Julian (self mastery co, with the same persona as RSD but more self-help/inner game focused). meeting a "coach" in person is much-much more influential on oneself than just watching the videos.

a lot depends on your personality and life situation, what kind of education is effective for you.

in a "bootcamp" you will most probably be "commanded" to go approach this or that girl (the "coach" pointing out girls for you to approach). some people like this kind of education, some just walk off a bootcamp (leave it and go home).

some "education" is kinda negative (dabbling waaay too long on how to handle shit tests) , focusing more on "how to not lose" instead of "playing to win". but that depends on the coach.

my ideal coach would be some who gets you to "play to win" and is not fixated on your "batting average" and lets you take small steps/"smallchunking".

programs with live "hostess girls" who act out a situation with you in a relaxed seminar environment can be good but idk if they still exist.

concrete names of "coaches" are oldschool David X (direct game), Allen Roger Curry (direct game); Owen Cook, David Deangelo ("cocky and funny"), Julien Blanc. on youtube there are still videos of a "direct game summit".

some people are more "blackpill"/looksmax, like the youtuber Wheat Waffles /Honest Waffles, but he does have a lot of data and real world experience.

there is some super old content regarding direct game from Badboy (pua), Gunwitch (just some ebooks), Zan Perrion (book and videos/guest appearances). Nick Krauser did write some daygame books.

Juggler (Wayne Elise) was also liked by some but he has his very own style, light direct.

in the old programs of David Deangelo/Eben Pagan, he had a lot of guest speakers illuminating multiple aspects of game.

indirect game...mostly Mystery Method/Venusian Arts (it can be really had to do as a beginner). once there was also a "Stylelife Acedemy" with Neill Strauss.

all this was flowering between 2006 and cca. 2012. since then, mostly Self Mastery Co has had the biggest outreach and all others mostly retired.

some people need regular meetups with an "accountability coach".

MineDesperate2920 · 2025-03-13T05:09:31+00:00

Go to the club/bar 3-4x a week sober and start talking to women. Then post your issues as they come up here. Goodluck

Title	Want to start my journey.
Author	HF_Twat2004
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Date	March 9, 2025 11:04 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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