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Well you’re suffering from oneitis. But it’s never too late regardless your age. Just manage your expectation.
/r/seduction28/07/26 06:16 PM
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Well, money is always a variable. I’m not talking about guys who spend a lot on a woman in order to please her. That’s mostly done because they got nothing else to offer. A lot of women like to start from 100 (scale 0-100) when they decided to go out with a guy, which to me it’s basically a trap. Once you can’t fulfill that 100, she’d probably see you like a failure. What I mean by a 100 is they’d like to be catered with fancy dinner even on a first date. Or you gotta buy fancy stuff for her eve…
/r/seduction28/07/26 06:15 PM
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To be honest, it’s not easy. I would even say it’s hard. If you have a 9-5 job and no extra activities you probably could do both. I remember when I was a kid I read an article where Madonna was interviewed about her life as a singer, she said “24 hour is not enough for me, i wish there was more hours in a day.” I chuckled when I read that, thinking that she exaggerated. Now I realized for people who work 10-16 hour a day, the balancing of your business/career vs love life is not easy at all. Th…
/r/seduction26/07/26 08:50 PM
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In reality you can’t avoid getting rejected. Even all great successful people fail, too. They also miss their shots. I think people with extreme anxiety looking at rejection more like a phobia. It’s like fear of height or fear of spiders. Yes, height or spiders could be a bit scary but not really as scary as some people perceive. Same thing with rejection. After getting rejected, you’re still gonna be fine, no bruise no broken bones. You’re not gonna get a heart attack afterwards or someone had …
/r/seduction25/07/26 06:41 PM
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You’re not a great texter, then what’s the solution? Cmon think. It’s just common sense. Like she already swiped right that means she’s at least showing some interests. What’s next after chatting with her online even for just a minute? Keep chatting with her online? There’s a friend of mine always asked for my help with his dating app. Which I did help him a lot, until I came to the point where I was the one who totally interacted with her for days. I asked him “what’s your plan with her, bro? A…
/r/seduction21/07/26 04:45 PM
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If the event requires participants to wear formal dress, then no. Yes there are speed datings that look pretty formal. It’s because all participants are over 30-40 years old, and typically people around this age are at least in middle management position. But I wouldn’t recommend it. There’s no personal touch in it (just like leaving a note on the table to a waitress “call me 555-555-555”). Exchanging phone numbers is always the ideal. Even better if she puts it in herself. Yes I’m still talking…
/r/seduction21/07/26 11:32 AM
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If money is your consideration, I genuinely wonder if you’ve spent a lot on the previous dates with her? Don’t get me wrong. There’s a lot of girls out there who appreciate on building connections. But there’s also a lot of girls who equal “the more he’s spent money on me = the better the date is”. Which one is she? Try spending much less or even none next time you are with her and see her reaction.
/r/seduction18/07/26 08:16 PM
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If I were you I would read the company’s policy. Mine is pretty flexible, as long as we do it or it happens outside company higher ups don’t really care. But some companies require you to report anything even if it’s just a casual relationship. I’ve slept with colleagues and coworkers, never in trouble. The closest one was I was being reported because “she hates to see me around after our breakup” which obviously a silly argument. There was a case where a weirdo guy got fired. He kept texting mu…
/r/seduction18/07/26 02:12 PM
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Breaking rapport, framing, negging, breadcrumbing. Search all those terms in this sub.
/r/seduction16/07/26 11:10 AM
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Beauty is a dime a dozen. Are you gonna get attracted to every beautiful girl you see? To answer your question: beautiful, extroverted girls generally have lots of options. They like being the center of attention, they know they’re beautiful, they easily make guys simp on them because their beauty and their voice draw attention quickly. So instead of thinking of trying to understand her being extrovert, put yourself in her shoes. If you were her, would you be attracted to yourself? What makes yo…
/r/seduction14/07/26 02:35 PM
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How old are you, OP? Just curious if you’re around 18 or early 20’s. Look if you wanna know about a girl, or anybody; here’s the general idea: talk to the said person. I never understand people ask online random strangers about someone they know. Typically people who ask this type of questions are teenagers or young adults. You can talk to her, and we can’t. So you actually have an advantage. Yes you’re overthinking it; simpler is better. To answer your question; we can’t. I’ve slept with women …
/r/seduction14/07/26 02:22 PM
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It will significantly improve. But do it for yourself, not for a girl/date. Or you can do it while going on dates (multitasking). Try ozempic, retra, fasting, whatever. Many ways to do it.
/r/seduction14/07/26 02:08 PM
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If it’s confusing to you, can’t deal with their loud voice, are you still attracted to them? Sorry for asking this question, but your post kinda doesn’t make sense. Generally people need to get attracted to others first. But there’s nothing in your post showing you being attracted to this type of girls.
/r/seduction14/07/26 12:36 PM
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Nah that’s just ragebait. Change your algorithm. I would say culture wars in the US social media are more prevalent than in other countries and IMO that’s by design: Men vs women. White vs black. Almost everything in US social media is treated like WWE entertainment industry, they want you to be mad, raged. They want you to hate 1 group and stand up for your own group. But in reality I don’t find a lot of men-hating women in real life. Maybe like once or twice in the last 10-15 years. Or maybe m…
/r/seduction12/07/26 02:47 AM
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Been to many countries including EU. Doesn’t mean jackshit. Maybe it’s not about women vs men. Maybe americans in general are more… unpolished, men and women alike? Like those dumb prank videos where all it started? Oh right America. But hard for me to say that just from some anecdotes. Even if it was true, I could also blame it on older generations; their parents. Who raised these fools? Oh.. american dads and moms.
/r/seduction12/07/26 02:18 AM
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you had 1 bad experience then you concluded “everything in this subreddit is useless in America”. Years ago I had a woman spat in my face then few months later a girl threw up on me repeatedly. Bad? Yes, but doesn’t make me think that “fuck this shit I’m done with women.” Don’t fall into the trap of looking yourself like a victim. It’s dangerous. Idc what your skin color or your gender is but once you fall into “perpetual victim” mindset, it’s hard to get out of it. I hate it when feminists say …
/r/seduction12/07/26 02:01 AM
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Common problems dealt by guys who have STEM or hard science background. They treat it like an engineering problem, something that’s exact or rigid like a log of wood. Turned out human behavior is pretty much like water, it’s fluid. Zen seduction: be like water, don’t be like wood. Regardless in the end you’re getting hard like a wood and spurting it out like spring water.
/r/seduction12/07/26 01:13 AM
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This is just the first part of a bigger picture. Don’t worry about it. See it like the pilot episode of a whole series. She’s shutting herself down should be taken as she’s taking her time to process what’s going on. She’s learning that you’re not like other guys and you don’t care if she’s hot. But of course in the next interaction, you can always show her that you’re playful and can be easy going too. That would make her think that you act properly depending on the situation, not depending who…
/r/seduction11/07/26 01:49 PM
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You can only turn it around if you didn’t catch feelings in the first place. But you’ve done massive investments in her so it’s a done deal. Investment = feelings. Sounds like you know the signs are there that it’s heavily one-sided but you kept going until you see more glaring signs. If I were you I would just cut her off. But to a lot of guys it’s also hard to do that because they did a lot of investments (sunk cost fallacy). So they tend to double down in fear of losing of all the investments…
/r/seduction08/07/26 11:04 AM
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That’s why humans decided to get married, apart from procreation. Just like our ancestors used to be nomadic, it was hard for them because they didn’t know if they’re gonna eat the next day. Then they slowly shifted from hunters gatherers to doing agriculture. It’s like infinite money glitch. The sources were always there. They don’t have to more around. They settled. Marriage or cohabitation is the same way; it’s like an infinite sex glitch. The source is there. Horny? She or he will always be …
/r/seduction07/07/26 04:23 PM
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Don’t overthink it. Keep doing what you doing. 5 approaches is rookie number. I don’t even count these as “approaches”, just say hi and bye in 1 minute? Nah, don’t count them in they’re just passersby. When I first did my cold approaches, I was so embarrassed because that reminds me of my friend who offered food taste to customers at a mall where he worked at. He stood by the mall entrance and offered people a piece of food on a tooth pick. He said same repeated line “would you like to try it?” …
/r/seduction06/07/26 12:36 AM
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Idk, ask them. This is similar to “my wife said this. What does she mean by that?” Do I look like your wife? No? OK ask her, then. But seriously, you should ask them. Even among men we don’t tend to agree on everything. Let alone women’s idea on masculinity. It could also be a good conversation topic you’d have with them.
/r/seduction05/07/26 03:17 PM
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There’s a big difference between knowing something and doing it, especially when it comes to skills. Hence it’s called a skill. Not some memorized information that when there’s a test you can put the correct answers on the paper, it doesn’t work that way. Just look at the World Cup that just happened recently. I bet you millions of the audience know a lot about football. But when it comes to actually doing it, are they even almost as good as the players in the field? Probably not. I know you’re …
/r/seduction05/07/26 01:48 PM
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It’s kinda pathetic that we (or they?) observed social skills from a movie. It’s all scripted. What if the writer wrote that the boss gets all the girls and Brandon got none? One could say Brandon is nonchalant (which is beneficial in general) and the boss is too high energy, could come across as too needy or too direct. But there are cases that being nonchalant misinterpreted as passive, introverted. While being too high energy could be seen as leading the pack, being initiative, pro active, co…
/r/seduction04/07/26 07:30 PM
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Hookups are like slam dunks in a basketball game. That was like an advanced skill. Before you do a slam dunk, you gotta be able to master a layup first. Can you do a lay up in approaching girls? Edit: even before mastering a layup, you gotta be able to dribble a ball. In social skills, can you “dribble a ball”? Can you dribble a ball while walking, while running? Can you dribble a ball without looking? In other words: Can you maintain a convo with stranger? Up to this point you’re only able to m…
/r/seduction04/07/26 06:24 PM
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Try both compliment and situational openings in real life and see which one you like more. This is my suggestion: If you’re still a beginner, or you lack social skills, any canned openers is good for you. Giving a compliment falls into this category. At least it’s better than nothing. So you have something in mind that would get you mentally prepared. The goal is not to get laid or have a woman attracted to you. The goal is to have you familiarized with approaching and social interactions. If yo…
/r/seduction04/07/26 06:10 PM
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Just search “books” in this sub you will see a lot. The most common ones are “Mystery Method” by Mystery, “The Game” by Neil Strauss, “Models” by Mark Manson, “Mode One” by Allan Currie. Or you can read the top (of all time) posts in this sub. Just change its setting in “feed options.”
/r/seduction02/07/26 11:40 AM
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Social capital is…. a capital. It’s only useful if you know how to use it. This is why guys who are successful with women don’t necessarily do cold approach, so long as they got good seduction skills PLUS extended social circles. Why do you have to approach a stranger if you have almost unlimited number of acquaintances to choose from? But in reality most people don’t have that luxury. Not just guys, women too. Typically the older we get, the fewer friends we have. That makes sense because we lo…
/r/seduction02/07/26 11:36 AM
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What do you actually want? Make up your mind. Do you want to talk to her? Then talk. Do you wanna ignore her? Then ignore her. Idk if it’s true but I feel like you wanna talk to her, at least to get a closure, like what really happened last time you were together? Then bring it up. Ask her if she’s angry with you. Either talking or not talking, they’re not big deal at all. But don’t stay in a limbo like you don’t even know what you want. But to answer your title “should you try something again?”…
/r/seduction01/07/26 12:17 AM
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Yes, it’s typically a fear of rejection. You want to protect your image in her eyes so much so that you don’t want her to think of you negatively. Start by not attaching your emotions in her. Liking her is fine, like liking her smile, her face, her body, her personality. But that’s about it. You gotta keep in mind that even tho you know her, she’s somehow still a stranger to you. Meaning that if you wanna be honest, there’s no emotional bond between you and her. At least not yet. So putting your…
/r/seduction28/06/26 10:47 PM
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That could be where the problem is. A lot of guys, including me, see a first date as a warmup, something that’s not a big deal at all. An introduction phase. If we don’t connect after we meet up then that’s totally fine. But in my experience, I found some, if not many, girls want to be warmed up before the first date takes place. They see a date, even a first one, is some kind of a big deal. This is where I find a mismatch, not between the people themselves, but between how they see a first date…
/r/seduction28/06/26 10:35 PM
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How long do you converse with them before planning for a date? I’d say few days up to a week is not too quick, assuming it’s a daily convo. #2 and #3 are definitely solid, #1 is where gray area is.
/r/seduction28/06/26 10:22 PM
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This is what I keep telling people, social skills start at home. Overprotective, sheltered, introverted parents don’t actually help their kids grow up, even tho they think they did. If your biggest concern is “what to talk about” in general, basically the sky is the limit. You can just throw any topic that’s on your mind. From light conversations (weather, food, class schedules, music, entertainment) to heavy ones (politics, news, history, science, philosophy, etc). Guys are typically open to th…
/r/seduction28/06/26 10:11 PM
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A lot of people mistakenly think that by venting out their life problem constantly to their date, their gf/bf, they would get the pat in the back. That’s how they were conditioned or built over the years. Maybe by their parents, maybe by their exes. The logic goes like this: “oh if I complain more they will give me more attention.” I would just tell her that not only you don’t like to hear the negativity, but you want to hear more of the positivity in her life. Redirect her to be a “half-full gl…
/r/seduction28/06/26 09:58 PM
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It sucks that guys pay thousands of dollars in order to be trained for social/seduction skills. But tbh your program sounds like a record keeping plus basic AI to giving advices, which obviously doesn’t cost even close to those coaches/gurus program. At least with those gurus they got physical interaction and hands-on training. Prices of both these programs are wildly marked up, but one is more blatant than the other.
/r/seduction27/06/26 01:07 PM
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Tell us more about your interaction. No way we know what’s going on since we weren’t there. What makes you think that you talked too much about yourself? How was their reaction when interacting with you? Because “really connected” could be a misleading feeling. As if your brain tells you the convo was good but the other party feels like they wanna kill themselves. So you gotta see visible reactions. Did they also talk as much as you? Did they ask some questions back to you? Did they touch your a…
/r/seduction26/06/26 11:00 AM
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Well I said tone it down. Not saying you can’t at all. They are your valuable assets, don’t cheapen them by giving them away like freebies. Be strategic about it. Treat them like women treat sex. Give them at the right moment and the right person. Also like girls and sex, you can even use them as your bargaining power.
/r/seduction23/06/26 01:25 AM
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Just do it, but don’t ask for her number. Just approach her, have some small talks, then ask her out. You could do it in 1 day or within multiple days. I would suggest the latter so she would be safe and comfy with you too, knowing that you’re a regular customer. If she said no then you get your answer. I’ve slept with baristas and servers before, just by doing cold approaches. Don’t overthink it by thinking “oh they’re nice to you because it’s their job.” Yes of course it’s their job. I often t…
/r/seduction22/06/26 03:15 PM
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You’ve already answered your question, man. Your warmth and availability is your charm. Take them down a notch.
/r/seduction22/06/26 03:10 PM
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Remember what I said: you gotta make them feel something. Something is better than nothing. Good luck out there!
/r/seduction21/06/26 02:26 PM
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Just type “daygame infield” on YT search then watch many of them. If their opener is “what’s your name?”, “how you doing?”, “where you from?” or any of those interview-style questions, I would just skip them.
/r/seduction21/06/26 02:15 PM
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There’s this one gorgeous girl I had a date with. She talked deeply about her war-torn country without me even asking her. It sounds so bleak that at times I just tuned out. I even thought that if a guy did this, he would’ve been giving a red flag. But I managed to turn it around by just simply saying “I wish I was there.” She looked surprised and said “nobody wanted to be there.” I replied “Well, at least if I was there we could take care of each other.” She just blushed after I said that. Righ…
/r/seduction20/06/26 09:19 PM
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There’s always a Karen once in a while, don’t let her hinder your progress. She’s just another NPC popping up in your journey.
/r/seduction20/06/26 08:23 PM
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2 hours is way too long for small talks, especially if it didn’t go nowhere. There’s no “wrong” conversation topics, if that’s what you meant. But I believe the most typical problem in regards of talks, is guys don’t escalate. I’m not only talking about physical escalation. There’s always a loophole in any topics that you can redirect it into an escalation. From topics of jobs to families, heck even topics on wars and deaths. What I meant was that you should escalate it to “you and me” topics. T…
/r/seduction20/06/26 08:21 PM
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Nah, it’s just a banter. If she laughed and asked your name, it’d be called a nice rizz. But she walked away (I assumed because she’s not ready with a comeback), then you thought it was too direct. It’s the same guy, same reply. But imagine a girl could define or redefine which one it was, whether it was a rizz or too direct. Don’t give a girl that much power.
/r/seduction20/06/26 07:44 PM
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How long do you guys text after the match? Some people like to prolong it to days or even weeks. Engagement should be done physically. I would just text for an ice breaker and start asking her out. Don’t create another momentum over text. The “match” is your momentum, you’ve already had it.
/r/seduction18/06/26 12:40 PM
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I personally believe if you reach certain age (maybe mid 20’s or early 30’s), birthdays don’t mean much anymore. Idk about you, OP. If you feel like you wanna do something else on your birthday like with your friends or family members, I think that’d be a much better option than going out with someone new. But if you cancelled the date and stayed at home by yourself and feeling miserable the optics ain’t good at all, I think that’s the worst option. Even going out with her would be a slightly be…
/r/seduction17/06/26 04:13 PM
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Well if you spent large amounts of time doing approaches and got no results then stop and evaluate. That’s just like everything else in life. No, change the venue doesn’t mean shit especially if you compare NYC to Seattle or Vancouver. I’ve been to 3 cities, nothing vastly different among them. Of course you don’t go to tourist traps. You go to where locals go.
/r/seduction15/06/26 05:55 PM
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Make her finish first. Use your finger, tongue, fist, whatever. Then do deep penetration afterwards. Finish doesn’t mean it’s over. Just consider it a time out. Do it again in 10-15 mins. Now you can go longer.
/r/seduction15/06/26 05:50 PM
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Yeah, that happens once in a while and that’s normal. It’s called a rotation. Women have been doing it for ages, they have a roster of guys that they feel like they wanna go out with/sleep with. But of course, if she hasn’t talked to you for a while then she reaches out to you out of the blue, that’s probably she’s put you on the bench and finally picks you when her main guy is a no show or she has a problem with him. Nowadays men just basically copy and paste what women have been doing. Includi…
/r/seduction15/06/26 11:26 AM
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It doesn’t matter whether it’s dating or being a bf-gf. Reciprocation is the name of the game. So is everything else in life. No such thing as “unconditional love”, that’s just a myth. Even in family relationship, parents invest in kids because they expect them to reciprocate by being good in school, get a good job or run a good business, then when they grow up and make good money they could take care of their retired parents. I’m not saying a man shouldn’t pay anything for a woman, whether in d…
/r/seduction13/06/26 11:06 PM
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There should at least be a baseline. You can sometimes tell just by looking at each other. You smile and she smiles. She smiles and stares at you like she wanna undress you. But you can’t really rely on that. There are some people who are really good with poker face. Been there done that. This is why you can’t really rely on “signals” or IOI’s. Either they are not there every time, or you could misinterpret them.
/r/seduction13/06/26 10:57 PM
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Ask her to send you money first. Tell her that’s the only way to “unfreeze your deposit” so you could send her a lot more. When and only when she does that, then block her number and never talk to her again. At least you got some of your money back. What kinda man would say “I know she’s lying but I also love her a lot”? My dad once told me if you’re not wealthy, dignity is the only thing you have left as a man.
/r/seduction13/06/26 10:40 PM
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Everything matters and should be taken into account. Usually people who say “this or that doesn’t matter” takes something fringe/outside the mainstream as an example. Like “my friend is very fat but he sleeps with lots of women”. Even if that’s true how many overly obese guys you know have sex with lots of women? Same thing like the infamous example “Bill Gates is a college dropout but he’s a billionaire” yeah but how many millionaires/billionaires are college dropouts and how many college dropo…
/r/seduction13/06/26 12:16 PM
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Frame and calibration: Sorry for the lingos, but you can look them up in this sub. Basically you set your own tone, pace, and boundaries in the beginning. You don’t just do stuff to impress a girl or to show her that you’re a nice guy. Don’t be afraid to say no or I can’t, for example, if she asks you to do something for her. Show her that you have your own life, your own schedule, your own goal. Here’s an example: I could be a frugal, but in other people’s eyes I could come across as stingy. Sa…
/r/seduction12/06/26 09:41 PM
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It’s not your fault then. Like I often say not everything is a guy’s fault. But we men tend to want to fix a problem even tho we didn’t cause it. This is also why I don’t focus too much on OLD’s. Seems like the crazies are there for a reason.
/r/seduction12/06/26 08:15 PM
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If her profile doesn’t clearly indicate that she wants casual, sex only, fwb, ons, open relationship, I wouldn’t reply or direct the msg to something sexual or even sexual innuendo jokes. At least not before first meetup/date.
/r/seduction12/06/26 08:04 PM
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Why did you think that she thinks you’re trying to be manipulative? From your story, you sound like a simp/mr. Nice guy. Sending an uber an hour away? You do that kinda stuff for your kid, wife, or your family member, but not your date. Still way too early for that. What I could guess is that she’s now figured you out. You’re always there when she needs to vent. Always offer help for her. You’re becoming boring and predictable. Even tho she texts you les and less often, she knows you’re always t…
/r/seduction12/06/26 07:57 PM
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“ChatGPT, she said thanks. What should I do next?”
/r/seduction10/06/26 04:33 PM
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In old PUA communities, the numbers are not necessarily about face/looks or body. It’s called “HB scale” as hb stands for hot babe. It’s a scale for overall scores not just appearance. A girl could be a 9 on looks and body, but if she’s doesn’t treat a waitstaff well, a bitch, or a gold digger, she might as well be an HB5. You’re wasting your time dealing with this low score. The other way around is also true. Body and face could be average (5-7), but if she has good personalities, good frames, …
/r/seduction09/06/26 11:26 PM
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ABC. Always be closing.
/r/seduction09/06/26 11:18 PM
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Being hostile is if she gives you a middle finger or throw water in your face. Just because you give her a compliment, doesn’t mean she owes you a conversation. That’s called being entitled. Don’t be like that typical “mr nice guy” who after giving a woman something, then he thinks she owes him something else. Besides, she already said thanks to your compliment. Then…what? What’s your next move? That’s where your social and conversational skills come in handy. If you don’t have any, then learn t…
/r/seduction07/06/26 05:23 PM
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Tbh all her images in your head made you fumble. “So elegant and effortless, and sexually appealing, the waist from her crop top” You put her on the pedestal even before talking to her. Yeah she’s probably cute or hot, so what? It’s not like you looking at her stepping down on heavenly stairs and made your jaw dropped. Just treat her like a regular human being. That way you can talk to her like 2 human beings talk to each other. You don’t know her yet. She’s a stranger, for all we know she could…
/r/seduction07/06/26 02:45 PM
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Good for you for taking action. We all learned from our mistakes. No such thing as perfection especially when we just started our journey. Just keep improving and having an open mind. Best of luck!
/r/seduction07/06/26 02:31 PM
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Waiting for “ideal way” like you said is just utopian. That’s just the images planted in our head by romcom movies that it feels romantic and magical; where the girl gives the signal, the guy approaches, then down the road they both live happily ever after. Most girls don’t walk around giving signals away like “approach me please!” or “I’m safe to approach, please do!” Maybe they do give a hint if you’re like the top 0.1% of male population or a famous celebrity and all the girls inside the buil…
/r/seduction07/06/26 02:22 PM
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People who advert that shitty Shawty app is not even trying anymore lol. Out of money to use AI slop?
/r/seduction06/06/26 12:26 PM
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Good for you. Some guys have known their GF’s all their life, they even have same parents.
/r/seduction05/06/26 08:59 PM
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Shy and nurse shouldn’t be in one sentence lol. But anyway, just take it easy. If she says yes then schedule it asap, the same day or next day. If she said no then say “cool, thanks” or whatever. >>What does her being nervous and delaying mean? Is this a soft rejection or just shyness? Man quit overcomplicating it. You asked her and she said she will answer. That simple. The ball is in her court now and you just wait. Don’t overthink it by trying to read her mind or whatever motives, plans, feel…
/r/seduction05/06/26 04:53 PM
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I can vouch for this. When I was at my heaviest weight, everything seemed to be half-glass empty. I tended to look at things negatively. Definitely a self-defeating mindset. And I looked at people negatively as well. Like I became sinister and paranoid. Going down to my weight in HS or college also solved other problems. Your self esteem, the way people perceive you etc.
/r/seduction04/06/26 02:46 PM
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The “volume mantra” only works if you don’t approach at all or you just approach a single digit in a week. Just like going to the gym; yes you need to go to the gym if you don’t. And you need to go to the gym more often if you only do it once in a while. But… … if you already go to the gym regularly, the mantra doesn’t work at all. You need to learn to improve your methods, your techniques. This is why there’s some guys who barely have significant improvement even tho they go to the gym for year…
/r/seduction04/06/26 02:37 PM
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It depends on what “wrong” is. If it’s completely a wrong thing or a red flag, sure. But in my experience that’s most likely not the case. Just look at online dating subs; if there’s a guy posting his profile pic there and asks for suggestions, some women would say “don’t take pic with girls. You look like a player or try too hard.” But if a guy put his pic by himself only, they be like “you look like a loner.” Or in real life if a guy comes early to the date some women would say he’s desperate.…
/r/seduction01/06/26 10:50 AM
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Hmm you’re right. I stand corrected. Wonder why there’s that stigma when I learned business in school. I even remember we had a long hour discussion in class touching that topic.
/r/seduction31/05/26 05:21 PM
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Like people say comparison is the thief of joy. But tbh we shouldn’t compare ourselves to others but to our best self. The most typical cases is there’s one point in life where we were physically peaked (usually in hs or college), then we are going downhill because we’ve been slacking in order to focus on career etc. I always believe if you’ve been in that point before, you can always go back to that point. There’s also other cases that we haven’t even tried so there’s no point of reference. Lik…
/r/seduction31/05/26 05:19 PM
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Pretty privilege is real. I’ve learned that since young age. Teachers favor good looking students over the bad looking ones. Heck, even parents do that too. Also in school I’ve learned that majority of fortune 500 CEO’s is over 6 feet tall. So I guess height privilege is real, too? It’s like being pretty and tall is like having life on easy mode. But seriously, how bad looking are you? Because I don’t believe there’s only 2 sides: good looking vs bad looking. There’s gotta be the middle ground “…
/r/seduction31/05/26 04:22 PM
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>>Girls, being the maestros at reading social cues that they are A lot of people, not just girls but guys included, can sense insecurity in others. But once you believe that girls have this mythical spider sense, you’d fall into the trap you made for yourself. Congrats! You just put them on the pedestal.
/r/seduction31/05/26 04:02 PM
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It’s scary because flirting has such a thin margin of error. So is shooting a basket ball for first couple times. Or swimming. Or driving a car. Or any other things in life when you just first start doing it. The chance you fail will be huge. But it doesn’t stop people from doing it. When you fail then you try again. I said when not if, because 99% or 100% you would fail. Until you get “the feeling”. I put that word in quote because there’s actually lots of variables involved in there. For examp…
/r/seduction29/05/26 05:33 PM
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Quit focusing on the age. Seriously. Nothing kills the vibe than worrying about something that’s insignificant. It won’t help you at all, trust me. Do older women mind escalating? Well if you can imagine she’s shaking her hip on top of you and can make you cum then you got your answer. Do they play the slow long game? Do you think people in the same demographics, in this case “older women”, have a hive mind? It’s like saying black people are good at playing basketball. What kind of compliments w…
/r/seduction29/05/26 05:20 PM
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Don’t oversell it. Even better, if you’re “just” an employee then tell her you’re unemployed. See her reaction. If she wanna do a shit test, you can do one as well on top of hers. My principle is simple: wealthy people wanna look poor with their out of style fashion or ripped dirty jeans. They don’t give a fuck if people mistakenly think that they’re poor. While poor people wanna look rich by wearing bling bling or shuffling all the cash they got and post it on social media. Which mindset you pr…
/r/seduction29/05/26 05:06 PM
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Find out where the good looking ones are or where they hang out. Seriously, let’s say out of 17k there’s only 10% that are single/available. Wait… just make it to 1% if we wanna talk about single and attractive ones: Then it means there’s 170 of them. Hypothetically speaking, you could rotate 170 of them for a full year and you wouldn’t get bored. Heck, even if you find out only 10% out of this 170 which is 17 are feasibly fuckable, that is still good in my eyes. We’re talking about only 0.1% of…
/r/seduction29/05/26 01:48 PM
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I just replied hey its me from the bus and she left me on read. There’s your big clue right there. No matter how she seemed interested in you during that bus trip (big chance she might be trying to be polite or courteous and you misinterpreted it), leaving you on read is the confirmation whether she was interested. Let’s say she might be interested in you at the time, in order to justify your feelings/emotion. But now She’s clearly not.
/r/seduction28/05/26 07:55 PM
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either fat or smell bad LoL yup that’s what my friends told me too. Good luck to you man. I believe these groups are out there with few decent looking ones in there, but it’s like finding a needle in a haystack.
/r/seduction27/05/26 02:44 PM
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That 3-4 years gap is frowned upon because you were just in school. That’s pretty much a high school/college mindset. If you stay in a workplace long enough you’d see that the gap is not that narrow. Even up to +10 years; people go out with their coworkers or their bosses which totally fine. Unless you live in Japan or S korea where this kinda thing is very important. Over there most tend to choose partners around their age. Even if you’re just a few months older than them, then they should trea…
/r/seduction27/05/26 02:35 PM
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It is difficult. Let’s say you’re looking for decent looking ones (at least 7s or 8s), and let’s say average looking people are roughly 50% of the total population (average is the keyword). So if you look for a 7 or 8 alone without additional requirements or traits (I mean; hot only, without being a swinger), that % would probably be only 30-40%. And out of that group, how many of them are also swingers? Maybe like 10-20%, and I assume that’s a very generous percentage. I wouldn’t be surprised i…
/r/seduction26/05/26 09:16 PM
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Nah man, even me living in the west always ignore the “just move to X city” advices. Not just because of money or anything, but a workable advice should be feasible at the very least. Even for people who live in the west, what’s the % of guys who are ready to move to another city because of there’s more attractive girls over there? I’d be surprised if it even reaches 10%. AFAIK, this issue was just often brought up in manosphere podcasters which we all know that’s their full time job. Either the…
/r/seduction26/05/26 08:46 PM
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Approach often is the answer. Not to mention that summer is around the corner. More and more girls will show up with tank tops and short shorts. By approaching often you’ll get used to it. You gotta normalize this situation. Reminds me of this funny bit by Key and Peele. Imagine getting aroused just by seeing a woman’s nose or ankle lol.
/r/seduction26/05/26 05:23 PM
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You got her number, then when you got home you ask her out through text. Can’t you see what’s wrong with this scene? Imagine another scene: You go to a Kentucky Fried Chicken Restaurant. You talk to an employee there and ask for their number. You go home. Then you call them and start ordering. These 2 scenes are pretty much the same thing. You’re already there. You’re face to face. But instead of escalating and getting it done, you do the “ask for the number - go home - then call them from home”…
/r/seduction24/05/26 02:03 PM
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You absolutely can. Back in the days there were a lot of jokes and funny stories how mail men and milk men approaching attractive housewives when their husband not at home. The problem is if you still ask whether you can, then you probably don’t know how to do it subtly or correctly. Because a better question should’ve been “how to do it without getting fired.”
/r/seduction24/05/26 01:53 PM
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Why do you think the problem is the cities? Any chance it might be you?
/r/seduction22/05/26 12:41 AM
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We already had sex but we were both drunk. “You know I’ve seen everything, right? You got nothing go to be shy of”
/r/seduction21/05/26 04:42 PM
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Most commenters here just read the title and don’t really read what you posted. This is actually a good advice. You playfully put an idea in her head. I remember one day a girl I went out with told me out of nowhere “remember, we’re not gonna do anything stupid ok?” And I was like “wait what? What do you mean? Like sex?” She goes “yes.” I then told her that it didn’t come across my mind, which made her blushed because now she’s the one who got caught thinking about it. But I just looked at it th…
/r/seduction20/05/26 02:11 PM
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There’s no shift. A lot of women have options; just because tomorrow she’ll go on a 1st date with a guy she’s met online, doesn’t mean she hadn’t sex with her ex or her other date few days ago. The difference is some of them are open about it to you.
/r/seduction20/05/26 01:23 AM
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They’re being playful. What would you do when people wanna have fun with you? It’s a club for f sake. Ideally men are the ones who should do that kinda interaction with women (taking their glasses off, dancing with them, etc). The fact that you froze shows that you were spooked and not ready with the fun and playful vibes in a club, like a deer in the headlights. You actually have an advantage when women do that. That means they start the interaction, it’s already positive to start with. You jus…
/r/seduction17/05/26 03:56 PM
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I never see those girls ever again Why? I thought it was your regular gym? Gym is like a school or a work setting, it’s a place you frequent. So the approach is kinda similar to those other settings. You just don’t close right away. Make herself familiarized to you first.
/r/seduction17/05/26 03:51 PM
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Liking her is okay, as long as you don’t have the feelings for her. The latter will make you put her on the pedestal. Don’t put her on pedestal, don’t treat her like you’d do anything for her, hoping that she’d like you back by being extremely nice to her. Be casual and generous with physical contact with her (giving her hugs, messing with her hair, holding her hands, having her sit in your lap, etc). Remember: casually, not enforced. Escalate slowly; give her a kiss on the cheek, neck, slowly m…
/r/seduction16/05/26 12:02 PM
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LoL I bet my body counts are way higher than you. But even tho I wouldn’t say this demographics or that group is the same. Sex is a biological need for vast majority of people, just because a girl wanting sex doesn’t mean she’s bad. This reminds me of “if a dude fucks a lot of girls, he’s a chad. If a girl fucks a lot of guys, she’s a hoe.” See the double standard?
/r/seduction14/05/26 01:07 PM
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The truth is people tend to regret something they didn’t do or have. Mr fuckalots also regrets why he keeps sleeping around and didn’t pursue his potential education and career he ends up feeling empty regardless of love juice keeps flowing. But I wouldn’t say “all girls think the same”, that just sounds like feminist-speak “all men are the same!”. Or maybe manosphere and feminism are just 2 different sides of the same coin lol, created on purpose to divide and conquer society.
/r/seduction14/05/26 12:43 PM
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what do you do in this situation? Her being upset is normal, she probably feels like “losing a friend”. But you catching feeling is the only problem I see here. If I were you I’d turn her into an FWB.
/r/seduction14/05/26 11:09 AM
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Because that’s how you look at yourself. Negatively. Fix your confidence first by treating yourself better; upgrade your wardrobe, get a better haircut, lose weight if you’re obese, gain some if you’re too skinny, feed yourself with nutritious food, even give yourself some good treatments like spa, massages, or skin treatment. When you start treating yourself well, others will treat you well too. When you start liking the way you treat yourself, others will like you easily.
/r/seduction12/05/26 12:44 PM
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Now the dynamic feels confusing. Of course! Both of you sound like both trying to manipulate each other. Or at the very least both of you don’t really know what each of you want. I’d say maybe because of the wide age gap. Or maybe.. is this a long distance? Her: I don’t want a relationship. But I want you to provide me with your time and attention. Again, you’re not my bf. Is that confusing enough for you? Good. Because I’m confused too. You: I want it to be casual. I only want to have sex with …
/r/seduction09/05/26 11:52 PM
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It has nothing to do with your age. See 20- something guys complain in this sub about low returns on cold approaching as well. It’s not that the cold approach doesn’t work. But the way you do it. Don’t just strike up a conversation for a couple minutes then ask for her number. Her number shouldn’t be your goal. For all we know they could always give you a fake number, or just politely give it to you so you can be out of their sight.
/r/seduction09/05/26 04:20 PM
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How good is your connection with her? I mean, if you’re both emotionally very connected and bonded, I’d probably let it slide. Even tho in general 3rd date is usually the “do or die” thing happens. But if it’s only good on surface level, then I would just end it. The fact that you have a thought about it and asked it here I’d guess it’s the latter. Not to mention your previous dates were lunch and dinner. It kinda feels superficial. No physical activities involving both of you like hiking, going…
/r/seduction09/05/26 02:36 PM
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Blue, red, black pills people are like blind people trying to identity an elephant by rubbing it. The first ones say “oh it has a tail, it must be a lion” The second say “it got thick skin, must be a rhino” The 3rd say “it has 4 legs, must be a table” I mean, you can always address the problem correctly yet still come at a wrong conclusion.
/r/seduction09/05/26 02:23 PM
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You already asked her out and she turned you down. It should be nothing else to talk about moving forward. When she pulled a “you’re angry with me” card against you, you should be aware she positioned herself as a victim and you as a perpetrator, which is stupid and evil at the same time. You have the right to not talk to anyone, it doesn’t make you a bad person. By using that right you’re not harming anyone. You just want to protect yourself. If I were you I’d stay away from her for good. No ne…
/r/seduction09/05/26 02:13 PM
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If you both agreed on a 2nd date why did you still ask? Less responsive is not necessarily a negative sign. Some people are actually busy on certain days. Like me, I don’t really do well with texts. I noticed some girls are like that, too. There’s a chance she might be a bit turned off by the way you intensified the convos (thru texts?). In my experience, maybe there’s only few texts between 1st and 2nd date. And that’s okay. That means there will be a lot of things to talk about when we meet up…
/r/seduction07/05/26 03:41 AM
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I remember someone said “we see things not based on the way they seem, but based on the way we are.” Basically a projection. If you feel like you start hating on women, or people in general, I’d say you probably need to start forgiving yourself. Idk, but I feel like for example when some people start becoming a Karen (where they could just try to control others, be nosy, or make a scene), subconsciously they do it because they feel like they start losing control in their life. So they take it ou…
/r/seduction07/05/26 03:29 AM
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You already started with interview-style questions. Like if you ask her how old she is then make it playful. “Lemme guess? 21” or you can ask her to guess your age, too. Or if you see her tired then don’t ask questions, you just say “you look tired” see if she tells you why she is tired, and stop asking her questions like you just made her more tired. Read the room. Come back next time. Next time just try to make a girl open up more. Don’t ask yes/no questions. Ask her opinions, make her smile o…
/r/seduction06/05/26 05:14 PM
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I had sex with a radfem one time. She told me she doesn’t wanna be on top as it’s too much work. I rest my case.
/r/seduction06/05/26 05:06 PM
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I can relate to you. I used to be in a debate school team even done multiple debating championship. Thanks to “Thank you for Smoking” movie I watched back then as an initial inspiration lol. It came to the point where it just became like a chess game. You choose black? Fine. You want white? Sure, it doesn’t matter for me. Just because choosing white has allegedly 5% increase in winning, doesn’t mean you’re gonna win. Same thing with debating and bantering. Oh you’re anti X? OK I will take the “p…
/r/seduction02/05/26 01:56 PM
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You dodged a bullet there.
/r/seduction01/05/26 10:40 AM
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That’s your chance to do physical escalation. Not to mention you have plenty of conversations to talk about. “How do you say a finger?” While holding her fingers. “How do you say lips?” Touching your lips, then touching hers. I once did this and she thought I was asking what a kiss meant. So we looked in the goole translate and both of us laughed. I typed in it “are you saying you want a kiss?” Other things could be fun too. Like asking her how to say I love you then when she says it, you say “a…
/r/seduction29/04/26 06:51 PM
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Been there done that. Stop treating her like a friend, start escalating verbally and physically. That’s how you escape. I can relate why people cheat, the sex sensation is just multiplying.
/r/seduction29/04/26 02:28 PM
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I’d just wait for her response. Why would you cancel it if that was her idea? She’s the one who should do it, not you. If one can’t keep their promise then it’s on them. You also have the power to judge and evaluate others, not just girls. If she flakes then give her a red flag status. Regarding the test: it’s always catch 22 when it comes to some kind of “test”. Let’s say she wanted to test you and found out that you’re too available. But on the other hand if you said “no I can’t”, she could al…
/r/seduction29/04/26 12:43 PM
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Start charging them money! LoL but seriously I get the assumption you’re some kind of a tour leader or some sort. They probably treat you like a host or a local and they see themselves as the guests. So out of politeness and courtesy you keep hooking them up. Now tell me why they get that impression if it’s not also from you? If I were you I’d play 2 different games at once. One for them and another for yourself. Set your potential girl apart by approaching her first, or at least have her physic…
/r/seduction29/04/26 03:23 AM
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Feel sorry for you. I seriously do. Got some friends who finally gave up their life (just) because of woman-related issue. My suggestion is: it’s not too late for you. Don’t get sucked into the self-pitying and self-depression. Low self esteem and low confidence is very fixable. Many people especially guys came out of that sinkhole alive. Instead of keep telling yourself how hard your situation is, start imagining your new image where you have high self esteem. That’s your first priority. You go…
/r/seduction29/04/26 03:05 AM
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then got her number and went back to my table. That’s your first mistake, imo. Night game is where you close her in on the spot. Her number is NOT the goal. You can have her number after you have sex with her. Stay with her and escalate even after you get her number. Start bar hopping with her, for example. Put your arms around her waist or her shoulders while you both walk together. Give her a hug, a kiss, etc. Night games in a club or a bar are like having fun in Narnia or whatever fantasy lan…
/r/seduction27/04/26 08:33 PM
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Elaborate what you mean by expressing with your hands, using your hands to convey you trying to remember? Like pantomime? If it is like pantomime yea it’s weird. And what are examples of your Ls? All these could be normal, or it could be seen as cringe or weird. But none of us seen what really happened, we all depends on your descriptions.
/r/seduction25/04/26 02:03 PM
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Wtf is “integrating with your unconscious”? Sounds like AI slop.
/r/seduction25/04/26 01:56 PM
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“Me, me, me” attitude is an instant turn off for me. You can call it narcissistic, selfish, or diva attitude. You can usually tell with her always draining energy from people around her it’s exhausting even just to see it, not even having to be directly involved.
/r/seduction25/04/26 01:12 PM
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It depends on the motive. I’m not stingy with compliments, but I don’t do it to put her on pedestal or seek her validation. It’s just part of me being flirtatious and playful. You can say “you’re hot!” with 2 distinct motives behind it. Women will react to your compliment in order to find out the motive. They do this all the time (at least with me) it just becomes predictable at this point.
/r/seduction25/04/26 12:57 PM
1

Isn’t that Mode One approach? Alan Roger?
/r/seduction25/04/26 12:43 PM
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Everything to do with human behaviors gotta be seen with context. This is why people with autism tendency struggle to read between the lines. For example: There was a famous bit of “no means no” by Bill Burr, check it out on YT. There are also thousands of examples just in this sub. Guys got confused with the so-called rules as if they are very strict. Not to mention some of them rules are ridiculous anyway ie: “3 day no texting after the date.” The intention may be good to not make you look so …
/r/seduction21/04/26 05:03 PM
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I used to smile a lot, but I stopped doing that when my ex was jealous that I always smile whenever I talk to girls. In my defense I smiled to everyone not just to attractive girls. Idk why I smiled a lot, maybe it was from my upbringing (I was taught to be nice and friendly to others) But what she said was an eye opening for me “You have a great smile. Don’t cheapen it by giving it to everyone. Much better when you give it to people who deserve it.” I was like whoah!
/r/seduction20/04/26 11:32 AM
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First time? LOL. Girls do this all the time, and that’s okay if there’s a hello there’s always a goodbye. It’s part of life. Tell her you’re moving abroad. And lower your energy when you interact with her. Slowly become distant. Especially when you finally move abroad, the distance is physically materializing. Don’t feel bad or guilty about it. That mindset “I don’t wanna hurt her” is actually infantilizing her. You think she’s incapable of dealing with that. To my surprise more guys have this m…
/r/seduction20/04/26 11:12 AM
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Talk to random people before you do a cold approach, say at least 8-10 people. Doesn’t matter if they’re men, women, old, young, ugly, cute. The goal is to put you in the mental state where your talking “muscles” become relaxed and flexible, to the point that you’re becoming talkative, borderline chatty. When you don’t talk to others, you still talk. But you talk to yourself. You have all those conversations in your head. This is a trap because this is the stage where you overanalyze everything …
/r/seduction20/04/26 11:04 AM
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Warm up first.
/r/seduction20/04/26 01:04 AM
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Then wait until both of you are in the same country. In the mean time approach other girls. Don’t cling into one who may not even feel the same way.
/r/seduction17/04/26 02:06 PM
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I read this a couple times until I realized both of you have no relationship whatsoever. Tldr: “I like her and I think she likes me.” Feels like “much ado about nothing”. Your and her race, her moving to another place, there might be a competition; they’re all insignificant in relation to what really happens between you and her. Not to mention that you treat this like a math problem which is rigid, while seduction is a social problem which is fluid. Be fluid like water: approach her, make some m…
/r/seduction17/04/26 01:57 PM
2

I’m starting to assume “eye contacts” to some guys is like having sex. It actually doesn’t matter, but maybe even for eye contacts they don’t get it regularly.
/r/seduction17/04/26 12:36 PM
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Don’t look at it like a chore you gotta do. If you love talking to people, just cold approach them even tho you also have some lined up from OLD.
/r/seduction17/04/26 12:34 PM
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are there any practical ways to be more likeable? Yes. Open up yourself. People don’t know what they like about you if you don’t open yourself up. More practical: learn how to actively listen, learn how to carry a conversation, last but not least: learn how to tell a short story (doesn’t matter if it’s a joke/not).
/r/seduction16/04/26 11:38 AM
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I feel like if she were actually attracted to me this wouldn’t be so hard so I need to move on. Trust your guts. If it feels heavy in your heart then it’s a no. Mixed signals = no. I personally believe attraction can grow, but your fatal mistake is you catching feelings. I used to be like you, catching feelings when the girl just gave me some casual touches and going out with me. Now even after having sex multiple times with many women, I don’t let my feelings involved. I guard them. The problem…
/r/seduction14/04/26 01:22 PM
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Ridicule that idea playfully. Send that “you’re not that dude, pal you’re not that girl” meme
/r/seduction13/04/26 11:57 AM
2

Who are these women you were talking about? Are they here with us? LoL. don’t yall wanna be loved? It depends on the individual. Side chicks and side dudes mostly happen because people have options. If they wanna be loved they have their main ones for that specific role while having casual sex with others.
/r/seduction13/04/26 11:32 AM
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they are doing it for the sake of doing it It seems that way, or that’s what I thought too when I first started the journey. It comes so naturally for lots of girls or women that they just throw this kinda shit like it’s nothing to them. But you gotta look at this from the bright side. This situation is much better than them just saying some one-liner sentences which put you in disadvantages (trying to carry the convo, etc). In reality they do this because they love drama, tensions, and love bei…
/r/seduction12/04/26 11:33 PM
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IMO this guidance only applies at maintaining a long term relationship. You need to keep the flames or they’d die. Whenever I sleep with MILF’s, it’s mostly because the sparks in their relationship have gone. Their husbands just keep giving them money or other physical needs but their bed is cold. Their husbands spend long hours outside pursuing careers or more business opportunities while their wives are bored at home, even barely have anyone to talk to. But you can’t just “keep watering the gr…
/r/seduction12/04/26 10:28 PM
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Fwb’s are like a staring contest without blinking, whoever blinks first lose. You could play the game but once you catch feeling you lose. Or some others treat their fwb’s like their toy/property, they don’t want their toys being played by another person. Regardless whether they’re men or women. In defense of my gender, I expect more women would lose in this kinda game. But tbh in reality that’s not the case.
/r/seduction12/04/26 10:17 PM
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Been to Al Ahmadi and KC in your country and other ME countries as well. Even got some lays too there. This is what I learned: some countries in ME are more conservative than others, but in general they’re practically the same, in a way of “do what I say, but don’t do what I do.” So everyone basically does taboo things in secrecy. Even with the “underground” clubs and everything. You can call it hypocrisy or double standards, but you gotta accept that as a fact. Once you do, then instead of look…
/r/seduction11/04/26 12:38 PM
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More like anecdotes.
/r/seduction10/04/26 01:59 PM
2

2nd interaction.
/r/seduction09/04/26 03:08 PM
2

Don’t you have it backwards? If people wanna meet for a drink, why would that mean they hide their personality or body issues? By meeting up they will reveal themselves. The quicker you meet up the better. No bs-ing around online chatting for days or weeks.
/r/seduction09/04/26 11:34 AM
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That reminds me of a scene in the old Bernie Mac show where Jordan his nephew told him that he has a gf now. He showed up in his school and saw his interaction with her. He was like “he doesn’t have a girlfriend. He is the girlfriend!” Yeah keep nurturing and “breastfeeding” them, congrats you’ve done a girlfriend’s role successfully. No wonder they leave you and find a guy who can fill in the boyfriend role.
/r/seduction07/04/26 11:36 AM
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Can’t believe that’s one sentence lol. How do you proceed? I’d run away from her. I would never response to people who blocked me in the past. They need to learn the consequences of their action. Then she reaches out to you when she needs you? That shows you how bad she is as a person. Regardless of her bf beating her. She’s a a fucking grownup, she can always leave her bf if she wanted to. Don’t make her problem become yours.
/r/seduction07/04/26 11:26 AM
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Not saying what you feel is not real. But I believe a real connection can only built over time. What you feel toward her could be your brain playing trick on you. Even tho there’s a possibility that it is real, how do you know if also she experienced the same thing or the feeling is mutual? By her deciding to not continue it with you, I think you should respect her decision.
/r/seduction06/04/26 02:48 AM
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Yes I have. I know how it feels like you’ve lost a decent person. The bar is pretty low like having a decent person is like hitting a jackpot. But I always try not to romanticize it. It’s not “unfinished” if it never started (first date doesn’t count, that’s technically just a warmup). I never have luck of reconnecting, but on 2nd thought maybe it’s better that way.
/r/seduction05/04/26 10:34 PM
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Keep writing field reports, man I enjoy them! Fewer and fewer people post them. At times I feel like warming up is often overlooked. I believe it can be a more important key than the approach itself. I can see how easy it is for you to jump from one group to another just in a few hours because of the warmup. Kudos!
/r/seduction03/04/26 11:32 PM
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But having outgoing parents won’t make you magically more social. Read my comment again. There’s nothing magical on what I had explained. Having extroverted parents helps a lot with getting more exposure since you’re a kid. Not only me, I see this with a lot of other people, too. I was raised in a church environment, very active in daily activities (music, swimming, basketball) since elementary school. Most of my family members from my mom’s side are extroverted as well, they never have a proble…
/r/seduction03/04/26 11:50 AM
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Which part of my comment that you don’t agree with? All your story is just basically how you tried to catch up and you finally did it.
/r/seduction02/04/26 11:17 PM
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Telling her she’s attractive falls into flirting. Don’t overcomplicate it.
/r/seduction02/04/26 02:52 PM
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If a girl gives you her hand, how should you respond? Same thing. This is a common guys’ problem. A girl said something and we just nod and take it as a general information, no more than that. We are like robots it’s all mechanical lol. A lot of guys are not familiarized and educated enough - like in the women’s world where they understand each other- how to properly respond to that. It’s like she’s offering you her hand, passing you a ball, doing some assists, and you just stand there without s…
/r/seduction02/04/26 02:49 PM
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But the guys that actually stand out don’t feel like they’re trying It’s not about right or wrong. You don’t get a complete picture. Guys who stand out have their social skills established since early age. Maybe they have female siblings, or their parents are extroverted by being very active in life and having their kids involved in daily social activities. The point is they have been exposed to talking and communicating with strangers all their life, including girls. So to them socializing and …
/r/seduction02/04/26 12:35 PM
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Idk about others but yea it’s common for me. Not necessarily holding hand, but at least some physical. The idea behind dating is she is your date, not your friend. So there’s gotta be some differences between going out on a date vs going out with a friend. What are the substantial differences? That’s where physical contacts come in. We don’t hold our friend’s hand or have their head in our shoulders, especially us guys. Another aspect I see from first date is expecting a kiss before the goodbye.…
/r/seduction01/04/26 12:19 PM
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Did she give you her number? If not, then I wouldn’t call or text her especially to ask her out.
/r/seduction31/03/26 06:15 PM
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Sitting is never good for first dates. I mean you can sit (while in a car, having a meal), but don’t make it the whole theme. Get your ass moving; walking (visiting an art exhibition, a gallery, vintage shops), playing a mini golf, going to an amusement park. The idea is to have some physical contacts like holding hands while crossing the street, having her hand hugging yours while observing a painting so you can have some moderate intimacy. This is the biggest reason why barely any 2nd date, th…
/r/seduction31/03/26 04:40 PM
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I don’t understand your question. You mean a clingy guy?
/r/seduction30/03/26 04:45 PM
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My initial thought would say you gotta move. But reading your post again, I’m thinking that wouldn’t solve your problem. Why? Because you’re a loner. You said it yourself you have no friends yet you’re still in your 20’s. This reminds me of an old post in this sub where the poster is a younger dude from europe, planning to go vacation to NYC for a week. In his post he asks for helpful tips on how to approach girls in NYC, yet… his social skill is technically non existent. The problem is not the …
/r/seduction29/03/26 04:13 AM
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I’m not disagreeing with your post, but I feel like approach anxiety posts always come up in this sub like almost every day. Every single time I’m like “did he ever use the search function? There’s a lot of suggestions and practical hints that have been offered in this sub.” That reminds me of this cousin of mine who’s 18 years old. Wanted to get his driver license but scared to learn how to drive. One day he said “you know ____ (our uncle) is an idiot. I can’t understand how he’s able to drive …
/r/seduction27/03/26 01:24 PM
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Nah that’s a red flag. Maybe her parents didn’t raise her right.
/r/seduction27/03/26 12:45 AM
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This is what I feel after reading his post. Feels like he keeps “attacking” and her trying to hold the fort. Yes, make her want you for once. Turn the table. In the long run it will benefit you as the dynamics would be roughly 2 way street not just one way.
/r/seduction26/03/26 06:04 PM
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IOI’s as the lingo suggests, are just indicators. Don’t rely too much on them. In my experience they’re too many to count where IOI’s are not there but I ended up sleeping with them. When you are no longer a beginner, you shouldn’t even take “her giving her number/IG” as an IOI. Heck even after she had sex with you, she can still ghost you the next day lol (and vice versa you do it to her). I have a tall very good looking friend… You can still game but don’t put yourself as his competitor. This …
/r/seduction26/03/26 05:59 PM
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I wasn’t sure if she was really into me So the only way to make it sure that she’s into you is by asking her out. By taking it to the next level. If she rejects me, how do I act around her at the gym later? If you’re so concerned with the humiliation that probably isn’t likely to happen, I would just ask her out NOT for a date. But something very casual like having lunch/coffee together. The point is not about “formalizing” the relationship into a formal status, but to test the water by making s…
/r/seduction26/03/26 11:12 AM
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Most people can relate to you: First cut is always the deepest. But it’s not like you’ve lost your wife of 20 years or you’ve spent everyday of your life with her intimately for years. From your story I may assume you were not that close to her to begin with. I’d say you probably fell in love with the image you have of her in your head, not the real her. I’d say just move on: You’re not Peter Parker and shes’s not MJ no matter how relatable the fiction is to you.
/r/seduction25/03/26 03:02 PM
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You’re running in circle for 5 months. Even without the rumor about another guy, what’s your plan with her anyway? Did you just think about it because there’s another guy in the picture so you now feel threatened? If I were you I’d just ask her out regardless of the “other guy” rumor. Probably too late, but I’d shoot my chance better late than never. At least you can have a disclosure with yourself.
/r/seduction25/03/26 02:58 PM
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How would you know she really went to see her parents? LoL. I mean, whatever it is, it feels like you’re timing her so right after 5th day as you counted it that she’s back in town you started texting her. Imagine the scenario where she lied to you (I hope not) so she can leave you gently, but then 5 days passed you right away texted her. Maybe in her head she’s like “oh gosh! He doesn’t get it, does he?” If I were you I wouldn’t text her in the first place, as she’s the one who left the town. I…
/r/seduction23/03/26 06:21 PM
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You’d come across as a weirdo if you do that. Imagine having to lose weight over a girl, and won’t send her your pics until you get ripped. I assume she even doesn’t know you that well. That’s just a validation-seeking behavior.
/r/seduction23/03/26 11:20 AM
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Some coaches really did one on one, but that was years ago. Right now self-claimed gurus and coaches just do it online or give ebooks to their clients, which I personally find not optimal. Back in the days it was just friends introducing their friend to hook him up with a girl, basically like a wing man, but I don’t see that as often these days.
/r/seduction23/03/26 11:15 AM
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No limiting beliefs in bettering yourself. Not “limiting beliefs in thinking there should be no castes in society.” This is what happens when you only get a catchphrase here and there, without digging deeper what it actually means. Just like the lingo “negging” for example, a lot of guys think it means to be a jerk to a woman or to throw an insult at her.
/r/seduction23/03/26 11:03 AM
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Just smile at her and say “hi, how are you?” That simple. You will see her again as you both frequent the same gym. The convo will gradually expand if you keep saying hi to each other. Next time you say hi then put another sentence to it. “What’s your name? I’m _____” then offer your hand so she can reciprocate. walk up to her and ask her if she will teach me how to have sex Yeah, no. I can safely say that you have no social skills. All that convo you imagine in your head probably comes from mov…
/r/seduction23/03/26 12:35 AM
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Sometimes some people literally need someone to lead and be there with them. Just like a kid needs their parents to go inside a swimming pool with them for the first time. It’s often called exposure therapy. It’s a baby-step process. Maybe after 2-3 times of the same process, you can slowly do it by yourself. Your “parents” or whoever guides you can watch you from the side, until you can independently do it yourself.
/r/seduction23/03/26 12:25 AM
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You reminded me of myself. I work in a fast pace environment, deal a lot with numbers, and practically can’t afford to have a mistake. So all that makes me a serious person at times. And I’m totally aware of that. But I’ve been cold-approaching women for years. Even tho it sounds similar with “cold sales”, there’s barely anything similar in details when it comes to cold approaching women. With the latter you gotta relax, tone it down a notch, and not everything needs to be taken seriously when i…
/r/seduction23/03/26 12:21 AM
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This is true for me. I remember way back in the days when I was still very naive and at my first job ever, I had this cute coworker venting out to me “I hate this place, everyone sleeps with everyone else!” And I’m like “whoah whoah how come I didn’t get the memo?” And she starts laughing maybe thinking that I’m too naive. I slowly learned that hookups happen everywhere and more common than I thought, they just don’t kiss and tell. Now there are some colleagues that I had slept with that still w…
/r/seduction18/03/26 11:43 AM
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Yeah man. Texting/not texting shouldn’t be considered a red flag or a deal breaker. Unless you do it in an extreme way (ie: not texting for weeks, or double/triple texting multiple times a day). But if she sees small things like this as a deal breaker, then lift your chin up and see that she’s neurotic, just consider you dodge a bullet. Hopefully she’s not that type. Good luck on your date!
/r/seduction17/03/26 03:12 PM
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Lemme tell you one of my pet peeves regarding seduction/relationship: Guys tend to try so hard to make everything goes well, when on the other hand I don’t see women fuss about what they should do or say prior to the date, at least not as many based on my observation. I mean posts like this are everywhere on reddit not just in this sub. To the point where if you think about it, texting or not texting prior to the date… does it really matter? To be fair, everyone would agree that what matters the…
/r/seduction17/03/26 02:44 PM
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If it works then it works. Don’t fix something that’s not broken. I see so many guys saying too much to try and impress the girl or something Well maybe it hasn’t clicked on them like it does on you. I would say if they find something that works they probably stick with that.
/r/seduction17/03/26 12:32 PM
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Glasses will help a lot.
/r/seduction17/03/26 12:45 AM
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Hmmm… deeper thrust, eh? Look, if things going well then what’s the need to say things just for the sake of saying them? Enjoy the silence. Enjoy the pause moment. Enjoy your “contemplating inside your head” even tho she’s laying next to you bare naked after sex. You don’t have to keep sugar-powdering her with cherry on top. Or say it with your finger, with your eyes, with the tip of your tongue exploring her skin. No need to say anything. Speaking of silence; I once had this girl in my car tryi…
/r/seduction17/03/26 12:38 AM
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Depends on the proximity. Attractive women in college or in a store? Probably less. Most random guys out there are practically bystanders. They watch but don’t do. They’re intimidated and scared. Even if they think about it, they overthink that their approach will get rejected. Can’t blame them, as they don’t know how to. But when it comes to specific areas like gala dinner, corporate events, that’s where guys try to outshine each other, they approach them all the time as if they wanna show off …
/r/seduction17/03/26 12:21 AM
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Yeah ditch him. Not worth it.
/r/seduction16/03/26 01:20 PM
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With 1st and 2nd date I usually avoid dinner or movie date. Just because sitting down for like an hour or more is not really efficient to get to know each other. But it depends on your location. If you’re by the sea then take her snorkeling. If by the mountain then take her mountain hiking. If none? Just take her to an amusement park or something. Anything that involves real activities, even tho it’s not physically hard, but can make you both being active and give you a lot of chances of physica…
/r/seduction16/03/26 01:19 PM
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If you’re close to him I’d say just tell him about it. Maybe there’s a chance that he got a little of self-awareness and that “jokes” he keeps pulling on you are the only ones he knows how to do it so he keeps doing it. The point is to make him aware of what he’s done to you, based on the assumption that he’s not. But… if you’re not really close and can ditch him right away then ditch him. In this world there’s a lot of people with better characters than his, so it’s not like he’s valuable gener…
/r/seduction16/03/26 01:15 PM
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Gender war is what happens when you zoom in. You focus on small, pedantic things and you get upset. Men say women treat them unfairly (ie: height is a preference while we can’t control our height). Women say men treat them unfairly (ie: high body count for women = slut, for men it’s being a chad) But once you zoom out you get a bigger picture; it’s not really about competition, it’s about collaboration. I even believe some people just purposely plan for our society to keep fighting against each …
/r/seduction15/03/26 01:30 PM
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Bar with 90% women? You sure that’s not a lesbian bar? LOL But seriously, thanks for the post. Field report is getting rarer these days. I’m glad you didn’t ask “why did I do wrong?” Sometimes the night just went on like that.
/r/seduction15/03/26 12:57 PM
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Confessing feeling is pretty common in Asia. It’s like their romance/relationship field is still stuck in the 70’s western era. But tbh I don’t really think that’s such thing as “ethical” in seduction field, as everyone has to set their own ethical rules. What comes as ethical to some may not be the case with others. For example I’m a type of guy who doesn’t see sleeping around with someone else’s wife or husband as a problem, but I’m genuinely surprised that many in this sub do. Or just like sl…
/r/seduction14/03/26 03:17 PM
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Start small. People who think that approaches are easy to do or think that it comes naturally with them usually don’t remember when they did it first time, or they started doing it at a very young age. Like maybe their parents are socially active so they’ve been exposed to meeting strangers by their parents since they were very young. But simple things like an approach can actually be broken down into steps and levels. So don’t get discouraged if you hear guys say “you can’t even talk to a girl?…
/r/seduction13/03/26 11:11 PM
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8 months of long distance? Have you both ever met? That sounds like something you need to get out of. Yes there are few long distance relationships that work, but the probability is slim. Now regarding your question: like anything else, it depends on the context. Would you be eager to say “I like you” because you want her to reciprocate and say it back? Now that’s needy and desperate. Or would you like to say “I like you” because she did something nice for you or you gave her a compliment becaus…
/r/seduction13/03/26 11:38 AM
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A PUA that opens with “you look cute” or “you look beautiful” is a mediocre one. He shouldn’t even be calling himself a PUA. Come up with something more creative. Imagine repeating the same cheesy line, even if I did that I would throw up as I feel like a broken record.
/r/seduction11/03/26 11:59 AM
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His name is Vladislav Luilkov. Just look it up there’s lots of articles about him (maybe in Russian or Ghana/Akan language). Here’s 1 video I found, nothing about seduction tho. Or at least his approach in a few seconds looks far from impressive: https://youtube.com/shorts/Vm6HkTBc-Vg?si=D_3KN0GFXp4Ww_Zw
/r/seduction11/03/26 01:13 AM
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Wait a minute. Now that changes everything. I thought you were talking about women in general. It’s a common knowledge that some comics purposely plant their friends in the audience to do “crowd work” (aka roasting them) because friends are much easier to laugh with you or at your jokes, even if your jokes suck lol. Unlike strangers, friends put their guards down for you. But I’m confused; why you worried about all this? Any particular woman friend you’d like to hit on? I still don’t get it. If …
/r/seduction11/03/26 01:05 AM
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Mind showing me the clips? I suspect it has nothing to do being offensive. Most typical problem that comics have is delivery. Did you build it up with a not-too-fast pace? Did you warm up the audience? I think there’s an obvious reason why women love drama and thrillers. It’s like they get excited when they’re climbing up on a rollercoaster. Even when they’re aware there’s a punchline waiting in the corner just like they see the rollercoaster starts dropping fast, they still scream with joy. Sam…
/r/seduction11/03/26 12:49 AM
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I could be wrong, but in my own experience I see more women say this than men. Tbh that’s not really a good behavior as you’ve mentioned. Why? Because it’s insincere to say the least, and manipulative at most. If you go to some kind of personal development or modeling classes, they always cover this topic. Whenever people sincerely give you a compliment, you always say ”thanks” or ”thank you.” That’s it, no more or no less. It shows that you are confident, you can be and should be proud of yours…
/r/seduction11/03/26 12:39 AM
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What’s the root of the cause of being needy? Genuinely curious.
/r/seduction10/03/26 12:32 PM
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I also wished her for Woman’s Day and she replied confidently (“I celebrate that every day”), which felt playful but didn’t really move the conversation forward. You sound so awkward and boring that you brought up Woman’s Day where even most women don’t even remember the day. If you feel you carry the conversation that means the other person doesn’t reciprocate, meaning she’s not interested.
/r/seduction10/03/26 11:34 AM
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Make her talk more, make her qualify herself instead.
/r/seduction10/03/26 11:06 AM
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Imagine a guy sexting “hey… wanna fuck?” or “can’t wait to lick what you hide down there.” Yeah there are guys who think it works because another guy says so. Could it work? Sure. It could work if the girl on the other end is also super horny and just wanting to be pounded hard right here right now. But how often does that really happen? Maybe less than 1% of all sexting interactions. The problem with the kinda sext that I wrote above is not the sentence itself. But there is a process to get the…
/r/seduction08/03/26 10:42 PM
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Rejection is not as bad as most people think. I even think it’s kinda similar to a phobia, where the fear is exaggerated in our mind but when that actually happens you barely feel anything. You didn’t sweat, didn’t cry, and thought of yourself “that’s it? This is what rejection feels like? Gimme dozens more then!”
/r/seduction08/03/26 10:16 PM
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How often does it happen, tho?
/r/seduction08/03/26 02:04 PM
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I’m not big into Indicators of Interest (IoI’s), at least the interpretation of them. To me they are overrated. How many times I seen in this sub guys think that the woman smiling and responding positively interpreted as IoI’s? Yes because most humans including women just try to be nice and polite toward strangers, not necessarily interested or attracted to them. For guys who are just beginners, all non-negative signs are likely interpreted as interests. I think the real IoI’s or even the real I…
/r/seduction08/03/26 02:03 PM
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Good job! I still remember the feeling when I did my first cold approach. What you described exactly what I felt: The proud feeling because I got out of my comfort zone, because I ignored the voice in my head that begged me to stay in my comfort zone. Believe me, no matter how comfortable my comfort zone was at the time, I just got sick and tired staying in there. Like I need to see my life being better, no change is the absolute worst. I didn’t even really care when she declined. I was just ecs…
/r/seduction07/03/26 04:03 AM
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It’s about EMOTION. You can talk about movies and books but if you talk about them focusing on how it makes you feel, or how it relates to your personal experiences in life, then they will also feel connected. On the other hand you can talk about cultures and their differences, but if the way you talk about them is like talking about surveys on cultures, datas, numbers, then yeah it’d be useless.
/r/seduction07/03/26 03:25 AM
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but if I’m chilling and enjoying myself I get approached or women put themselves in close proximity. Probably this one. This reminds me of a post the other day about the poster said all women who liked him are cat lovers. I call it the paradox of women: If you show them your love and so much affection they will stay away from you or even get turned off if you enjoy and focus on yourself they will come closer to you and try to get your attention Idk if they wanna treat men like cats, or they beha…
/r/seduction07/03/26 03:20 AM
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Casually ask her out. Doesn’t have to be a date. Maybe just a brunch, grocery shopping, a coffee, a movie, heck even one time I did ask my colleague to do a dry cleaning with me. We ended up going out multiple times. The point is to spend more time together, especially outside work. Don’t be afraid of a rejection. If she said no then fine no biggie. Just brush it off. Remember, you didn’t ask her for a date. So it’s not like you’re ruining your relationship with her because of that.
/r/seduction04/03/26 09:43 PM
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Yes you’re doing enough, even maybe a bit too much. I can imagine going out at night 2-4 times a week just to look for a hookup. You’re right far more of them only show up on weekend, they know where the crowds are. But they’re basically everywhere, mate. I had done night game for a few years just like you until I got bored and thought of changing my game into day game. More relaxing, slow pace, less costly, no alcohol and pukes. I approach them out in the street, in a mall, in a grocery store, …
/r/seduction04/03/26 09:37 PM
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where should I go from here By being physical like you almost did multiple times lol. But seriously, if you want to replace him then you need to do what he’s done with her ie: sex. Even doing that won’t guarantee it but at least gives you a bigger chance. There’s a reason why it’s called intimacy. Friends don’t typically have sex with each other. Once you do it you’re more than friends. But on the other hand be careful with her current situation. There are some people who can’t let go of the rel…
/r/seduction03/03/26 09:58 AM
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It means that you shouldn’t take her seriously. I learned a lot from my interactions with my sister. She always throws insults and mocks regularly at me ever since we were kids. So I’m used to it. She does that either to look for my attention or to make me mad. But it’s mutual tho. I do playful banter at her to the point where at times she almost cries or feels like what she does bouncing back at her (trying to make me mad ends up by her getting mad).
/r/seduction02/03/26 04:17 PM
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Warm up first. It’s very important that before you approach a stranger girl (cold approach) or go out with her, that she’s not one of the first people you interact that day. I see guys stay in the house all day long to prepare for his date in the evening. Then he’s surprised why things look bland. Yea because he doesn’t warm up and calibrate. He hasn’t talked to people prior to that point. Conversations are similar to sports you gotta warm up. By the time you talk to her you’re already talkative…
/r/seduction02/03/26 01:15 PM
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I’d say time for you to break rapport.
/r/seduction01/03/26 03:22 AM
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I personally believe there’s no such thing as your “true self”. Let’s go back to my outfit analogy. Our personality traits are like our outfit. That’s the one we wear all the time. People know us by the “outfit” that we wear. If one’s “outfit” is called short-fused for example, then every time he gets mad people know that he’s like that. He wears that short-fused “outfit” all his life. The problem is, that no one told us that we can choose what kind of “outfits” we want to wear. We think that th…
/r/seduction01/03/26 03:13 AM
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You’re welcome. No I don’t see you starting a debate, nor I see myself doing one. I guess everything can be seen from different lenses even tho we are looking at the same thing.
/r/seduction28/02/26 01:49 PM
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Think of yourself as fluid, not rigid. If you think you could become the best version of yourself, then do it. I think I could have more success if I spoke a little slower, and lowered my pitch, but NATURALLY I don’t. See, that’s where you got trapped by thinking that what you are now is natural. No it’s not. What we are has been molded for years by our surroundings (friends, upbringing, parents, etc). We thought it was natural because it’s molded very slowly. This is why method acting is used s…
/r/seduction28/02/26 01:35 PM
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There’s a lot of “(all) men are bad” vs “(all) women are bad” narratives out there. But mostly online. I think one of the reasons there’s a stigma or even a clash because we don’t understand each other. We think women think like we do, but they don’t. And vice versa. Just because they think and behave differently doesn’t mean it’s necessarily bad. I believe men and women should work together, not be against each other.
/r/seduction27/02/26 01:16 PM
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I think I can answer or share some of my POV’s on your topics: Regarding selflessness and reciprocation. I think most mainstream christian teachings are about love your neighbors as you love yourself. God loves everyone in the world, but He tells us to love our neighbors, meaning the ones closest to us. We don’t have capacity to love everyone in the world like God does. This is why “inner circle” is important. The bible recognizes the importance of inner circle. Either it’s family members, neigh…
/r/seduction27/02/26 01:04 PM
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If she requests a follow then wait till she opens up a convo, not your job anyway. Give the burden to her.
/r/seduction25/02/26 01:35 PM
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This right here. The “match your energy” principle. Imagine you wrote long sentences in your text and she just replied “good” or “ok”.
/r/seduction25/02/26 01:32 PM
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the right spot is hard for me to identify have you tried approaching a stranger, let’s say a man? I’m talking about you asking him for a direction, or he happens to be a guest in your house party. So you just wanna be polite and befriend him. Obviously not to hit on him. I wanna know if you’re just an overthinking guy or actually have social skill issues (even tho most of the time those 2 are overlapped). The right spot is NOT hard to identify. Why it seems hard because some guys overanalyze eve…
/r/seduction25/02/26 02:00 AM
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Here’s my unpopular take: “I have a bf” is an overused line that girls throw all the time it’s like they even say it in their dreams lol. I hold dearly to what Ross Jeffreys often says: Don’t really listen to what women say, but pay attention to what they respond to. For example: How many times you heard women say “I don’t know what I want for dinner” but once you offer to take her to some places she refuses. That means she KNOWS what she wants, or at least what she doesn’t want, but she’s just …
/r/seduction24/02/26 12:28 PM
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I’ve gone out with friends and I’m just stuck almost babying them Yea been there done that. A wingman is more than just a friend. He gotta be on the same page with you, bonus point if he almost “can read your mind” like if you wanna approach then he assists so you can do a layup, or vice versa. Like most women, most guys have no idea how to approach a stranger, from open to close. Let alone helping someone else do it.
/r/seduction23/02/26 04:11 PM
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I’d say most seduction strats are: 60% good social skills + 30% looks/appearance + 10% techniques or dating knowledges. If you don’t have a good social skill to begin with, I’d suggest you find a public speaking tutor (not online, but local) or similar types. They can teach you how to be a good conversationalist, even to a stranger or groups of stranger. If you also have problems with looks, this one is different; yes you can find online tutorial. Start learning your body type, your facial/hair …
/r/seduction15/02/26 01:31 PM
2

You gotta find out why you feel rejected. We guys can’t accept a bitter reality that she chose someone else over us. But the problem is; when she talks to us, we think that she chooses us. But that thinking is incorrect. The talking phase is like people walking around in a flea market. They talk to sellers, asking them what they sell or how much their product is. Doesn’t mean they’ve decided to buy. Yes they’re exploring and thinking of buying, but until that happens they can always walk away. I…
/r/seduction15/02/26 01:09 PM
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No. You’re automatically pre-selected, it increases your perceived value. People (especially women) want what others want. I remember reading an old article of how The Beatles got famous. Their video clips always show how they were physically chased by girls (even tho at the time they weren’t famous yet). It’s a brilliant marketing strategy. Now most boybands just copy and paste it that becomes a generic theme in every music clip. Brands also release limited edition products, or create a long li…
/r/seduction15/02/26 04:46 AM
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Just go, man. Valentine’s day has same thing with other holidays like New Year’s eve where people, especially women, are more prone to sexual and romantic emotions. The situation is in your favor.
/r/seduction14/02/26 02:04 PM
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You’re swimming against the stream, bud. This is why some older people especially guys lie on their age on OLD’s to expand the matches. The algorithm just gets rid of a lot of potential just because of age factor. Imagine in an actual bar or pub, someone telling you not to talk to a new girl you meet because of 10-15 years difference. I believe OLD’s are mainly designed to target 20-30’s market, they’re not in your favor once you reach certain age. Like others said, try cold approach in real lif…
/r/seduction12/02/26 01:31 PM
1

However after the 2 month “relationship” and the ONS I lost all motivation. Yea bro, you skipped the whole 2 months with this simple sentence and you want us to guess what happened during this time period. This is the soundtrack for your post.
/r/seduction11/02/26 12:34 AM
2

Asking and answering questions are just some ways to converse. You can always share what you did “last weekend”, “last night”. Sometimes even unprompted. I saw this pattern like every Monday when I started doing my professional work. I observed them like I was some kinda alien, “oh this is how humans interact.” Like every Monday my colleagues tell each other what they did on the weekend. Bonus point if it is something spectacular or hilarious. But if not that’s okay too. They just shared which r…
/r/seduction11/02/26 12:18 AM
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Her reaction to him is called Indicators of Interest (IoI’s) in PUA world. You can search this lingo in this sub. Find out what triggers the IoI’s. He must’ve done or said things that you’re not doing that made her reciprocate well toward him. But to be fair, to answer your question, no one knows but him. None of us here watched their interactions. Or you could observe them and start taking notes.
/r/seduction11/02/26 12:06 AM
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“10% every month sounds good to you? 9 months from now I’d know you damn well.”
/r/seduction09/02/26 06:46 PM
8

Not big into “chasing/pursuing”. Once you have that kinda mindset, that means you can be easily slipped into putting her on a pedestal; I mean in your mind she’s the prize, right? Instead of chasing, shift your mind into “escalation” method. Most stuff we do in life is basically either to escalate or de-escalate. You’re doing homework? That’s an escalation. You’re ordering food? That’s an escalation. You make a bit push toward what you want to happen. But escalation like I often say in this sub …
/r/seduction09/02/26 06:14 PM
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Churches. Many girls I’ve slept with are typically active church goers. It’s like they love the thrills of doing something forbidden. The more they’re told to not do it, the more they wanna do it. Just don’t kiss and tell.
/r/seduction09/02/26 03:33 AM
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You said you’re very shy and inexperienced yet you think you can get a date when you visit a new country if strangers give you tips. Make it make sense. We’re talking about skills here. Say you don’t know how to ride a bike, do you think you can do it if you switch the venue?
/r/seduction09/02/26 03:29 AM
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You gotta pay real attention when you make a convo with anyone, not just women. The reason guys are clueless is basically they don’t listen. If a woman says something like “oh I love the cheese burger at Jo Momma’s restaurant” then there are few valuable infos in that simple sentence: Cheese burger Jo momma’s restaurant You can make the convo flowing naturally when you listen: Ask her why you like the cheese burger there. What makes it different than other cheese burgers When was the last time s…
/r/seduction08/02/26 05:22 PM
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Small talks and casual flirting happen anywhere, from a gym to an office. But intimate convos and the “deeds” are usually done outside those settings. Before you get to that phase you gotta make sure that she’s more than willing to entertain the idea of going out with you (as women who already went out with guys are not even 100% warranted to be intimate afterwards). Yes, there are phases or processes like in any other things in life. Just a recent example: My colleague and I had bantered and pl…
/r/seduction08/02/26 05:12 PM
1

Comment on what she drinks or what she wears. Women put a lot of effort just to choose their dress. So compliment them on their efforts; not their beauty. They don’t put efforts on the latter it’s their parents genetics. Say something like “your drink looks very appealing. Does it really taste as good?” Ask her what it’s called. Then order another drink that she might have in mind (like her 2nd fav beside what she’s having now). When you get it then tell her to take a sip and jokingly say lemme …
/r/seduction07/02/26 02:35 PM
1

I’d say if you’re a beginner it’s always good to use a script. At least your accomplishment is to be able to approach and start a convo. Forget about getting her number let alone a date. But yeah I hate “stacking”; it all feels bland to me so I can’t imagine if my counterpart feels the same or even worse. Maybe use it just as a rough draft, not as a sticky point. But free-style it and see where it goes is my typical approach.
/r/seduction07/02/26 02:21 PM
1

I just watched his other vids to see his methods in a fair light. They’re surprisingly somewhat better than #4, even tho he used the same exact script (my russia is bad, what city you from, does it have electricity and hot water, yadda yadda yadda). Good thing is he’s no longer using “I will tell you a secret” in other vides. Just simply said I think you’re pretty. I wouldn’t use that compliment but it’s better than “I’ll tell you a secret.” I’m not big into using google translate to approach. I…
/r/seduction07/02/26 02:17 PM
1

I tried to put myself in his shoes. I think this is what happens when you rely too much on a script (what to say). So he’s not ready to get a “no” feedback when he did the “I will tell you a secret” sthick. He kept pushing it and the “I think you’re pretty” as a punchline was really a bummer. All girls know they’re pretty. Even fugly ones think they’re pretty. A secret should be fascinating, or at least alluring. If I were her I’d be like “that’s not a secret. I know I’m pretty. All my friends k…
/r/seduction07/02/26 01:19 PM
4

Gold standard by who? Autistic guys who can’t read hints and cues? Or is this some kind of PUA parody? I wish the latter. Heard his name before. But idk if this was his methods. If I were him I wouldn’t even post this vid online.
/r/seduction07/02/26 01:03 PM
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That’s just an embarrassment. The language barrier could be helpful in some cases, but in this video the russian girl barely understands half of what he’s saying. And in the end: Him: tell you what, I will tell you a secret Her: No Him: would you like to hear a secret? Her: No Him: I will tell you anyway, I think you’re pretty Her: Zhanks [heavy russian accent] Him: another time, you and I let’s get a coffee would you like that? Her: No no no no WTF is this? Have you watched Karl Pilkington in a…
/r/seduction07/02/26 12:55 PM
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As a non religious person I’d say go join a church. They usually have activities and you could meet new people there. Escalation can be found in every romcom movie there’s plenty of them. But not many guys are aware of it. You can always search “escalation” or “how to escalate” in this sub lots of helpful tips.
/r/seduction07/02/26 12:32 PM
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I fucked a young pastor’s wife. Met online. Didn’t even know she was married. I didn’t suspect it because she looked pretty young (29-30 years old), beautiful face, hot body. Easy 8 on face and body. We did it so many times, until she told me to pick her up in a parking lot nearby her house. But I parked much closer and I saw a guy giving a goodbye kiss to her right in front of the house. I confronted her right away in the car. Then she started crying and admitted that she’s married with him and…
/r/seduction06/02/26 01:36 PM
2

Yeah salad sounds better. You can even ask her what’s on his menu that she thinks she can digest well. That’s one idea of a convo. The bottom line is there’s gotta be a way to expand the time and the convo than just saying hi and bye in a min. If you can’t find it then you’re going nowhere.
/r/seduction05/02/26 07:12 PM
2

Escalation is like dancing; it takes two to tango. The purpose is once you escalate (small), then she needs to reciprocate. If she doesn’t then stop. If I were you I’d ask her to try the food offered by your restaurant. Tell her something like she won’t be disappointed as you’ll make it yourself. If she said she’d give it a try or she’s asking jokingly if you could give her a good deal (price wise), then take it as a good sign. Doesn’t mean she’s attracted to you, but it implies next time she re…
/r/seduction05/02/26 01:59 PM
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College is a very appropriate place to sharpen your social skills. Lots of students, you won’t be seen weird if you approach them as you’re one of them. The thing about your case and thousand similar ones, is that you gotta be honest with yourself: do an honest assessment on yourself. From 0 to 10, how decent are your social skills? Look at your social circles, are they big? How many girls are in your circles? Chopped guys in college dating baddies because they got excellent social skills. They …
/r/seduction03/02/26 12:40 PM
1

Nobody knows what’s in her head except hers, not even us random redditors here. If I were you I’d just ask her out, not in dating situation obviously. Something small like grab some coffee or lunch. See her reactions. If she likes you she will make time to make it happen. Pretty common, especially girls who have a bf or married. They always try to be very subtle, just in case someone they know sees something they do. Don’t ask me how I know. So don’t take her sudden change of behavior personally…
/r/seduction03/02/26 02:47 AM
2

Before we left she asked if I was free the next day. Yea this type of question could be a test too from women. They wanna see if you’re always available for them. Most guys think “oh if I can show her that I’m always available for her then she will be more attracted to me.” Wrong. In her eyes the tension and the attraction is slowly fading. You’re becoming predictable, so no sparks. You don’t lead her, you can’t say no to her. The “game” is just too easy for her that it’s now boring.
/r/seduction02/02/26 01:30 PM
2

10% just sounds a hell of a lot better than 1%, don’t you think? Yes if the bar is that low. But it’s not supposed to be that low. I don’t believe cold approach as in a selling term like you gotta sell yourself and convince women that you’re a good enough “product”. But I believe any approaches and any relationships can be seen as an investment, either it’s money, time, or your energy. So when your investment gives you only 1-10% positive results, then you gotta be honest to yourself: unlike wha…
/r/seduction02/02/26 01:19 PM
1

It might be useful until you see her in person. Then whenever she says something you tell her to wait so you can ask your AI on how to reply.
/r/seduction02/02/26 01:13 PM
3

Don’t attempt to act like you’re very mature or at her level, age-wise. Let her come to you. Most cougars I know see themselves as slick sex-adventurous predators and their targets as preys. The more innocent/naive you look and sound, the better the chance.
/r/seduction31/01/26 08:16 PM
2

That’s your first mistake. Imagine the role is reversed: a guy keeps sending msgs to a woman and keeps unsending them. What do you think a woman would do? She will clearly set her boundaries. She knows her time is valuable, doesn’t have time for that shit.
/r/seduction31/01/26 08:06 PM
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Unfollow or block her. Not worth it. It’s a childish game. You’re dealing with at least an immature girl, or the most a psycho.
/r/seduction31/01/26 03:27 PM
5

I disagree with you. I’ve dated some liberal women to conclude they also want the same things what conservative women want, at least at the baseline level. But I think malevolence is a strong word. You don’t have to be an asshole or an evil guy to attract women. Just be not caring, not fazed. Just be grounded on reality. Because being benevolent is only good within your inner circle (family members, best friends). In reality benevolence needs to be earned. Not everyone can be in your inner circl…
/r/seduction31/01/26 03:05 PM
2

Not “being mean on purpose.” The common mistake guys do is trying to impress a woman. Because of this, he will try to be nice, be gentle, be soft, be agreeable, be polite. He’s trying to sell “a product” which is himself. But instead of trying to impress, you should try to express yourself. Let your intrusive thoughts get actually verbalized from your pie hole. Don’t be afraid to say what you have in mind. “NO” is a powerful word that can pull people in instead of pushing them away. Sounds count…
/r/seduction31/01/26 02:50 PM
1

To the contrary, personality traits like introvert and extrovert are not set in stone. I agree with your last part; I’m an introverted person myself. Whenever I hang out with people it just drains me. My battery dies quickly. While I was told extroverted ones absorb the energy from the interaction. Again, just because you don’t like it or you’re that type of person, doesn’t mean you can’t try. Give it a try first. See what you don’t really like from social gatherings, AND see what you kinda like…
/r/seduction30/01/26 06:51 PM
5

Rapport is basically a connection. Surprisingly people can build a rapport real quick with a stranger. I usually open up with something that she wears or what she does and comment on it. So we both have something in common. Ie: she’s wearing a baby blue dress. I’d say something like “i really like your choice of color!” Then we’d talk about where she bought it from or why she likes that particular blue. This is just a first step. There’s something else on the opposite called “breaking rapport.” …
/r/seduction30/01/26 06:43 PM
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No rapport building. The convos are all basic stuff, interview-style questions. But I gave you credit for doing it. You’re ahead of majority of guys out there.
/r/seduction30/01/26 02:01 AM
1

IMO it’s borderline manipulative. He was just being a jerk to her. He dared to say no or even told her that she’s mid at best. But afaik, that’s all he did to her in front of me. I believe he did other things outside work that finally got her hooked. What’s crazy was he worked in the same dept with her fiancee but because of him they broke up.
/r/seduction30/01/26 01:57 AM
1

I’ve brought up in this sub about my friend. He’s short, non caucasian, 4-5 out of 10, kinda resemble Kevin Hart. In our inner circle we even call him Kevin hart lol. But he fucks women left and right. One thing I notice is he doesn’t have a filter in his mouth, he just says whatever comes up in his mind. He’s between being witty and insulting. But he dgaf. Last chick he did was our coworker, she’s like peak Mila Kunis. I high-fived him since I failed doing it lol.
/r/seduction28/01/26 06:05 PM
5

When you feel that way with one particular girl it’s usually because you’ve invested so much in her. Your brain is tricking you to always remember her.
/r/seduction28/01/26 05:56 PM
1

If you feel it’s too soon then it’s too soon. I usually don’t introduce my dates to family or friends until they do it first. How does introducing her to your friends make her stay with you? To show her that you’re serious?
/r/seduction28/01/26 05:53 PM
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Did she introduce you to her friends/family yet? Did you bring up the idea of introducing her to your friends? The “match her energy” falls into this issue.
/r/seduction28/01/26 01:56 PM
2

Positive reactions are not always reciprocation. Some people just try to be nice/polite. This is why they set the time limit, like yeah I’m just gonna be nice for 2-3 mins then bounce.
/r/seduction26/01/26 11:30 PM
5

From doing a lot of daygames, this is what I’ve learned about building rapports: If you’re a beginner, it’d be much safer to do an indirect approach. What I mean by this instead of hitting her with “hey you look stunning/gorgeous, what’s your name?”, you can open with something like “wow, you just picked Nescafe Coffee. That’s my go to, too. You have a great taste!” It’s not about her. It’s not about you hitting on her. It’s about a genuine conversation between 2 strangers talking about things t…
/r/seduction25/01/26 06:16 PM
8

It’s not like it’s a hidden knowledge or something. Women do this for ages. Even the women in my social circles whom I rate average physical and face-wise have 2-3 men that they deliberately put in their orbits. Seduction is basically women’s inherent skills. Look at the fables and mythologies and stories in religions: from adam and eve, samson and delila, to princesses in Disney’s. We men just copy and paste and follow in their footsteps. The only difference is women tend to say one thing and a…
/r/seduction25/01/26 05:16 PM
2

I’ve learned a lot from og PUA’s. Back then there was barely any social media and dating apps. Nowadays guys just wanna spam messaging online and see which ones take the bait. But to be fair, if you tell people to do an investment where the success has a low rate, who wanna do it? It’s a logical way to think that instead of spending hours out there, just do 10-15 mins spam messages to dozens of girls online. The number of success rate might be the same anyway. Save time and energy.
/r/seduction25/01/26 02:46 PM
8

You’re not a coward. You just have no idea how to do it. It’s blank in your head. If I told you to fly a plane and you freeze, does it mean you’re a coward? Guys who have no problem talking to girls doesn’t mean they’re brave, it’s because they do it all the time. Maybe because they’ve been surrounded by their sisters all their life. Maybe they bloom faster than most guys. I have no problem in that department. Not because I’m brave. But because I’m used to talk to random people since I was a kid…
/r/seduction25/01/26 04:53 AM
3

No matter how cooked you might be, you’ve done your part. If she reaches out to you then maybe there’s hope. If not then you learned your lesson. Just don’t double down. You’ve already asked her out. Don’t ask again like a beggar. Respect yourself.
/r/seduction25/01/26 04:31 AM
3

It’s not the movie, even tho it’s not the best type of date. it’s your escalation that seems kinda throw her off. I mean maybe she was genuinely surprised that you’re asking her out. Then you went in for a hug, even tho she looked around the area and mentioned she has a bf. She either doesn’t want anyone she knows, or her bf, sees it. Or the whole situation just feels awkward to her. You could flip the table when she said “maybe this weekend” or “I let you know.” Just say something like “nah, I …
/r/seduction25/01/26 04:23 AM
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Should have I kissed her instead of saying goodbye? Noobs lol. But seriously if she gives you puppy eyes before saying goodbye that’s like an invitation to at least hug and give her a kiss. She might as well give in by thinking that if you bond with her that you could be hers long term (happened to me in the past we ended up being together for a year, sex was just too good). Most women always aim for long term. I don’t make it a big deal like it’s a red flag. That’s their ideal. They try to conv…
/r/seduction24/01/26 06:37 PM
3

Got more flakes from OLD. Idk if they’re there for validation but idgaf. What I’ve learned is typically the more enthusiastic I am, the less interested they are. It’s the “opposite attracts” kinda thing. Not saying you should be doing oneliner or one word only to reply. Just don’t be too eager, it could come across as desperate. This is why I like daygame or even approach the ones in my social circles much better. Not only you can tell their body language and their voice tone whether they’re ser…
/r/seduction23/01/26 03:19 PM
1

If you ask this kinda question, I can safely guess that you’re a serious person. Be less serious and more playful. 80-90% of my interaction with women are just playful banter, even if they throw a shit test. I even said to one the other day “If I always take you seriously, that means I’m not interested in you.”
/r/seduction23/01/26 02:02 AM
1

You gotta love yourself man. Start by going to the gym and lose some weight if that’s also your issue. Upgrade your wardrobe and your hairstyle. All the things that you can change, unlike your height. The problem with desperation is that it oozes. People can tell you’re insecure then they just wanna stay away from you. Then once you realize that, you feel worse and become more desperate. It creates an infinite loop where you get trapped, so you gotta get out of there. Again, start by loving and …
/r/seduction23/01/26 01:57 AM
5

Try recording your voice and listening to it. I used to be like you until someone told me I sound boring. Then she told me to help me better I could record my voice while reading a short story. My situation at the time was I was too self-conscious of how mine sounds so I tried hard to “guard” it, making it becomes monotonous. But when I watch other people who don’t have a problem, I see that they don’t give a f on how their voice sounds like. But ironically it comes out as more expressive and th…
/r/seduction20/01/26 12:55 PM
1

Don’t think of it as a formal technique that you need to apply in certain situations. But think of it as part of the regular conversation you have with most girls. So when you ask “when?” I’m like idk all the time? I hug my dates all the time even in the first time go out. Walking with her? I have her fingers in between mine. Waiting for our coffee being made? I hug her from behind or wrap my arms around her waist.
/r/seduction20/01/26 12:44 PM
3

It depends on your personality and the dynamics you have with her. Are you extroverted/introverted? Have you gone out with her? Is she your date or just friends? If you’re introverted the common mistake is not making a move at all. Flirting is okay and encouraged to avoid the friend-zone trap. But make sure you start small or subtle. On the other hand extroverted guys have the tendencies of coming in too strong. Seen too many guys already start talking about their dicks or her tits/pussy or how …
/r/seduction20/01/26 12:35 PM
2

They’re so expert that many of them end up with abusers, cheaters, violent criminals, and low-life thugs. Then they’ll wonder why their men treat them badly and complain that all men are the same.
/r/seduction19/01/26 04:12 AM
2

In my experiences, I always give them rooms to respond and invest as well. I don’t wanna be the only one who always texts first. I don’t wanna be the only one who talks more, let them talk more. I also ask them to do me a favor, like accompanying me to go somewhere or helping me do some errands (even tho I honestly can do it myself). Investments could come in many ways, not just money. All starts from small things. That reminds of the “push/pull” method in seduction game. It operates based on th…
/r/seduction17/01/26 06:42 PM
1

girls have lost their social skills. It takes 2 to tango. If you can’t gain her attention in the first place, maybe whatever she sees on her phone screen or listens on her earbuds is more interesting than you. Realistically speaking, unless you’re physically super attractive then you need to pull some skills to catch her attention. Let’s say you’re only a 6 or a 7. Then a 4 girl comes to you and starts asking you questions. How would you feel about that? There’s obviously not even an initial int…
/r/seduction17/01/26 06:22 PM
1

While I’ve been paying on all dates cause I’ve been inviting and as a man should do. I have no issues with it. There are so many problems with these statements idk where to start. But here’s my take: Like you, I have no issues at all paying things. Last girl I had sex with asked me to get her a new iphone. I simply told her “if you were my wife I could buy you the cellphone without even thinking about it.” Then she said “buy me 1 then…” I replied “but you’re not my wife.” The problem is not whet…
/r/seduction17/01/26 06:02 PM
3

Lower your goals/expectations. There’s no such bad nights if you really enjoy talking to random strangers. Share us your method of approach, maybe some of us can help you. Sometimes I see guys coming in too strong when doing a cold approach. Like already asking for a number while all the signs she’s sent are barely any interests. Idk if that’s the case with you.
/r/seduction17/01/26 05:45 PM
2

The most common problem I see is guys tend to (want) to talk more than girls. Which is kinda counterproductive. It could come across as selling it too hard, or not being able to listen to her. Yes talking is an investment, so you need to purposely let her talk her more than you so subconsciously she’s investing more in the interaction, or in a potential relationship. I’ve brought up here a while ago about ”elicitation” , google it if you want more info. But basically instead of doing some mundan…
/r/seduction17/01/26 05:32 PM
1

You said you don’t give a damn about that girl but the post above sounds like you analyzed her like National Geographic analyzed a rare creature. So what if she reacted certain ways if you say or do something to her? If I don’t care about the girl, I wouldn’t care if she purposely let herself got hit by a car to make me feel guilty. Not caring is not caring. I wouldn’t care either if she acts certain ways in the group. It sounds like you’re easily manipulated.
/r/seduction26/12/25 01:35 PM
1

From your previous posts you don’t seem to get it; it’s never about the place by itself. There’s a lot of contributing factors in the game. It could be a bummer on the beach if the girl you’re approaching is not receptive enough, or you could hit a jackpot in the busiest street in the world like in Shibuya Crossing Tokyo if the girl is already initially attracted to you just by your appearance and opening. I never get the mindset of “ima move to some certain places to get better luck” as if girl…
/r/seduction25/12/25 01:27 AM
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Nah, you got it wrong. That’s why I said the keyword “honest” in my comment above. Guys who think that being nice to girls will eventually make them reciprocate are pretty much on the other side of the same coin with guys who think being a jerk or a douche will make girls sleep with them. It’s NOT about doing something in order to get a girl like us back.
/r/seduction19/12/25 01:50 AM
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It’s not necessarily “negative” per se. The relationship’s dynamics appear because there’s tension. And tension comes from polarity. She says yes, you say no. Or the other way around. Just don’t be agreeable 100% or being a nice guy as if you’re asking for her approval/validation. Just be honest on what she says or does. If you don’t like it or don’t agree then say it. Just yesterday my colleague at work told me to touch her hand because she just came from outside where it was minus temp. I just…
/r/seduction16/12/25 06:09 PM
2

Communication is key here. Your guy friends ideally would think that you liked her, but you still need to let them know before hand. Another thing is you brought her to your male group what you think is gonna happen? Typically what happens is the guys swarm the girl (if she’s attractive) like bees do a flower. That’s a typical mistake guys do. They put her on pedestal in their group like there’s no tomorrow. It may be obvious to her that Mark and you trying to do a mating dance in front of her.
/r/seduction16/12/25 05:59 PM
1

Well if you’re in relationship, you will have less time to work as you need more time invested in it, regardless it’s with her or anyone else. But nevertheless, sounds like she’s a fun and outgoing person. She probably gave you a hint that you and her should go out and spend time together. She may or may not want a serious relationship, but you’ve already been considering it and its negative impact. She sounds flexible and you sound rigid. I’ve seen so many times in couples where the woman just …
/r/seduction14/12/25 08:18 PM
5

What do you want from her? You said if you got into a relationship with her she will make you work less which you don’t want. So I take it you don’t want to be with her? If you don’t wanna be with her then why all she said to you matters at this point?
/r/seduction14/12/25 05:17 PM
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Down the road you’ll become more picky and selective, and that’s not a problem at all. That’s how high quality women have done all the time. Most of guys’ approaches (methods and techniques) are basically inspired by women’s, anyway.
/r/seduction14/12/25 02:49 PM
2

Why would you tell someone else, let alone your friend, to set a date for you? Right after you left and had your phone back, you didn’t ask him to give you her number? Imagine her pov “this dude told his friend to set a date with me, why can’t he do it himself? Does he think that he needs someone as his representative to talk to me?”
/r/seduction13/12/25 11:29 PM
2

but the truth is I really like this one a lot You’ve done your part by texting her. Let her do hers. Yes I know, the longer it takes the more you’re convinced that she’s losing interest. But that’s the beauty; it takes two to tango. Nothing else you can do, texting her again would just make it worse.
/r/seduction13/12/25 11:17 PM
2

Secret Society.
/r/seduction13/12/25 12:48 AM
3

I’d just first text her to check on her if she got home. See her reply if she sounds enthusiastic, then tell her how you felt about the date to eventually ask her for 2nd date. But if she just replied shortly like “I’m home thanks” then I’d move on.
/r/seduction13/12/25 12:35 AM
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I wouldn’t escalate to the point that you obviously want her to go back to your place, since she said she doesn’t meet people at their place. I mean, yea it’s possible. But being too eager will usually be counterproductive. I’d just play it cool. See if she really looks like her pics first of all. Have an “extra picky” attitude that you see yourself as high value, not some desperate man trying to get laid on the first meetup.
/r/seduction13/12/25 12:27 AM
2

Be honest to yourself: What do you need to text her for? To make her soft rejection more bearable to you? To tell her that you enjoyed the night with her? To ask her for second date?
/r/seduction13/12/25 12:23 AM
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Afaik types are only a loose threshold, people fall for others all the time regardless they’re not exactly their type. I’ve got “you’re not my type” a couple times but I ended up sleeping with them anyway. I assume it was pretty much just a shit test.
/r/seduction10/12/25 01:57 PM
3

It’s mixed signals, so it’s a no. If she’s interested in you she will make it up to you, she will make time for you. I’ve had a few girls in the past who’ve told me I gave them false hope, just because I was being nice to them and willing to meet them up several times. I told them that I always see them as a friend, nothing more. I never go above and beyond. If I missed their calls then I don’t really care. I left them on read because I was thinking it wasn’t important. It sounds like your frien…
/r/seduction09/12/25 04:42 PM
5

One thing I’ve learned from doing a lot of cold approaches; is that you can turn on and off your emotions. Unfortunately not many people realize this. So they end up falling in love too quickly, not aware that they’re just infatuated or having oneitis. Just because you’ve had a couple of first dates with her or had sex with her, doesn’t mean you (should) fall head over heels for her. This is still the “I purposely have my emotion turned off” phase, aka you don’t really take it seriously, aka you…
/r/seduction08/12/25 12:53 AM
6

Social skills are the fundamental part. Most guys don’t really have problems picking up girls if their social skills are decent. Maybe just some hints here and there, or needing a bit of input from their fellow friends guys and girls alike. But for guys who are sheltered, extremely introverted, nerds, it’s surely an uphill battle. Look at the guys that participated in PUA show more than a decade ago. They don’t even know how to ask direction from a random guy out there, let alone picking up a ho…
/r/seduction07/12/25 03:57 AM
2

How people treat you is usually a reflection on how you treat yourself. Why should people care about you if you don’t even care about yourself? If you truly understand that, then start treating yourself better. Start loving and respecting yourself. One may ask “how do I love myself? I know how to love someone else, but myself?” Have you seen your whole life flashing before your eyes; then you realized your life is so bland and miserable, that you might start feeling sorry and even crying for tha…
/r/seduction06/12/25 03:31 AM
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Agree with the comment you replied above. But you don’t need to “balance” it. Look: As long as what she has on her hand (read: in her cellphone) is more interesting than what you say/or even your appearance, then you’d be going nowhere. She’s not your rival, her cellphone is. Just yesterday I approached a girl that was doom scrolling while waiting for her order. I just opened it by saying “did you know there’s something in your hair?”. She stopped scrolling, looked confused, and tried to see wha…
/r/seduction29/11/25 10:56 PM
2

I still talk to them, as in replying to their convo but not as in initiating the talk. Going out? Probably not unless they apologized for what they did and again, initiated the 2nd chance.
/r/seduction29/11/25 08:27 PM
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If you’re not familiar with cold approaches or the places themselves, I wouldn’t suggest you to do it alone. Familiarity is important. The way you act or do stuff depends on how familiar you are with the place and the people around you. If you’re a regular at bar or a club you can easily tell which ones are the newcomer just by their gestures or how they carry themselves.
/r/seduction29/11/25 08:22 PM
2

If you’re nervous talking to pretty girls that means their looks are intimidating to you. I’d suggest talk to random people first, average looking girls or even random guys.
/r/seduction29/11/25 04:45 PM
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What OP is doing pretty much the same thing with what people he complained about have been doing. OP said “you shouldn’t care whether or not a woman rejects you, breaks up with you. You have to be detached from any outcome.” Well, no double texting is one of many practical ways to do exactly that. Potato, potahto.
/r/seduction29/11/25 03:24 PM
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I always remember what John Lennon said: the time you enjoy wasting, is not wasted time. The keyword is enjoy. Who cares if it’s just binge watching movies or stuff. Or maybe you’re so ocd that you clean your room or your house to perfection. You’re the one who should make yourself happy, not another person, let alone a woman. If you’re a happy guy, you will match and be compatible with a happy woman. 2 happy people will share a happy life.
/r/seduction27/11/25 02:51 PM
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You said you’re not desperate but you sound desperate. Lemme get this right: what’s the purpose of you telling her that you miss her so bad? You just wanna vent out or let her know? Or you want her to reciprocate/feel the same way?
/r/seduction27/11/25 02:43 PM
1

10 days for texting? Maybe she implemented the “texting is for logistics only”. That’s a well known practice taught in this sub, but sadly I’ve observed that more girls abide by that than men. Some men really want to feel the romance and “get to know you better” first, while women want to cut to the chase.
/r/seduction23/11/25 03:52 PM
3

I could be wrong, but I have a hunch that you’re the one who’s emotionally attached (and you mistakenly project it to them as well thinking that they’re also deeply attached) as you said you look for a serious relationship. Then that situation scared them and they decided to pull back.
/r/seduction23/11/25 12:28 AM
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Yeah, the main idea that a date is the opportunity to sell yourself that you “convert” her is not healthy. Quit selling yourself aka impressing her. Start expressing yourself.
/r/seduction16/11/25 03:59 AM
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There’s lot of loner guys. Imagine if they talk to each other. I’d say start from your Contacts in your cell phone. Pick one random local friend that you feel you can talk and hang out with. Ask him/her to grab some coffee or whatever. It doesn’t have to be hours long, maybe just 30-45 mins no big deal and they wouldn’t feel burdened doing it. From my experience 9 out 10 they always say yes.
/r/seduction15/11/25 12:45 PM
1

Complaining doesn’t help your problem regardless you’re a man or a woman, but it’s helpful to get it out. We are social herds, we need to share our emotion if it makes us feel better. Why doing it in a journal if you can share it with your friend? You’re not someone who’s stranded in an island and had to talk to Wilson the volleyball. It’s the same thing with crying; the stigma of “men don’t cry” really hurts men in the long turn. We are told to suppress our emotions because we are men. But we e…
/r/seduction14/11/25 01:52 PM
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Complaining is okay, it’s good for your mental health. No solution is fine too. We are not machines that can solve our or her problems right away. The problem with everything, including venting, is how much is too much. This is one of many things that I personally believe they’re unfairly being put on men (men should do this, men shouldn’t do that, you can add 100’s to the lists…) to some extent yes it’s true and mold us as a mature man. But on the other hand if we wanna be honest, that kinda hi…
/r/seduction12/11/25 03:08 PM
1

Lemme tell you a story that happened recently: There’s this girl who confronted me because according to her, I gave her mixed msg’s. Sometimes I’m nice but other times I’m cold and ignoring her. I was surprised, because I just treat her like anyone else. Yes she got a hot body, but her face is okay-ish (7 at best). So I told her: you see me using your angle/pov which I understand. But what’s happened is I’m nice to you because I can, not just because I want to. But other times when I seem to ign…
/r/seduction10/11/25 04:06 PM
2

Focus on yourself is correct…. But that’s just half of the equation. That applies to almost everything in life. Wealth, career, relationship. Money doesn’t grow on trees, let alone women. To me that is one of many thousand sayings that sound pretty deep in a glance but if you think about it it’s just ridiculous.
/r/seduction09/11/25 05:50 PM
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it made me uncomfortable that I might make her uncomfortable Most common problems that guys have in this area is they overthink everything. Are you a people-pleaser type? Because that’s just too common. My principle is do all you wanna do because you like doing it, not because people want you doing it for them. You do it because you wanna express yourself, not because you wanna impress others. Obviously I’m not saying you should be harassing women. If they decline then they set their own boundar…
/r/seduction09/11/25 05:46 PM
3

I have a young brother around your age. He had similar problems. I had to kinda hold his hand to go through his transformation. I tell him to approach a stranger, no expectation just talk. At first he can’t even do that. “How do I talk to her?” He asked me. Idk, maybe open your mouth? But even for something that basic, I was baffled and feeling guilty at the same time that he was clueless at this basic function of an adult human. I also tell him to join an activity in his campus, that helped him…
/r/seduction02/11/25 05:01 PM
4

I have a couple friends like that. Whenever they bring up that kinda conversation, I always ask them to find a match for me. Of course I just mess around with them, but they don’t know it. Which is funny because I also sleep with the ones that they’ve introduced to me. Dealing with them is like dealing with old people/boomers. You should never take them seriously, or otherwise you’d get frustrated.
/r/seduction02/11/25 12:29 PM
1

A lot of these women are very beautiful, accomplished, great people, but I’ve noticed they are still single on the same dating apps for months and years, Do you think very attractive women will care about changing their status on dating apps? I mean if I were them, I probably wouldn’t. It would be fun to see guys like you to always drool over my pics and pay attention whether I’m still single or not.
/r/seduction02/11/25 12:22 PM
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It depends on how she said it. If it was a normal tone I would push back. Say something like “it’s closer to you that’s why I’m asking.” It’s like bantering with your younger sister. Guys who have sisters typically know how to deal with this. Bantering back and forth is normal with female siblings. Don’t be like a guy who wants to avoid confrontations then he got completely discouraged when the girl says no. Yeah there’s always a chance that she refused to do it because she doesn’t like you at a…
/r/seduction01/11/25 10:43 PM
7

Where women are. You basically ask people to write a book for you. If I were you I would just browse this sub, there’s lot of good informations especially from past 10-12 years.
/r/seduction01/11/25 12:51 PM
1

Those are shit tests, not red flags.
/r/seduction30/10/25 01:46 AM
1

You just met her and you already wrote a long post about her which clearly you overthink a lot of stuff. Just go with the flow, don’t expect something serious too soon. Who knows maybe she only wants to befriend you assuming her age that she might have more experiences in relationship. Or maybe she wants to have an intimate/sexual relationship with you but not something really serious. What you are experiencing is called infatuation; not love. That’s completely normal especially to people who ju…
/r/seduction28/10/25 01:21 AM
3

Why does it sound like you’re trying to sell something? If that’s the case, you come from an incorrect mindset.
/r/seduction27/10/25 05:09 PM
3

Just say “god damn!” or “damn you’re good!” Dynamics come from pull and push. Give people credit when it’s due.
/r/seduction26/10/25 05:33 PM
1

It’s called reciprocity. The reason why sex transaction is considered bad because it came from the premise that sex is sacred (religious pov). But is that so? If you take that argument away, you wouldn’t have anything else to stand for. For me personally sex is just like any other thing. For workers they exchange their labor and time for money. Are they whoring themselves? Why exchanging your labor and time with money is better than exchanging sex with money? I would say they’re pretty much the …
/r/seduction26/10/25 05:15 PM
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It’s called approach anxiety. If you want to learn more you can search the term in this sub or even in other relevant subs like dating etc. But one thing I know about anxiety that it’s about the pressure you’re dealing with; because you have so much expectations yet on the other hand you know you can’t meet them. For example in your case you brought up about being a virgin. It may not be relevant to anxiety in general, but it kinda gave me a clue why you mentioned it in the first place. You want…
/r/seduction26/10/25 12:11 AM
2

If you’re that paranoid ask him to get a complete test and show you the result. Maybe it could give you some assurances. If my girl asked me for a clean bill I would gladly give it to her. But if not then maybe the issue is deeper than STD’s.
/r/seduction25/10/25 11:41 PM
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Expand your question and her answer into a small talk. 1 question is a good enough topic to talk about without having to jump into another irrelevant topic. From your example that she mentioned hiking, you could dig deeper by saying something like “hey I want in, too. I wanna see if I could keep up with you.” The trick is to treat her like your guy friend; as in our conversations among guys don’t feel like an interview. Imagine your buddy stop by your place to see you; your conversation just flo…
/r/seduction23/10/25 05:44 PM
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From my observation yes: One of my exes is like that, and happens to some of my colleagues too. It fits with the “opposites attract.” But she was raised by both parents, looks like a happy family, and they’re still alive. It wasn’t her upbringing but her career. I found out when I was with her, sometimes she contradicted herself. Like she wanted me to do what she said but on the other hand she wanted me to lead. Biggest reason we broke up. I’m a pretty flexible guy but I told her she can’t have …
/r/seduction21/10/25 02:36 PM
1

They’re not mutually exclusive if you think about it. They come from the same place (brain). But I get what you’re talking about. It’s more about upbringing and stereotypical male vs female. I’d say upbringing because I noticed males who are sheltered usually have problems when it comes to approaching women or relationships. Not to mention the ones who don’t have a female sibling or who don’t have a father figure. Or whose parents who are restrictive/protective and have no friends. What I mean s…
/r/seduction20/10/25 12:17 PM
2

Ask yourself this: why are you not bothered about your height when hanging out with guys who are taller than you?
/r/seduction19/10/25 04:21 PM
3

Expressed as a ratio, there were 107.3 Seattle men for every 100 Seattle women, which was the biggest gender imbalance in favor of men among the 100 most populous U.S. cities. That was from the article posted above. Let’s say in a college there’s a classroom of 107 male and 100 female students while you’re one of the 107 males. If you tell me you can’t get laid with at least 1-2 of those 100 women, then I can assure you it’s not about the location. That just means you’re the bottom 7 out of 107 …
/r/seduction19/10/25 11:21 AM
1

If a woman says I don’t talk to strangers or I don’t give my number to strangers, then introduce yourself to her and start talking. Congrats, you’re not a stranger anymore!
/r/seduction19/10/25 10:05 AM
1

You mean meisner technique? Just an FYI, if you want to try any improv methods you can always do it with your guy friend. Doesn’t have to be a girl. Wish you luck!
/r/seduction18/10/25 10:14 PM
2

Have a steady job, move out, and make new friends. Yes I understand it’s easier said than done. But you need to realize your current situation is your comfort zone. As long as you stay inside your comfort zone, nothing will change. If you’re scared of your future then do something about it.
/r/seduction18/10/25 01:14 AM
1

Remember we women pay a lot for makeup, hair care, outfits and nails. This is why this mindset is incorrect even tho from a woman’s perspective: All these costs are not for one guy nor for an occasion. You bought all these that could last for months. Imagine putting all the costs on a guy, like an uber driver say “hey I bought this car to take you home” even tho he can do it for hundreds of passengers, it’s a gross markup. There’s a popular saying from many women that women make themselves prett…
/r/seduction16/10/25 09:28 AM
13

Think of this: what’s next after getting her number? She could always give hers or a fake one just try to be polite or to get rid of you. Or when you try to call her, she simply won’t answer or just block yours. This is why the focus shouldn’t be getting her number. But to have a genuine and interesting conversation. I came to the point where girls are the ones who gave me their number without me having to ask. Or right after exchanging ours, I simply interact with her at least for the next 10-1…
/r/seduction15/10/25 01:32 PM
5

You said it yourself, the “nice guy” being nice in order to expect something in return. So he does nice things to impress her. How many times I’ve heard guys doing a lot of nice things and say “I just wanna make her happy” but when she rejects, ghosts, or cheats on them, they got heartbroken. Reality hits. Ask yourself this question: “if she was ugly/fat, would I still be nice to her?” If the answer is no, then your niceness is not genuine. That you don’t have anything else to offer.
/r/seduction14/10/25 11:24 AM
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Approaching as in asking for her number or “hitting on” her; of course not, it’s just common sense. Approaching as in just trying to introduce your name and make a small talk so in the next few days or weeks you can slowly develop more interactions with her but only in 1 condition that she reciprocates; I’d say yes but needs to be done delicately.
/r/seduction13/10/25 01:10 AM
1

You never seen men who look at their wife with contempt and can’t get a divorce only because they know half of their money and house gotta be split with her? It’s always deceiving when you smear the whole group of gender as being incapable of doing something good. You know who does that all the time? Radical feminists. By doing this, you and them are pretty much on both sides of the same coin.
/r/seduction12/10/25 02:14 PM
2

Forget about pickup lines or thinking of using the “right” opener. Do you remember what a person opened with when he or she started talking to you? Most of the time, no. You just remember the conversation points that feel important to you. Pickup lines/openers are pretty much overrated. An opener is basically JUST to…. open a conversation. There’s 1001 ways to open a conversation. From complimenting what she wears (“nice sneakers, I think my sister has similar ones”) to just bullshitting (“you m…
/r/seduction10/10/25 10:59 PM
5

A workplace is a boring and serious place. Being playful or playfully romantic spice things up to make it less boring. It’s 8 hour a day so it’s a 1/3 of our 24 hour day. I’ve seen people doing “work wife/husband” at work all the time just to joke or play around and they end up having an affair.
/r/seduction10/10/25 08:09 PM
1

Not that confusing. If I could guess she just does a typical rotation; “Oh this guy cancelled/ghosted me, lemme try this guy see if he wants to dine out with me.” You did the right thing by turning her down as it wasn’t planned. Keep yourself high value and not easily available. I would just match her energy. If she only replies once a day then do the same. If she’s flirtatious then reciprocate. Regarding $30 or less I would say you gotta see her in person first. You don’t have to verbally say i…
/r/seduction09/10/25 08:54 PM
5

You have a huge net to catch thousands of women with 1 big swoop? Every time I hear “male vs female ratio” ever since PUA days I always think of nerds trying too hard to be a player.
/r/seduction08/10/25 03:08 AM
0

She’s putting you on a roaster with other guys. My guess she’s coming back to you because her other options are drying up.
/r/seduction08/10/25 12:29 AM
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Because getting their numbers is not the goal.
/r/seduction07/10/25 02:07 AM
6

Make peace with yourself. Forgive yourself so you can move on from your old wounds caused by other people in the past. If you don’t do that, you would easily associate people around you with people who’ve hurt you in the past.
/r/seduction07/10/25 01:46 AM
4

I get what you’re saying. I’m pretty much like you. Men like us tend to start from 0% and eventually climb up to 100% when it comes to efforts and getting romantically closer. While women expect us to start from 100% right off the bat and would like to see us stay there all the time, otherwise even if we give 90% in the middle of our dates journey that’d be seen as a failure on our part. But in specific case like this, I would like to see how attractive/interesting she is. If she’s up there then…
/r/seduction02/10/25 04:57 PM
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What I know is everyone wants to aim higher. But regarding your case, well no one knows but them. Have you tried asking them why they approached you? The possibility is limitless, I’d assume. From you might look approachable or maybe you’re desirable to them. But maybe the real question is: why don’t higher league women approach you? The ones who are physically fit and hot. I think this is where leagues and points come in handy, regardless how many people disagree with that. I would say you’re p…
/r/seduction29/09/25 04:41 AM
2

I can’t read her mind, bro.
/r/seduction29/09/25 12:09 AM
4

I would say the same thing. At least first thing first. No need to have a successful life yet to get women but at least cover all your bases first.
/r/seduction28/09/25 06:24 PM
5

Ahh, you’re one of those guys. The ones that we see in restaurants where they sit down with their date but there’s no conversation, awkward silence, and the girl just keeps staring at her cellphone. Like a comic or a conversationalist, you need to come up with materials. A lot of guys tend to think that we could just wing it, but that’s not the case most of the time. Forget about physical escalation like touching or kissing if you can’t break the ice and escalate verbally. The materials don’t ha…
/r/seduction27/09/25 11:50 PM
17

Fake it till you make it is actually a good advice.
/r/seduction21/09/25 08:27 PM
2

I can tell from my experience south east asian girls are not feisty like latinas lol. Great job closing on her!
/r/seduction21/09/25 03:39 PM
67

Multitasking is a thing. Dating apps are like passive income, you don’t focus on it but once in a while you hit a jackpot.
/r/seduction21/09/25 03:34 PM
1

6-7 weeks but not going out yet?
/r/seduction21/09/25 02:21 PM
1

Find the root cause of why you care so much what others may think of you. Usually it’s the upbringing. Like from when a person always gets treated badly by their parents whenever he did something wrong, even if it’s just a small thing. Or he’s being neglected or abandoned by them on a daily basis, barely any praises or compliments. So he keeps looking for validation from his parents or people around him in order to satisfy his good feelings, as if they were rewards.
/r/seduction19/09/25 05:15 PM
2

The real question is: why would you want to maintain emotional intimacy with a person you only met once? It’s called oneitis, thirsty, simps, whatever it is that’s not good for you.
/r/seduction19/09/25 05:04 PM
3

Oh boy. 3rd time cancellation and you’re gonna get a tupperware. But seriously, what did you say or reply to her when she cancelled the last time? Maybe it’s too late but if I were you I’d leave her on read or ignore her totally. I had a feeling you’ve been pushy since the beginning and she’s just trying to be nice to you. If she wanted you she would cancel anything else for you.
/r/seduction19/09/25 12:32 AM
1

From your post it sounds like the attraction is only in “flirting/verbal” phase. Have you slept with any of them? I’ve worked around models-level women for years, I know how easy it is to mistakenly think they’re attracted to you just because they smile, touch, or hug you. They basically do that to guys in their circles. They love when guys stare at them or they make their jaws dropped. So my advice is for you to make your move, try to confirm that they are actually attracted to you.
/r/seduction14/09/25 06:54 PM
2

You don’t have to have a green light for an escalation. In fact her inviting you to her home could be considered one. I would just casually touch her arm or her hand and see her response, she doesn’t need to escalate first. Most women are sensitive/well aware when guys escalate. Friends don’t touch each other especially between opposite genders. That’s the least you could do to avoid friendzoning yourself.
/r/seduction13/09/25 10:36 PM
1

It’s normal to want to find a closure. But at this point it’s not worth it. I’d assume this was your first experience being ghosted. First time is always the hardest. There will be more if you’re deep into the journey. Oh and on another note; you could ghost someone in the future, too. And don’t feel too bad about it.
/r/seduction13/09/25 10:31 PM
2

Quit overthinking it. It implies that you got so much time in your hand that your mind starts wandering of the possibilities why she did what she did. Busy people don’t have time to overthink, especially as minuscule as this kind of issue. Use your time to do a lot of other things. Like actual things instead of having your mind idling and wandering. Guys who make their life busy are attractive. You don’t have to believe me, just ask any girls.
/r/seduction12/09/25 11:40 PM
3

When she said most drinks are “mid”, that’s a red flag. At least for me. I’d just tease her by saying “ah, we have a professional drinker right here, huh?” and probably just walk away. From that point on, she just treated you like a cute dog. The end was predictable.
/r/seduction11/09/25 09:03 AM
3

Guys gotta do jump through a lot of hoops so he can “sell” himself and girls can just spread her legs and barely does anything. I think this subconscious mindset is a major reason why lots of us have anxiety when approaching women. Have the table turned. For example if a girl is boring in a convo or talks superficially just call her out “damn you’re so boring.”
/r/seduction11/09/25 08:57 AM
1

That’s why writing in seduction sub is not always good. It’s never what you say, it’s how you say it. Or in fact; who says it. This post shouldn’t exist because if the convo is dynamics, then the woman could’ve said that in order to “test” the guy, or just want to see his reaction. A guy shouldn’t just “hmm, okay” whenever a woman says something.
/r/seduction11/09/25 08:50 AM
1

Who wants your vagina anyway? LoL
/r/seduction11/09/25 08:46 AM
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Not typically. I’d use that to playfully banter with her. Say something like “home? Even Cinderella went home at midnight”, or “have you watched “Cinderella at 2 am”? You don’t? Not gonna spoil it for you, but I bet you’d like it”, or “going back to your daily boredom, huh?” or “have you heard “nothing good happens after 2 am?” We still got a couple hours before we go home.”
/r/seduction10/09/25 11:21 AM
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When she looks and smiles at you BEFORE you approach, those are not considered IoI’s. Indicator of Interests was a term invented so guys are able to observe it while doing the approach, not before. So if you wanna be able to tell the difference, then approach her and see whether she gives you IoI’s or just tries to be nice/polite.
/r/seduction06/09/25 12:06 PM
71

“I have a black friend” pic.
/r/seduction06/09/25 11:58 AM
1

You can always hope. But it sounds like the problem is not that. But you try so hard…. to impress. It’s a classic case of: to impress vs to express. Whatever you do, do it to express yourself. You need to channel what you have in mind, your opinion, your emotions. Show your true colors. By doing that, you’re being genuine. People generally have more respect and admiration when the person they talk to feels genuine, regardless of a possibility of disagreement. On the other hand, once you try to i…
/r/seduction05/09/25 02:19 AM
40

I came to the point in my day game journey that (doing) less is actually more. Heck you could just do 1-2 approaches a day and get more results than do 10.
/r/seduction05/09/25 02:05 AM
1

Don’t focus on getting numbers.
/r/seduction05/09/25 01:40 AM
2

You don’t take care of a stranger or people you just met for a few months like you take care of your own family members. They need to deserve it before you finally put them in your inner circle. If you do that, they will think of you as a “nice guy”, a simp, or a guy who desperately needs validation. There are castes, hierarchies, levels of intimation and respect in societies including in our social circles (strangers —> acquaintances —-> friends —-> exclusive partners —-> family members) whethe…
/r/seduction04/09/25 02:14 PM
5

In what psychology book that you quoted from that “clear signs of being an EXTROVERT”? Lemme tell you, read a book or 2; the differences between an extrovert and an introvert are not what you or public think. OP said he opened up group chats that’s a clear sign, he also initiated convos that’s another sign. Do you think an introverted person would do that? I’m not sensitive to criticism but I’m allergic to stupidity.
/r/seduction03/09/25 02:24 AM
3

It’s a typical residue of a night game. Either you close on her that night or you don’t. The next day she’ll become the person you don’t recognize and she will act like she doesn’t know you. Because the previous night she was a wild girl and today’s she’s a good, innocent girl.
/r/seduction03/09/25 01:16 AM
4

“You’re probably wondering how I got in that situation”
/r/seduction03/09/25 01:11 AM
3

Why tf do redditors like you like to say “yes but…” convo? OP is clearly an extrovert that’s why I offered him a solution based on what he said. Social dynamics and relationships are always a case by case basis. Can’t just throw out some generic advices regardless of the personalities.
/r/seduction03/09/25 01:06 AM
4

Learn how social media works. People love talking, people love to be asked so they can answer them (re: reddit). The problem is what kind of topic you bring up to the table, what kind of question you ask them. Look at the posts that people ask on reddit, many left unanswered because they sound boring or even borderline dumb (“you could easily google it but you wanna ask people? Seriously?”) Even before social media exists, one of typical methods of PUA to approach women was to simply rage bait: …
/r/seduction02/09/25 09:51 PM
1

Her saying that doesn’t mean anything. Experienced so many times women said to me “this was a mistake”, “what are we now” after we slept together. If she agrees to go out with you, then verbally and physically escalate and see if she reciprocates. If she doesn’t then cut her off. If you don’t know how to escalate search “escalation” in this sub.
/r/seduction02/09/25 02:52 PM
2

Physiognomy is pseudoscience. I’ve slept with more women who didn’t give me any IOI’s in our initial convos than the ones who did.
/r/seduction02/09/25 02:46 PM
2

Are you back to to another country or still there? If you’re still in the same loc with her I’d text her. If not just follow up whenever she replies or few days before you come back.
/r/seduction02/09/25 02:43 PM
1

Talk to him and make a rule for both of you, something like the “bro code”. This shouldn’t be a major problem. Lots of fish in the sea. There was even an occasion when me and my wingman at the time found out we slept with the same girl without us being aware of it. You know what we did? We high-fived each other. Last time I remember years ago in PUA community if it’s a group setting, the guy who approaches first (opens the set) is the one who gets the first priority, so another guy will automati…
/r/seduction01/09/25 12:34 AM
1

Every 4-8 weeks. And I don’t shampoo my hair, last time I did was in February this year. My hair has been darker and thicker. Thank me later.
/r/seduction31/08/25 11:46 AM
1

Context needed. What did she actually say to you? Did she specifically mention the word friends? I’ve slept with women who aren’t single, some of them even mentioned they have a bf in the first convo. But that doesn’t mean shit. I treat them like my date, not the “I worship the ground you walk on” kind of way, but the “I will verbally and physically tease and touch you as if we’ve had sex before” way.
/r/seduction31/08/25 11:43 AM
1

Guys tend to act cool and shit when they go out with a woman. It’s all “cool” emotion. That will end up being boring. Express yourself; if you don’t like something then say it. If you disagree with what she said then say it. If you’re upset then express it. By doing that you create a tension, it’s gonna be good dynamics. She will look at you as a genuine guy, not just a guy who acts cool and agreeable. Most of the time those dynamics lead to sexual tension.
/r/seduction29/08/25 01:00 PM
1

The typical problem with your situation is the woman has other guys in rotation. I’m not saying that’s what she does, but it sounds like it. You sound like the one who gives more in the relationship, while she’s the taker. If that’s the case, the typical outcome is the giver expects more, and the taker feels that she doesn’t need to do anything more to go to the next phase. Case in point: you expect her to introduce you to her family. What I would do if I were you: steps back and give her more s…
/r/seduction29/08/25 12:51 PM
1

If you don’t do it to brag then it doesn’t matter whether it’s valuable or not with women. I’ve had some women saying that good characters are so sexy but when it comes to their needs, they want to be prioritized first. So what they say/think and what they want are 2 different things. Some others say that physically attractive men are more important than their good characters. But when they got verbally and physically abused by their men or when their family members are treated by their men like…
/r/seduction29/08/25 12:40 PM
7

You got the mindset wrong. No such oneliner will work if you don’t know what’s going on. Going out with a guy from a woman’s pov is a big task. Especially if she doesn’t know you that well. This is why you gotta start from a small one. For example ask her to bring you a cookie. Or ask her to “come here I need to talk to you.” You will need to gradually make the task getting bigger eventually. Women are all aware with this “compliance test” (search these words in this sub) as they do it all the t…
/r/seduction28/08/25 11:21 AM
1

I agree with you but… “be a man” is just a vague advice. We don’t just suddenly become a man. It’s a process. Sadly most guys don’t even know how to start the process. They need a guidance.
/r/seduction28/08/25 11:07 AM
1

We can have an AMA today and 1 year later people will bring up the same issues you brought up “they are all scattered!” There have been great posts and comments in this sub from 10-12 years ago. Just use search feature.
/r/seduction28/08/25 11:03 AM
3

enjoy making them feel pain for some reason Well then you’re not gonna be able to find a (healthy) relationship, let alone a girl. Even if you finally get a gf, that enjoyment over making her feel pain or sad will still be there. So there’s a big chance you will end up hurting her on purpose for your enjoyment, either emotionally or worse physically. Find that “for some reason” you mentioned in your post. There’s gotta be a root cause for that. Not just popping out of nowhere. Maybe your past (y…
/r/seduction26/08/25 12:11 AM
1

I’m not your lord lol. A lot of useful informations here. For starter search “inner game” in this sub and read the top posts and comments. Correct your mindset first. It all starts from there. Methods and techniques are pretty much useless if your mindset is not in the right place.
/r/seduction17/08/25 12:28 AM
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“I want to make it memorable so she feels something special for me” is already stepping into “trying too hard” zone. But since you mentioned where you’re from, that makes me wonder. Why is it guys from India tend to try too hard and put women on pedestal? I’d just assume it’s cultural. Or maybe those bolywood movies really poison the way indian guys think of women; a guy character always goes above and beyond in order to impress his crush.
/r/seduction16/08/25 12:35 PM
2

Talk to people (friends, family members, stranger guys) before you cold approach. By doing that it would put you in the zone of being relaxed and somewhat chatty. It’s basically a warm-up.
/r/seduction10/08/25 08:20 PM
1

This whole thing sounds weird. It feels like you and her live in different realms. She mentioned to you about planning to go to a certain festival after work, what was your response? Did she give you a hint that maybe she wanna go with you, expect you to take her there, or did she just talk about it in passing? Why did she look surprised that you were there at the festival, you didn’t tell her you wanted go there, too?
/r/seduction08/08/25 11:28 PM
1

Why didn’t you say “ewww” after she said she’s been watching your every move? Learn from women, they can easily dismiss guys just by 1 simple word. That’s how tension starts.
/r/seduction08/08/25 10:33 AM
1

There’s no game here. Anyone can use that power dynamics (boss vs employee) to rig the so called game. When I read it first I thought it was a scene from porn. Power-based theme is popular in porn for a reason, even including role-play and incest. Reminds me of the quote “Everything in the world is about sex, except sex. Sex is about power” - Oscar Wilde.
/r/seduction08/08/25 10:30 AM
3

You were clueless when she said that and that’s understandable. Guys who are not taught about approaching techniques, let alone basic social skills, don’t know how to “read the room” / social cues. On the other hand, we as guys also need to learn on how to give cues like she did. So you could also say things like what she said “you should try out my hobby” when you and a girl talked about a hobby. “We should hang out together”. “I’m free this weekend if you wanna try that new place”. “Let’s chec…
/r/seduction07/08/25 11:39 AM
3

she told me I should try her hobby out. My only response was “yeah that would be awesome”… Sounds like she got more social skills or experiences than you do. Right there she gave you an opening but you didn’t take it. Closing is always about “you and me” theme, it’s no longer about general topic. So when she said “YOU should try MY hobby out” you could’ve have reciprocated by saying something like “I’d love to. Let’s do it this weekend!”
/r/seduction07/08/25 08:06 AM
5

Women tend to compliment other women generously based on the ideal situation, not the realistic one. Every woman is a 10 in their eyes. I would assume it’s because “women support each other”. Based on your post I would think your self-review is more honest. What I see is you’re probably a 6 but you want guys that are a 7 or an 8. On the other hand guys who like you are probably around your league too like 6 or even below. But this is completely normal as it happens to guys, too. Guys who are a 7…
/r/seduction02/08/25 03:08 PM
2

Used to work 2nd shift. From that point I found out MILF’s, young single moms, and recently broke-up girls prefer to go shopping at a mall or grocery stores in the morning. Not to mention girls who just got back from their overnight shift job or have 2nd shift one. The time duration is also the sweet spot for day game. Slow pace, ambient vibes.
/r/seduction29/07/25 05:07 PM
1

Why does it matter to you whether people talk or don’t talk about you?
/r/seduction29/07/25 02:03 AM
0

Sure you can. Your case is like mine too. But basic social skills are… basic. If you don’t have them then how can you even go to the next stage? I suggest you to browse this sub, just like in the past few weeks. See if what I said is true.
/r/seduction27/07/25 12:31 PM
3

Yes you will. But not the love you’ve had before. I called that love a naive and blind one. The one that made you think she’s the one, the soulmate. It’s just your brain tricking yourself. Imagine calling it love when you were only with her for 3 months. Heck even at work it’s called a probation period before you finally get hired on. If you wanna find love, find the mature kind of love. The one that grows because you spend time with her for a while. Not just 3 months like the last time. Give it…
/r/seduction27/07/25 11:47 AM
58

The real complete beginner’s guide: How to talk to a human being. Majority of problems brought up in this sub are not even about seduction or attraction. It’s lack of basic social skills.
/r/seduction27/07/25 11:35 AM
8

“Another golden chance” is the first mistake you made in your mind. This is not a romcom movie. This is Patrick. This is real life. Assuming what you said is true, then she gave you some hints that she likes you. She created that opportunity. She invited you. You don’t wait for another chance to materialize like that. It’s your turn to create that opportunity. Now you gotta approach her, regardless.
/r/seduction27/07/25 11:32 AM
1

IoI’s were coined so we can observe them after we approach, not before. They are the result of your approach. So if I haven’t approached but she glances or smiles at me, I wouldn’t consider that as an interest. Most people just try to be courteous to others, that’s just common courtesy. This is why some guys got mad when they got rejected after mistakenly thinking that the feeling is mutual.
/r/seduction26/07/25 11:03 PM
16

Imagine having to create an app to discuss red flags on men. That will just lead to “all or nothing” pov, tilted women to extreme views. Even some people (women and men included) can’t tell the difference between red flags and flaws.
/r/seduction26/07/25 08:23 PM
3

Both can be true. The sad fact about problems shared/asked online is we don’t actually watch the interaction so we can only guess what’s going on based on the OP’s story. I bet he doesn’t even know whether he’s “too friendly/nice” or “too timid”.
/r/seduction18/07/25 02:00 PM
1

“No, you and me will get one room. I sleep on the bed and you sleep on the couch. If you want to get another room that’s fine but you gotta pay for your own room.” That’s how you create a tension. And that’s how you imply that with or without her, your travel plan still goes. Not because you’re trying to lure her in.
/r/seduction18/07/25 01:53 PM
1

More like Disciple of Mosby. Have you met Ted?
/r/seduction04/07/25 11:19 AM
5

I’ve seen some convo sent to me. Basically guys complaining the girl that they have a crush on is in another continent. “Oh too bad you live so far away. I love you so much.” Like, seriously, you didn’t think of that before you slide into their DM’s? “Oh I’ve fallen in love and spent lots of time with you on the internet. Why do we have to be far away from each other?” Yea because you’re a desperate dumbass that’s why. No attractive girl within 100 miles radius? You live in North Pole?
/r/seduction04/07/25 11:15 AM
10

The issue is not her deleting her msg. But your insecurity shows up when she did that. So asking “what could something like that mean, guys?” is not even asking the right question. The right question would be: “Why do I feel uncomfortable seeing her deleted msg? What’s wrong with me? This is just something small. If she deleted it that means she doesn’t want me to read it. If she doesn’t want me to read it then I shouldn’t be bothered by that. It shouldn’t be deeper than that. Just like if she w…
/r/seduction29/06/25 01:02 PM
2

Lemme rephrase: For me, cold approach whether on a street or a bar/club is technically the same. You meet up with a stranger, you initiate small talks and interests then see if she reciprocates. The only difference is maybe the pace and the environment. But the steps are no different. So, in what specific steps in approaching strangers that you feel different compared to when you do it in a bar/club?
/r/seduction29/06/25 12:53 PM
2

What makes you think that cold approach is more difficult than doing it in a bar or a club?
/r/seduction29/06/25 12:38 PM
4

How and why is this even an issue? Smdh
/r/seduction29/06/25 12:25 PM
3

Hooking up is never weird, what’s weird is if she says no. To avoid this, just copy and paste what women do all the time. When a woman is attracted to a guy she usually asks him to do something for her. From doing a small thing like “can you get me my purse from my car” to a big one like “you busy tomorrow, can you come with me to go shopping/picking up my dry cleaning”. Not only it’s a compliance test, but it’s a subtle way to avoid a hard rejection. A guy says no when she just wanna do grocery…
/r/seduction29/06/25 01:26 AM
9

The numbers are very well known for years, it’s even much lower if you’re a beginner so… I stick to cold approach because: I don’t really care with the outcome. It’s something you can enjoy just by you meeting up with strangers and you hone in your skills. You can get more interesting info from them and really dig the convo. Never thought in my lifetime I’d be talking to a ballerina or a girl whose parents came from the country I’ve never heard of. You can tweak the numbers by being picky. And I…
/r/seduction26/06/25 02:00 PM
1

Yeah anything could work. But I feel like flaunting places on social media is so high-school/college. That’s just me tho. A lot of women can tell whether you’re high status from your picture alone (without having to show off the food or the name of the restaurant): They know whether clothes you’re wearing in your pic are high quality/expensive or not. Even without the brand/logo visible (they love the “old money” aesthetic style). They zoom in your face and see if you have visible blackheads on …
/r/seduction25/06/25 09:31 PM
4

I agree with you, I consider approaching women like an intermediate level of interpersonal skills, while most guys I’ve seen here addressing their problems don’t even have basic social skills. My favorite analogy is guys who want to swim out in an open sea but they can’t even swim in a swimming pool.
/r/seduction25/06/25 09:00 PM
1

I understand. Guys have been thru worse than that. Some got ghosted after having few dates. I even once got ghosted after having sex with a woman even tho she said it was great and love to see me again. But tbh no one knows the real answer but the girl. We’d like to know where we messed up so we won’t repeat it again as a self-reflection. And the situation is worse because instead of giving us closure, she’s nowhere to be around. If you asked online strangers we could only guess, the possibility…
/r/seduction25/06/25 02:46 AM
1

The other day I watched a YT short where the poster compiled a video of some women that said that if the guy reaches them promptly, that means he’s desperate. But in the same video some other women said if the guy waited for a few days that means he doesn’t take them seriously. The Youtuber happened to be a woman and she rolled her eyes having to listen to these women, basically she gets guys’ frustration that we can’t win either way if we just do things in order to please them. Bottom line: the…
/r/seduction25/06/25 02:21 AM
1

I feel it is a bit weird Why is it weird? Women do it all the time. In fact you’re weird if you think this is weird. The weird-ception. Just say something like “Sorry I gotta leave. Nice meeting you…” who cares if she’s shocked or upset. People say hi and bye all the time.
/r/seduction23/06/25 10:25 PM
4

If she was a guy, what would you wanna talk about? Same stuff. Make it like the convo flows naturally, not like you’re hitting on her.
/r/seduction22/06/25 01:02 PM
1

Of course most people aren’t 100% evil, but you can find red flags in guys not just women you’re attracted to. A person can always be nice with hidden motives “look how nice I am, doing all this shit FOR you, so step back if I want to approach this girl.” If it’s just a minor flaw I usually ignore it. But to me one-upmanship is a red flag particularly in guys. Usually comes from insecurity or low self esteem. But that’s not your problem to work on, that’s his.
/r/seduction21/06/25 12:47 PM
2

I’d ditch that guy.
/r/seduction21/06/25 12:28 PM
2

It’s FaceTime, not sex. No such thing as too early for facetiming.
/r/seduction20/06/25 09:46 PM
1

When she gave her drink to you, that could’ve been a good opportunity to escalate. “This drink is good, but I prefer to drink it together you. Now that would be perfect. Half and half? What do you think?”
/r/seduction19/06/25 11:56 PM
2

I used to be like you, an overthinker. My fav analogy is when you go swimming the first time, maybe when you were a kid. So many things to think about; the water is too cold, it’s too deep, what if there’s a shark down there, or an alligator, I can’t see the bottom, what if I’m drown. You could add some more… Eventually if you really wanna go swimming, there’s no choice but to jump in. You could take advantage of being an overthinker: by thinking a lot of things you gonna talk about to her. But …
/r/seduction18/06/25 03:13 PM
2

The amount of time you’ve used to write and post this could’ve been used to strike up a convo with her. A stranger, a tinder date from last year, a friend of a friend, smiling, no smiling… who cares. Just approach.
/r/seduction18/06/25 01:01 AM
10

It’s not about literal time frame per se, but about the other frame. Your own frame. Be busy with your life, be playful with some women not just one. When you’re busy and enjoying your life, bonus point if you have some women on your roster, 24 hour feels so fast. On the other hand if you got nothing else to do but to just wait for her response and focus on her only, even 1 hour feels so long. You can pretend to not be needy and clingy for certain period of time trying to polish up your image on…
/r/seduction16/06/25 08:07 PM
2

Place is just a noise most of the time. Imagine playing a game where the setting can be changed to summer or winter, or in a jungle or within city blocks. But the principles and routines are pretty much the same. What you need to pay attention more is in most places you only have 10-15 mins to do a set, from opening to earning trust and gaining her interests. Regardless you’re in a gym, a grocery store, on a public transport, or in a bar. If she’s attracted to you that time can extend organicall…
/r/seduction16/06/25 05:01 PM
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When I read that she told you you’re the first guy she kissed after her ex, I just laughed. She seemed to know how to make yourself feel good and be in the clouds. Rotation is the name of the game. People ghost each other mainly because there’s always a new candidate needs to be given a trial, while they put you on the bench. If you don’t rotate your dates, they surely will rotate you.
/r/seduction16/06/25 03:40 PM
223

Guys always face catch 22 when dealing with women. So might as well take your shot.
/r/seduction16/06/25 10:10 AM
3

No, man. “The place” should be the last one on the list to be concerned about. If you have great skillsets you can approach any women basically anywhere. But the opposite is also true: “smoking area” is not the easiest place if your skill sucks. Most of the time it’s never about the place.
/r/seduction16/06/25 01:27 AM
4

they are very much conversation-focused. In my experience night game is always the twilight zone thing lol. I stopped counting how many times the women I talked to don’t even have the same convo with me, even tho our body language and gestures are aligned. Our convos the next morning are usually “that’s not what you said last night” or “I thought that’s what you said!” And end up laughing and shaking our head together. If you’re so focused on the convo in a night game, you’d get lost in the fore…
/r/seduction15/06/25 07:25 PM
2

I would’ve done pretty much the same. First scene even sounded like a trap where she approached you and the guy left. And the questions you throw at her are basically regular ones, the “getting to know you” ones and she just dismissed them like she wanna go straight to have sex with you. Even if I finally did have sex with her, I’d be extra cautious. Either wear an extra rubber lol, or seriously packed.
/r/seduction15/06/25 07:19 PM
1

Try day game.
/r/seduction14/06/25 10:01 AM
2

Yea man. Probably a bot. I should’ve paid more attention. These bots or people just post a lot of shit without even replying.
/r/seduction13/06/25 12:56 PM
19

I just read your previous posts in this sub. Is she the same girl? If she is then it’s inevitable. You basically know where you went wrong; you said it yourself that you’re overgiving, too emotionally invested. Sometimes reality has to hit us hard so we can have our eyes opened. I just want to repeat what I’ve said to you in the past: you practically gave out feminine energy, and I’m saying this respectfully, not intended to offend you. I’ve dated a girl that’s the most liberal I’ve ever met (mi…
/r/seduction13/06/25 01:17 AM
2

Best questions are always the situational ones: how long they’ve been going to the gym or how often they go in a week, what’s your gym goal, even up to what they wear. I love approaching people (men included) in the gym, even just for a few minutes each person. I spend close to 50% of my gym time just making small talks. Yeah I’m that guy. But of course you gotta be discerned that not everyone wants to talk they just wanna get there, work out then leave. There are few times I bring up “what they…
/r/seduction12/06/25 04:32 PM
11

In gym demographics’, your age probably falls into the younger or even youngest group so don’t be surprised if all girls you meet there will be older than you. If you want to improve your social skills, you can just basically throw any questions. Sky is the limit. But of course, you might put yourself in a risk of doing interview-style questions. Especially since none of them reciprocate so far, not even asking your name back. Or you could tell them that you’re new in the gym and give them impre…
/r/seduction12/06/25 03:52 PM
4

You sound like the sensitive plant. You know, the one that you touch then its leaves shrink? I think this happens because you really overthink every situation. Because of that you’re very outcome-dependent, always get stuck in the flirting stage just because their feedback as not good as you hope so you back off. I would say you need to be more assertive. Maybe from their pov, they could see a potential in you as a future BF. But it always falls flat when they see you keep acting like “he’s just…
/r/seduction12/06/25 09:30 AM
4

An interesting question lol. Is it simping if you already got it? All simps can only dream to be in your position haha. But $17 hoping for 2nd round? Now you’re pushing it. I can imagine she’s home, throws the food on the table and tells her family members “$17 is $17, today we feast!”
/r/seduction11/06/25 02:55 AM
3

Verbally. When a woman states she feels uncomfortable you need to speak up your mind, don’t just answer it in your head. Say something like “I don’t want you to stay too far”, “I don’t wanna speak to you loudly since you’re not that close.” or playfully say “did you just think that I’m trying to make a pass on you? Oh wow! Get that mind off the gutter!” As guys we tend to reserve our thoughts in our head. But by being quiet, women tend to interpret it as they caught us red handed or we quietly a…
/r/seduction11/06/25 02:47 AM
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Great post! Here’s what I thought by your points: This is true in most cases. I wouldn’t argue about it. But of course there are some cases where it’s just a hookup or casual where you gotta be clear with your intention. It doesn’t negate your point, tho. It’s just some guys who technically have no social skills at all will swallow all hints and tips without considering some context. Agree with this one. The keyword is in your point: not TOO available. I’d say the more fundamental things: Set yo…
/r/seduction11/06/25 01:43 AM
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It doesn’t really matter as long as you don’t text them just for the sake of “keeping it alive.” I’ve seen girls complaining that the guy didn’t text a day or 2 before the date, and girls complaining why the guy texted a day before the date. To the point where I think some of them will complain if you breathe too slow lol. If your goal is to pander them, you’ll never win.
/r/seduction10/06/25 11:14 AM
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“Compliance test” is the one I’ve found to be far more effective than just trying to read her body language, which guys tend to misinterpret it just because girls want to be nice to them. You could ask her from something small “sit down here next to me” especially when both of you go on break at the same time, or ask her to get you a water or a soda from a vending machine… …. to asking her to bring you a sandwich or making you lunch for the next day, or even up to asking her out outside work. Of…
/r/seduction09/06/25 02:54 PM
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People can still be flakey and ghosting others even after 3rd date and after having sex. What I’ve observed is to avoid getting too focused on 1 person, people have their own roster. You’re probably not the only guy in hers. Which is okay, and you should probably do the same. I’ve seen with my own eyes my female colleagues on dating apps sort out guys like crazy, it’s like football coaches setting up players on their game plan, who’s gonna be top priority and who’s gonna be on the bench. Also ju…
/r/seduction08/06/25 09:12 PM
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The article sounds like a satire, and I wouldn’t be surprised if the writer himself is single. I mean, 19 bullet points on “why you’re single” and backed up by data and math? What a nerd thing to write. Not to mention looking at his pic and profiles on wiki. He probably could add 100’s more and still didn’t answer the question lol.
/r/seduction08/06/25 08:50 PM
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Definitely. I’ve playfully said to women “fuck you!” while smiling and giggling and most of their responses were “wait, come back!” or “no that’s not what I meant! what’s your name?” but if someone as nerdy as McLovin’ character using the same “fuck you!” line I wouldn’t be surprised if he got a slap. Most of the time It’s not about what you say, but about how you say it.
/r/seduction08/06/25 05:08 PM
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Yea it’s called rizz lines. They’re mostly for clicks and views. But back in the days pickup lines weren’t taken seriously either. It was all for playful banter, until some nerds came in and thought “is that how you pick up girls?” and started using them, then pickup lines were no longer fun.
/r/seduction08/06/25 04:48 PM
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You mentioned going to church and being in a community work. I think they are your best bet to get acquainted with more people. Like a church they usually have more activities apart from Sunday services. I even know some have a weekly gathering for single people/parent. Check it out, befriend some of them, hang out with them outside church.
/r/seduction08/06/25 02:22 PM
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Fascinating things are different for everyone. Even if you have a sound-boring hobby, you could narrate it in a fascinating way. For example: I’ve dated women whose hobbies are gardening, and watching and drawing anime, without any context they would sound bland and boring. But since they were fascinated with their hobbies, they could tell me the things they do and I was fascinated to listen to their stories.
/r/seduction08/06/25 03:08 AM
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Here’s the thing I call: ”one step forward”. Maybe it sounds like manifesting but who cares lol. I consider it part of the escalation, anyway. If you meet a stranger, you gotta treat her like you’ve met her before. If you go out with a date, you gotta treat her like she’s your gf. What I mean by that obviously not by showering her with love and buying her stuff, but by breaking the barrier and minimizing the awkwardness between you two. What would usually you talk about with your gf? Of course t…
/r/seduction07/06/25 01:17 PM
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Ideally I say you’re on the right path by taking accent reduction classes. But… …. It’s not about accent per se, it’s about how you carry yourself. This is what I meant by that: I saw some people clearly show low confidence, being nervous when they found out they said a word incorrectly or someone politely trying to correct them, as if they’ve just been caught doing a major mistake or something very bad. Some of them even said sorry. I was like, sorry for what? Don’t ever say sorry for saying so…
/r/seduction07/06/25 12:40 AM
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It’s never “always” with human behaviors. That’s why the rules, the principles, and the methods are not supposed to be taken without any context Even the other day when I told a guy in PM that my #1 rule is “don’t put women on pedestal”, he interpreted it as “no flirts, no teasing.” I was like, wait how are you gonna escalate? But I then realized, his understanding is different from mine taken from a just short sentence alone.
/r/seduction06/06/25 05:28 PM
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This is just a stupid take, brother. Just because you feel you’re a natural doesn’t mean you are. Seduction is a skillset, it’s learned. Some have learned it at early age, so early that they mistakenly thought it was natural, while in reality they learned it thru watching how older guys done it or taught by their peers. I was raised in a home where the door is always open to anyone. I got parents that are outgoing and have lots of friends. Sometimes when they come to visit they bring their kids …
/r/seduction06/06/25 11:06 AM
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It’s just that I tried 3some before and didn’t like it, so I assume orgies would be worse.
/r/seduction06/06/25 10:56 AM
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No weird fetish (like orgies, bdsm, necrophilia, incests, kids). I still can tolerate something mild like foot or armpit fetish. My max limit is role play. Other than that, like people say all is fair in war and love.
/r/seduction06/06/25 01:46 AM
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I have some but idk if I can be specific because: - in every case the situation is different, imagine if I told you this is what I did in one occasion, but I didn’t do that in another occasion thus I don’t wanna mislead you by telling you do this or don’t do this. I would say just strengthen your inner game and focus less on methods/rules.
/r/seduction06/06/25 12:06 AM
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Always have your place neat as if a woman comes over anytime. As far as drinks, dinner, or coffee it don’t really matter. I’ve had it happened occasionally during broad day light. Dinner can flop, coffee can turn into sex.
/r/seduction05/06/25 05:38 PM
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Everything sounds low self-esteem if you don’t say it right.
/r/seduction05/06/25 05:36 PM
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This is why I don’t find any religion compatible with modern life. Even mormon is viral with their soaking method lol. Always try to find a loophole, their subconscious probably tells them their god can be tricked.
/r/seduction05/06/25 05:35 PM
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Lay on the same day? Possible. Happened to me before few times. But percentage wise not a lot. The ideal one would be to turn the first meetup into an instadate. Or at least have sparks happening on the first meetup (bantering, flirting, teasing with each other), then the possibility of 2nd one is pretty high with my experience.
/r/seduction05/06/25 05:32 PM
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More like coping instead of medication. Lots of PUA’s ended up getting (more) depressed anyway, some of them even turned into incels. The stories are pretty common.
/r/seduction05/06/25 01:32 PM
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“Get in line lady, I’m not my type either.”
/r/seduction05/06/25 03:08 AM
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Rules are only good when you already have a foundation of social skillsets. They can enhance your game, and you can even pick and choose which ones work for you personally. But in a lot of cases (especially in this sub), you’d be surprised to read lots of “I have no friends”, “never have a gf”, “how to approach this woman at work/in class”, “there’s this girl I have a crush on but I never talk to her”, all implying that their social skills are pretty much non existent. When that happens, imagine…
/r/seduction05/06/25 02:16 AM
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When it comes to social skills, generally women are far ahead than men. Not to mention the way they carry themselves, their mannerism, etc. Skills are taught and practiced, not inherent. So imagine if their parents or teachers haven’t taught them anything about all these. It’s like you can read a whole novel without any problems, but the guy next to you is still trying to spell alphabets. That’s how vast the difference is.
/r/seduction04/06/25 12:20 PM
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If you’re friendly to them then they will consider you as a friend. The difference between you and your friends is they’re clear with their intention. People with “nice guys” attitude usually have a mindset thinking that their niceness is a tool to lure women in. Of course I’m not saying you can’t be nice or you need to be rude to them, but in your case where the girl vented out to you every single time, you put yourself in the friendzone, not her. You could’ve told her politely you don’t have t…
/r/seduction04/06/25 12:15 PM
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Escalation. Search it up in this sub there’s lots of good feedbacks and inputs. If you’re just being friendly and being a good conversationalist your chance to close it by asking her out is only 50:50 or even less. In her mind this is what usually happens: “he seems like a nice guy, I could see him being a good friend of mine but I don’t see myself going out with him.” Forget about getting her #, I mean yeah even with this kinda situation she’d most likely give you hers but that doesn’t mean any…
/r/seduction02/06/25 08:33 PM
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There’s a stage before closing.
/r/seduction02/06/25 08:22 PM
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I learned that guys who misinterpret stuff on seduction techniques or mindset or whatever accidentally do that because they just take the info as bullet points. It’s like a self-taught learning went wrong. Here are some examples I see irl: “Never chase women” misinterpreted as ignore them at all times. “you need to escalate” misinterpreted as calling them sexy, you got big melons, wanna fuck?, etc. “Stay within your frame” misinterpreted as being argumentative, show women who’s the man, too cock…
/r/seduction01/06/25 10:23 PM
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I would think not only guys like these have sub par social skills, they also have issues with reading comprehension.
/r/seduction01/06/25 11:22 AM
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Believe it or not, luck always plays a role in social dynamics. So many variables involved in human interactions, it’s pretty much like a butterfly effect. This is why there’s a lot of guys got their confidence wrecked once they no longer “score” it. It’s easy to be confident when you keep doing 3 points easily. But it’s good tho, it can give a sense of humility. This is why I don’t believe men have TOTAL control when it comes to dating, no matter how good they are. If they say they do then run …
/r/seduction01/06/25 10:49 AM
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Multitasking is an answer to many problems.
/r/seduction01/06/25 10:37 AM
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I tend to skip the “don’t do this, do this instead” and the “do’s and don’ts” of seduction articles. I think they’re just part of marketing gimmicks. But I found out that limiting beliefs come from society itself. Just for an example how many times I see people in this sub giving advices “don’t date your coworker” either coming from morality or legal ground. When it reality people sleep with their coworkers all the time. Either an actual date or an affair. It’s pretty common that people find the…
/r/seduction01/06/25 10:34 AM
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Nice observation and good take, OP! My minot disagreement is just on “women can smell…”. Anyways… IMO compliments are way overrated. They are and should be part of a small talk. Meaning they’re not supposed to be taken seriously. Like complimentary, a compliment is and should be free, thus cheap (in a positive way). You could compliment someone just in a second, you mean it but doesn’t mean you worship that person, and it doesn’t need a lot of efforts to do that, almost as easy as giving an upvo…
/r/seduction01/06/25 10:16 AM
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It’s pretty much the same thing with OLD, those women on dating apps are also strangers. There should be an initial attraction and ways to create the so-called sparks and chemistry to keep it going. Just go to subs I mentioned above, tons of screenshots of how people misread something or are clueless, or how they complain they feel like they just run in a circle, or how they claim the convo or even the 1st date went great then they got ghosted. In most cases the answers are about social skills.
/r/seduction01/06/25 01:18 AM
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Are you genuinely asking, or confirming your assumption/suspicion, or what? Because anecdotal evidences could be different for different people As for me here’s what I rate the easiness: Night game: the state of being on the same page (purposely looking for quick hookup for men and women, high adrenaline/dopamine, escapism) makes it the easiest. If you’re an experienced player and you can’t get any woman at any given night, I used to blatantly say you probably did some major fuckups. Day game: I…
/r/seduction01/06/25 12:04 AM
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The third week seems to be her turning point. You seemed to be chasing her and didn’t give her a space to even breathe after her hectic week. Before that happened I would’ve given her time to process everything and also invest in the relationship. At this point I’d just keep all options open.
/r/seduction31/05/25 02:40 PM
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Preferences are just… preferences. I prefer a $100 million mansion but if someone offers me a free airBnB stay for a weekend getaway, I’ll take it.
/r/seduction31/05/25 12:56 PM
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Gotcha. Idk about you, but I have a little sister in my entire life that her life mission is to push my button, and she thinks I’ve been doing the same exact thing to her. So I pretty much treat all women like her: I don’t take them seriously. I would just say “thank you” then smile or laugh regardless what the comment is. Or if you’re comfortable enough in your skin, you can just push her button back “do I remind you of your crush you can never have?” again, with a smile or a casual laugh. Eith…
/r/seduction31/05/25 12:33 PM
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How unusual are we talking about? Like any of mystery method, peacocking can only be pulled in a specific context. I remember him saying “if you can’t do it in a t-shirt, then you can’t do it” when talking about peacocking.
/r/seduction31/05/25 12:13 PM
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You’ve said the keyword in your post: structure. All of our activities have structures; even just for a small thing like driving a car. But most people don’t realize there’s a structure in driving a car because they do it so habitually. Or even like a song; there’s an intro, a verse, a chorus, a bridge then close it with an outro. Every song has these parts. Well not every song (“Tequila” song comes to mind haha). Now before I answer your question, lemme ask you to think about it: find out the s…
/r/seduction31/05/25 11:15 AM
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Needy is being serious, this is just a playful flirt.
/r/seduction31/05/25 11:08 AM
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The next few weeks were filled with… If I were a girl and a guy promised me “next time you’re in town, let me take you out” but it never materialized, I would bounce. The next few weeks is a few weeks too long. That reminds me of a girl I knew, she told me she just cut off a guy online because they never met even after a lengthy talk about wanting to meet up, she just doesn’t wanna waste her time. She’s even concerned that she might got used as a jerk-off material only. I don’t blame her.
/r/seduction31/05/25 03:39 AM
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It’s very common. The non-neediness attitude or vibe oozes from you. You don’t even have to act when you have the right mindset.
/r/seduction31/05/25 01:28 AM
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Yeah this is what a lot of guys got stuck with. To add on: Communication is part of the escalation, which is physical and verbal. Both can be done simultaneously. If you feel that “the convo is going nowhere” then you need to check with yourself whether you verbally escalate. If you just keep talking about general stuff, that means no escalation at all from your end. Besides escalation, you need to narrow it down. So not only you go up, you also need to go deep no pun intended. Yes, it kind does…
/r/seduction30/05/25 02:19 PM
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“I’m not feeling it. Let’s try again.” “Just messing with you. I felt it from the start, just wanted to get more kisses.”
/r/seduction30/05/25 09:14 AM
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You’re suffering from oneitis. That’s what you need to recover from.
/r/seduction30/05/25 12:38 AM
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Her photos only showed her face Lesson learned. Never trust “face only” pics.
/r/seduction29/05/25 01:58 PM
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The other day my work colleague who had a past with me told me “you’re being weird today” when we hung out after work. I know what she meant, because that day I barely talked to her even tho I saw her multiple times. I was just super busy it’s not that I purposely ignored her. But she was like on the bottom of the list when it comes to importance. I just replied “I’m weird everyday.” No need to say sorry, no need to explain.
/r/seduction29/05/25 08:46 AM
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I think any improv class would do. You can search them on Youtube, there’s a lot of improv practices. For example right on top of my head, search “Yes, and… improv”. If you wanna see how improv masters do some action check out “whose line is it anyway”.
/r/seduction27/05/25 11:51 PM
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It’s a double edge sword. On one hand yes it’s obvious it will increase it. But on the other hand, she’s most likely expecting higher standards from you. Here’s an example of what really happened to my friend: he posted all the events that he went to, hoping his crush will pay attention to them. Which is true. Both of them went out for a couple of dates; but long story short she thought that he’s up there financial and social wise. It’s not like she’s a gold digger, tho. She makes 6 figures, too…
/r/seduction27/05/25 05:11 PM
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If it doesn’t fit, spit on it. #rhymes
/r/seduction27/05/25 04:56 PM
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if there is any the point of gaming I’ve read it, too. Even before the book came out it’s pretty much well known there’s a dark side of the game. But it’s just like almost everything else whenever you’re too deep in the rabbit hole. Like if you joined a religious institution, or politics, or music/movie industry, and even sports.
/r/seduction27/05/25 01:31 PM
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You’re experiencing what’s called a holiday/travel fling. If I were you I wouldn’t take it seriously as you’ve said all cards stacked against you. Travel fling is kinda similar to having a quick hookup at a night club, typically the sparks are slowly gone afterwards. But if you still insist, I would rather fly to where she lives and spend few days there with her. Probably less money to spend (read: “invest”), too. But just throw her the idea first and see her reaction. It’s also good to make sur…
/r/seduction26/05/25 11:44 PM
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We can’t even ask them what they want for dinner.
/r/seduction26/05/25 01:05 PM
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I’ve often made remarks that make women laugh so hard, blushed, or jaw dropped. Put some comments regarding that in this sub but idk where they are lol. Of course it wasn’t because “I’m so good at it.” I’ve joined some improv classes and they helped me a lot. There’s this thing called a filler basically to “fill” in the void in between interactions. Just like what happened in your story when she was looking for her earpod and you just stared at her ass. Now that was a good void. These classes he…
/r/seduction25/05/25 11:13 PM
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I’ve personally met him. Yea he’s that tall. He’s also in the top bracket, money wise. If you watched his videos you know even if he wears just a shirt, that shirt alone costs around $3-500. These are the factors that are beyond your control. You can’t just say; be tall be rich be exotic and all that then women will flock to you. Well duh!
/r/seduction25/05/25 10:17 PM
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Gotcha! Did you send the text yet?
/r/seduction25/05/25 09:36 PM
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It’s all about improving skills, more reading and more practice that’s it. You know what they say, comparison is the thief of joy. Quit comparing yourself against others if that only breaks your confidence. You and them are probably around the same age, but I bet you they got a head start. Some people already flirt and even make out with girls their age when they were still in middle school. Like you said you’ve only been with 2 girls, but even in this sub there are guys who posted their problem…
/r/seduction25/05/25 05:05 PM
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The keywords right there “she stopped it”. She set her boundaries. The fact that you said you’re super confused means you’re not fully aware of the dynamics in this interaction.
/r/seduction25/05/25 02:33 PM
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Yeah my biggest pet peeve on questions being asked online “hey I have a problem with this person irl. Can you all random strangers tell me why he did what he did?” Like bro you’re the only person here who knows him why ask us?
/r/seduction25/05/25 12:57 PM
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FR are less common recently as most people don’t really relate to what you did in the field anyway. Imagine watching a movie then telling the plot to someone who hasn’t watched it. The vibe will be different. But in your specific case I think you take all information in the books quite literally like there’s no caveats at all. I think that’s where you’re mistaken. All social interactions are very contextual/situational. Let’s say for example the writer says “you can use this line in any situatio…
/r/seduction25/05/25 12:25 PM
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I mean go for it if you finally decided to actually set up the time and place. Maybe it will change her mood from being “shit, this guy is wasting my time” to “oh this guy is for real.” I’m rooting for you. Yeah next time don’t wait for more than a week. All online dating apps are about instant gratification. 2-3 days of banter and meetup! Bam! For some girls that’s even too slow. For quick hookup girls it’s either now, tonight, or tomorrow the latest. They’re horny af they’re picking guys like …
/r/seduction25/05/25 12:08 PM
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What is your purpose to double text? I mean if she hasn’t read the first one, what makes you think that the 2nd would be read by her ASAP? Or do you think the 2nd one will encourage her to read the first one like there’s some kind of mechanism in her cellphone that makes it keep ringing “you got more texts from him! More texts from him!”? i wouldn’t double text. If she hasn’t read the first one she wouldn’t read the 2nd one. Most double texts are just showing the woman you start getting clingy o…
/r/seduction25/05/25 11:57 AM
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All openers are good as long as you can read the room. You can’t just throw a witty/corny line if you don’t see her smile or being receptive to you. Not to mention the way you say it, too. This is why I wouldn’t recommend scripted/canned openers. Imagine throwing a “horn/halo” opener like you did and she said “what?” then you gotta repeat it. Maybe you said it too fast. Maybe you’re not smiling when you said it. Maybe she’s not paying attention to you. Maybe she’s not in the right mood for corny…
/r/seduction25/05/25 11:32 AM
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It’s just clear as day. Having a guy wingman is always good as long as he understands the assignment. But having a wingwoman? It’s like she just passes you the ball and you’re halfway up in the air for an easy dunk.
/r/seduction25/05/25 02:50 AM
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Look, it’s not rocket science and it’s not even needing a will power to solve this problem. It’s basically 2 different of mindsets: Impressing her vs Expressing yourself When you feel stressed out and frustrated that she doesn’t reply your text or reciprocate, that just means that you are trying to impress her. You are a dancing monkey waiting to be reviewed and judged by her. Like a contestant of American Idol biting their nails because they’re desperate to know whether they got flunked or pass…
/r/seduction24/05/25 07:09 PM
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You can do it simultaneously. There’s usually no clear pivot hence the slow burning. And this is good for both of you to also give her ample time/opportunity to reciprocate.
/r/seduction24/05/25 02:58 PM
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It’s so true about “assigning labels.” We gotta admit that labels are in demand because of (social) pressures. People pursue the label more instead of the quality of the relationship. This is why all those “looking for a serious relationship” announcement is really weird for me. As if we are still living in an 16th century and a king’s daughter was looking for her prince charming. “Hear ye hear ye I’m approaching 30 and I’m pressured to get married and give grandkids to the king.” Apart from the…
/r/seduction24/05/25 10:42 AM
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I wouldn’t call it self rejection. Not everyone has to be compatible with us. And that’s okay. Doesn’t mean we are wrong or we are a loser. Doesn’t mean they are not “buying it” or they are a winner. This is why you can only step forwards so far but have to stop at your own boundaries instead of doubling it down, and give her an opportunity to reciprocate. If she doesn’t then just move on.
/r/seduction24/05/25 10:34 AM
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Nah people aren’t houses or cars. If you say that shit on women they be like “you’re objectifying women!”
/r/seduction24/05/25 10:15 AM
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No such thing as “organically”. Give me an example of an organic one and I’ll show you why that it isn’t.
/r/seduction24/05/25 10:02 AM
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Reading your posts -not just this one- and you saying you feeling unlovable, I don’t think being good at the game will solve your problem. You need some fundamental change, mindset-wise.
/r/seduction24/05/25 09:55 AM
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Nah I rarely agree with OP but I agree with this one. A lot of people just want the status of the relationship without even trying to see if they are compatible. Here’s what I found most of the time: A guy and a girl both want a serious relationship; but they find out they’re not really compatible after dating for months. In most cases they settle down. Just because “I’m no longer single / now I have someone in my life / now people won’t judge me.” A guy and a girl only want casual ones. But aft…
/r/seduction24/05/25 09:50 AM
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In a social circle I always use a slow burning method. You will see her regularly, anyway. No need to “cold approach” her. But yes you should introduce yourself and strike a convo, there’s gotta be an initial interaction even tho you don’t do direct approach. I would also do the same to few others in the same group. If she’s attractive enough you might have a competition in there that you don’t know, or some other girls always pay attention to her (jealousy, etc). By also talking to other people…
/r/seduction24/05/25 01:24 AM
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How much price reduction did you give her?
/r/seduction24/05/25 12:02 AM
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I’m a small-talk hater. To me not only they’re bland and boring, but they’re also fake/superficial. But if you know me irl, you would think that I love small talks. In my mind whenever I do a small talk: Literally there are some options in my head on how to response: “I’m great, you?”, “fine, what about you?” Stuff like that. But occasionally I tease them by choosing an option that people don’t really hear that often: “I’ll be okay” or “could’ve been better.” The reason? I just wanna see and hea…
/r/seduction23/05/25 11:08 PM
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Tbh I’m a silent lurker on the PPB sub and I don’t find the girls that guys dated overseas are that attractive. Maybe like a 5 or a 6. And they proudly show them online. I mean, whatever float your goat. It’s just kinda saddening that it was revealed to me that these guys can’t even be looked at by a 5 or a 6 in their home country. You said supply and demand. But I look at it as trying to play the game on easy mode. They changed the setting from advance to easy mode, so you can level up. Technic…
/r/seduction21/05/25 10:44 PM
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IMO there are 3 opinions regarding looks: “Looks don’t matter”: these guys who have this opinion are a few in my opinion, yes there’s an exception with some men they have charisma and confidence even tho they’re not even average looking. They’ve slept with lots of women and at times are good with manipulation game. But I can count with my right fingers how many said that looks don’t matter. Even if there are some cases where looks really don’t matter, they’d be an outlier. “Yes looks matter sign…
/r/seduction21/05/25 10:31 PM
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Most cases in this sub are guys who just got infatuated with a girl for a short period of time, usually days or a few weeks. Either they misinterpret the signals given by her, being played, or straight ghosted by her. In this situation it’s almost always better to get a reality check and quit wasting time. I wouldn’t tell people to leave, break up, or get a divorce if they are in a relationship especially a long one (months or years). But this kinda advices are paramount in other subs (am i over…
/r/seduction20/05/25 08:58 PM
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“Come here, sit with me. Anything interesting so far today?” It doesn’t have to be this exact line, but you get the gist. The key is to have her open up (more) and talk about herself or her life. People especially women love talking about themselves. Then you just do the active listening. You don’t even have to search for topics to talk about, let her do that and you just respond to what she says. The “come here”, “sit with me” or “talk to me” are also important. First because it’s a bit of comp…
/r/seduction20/05/25 01:15 PM
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If both of you are adults then no you’re not wrong. Adults have sex that’s what we do. We make sex sounds like it’s a crime, acting like “oh imagine my dad and mom have sex, so disgusting!” Well duh, how did you come to this world then? I think this is one of the mindsets from when we were kids or young teen, treating sex like a crime, disgusting, or something that is always taken advantage of. Adults need to normalize “my mom and my dad have sex” or “my friend has sex with my brother/sister.” A…
/r/seduction19/05/25 03:35 AM
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Like Ross Jeffries often says, if you’re opted to see what women say and what women do then the latter is always superior. Being complicated or borderline hypocrites are not only exclusive to women, but humans in general. You can have their mind changed to seeing an ONS as a possibility, even tho they won’t openly admit it. Like hey everyone wants to have a fancy, great quality dinner, but if you can’t have it today, a chick-fill-a chicken sandwich is not a bad idea, either. Everyone needs to ea…
/r/seduction19/05/25 02:53 AM
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Confront her as if she did something wrong? Your insecurity is not her problem. 24-36 hrs maybe too long for some people, but people got things to do, too. But if you think that’s too long and she’s not actually busy, ask yourself why she may not be as interested as you would hope in replying your texts. Guys are always told to not reply too fast (the infamous “wait 2-3 days to reply” rule) simply because women have mastered the game and we basically just copy and paste their game. So imagine yo…
/r/seduction18/05/25 11:30 PM
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If you listen more, you will talk less. That’s just the way it is.
/r/seduction18/05/25 06:51 PM
1

Have you tried not using Cialis as you now are starting to get used to sex?
/r/seduction18/05/25 05:07 PM
2

Imo dating rules are always heavily based on context. If the context is like what you stated in your post, I’d say it’s okay to ignore her question. It sounds like she just tried to start a small talk, not really throwing a question needed to be answered. Like you said she was surprised she didn’t see you coming.
/r/seduction18/05/25 05:02 PM
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I would just keep her within reach, as expanding social circle is always good. Anyway, do you think she could see you as her potential client?
/r/seduction18/05/25 02:11 PM
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Typically when girls say “I thought…” just consider it as a casual or even a playful banter. You could reply with “I get that a lot, my cute face is really deceiving” or “well, I thought you were 30” of course in a casual and playful manner as well; put a smile on your face. The vibe changed because you made it weird about it, maybe because your self esteem got shaken by that small thing. I’d work on that part. It’s never about the age gap, it’s always about the self esteem.
/r/seduction18/05/25 12:01 PM
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To be honest, the inner game plays a big role in dating, if not biggest. You can act cool or busy (ie: slow replies) but after all it’s just an act if you don’t have a proper mindset to begin with. As a matter of fact, you can even do this “only text or reply 2-3 days after dating” tactic, but your neediness often shows when you go out with her. So when you wanna pull this act, you’d be surprised that it’s actually already too late. She already knew you’re needy the first 15-30 minutes of the co…
/r/seduction18/05/25 01:18 AM
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Most cold approaches that work are indirect ones. You can’t just tell her she’s cute/sexy and ask her out right away (few exceptions; night games). In a way yes it sounds like a salesperson, but there’s not much room to maneuver that you try to oversell yourself. Within 5-10 mins what you need to do is just basically to build a good rapport. That’s about it.
/r/seduction17/05/25 05:22 PM
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Go look up “opposite to emotion action”. Basically do the opposite what your emotion dictates you. This is why whenever we feel sad (especially for no reason) we shouldn’t listen to sad or mellow songs. Or when you don’t feel like going for a walk or just want to isolate yourself at home, then that’s exactly the reason why you should go for a walk outside.
/r/seduction16/05/25 11:55 PM
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I feel like sometimes “approach anxiety” is something that is so abstract that we don’t know how to tackle it, but in reality maybe it’s all because of the familiarity and the skillset you own. Imagine if you see your friend on a 10 meter diving board in a swimming pool. He’s so relaxed jumping off that high, while you can’t even do the 3 meter one. But what he didn’t tell you is he’s able to jump from 10 meter high because he’s already mastered the 1, 3, 5, and 7 meter heights all these years. …
/r/seduction14/05/25 01:17 AM
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“We got close very quickly” There’s your answer.
/r/seduction14/05/25 12:09 AM
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She’s not feeling it just because the way you hugged her? LoL gosh people these days man. If I were her I’d be like “hey come here lemme show you how to give a hug in a better way.” To me that is just one of the tolerable flaws that people can easily use to dismiss others as if they have unlimited options. At times they also don’t realize they’re full of flaws as well. It’s okay to make peace, but you seem to be the type of guy who doesn’t speak up his mind right away, who prefers to receive and…
/r/seduction12/05/25 07:03 PM
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Kissing is much easier when you both are hugging. At that point you just need a little nudge since the only body parts that are not touching each other is your and her heads. In my own experience 9 out of 10 I don’t even have to ask as our cheeks or our heads are slowly getting closer and touching each other.
/r/seduction12/05/25 04:54 AM
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Hot + cold in my experience usually means she’s not interested enough as she has other guys in her roster. When she’s hot to you, that means she’s being cold to the other guy (maybe have a fight, or being ignored by him or busted him talking to another girl). When she’s cold or even disappear for days, maybe she’s busy…. getting railed by another guy or going on a short getaway trip with him.
/r/seduction11/05/25 06:35 AM
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A rehearsed line will need another rehearsed line. Just like forms in traditional martial arts. That’s why it’s not effective. Pay attention to this: Let’s say you have a scripted opener. You opened with that. The girl in front of you will have multiple options to reply your opener with. Let’s say she has 4-5 options of replies she could choose from. Then you gotta be ready to tackle or block each one of them (just like in martial arts). So from 1 opener line, you will need 4-5 more rehearsed li…
/r/seduction11/05/25 05:58 AM
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I get it I was in your place before. People get scared easily for something they’re not familiar with. So the key is to be familiar, not with just talking to her. But talking to people in general. Guys like you basically don’t have enough social skills to begin with. Start from there. Talk to random people; guys, older ladies, anyone. It takes practices. Then by doing that all your worries will slowly disappear.
/r/seduction11/05/25 05:47 AM
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The way I look at it, scripted or canned lines are pretty much like forms in traditional martial arts (karate, taekwondo, aikido) where you gotta memorize them and could be helpful to prep your posture but when it comes to sparring or even real fight, they’re pretty much useless.
/r/seduction11/05/25 05:24 AM
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Have you ever timed yourself whenever you talk to someone? Like how long you talked to each other? Give it a try. You’re worried about store is too small, the owner is there, so what? Talk to her. I don’t think the store owner would care if you only take 1-2 mins talking to her. That’s what I meant by timing it. Obviously you don’t open it by a direct tease “hey beautiful.” Just make a regular small talk like you would to anyone. She’s still gonna be there and you’re still gonna buy something at…
/r/seduction11/05/25 04:46 AM
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Human interactions are weird at times. By weird I mean it’s gotta click like in a goldilocks zone of the solar system (yeah I’m a nerd lol) otherwise it wouldn’t continue to exist. Lemme elaborate. I think flirting is one of things people fail to grasp. It’s delicate enough that if you do it too subtle then your counterpart might miss it, but if you do it too harsh then you’d come across as an insensitive person. This is why some people incorrectly think someone flirts with them just because she…
/r/seduction11/05/25 12:13 AM
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I feel like meeting girls in run clubs or social activity clubs is not true cold approach. Your quick objective doing a cold approach within minutes of your small talk is to find out whether both of you got things in common so the convo could flow. So if you want to be technically accurate, those first few minutes are the only difference whether you approach a stranger at a park or whether you and that stranger are already in a social club.
/r/seduction10/05/25 04:51 PM
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So it has nothing to do with age? I apologize I took it the wrong way. I would assume that university environment is more conducive for you to strike up a conversation and people there typically get receptive better than in other environments?
/r/seduction10/05/25 04:29 PM
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Everything in life is risky. You can drive a car and got hit by another car. You can walk in a park and feel safe then an unleashed dog with rabies can run toward you and bite you in the leg. Everything in life is basically transactional. You got good grades then you got good school. You have good performance at work then you got promoted and got paid more. It’s reward and punishment system, stick and carrot. The reason why society deems prostitution is bad, I think it’s just because the transac…
/r/seduction10/05/25 04:19 PM
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Idk what your question is related to OP’s post. But I’ll try to answer. Ideally yes you’re right I totally agree with you. But….come to think of it, how do people in the suburbs, in the middle of nowhere, or even people in wheelchairs, get laid or even get married. There’s gotta be something to offer in order to get something in return, to put it on the extreme: even if it’s just their boring presence, or for the sake of having a relationship aka social status. Someone’s trash can be another’s t…
/r/seduction10/05/25 04:08 PM
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It’s not as a big problem as you think. My advice is don’t dwell on it and start adapting to your new skin. A problem will just feel bigger if you keep stressing about it. I was a dork fat kid in elementary school. In middle-high school got hit with an acne problem. Slowly in college I became skinny fit (maybe activities and stuff) that’s how I knew about ugly duckling as I was one of them. I started to learn about fashion and self grooming and go to the gym. Then joined the service, got even be…
/r/seduction10/05/25 03:37 PM
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Your physical and mental images don’t match. You have described why and how it happened, so you’re basically just venting out. Your experience is actually pretty common among people who have “ugly duckling” syndrome. Look it up.
/r/seduction10/05/25 02:59 PM
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Approaching people 10+ years younger than you is typically much easier as the power dynamics, the confidence level, and the interaction are pretty much tilted toward the older party. This applies to both men and women. This is why there are young guys in this sub asking on how to approach older women (20-30 years older, even). It’s kinda similar to how passport bros operate, they want to play the “easy mode” game as they always fail whenever they try the intermediate or hard level one. In their …
/r/seduction10/05/25 02:37 PM
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Yeah, an ohio9 or an iowa10 if they moved to LA can automatically get downgraded to LA6 or LA7 just by the location. The competition among girls on big cities is fierce borderline scary. But LA10 or NYC10 are really up there, they’re really aware of their higher value.
/r/seduction10/05/25 02:25 PM
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I did if you read my comment. I’ve been in his shoes yet I have approached countless (possibly hundreds) of women in public over the years. I wouldn’t argue with the OP because to me it’s useless as he hasn’t been in my shoes. Whether she’s extremely hot, average, a target employee, with a kid, without a kid, to me the situation is the same: that he has an approach anxiety that made him overthink and decided to not approach. But in his last reply to me he said “it’s the situation” which I respec…
/r/seduction09/05/25 11:10 PM
1

Did you count how many times the words attractive, gorgeous, classy, elegant, appear in his post? Or he just used those words for decoration?
/r/seduction09/05/25 10:30 PM
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You saying that she’s elegant and attractive multiple times clearly indicates you’re intimidated by her looks. Imagine approaching an average looking woman, would you feel as nervous? Or let take the bar lower, say that the woman is actually working at Target and you happen to need some assistance, would you feel nervous? A cold approach is basically that, an approach. Yes looks can be intimidating. That’s what happens most of the time. But it shouldn’t be that way. Whether she looks very attrac…
/r/seduction09/05/25 10:02 PM
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A lot of guys (including me in the past) incorrectly assume that getting a girl’s number or her insta is the goal. Yes it could be, but only partially correct. There were some instances in the past where I seen a guy in a club having a smirk in his face then telling his friends that he got her number. While I see the girl from afar just being idle, waiting for him to take some action but it never happened. When you’re actually physically interacting with a girl, you gotta be aware that it’s the …
/r/seduction09/05/25 07:29 PM
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Idk never try it and I’m not a girl lol. Sex is exhausting tbh especially if you’re not fit. I remember there were viral videos in the past of some women trying to act like a man (sex position wise) being on top/missionary, they can’t even last a few minutes without complaining how it’s tiresome for them.
/r/seduction09/05/25 07:12 PM
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It’d be better if you show us how you talked to these women. That might be something wrong on your end if this is becoming a pattern. The fact that all that happened before the meetup/date means that all the convos happened online. That’s the thing with online convos; no facial expression and the possibility of sending a wrong vibe is big, too. But of course there are some occasions that I saw from guys who pm’ed me and showed me the convo, it took me by surprise when I read “you must be wild in…
/r/seduction09/05/25 03:29 PM
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Well congrats! But how did your friend know that you’re well endowed? LoL
/r/seduction09/05/25 01:04 PM
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STD’s are rampant in nursing homes in the US. If 80-90’s year old people still do hookups, there’s no excuse for 40-50 year old ones.
/r/seduction09/05/25 12:28 PM
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They tend to cut to the chase. Which is actually an ideal thing to do: only use text/msg as a tool to get the logistics ready for the meetup. I read more and more cases in this sub where guys wanna play around more with texts and got crushed when being left on sent/read. I assume part of it because even women don’t like a boring small talk yet guys are still in the “trying to figure out” phase. Or maybe some people get off just by reading a woman’s text lol.
/r/seduction09/05/25 12:25 PM
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Search “branching our conversation” and “escalation” in this sub.
/r/seduction09/05/25 12:14 PM
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The simpler the better and the situational opener works best than a straight compliment: “Hey you look familiar” “I like your outfit/sneakers/watch” “Is that what I think it is?” Pointing to her watch or whatever “I know this is kinda random.” You sound like you talk to yourself trying to give yourself a good excuse instead of actually talking to her. She never says anything about whether what you’re doing is random or not. Even if you wanna lower her guard, the false time restraint works better…
/r/seduction08/05/25 11:39 PM
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I wouldn’t say Always. But most of the time that’s what happens. I’ve hung out a few times with female colleagues, that’s what they talked about before we headed for a club or a bar. They have some codes basically to “please save me”, like rubbing their ear or scratching their eyebrow, or even texting each other. Even at times they asked me or other guy friends to act like their bf. Basically if we come in as a group, we protect each other. Unless of course we just wanna find a quick hookup. But…
/r/seduction07/05/25 09:25 PM
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You have a relationship with another individual, not with yourself; hiccups, commotions, and conflicts are inevitable. In fact they will spice things up. Embrace them.
/r/seduction07/05/25 09:13 PM
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I’ve slept with more women who didn’t give me a sign initially than the ones who smiled and made an eye contact. I learned that most guys when they see a woman they like, they smile and give that certain eye contact. Women? Most of them smile and make eye contact just because they’re trying to be courteous. This is why there’s a mismatch. When a woman and a men smile and look at each other, the man thinks she likes him while the woman thinks he’s being nice so she should be nice to him, too. My …
/r/seduction07/05/25 09:05 PM
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Most of the stuff PUA’s pick are from psychology field, including this one. Being congruent doesn’t (only) mean you should be honest with yourself. But it means all aspects of your life are aligned and harmonious: Mental - body - spirit, or… actual self vs ideal self. I think your true problem is not about your understanding, but you’re simply overworked. When you’re overworked you’re on one extreme side, meaning you’re not congruent. Just because you say “I’m freaking tired” doesn’t automatical…
/r/seduction07/05/25 08:56 PM
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Yes. Also I often suggest an improv class. Most comics/standup comedians or actors I know have done that type of class. This is why it’s easy for them to do a crowd work. Or watch “whose line is it anyway” shows and you can see how many of them can just be given a short line or topic and they can improv on the spot.
/r/seduction07/05/25 05:07 PM
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Gotta read it the second time while playing this lol. Idk man, maybe pay her a visit and ask her if she’s still single. Then if she asks you why, just tell her that she’s attractive. See how she reacts. It’s a risky game. She could be doing it while asking you “promise you don’t tell anyone” or she could just call your uncle and then you’re known as the pervert in the family.
/r/seduction06/05/25 09:57 PM
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But we don’t see their roster lol. Maybe there’s others but you could be like #1-2 in the waiting list. In the end I wouldn’t sweat it. This is why we have our roster, too.
/r/seduction06/05/25 09:51 PM
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Wait until a girl gives you head or when you’re having sex with her and out of nowhere you say “I love you” lol
/r/seduction06/05/25 09:48 PM
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It’s their coping mechanism. Can’t blame them. But in my experience there’s not many of them.
/r/seduction06/05/25 09:41 PM
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I never got a shit test from a woman (old) before the first date/meetup. I’d guess they’re just reorganizing their roster. If they never did come back to you to set date, I would say they put you in the bench. When you asked them again, then they moved you in to replace the one that they crossed out.
/r/seduction06/05/25 09:38 PM
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Don’t listen to what a woman says, but pay attention to what she does. I stopped counting how many women have told me they love their husbands or BF’s, they said they despise people who are cheating, but they ended up sleeping with me. One even did it with me in her living room while her husband snoring in their bed.
/r/seduction06/05/25 05:18 PM
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If you approach a woman and she feels uncomfortable, then you’re doing it wrong. It’s always about the how, not the what. If you’re a regular then it’d be better if you treat her like part of your circle. Get acquainted with her. Open up to her a bit to encourage her do the same; telling her what you do for work, what you do on your day off. And see how things go from there. If she doesn’t reciprocate then I’d move on. But if she does I would move forward by bringing up stuff you have planned on…
/r/seduction06/05/25 01:29 AM
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It’s both. The escalation is clear if you pay attention. You move 1 step forward, then she reciprocates by also moving 1 step forward. Very rare that it’s spontaneous like in a movie. The compliant test I do works 9 out of 10 “come here, gimme a hug” if she declines then I step backward and reroute. But if she gives me a hug then it’s a good sign to keep escalating. Other occasions it starts gradually from holding hands, slight touches here and there, to her grabbing my arms or me putting my han…
/r/seduction06/05/25 01:06 AM
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You already have the mindset of willing to spend lots of money to fly in a girl from another country. That’s just a bad move, imo. Hot women are everywhere around you, just open your eyes and pay attention. The reason why people wanna become a passport bro or import a foreign girl is because they can’t stand the shit tests and the shallow thinking and materialistic attitude thrown by girls (especially americans). You gotta work on your personality traits to not be easily shaken by all that noise…
/r/seduction05/05/25 03:56 PM
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You do not leave a note when you can verbally talk to a woman. This is what happens when hollywood movies are the only ones teaching men about seduction. Talk. Talk. Talk.
/r/seduction05/05/25 03:35 PM
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You already sound weird.
/r/seduction05/05/25 12:28 PM
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But you need confidence to achieve success lol. And you build confidence with success? It almost feels like “we are hiring! fresh grads welcome and job experience required!” 🤔
/r/seduction05/05/25 02:47 AM
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She already said she’s being a good girl and a little girl. So she knows what’s up. I even suspect she has a kink on bigger guys like you. Just get ready to fold her and rearrange her guts. But be very careful tho, don’t break any bones.
/r/seduction05/05/25 01:18 AM
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No it’s not a good idea. This is actually a good practice for you to accept a reality that someone you like doesn’t like you back. Moving forward there will be lots of things in life that will shake your self esteem or don’t give you what you expect. Learn how to accept it in your mind as a bitter reality and move on. That’s just leaving you “on read”. Imagine if the girl is your classmate or your coworker that you see every day. Are you gonna avoid her every single day? Of course not. Put that …
/r/seduction04/05/25 06:51 PM
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I don’t have any specific routines. My opener is pretty much situational and I just wing it from there.
/r/seduction04/05/25 06:24 PM
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I hear you, man. I struggled with that years ago. First I thought it was just enlightening to me that guys have to jump through hoops in order to mate. I felt like the world is not fair. Then I read online everywhere a lot of guys complained about the same thing. Turned out I wasn’t special or smart enough that I’m the only one who’s aware about this. I then slowly accepted that it’s a reality of how life is. Yes it’s not fair. But it’s reality. If I could say it harshly, it sounds pretty simila…
/r/seduction04/05/25 06:19 PM
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Since you’re pretty fascinated to Mystery Methods, I’ll give you the easy summary. His methods are basically 3 steps: Opening Attract Close Steps #1 and #3 are actually easy. The struggle most guys fail at is obviously on step #2. So you can’t jump straight to any gambits (including kiss gambit) if you don’t survive in #2. Most of the lingos and terms that PUA have are on step 2; which makes sense. From DHV, IoI, escalate, neg. This is what you gotta master first. Once she reciprocates/responds …
/r/seduction04/05/25 04:41 PM
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Firmly. LoL. If you’re not used to it ask your friend to have a staring contest with you. If your friend is a girl that’d be ideal. You don’t have to literally focus on her eyes. You can see the tip of her nose or the point between her eyebrows right above the nose (called glabella or yin tang), the effect would be the same. That’s where the location of the “third eye” is. As a matter of fact, bring up the third eye topic when you talk to a woman. It’s a fascinating story. It will give you an op…
/r/seduction04/05/25 04:09 PM
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Amog, the real shit test lol.
/r/seduction04/05/25 03:20 PM
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The latter. People in muslim countries also have sex and get married. You exist because your parents had sex. Imagine that. You said they don’t believe in arranged marriages so there you go. Yes it’s worth it, people have been doing it for ages. People have biological needs to be fulfilled. How did you fill this need so far? You’re 20 years old but you sound like you just came back home from a (relationship) war. “All these girls are the same”, “all these guys are simps”, “my country sucks ass”,…
/r/seduction04/05/25 01:24 PM
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Like the other commenters said, escalate fast. Verbally and physically. Don’t focus on getting her number especially on a night game. You gotta go past numbers close; set your goal to at least kiss close on the spot. I wouldn’t even ask a girl’s number in a club. Fuck that. 99% it’s useless. It’s a “do or die” situation on a night game, whether you make out on the spot or not. There is no “call me tomorrow, ok?” It’s giving a false hope from her end. Not to mention the vibe of a guy asking her n…
/r/seduction04/05/25 12:52 PM
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I befriended one of Mystery’s students years ago. I knew all about pickups from him. When it comes to night games, you would think that it was fun and relaxed. Well that part was true, but that’s only the half part. The other part was it was also intense and adrenaline pumping. It felt like a guerrilla war, infiltrating beyond enemy’s line. This is why when I did my early night game, I had to go to sleep or take a nap on Friday afternoon for at least 3-4 hours. Woke up at 7-8 pm and get ready. O…
/r/seduction04/05/25 01:41 AM
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It’s called intrusive thoughts of doubt. Yes you can have self doubt in your head while physically walking toward her. But those thoughts could also appear while you’re talking to her. So it doesn’t matter whether within 3 seconds you gotta be next to her. The thing about these thoughts is people forget that they can control them. Not the other way around (unless it’s persistent then you might have a mental health issue). Just because they pop up in our head doesn’t mean that we should do what t…
/r/seduction04/05/25 12:44 AM
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“3 seconds” means after you saw her you gotta decide within 3 seconds whether to approach her. NOT that you have to be next to her in 3 seconds lol. You’re not the Flash or QuickSilver. Cmon man. If you say to yourself “this can’t be it, it doesn’t make sense” you gotta think there must be another way to see it. Have you built an Ikea furniture?
/r/seduction03/05/25 11:54 PM
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Nah, cancel the date and stay away from her. It was a date, not a “lemme introduce you to my friend” event.
/r/seduction03/05/25 09:47 PM
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I wouldn’t say his infield was really bad, maybe not impressive but yeah. The old time PUA’s had that kinda mindset of “numbers game”, not just about getting the probability higher but literally having a goal to get a woman’s number. This is why Paul Janka just did hit and run most of the time; 4-5 mins, numbers closing and leave. Then he will call her at night hoping they will meet again. Remember he also claims his lay number is only 3-4% if I’m not mistaken. So if he said he’s slept with more…
/r/seduction03/05/25 01:43 PM
1

The only tip I’d give is not in the form of money.
/r/seduction03/05/25 12:21 PM
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Keeping the sparks is easy when you’re still in the honeymoon phase (typically 3-6 months). Lots of hormones involved. Wait until you’re past that then the real relationship begins. I would say just be honest with yourself and with her as early as possible. I’ve seen guys end up becoming the orbiter because the girl is dominant. Why? Well he let her be like that in the beginning, by always trying to pander. “Oh you love reading books? Me, too!” (No you don’t Greg. You love watching anime and por…
/r/seduction02/05/25 12:35 AM
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People go to bars to drink, so as long as you’re of legal drinking age you should be fine. But if you ask a bar’s demographics then it really depends on the bar. You’re still in your mid 20’s you should blend in well with all other customers.
/r/seduction02/05/25 12:19 AM
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That’s the thing about it. Been doing cold approaches ME and also in US suburbs. It’s pretty much the same thing that most people don’t care if you approach a stranger. But specially in these areas, you don’t approach a woman by directly asking her number or giving her a compliment or being flirtatious. If you did that you really give out the “hitting on” vibe. Just talk to her about something (what she’s buying, where she’s going to, etc), as if you’re not really interested in her looks but mor…
/r/seduction02/05/25 12:06 AM
1

Have you tried a cold approach?
/r/seduction01/05/25 10:29 PM
21

You’ve probably heard “don’t put all your eggs in one basket” as a sound investment advice. It’s pretty much the same with dating and relationship. Oneitis is basically that: putting all your eggs in 1 basket. You can either do rotation and invest in other girls, or even if you only have 1 girl: then don’t get invested/catch feelings too early. Guard your heart. Be honest with yourself: you only knew her in a short time, so she’s still technically a stranger. Don’t act as if you’ve been exclusiv…
/r/seduction30/04/25 03:19 AM
3

Google “branching out conversation” or you can search it in this sub.
/r/seduction29/04/25 10:45 PM
1

It’s called giving it a try. I’ve tried approaching 3 sets like 5-6 times and every time it failed. So I know my limit is only 2 sets. I believe I can do it because I’ve seen guys do it. It’s not like it’s defying rules of nature like elevating up in the air lol. But at the same time I know that’s where my limit is because I have tried several times. I just need to figure out how to do it differently.
/r/seduction29/04/25 02:47 PM
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Plus a flower and a box of chocolates please. God damn. She might be crying a guy she has crushed on just hurt or rejected her. Imagine she’s willing to spread her legs once he told her to come over. Leaving you and your note.
/r/seduction29/04/25 02:39 PM
3

An opener is just to open. As long as it doesn’t come on too strong, any simple opener is okay especially if you’re a beginner. Even tho I personally prefer a situational opener. Ask any women if they remember what you opened with, most of them would say no. They remember what you make them feel and what the convo was about in general.
/r/seduction29/04/25 10:49 AM
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It was only 1 sample, you can’t draw a conclusion just from that. This is why you need to do cold approaches. If it’s repeated and becomes a pattern then yes maybe it’s you. But until then, don’t be too hard on yourself.
/r/seduction28/04/25 08:51 PM
3

Imagine if you wanna go out with someone but she said “can my mom/sis come along?” That’s pretty similar to what you’re going through. You can’t escalate/move forward if there’s always friends around. Talk to her, text her, ask her to go with you to grab a coffee, some lunch, a breakfast on a weekend morning. Or ask her to accompany you run some errands (grocery shopping, washing your car, picking up some dry cleaning or packages in a post office). So the initial intention is not dating. But jus…
/r/seduction28/04/25 08:39 PM
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That’s a feminine energy you have right there. That reminds me of my colleague just an hour ago reply to her hubby on the phone “I miss you, too” but she rolled her eyes when saying that. I was like “I saw that” and gave her a smile. She goes “yeah I hate when I had to reply his love talks. It’s not like I don’t love him. But I just talked to him an hour ago!” Bro, when it comes to being romantic etc, don’t do it too much. You’d make her feel that you took her role. Give her rooms to express her…
/r/seduction28/04/25 05:36 PM
2

If she doesn’t look in a hurry I’d take my shot. Option A is good, B and C are no go. This is why 3 seconds rule is good to be quick. No need to second or third think. Sometimes in moments like this I don’t even care about the opener. Say something cheesy like “Did I meet you from somewhere? You look familiar” or “Liz, right? You’re my sister’s friend” or “I think I saw you the other day.” Even if she gets irritated after you approach her so what. It’s always better than not doing it than having…
/r/seduction28/04/25 05:19 PM
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Those 2 are extreme; just look good or presentable. You don’t wanna look like a bum like you haven’t showered in 3 days, or look like a bar manager with a suit and a tie on when you do a daygame for example.
/r/seduction28/04/25 02:18 PM
2

There’s no “fun for both of us” when you wingman someone. You just put him a spotlight and that’s it. You don’t share a spotlight with him. Not to mention the woman might feel awkward that you’re also there the whole time.
/r/seduction28/04/25 11:04 AM
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How old are you, anyway? I suspect the age gap might be pretty big that it becomes your concern subconsciously. Typically if a man is only 5-7 years older than the girl, he wouldn’t see that as a big deal. (”Hell yeah bring it on, I can still compete with 20-25 year old guys”). Also: do you guys live together? Or even in the same city? I found it odd that she told you she likes to do staring contests with men but you never caught her doing that in front of you? Or talking about her being shy ove…
/r/seduction28/04/25 03:21 AM
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Keywords: comfort zone. Similar to why people who broke up or got divorced can easily go to a gym and start focusing on their life. Or why guys who got rejected by a girl decided to redo every aspect of his life and start doing cold approaches. Or why people who got called fat will get sad and cry but decided to lose weight. If nothing threatens your comfort zone, then nothing else can make you do a major life change.
/r/seduction27/04/25 06:35 PM
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When someone falls in love too quickly like your case (you said you fell in love the same weekend you met her, go figure), it typically happens when he already has the good ideation of her. Meaning that you’ve fallen in love with the images you’ve created in your head, not with her actual self. The clue that you gave in your post was: she became distant after you froze up. Now put yourself in her shoes, or flip the scenario. What if she’s the one who froze up in front of you, would you change yo…
/r/seduction27/04/25 05:21 PM
1

You are petty. First you guessed it wrong, you thought she liked you. But she rejected you. Then you started again thinking “oh she notices everything”, “oh she looks sad when I talked to another woman.” All this stuff happened in your head. The only thing that happened OUTSIDE your head is she rejected you. And what do your and her birthday have anything to do with the interactions? How old are you both? It’s a childish thinking that a birthday should be so special that “I have to wish her a ha…
/r/seduction27/04/25 01:30 PM
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If you have enough savings why not? Met some guys who did exactly like that. I mean of course not to specifically meet girls but to go places for months, even 1 guy took a whole year. Eventually you’d get bored and need to go back to your old routines (having a job, etc). But if you feel like you need that break, then take it.
/r/seduction27/04/25 01:22 PM
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Just play along: “Oh I didn’t know you’re jealous” “Actually I approached her to get to know you” “I like it when you’re feisty like this, big dick energy” “Awrrrrrr…” yeah roll that big R. “You can join us, too if you want”
/r/seduction26/04/25 03:21 PM
5

Have you noticed that people who feel hurt the most in a breakup is the ones who have given more love, more efforts and investments in the relationship? I think it’s the same thing with the rejection when approaching. Kinda like newtonian law (for you nerds) but it’s metaphorically of course. The same amount of energy you gave can be redirected back at you. So the more you try, the more pain you might feel when you get rejected. When you approach, number one rule still applies, please don’t put …
/r/seduction26/04/25 01:49 PM
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Agree! Around 5 mins is perfect. Imagine that awkward silence on the way home because it takes forever. Such a mood killer. This is also why I don’t get the “whole city” approach: “I need to move to a bigger city because my city sucks, thinking of approaching every hot woman in town!” People like this think that they would go to another side of town that’s 1-3 hours ride and plan to take a woman home. Logistically it doesn’t make sense. Your playground is probably only 5-20 blocks radius, not a …
/r/seduction26/04/25 11:29 AM
2

With the right mood and environment; absolutely yes.
/r/seduction26/04/25 01:50 AM
1

It depends, if every guy makes her special then that special becomes boring, so it’s not special anymore. In my experience even if the woman is only 6 or 7, there’s usually a few guys chasing after her. This is why you need to be your genuine self, meaning that would you treat her the same if she’s ugly? Start from something small and simple first ie; able to say NO to her. Just treat her as if she doesn’t have the physical features (looks, body) that makes you horny. I’ve stopped counting how m…
/r/seduction25/04/25 05:13 PM
2

I’d say it’s just a mid tier to make money. Some of them I’ve personally known shifted into becoming a podcaster - also mid tier— talking about different issues, or trying different kind of business. I can even go further with my opinion; if you’re a PUA coach for years or even a decade and you’re still in that field, I think you’re stuck there. Case in point is Mystery. He took a long hiatus that I thought he ran another business or something. Then he came back recently and still trying to be a…
/r/seduction25/04/25 04:58 PM
2

If she agrees to the 2nd one, try avoid dinner or whatever it is that makes you both just sit down (dinner, a movie, etc). My favorite ones are just doing grocery or window shopping together, because that would create a bigger chance for you to physically escalate; holding her hands, giving her a hug, etc. But if she’s still distant then I would just move on. Last time you met her was a few months ago, you said. So anything could’ve happened in between that might’ve changed her perception toward…
/r/seduction25/04/25 04:51 PM
9

It’s something I’ve learned over time. Subtle is great. A good flirt should be a subtle one.
/r/seduction25/04/25 10:04 AM
2

Almost everything in life is transactional, which is not a bad thing. Even parents love their children hoping they will do good in life, or the other way arounds kids love their parents because they take a good care of them. without making it feel like you’re expecting something in return? By being toward expressing yourself instead of impressing your counterpart.
/r/seduction25/04/25 09:52 AM
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Slowly verbally and physically escalate, and narrow the convo into “you and me” talk.
/r/seduction25/04/25 09:38 AM
3

Either: You have feelings for her but you never want to ask her out for whatever reason, or can’t see both of you in that circumstances, or… You don’t have feelings for her but you got upset like a kid got upset because another kid playing with his toy. I would guess #2. Usually when a person not sure whether he has feelings for her, he’s probably not.
/r/seduction24/04/25 10:43 PM
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Great job! This reminds me of a classic question “are you more of an ass guy or a boob guy?” I swear I keep changing my answer like on weekly basis lol. Face can be #2 or #3 on the list, but whenever I see a woman with a nice ass or plump titties I’m like ok I gotta talk to her. Like omg if only she knew what I have in mind. My mind is not in a gutter, more like in a sewer.
/r/seduction24/04/25 09:15 PM
1

She probably saw you as trying too hard.
/r/seduction24/04/25 04:31 PM
1

The “confession letter” is so 1960’s-1980’s. But apart from being outdated, imagine this: You’re gonna meet her and talk to her. Then hand her the letter. You can’t feel there’s something wrong? Like why don’t you talk to her verbally about it when you see her? Yes in old Hollywood or even Bollywood movies there’s gotta be some scenes where in her room, the girl will smile reading the letter then put it against her chest and start falling in love. Then she will start dancing for full 10 minutes …
/r/seduction24/04/25 10:29 AM
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She’s far older than you, so typically an older woman wanna try to overcompensate it by giving it all out. Have her lick every single part of your body including where the sun don’t shine.
/r/seduction23/04/25 01:18 AM
3

When exchanging numbers, make it interesting. Either she saved a funny name on your # in her cell or you do it for her, and the other way around. “Andy with glasses” or “Jenn with dimples”. Obviously show it to her so you guys can be on the same page. Bonus point if you guys laugh about it. So when you start texting it’s no longer another introduction. If you gotta introduce (again), that means the last convo with her wasn’t interesting enough. I usually come up with “hey, speaking of … that you…
/r/seduction23/04/25 12:54 AM
1

If life is not a movie, why did you even ask for a script? And you are the one who brought up about staring at each other without nothing else to talk about? You just proved my point haha. Openers, surprisingly, are the easiest part of a cold approach. You can start from whatever point. It doesn’t matter, just like drawing a pic. You wanna start from drawing a mountain? A river? A paddy field? A road? Up to you. Simple openers; commenting on what she wears, her sneakers, her apple watch, her hat…
/r/seduction22/04/25 01:32 AM
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Exactly why it’s not easy to explain it in writing. You said the word I know one might say: CRINGE. It’s like you read a movie’s scripts and lots of scenes in it sound so cringe if you just read them. But wait until you see the movie, maybe it’s hilarious or funny. Because you don’t see how the actors say or act it. Like the other commenter said, field reports in this sub are getting rarer being reported, because what actually happened and what the person described could give 2 totally different…
/r/seduction22/04/25 12:41 AM
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I agree with all your other points but would like to comment on the “example” issue. Idk about others but in my experience examples are merely guidance or hints, but can’t be used exactly the same or even as guarantee. There’s a lot of variables involved in 1 setting (types of women, places, surrounding, charisma, how you carry yourself, how you say stuff, etc) that you can’t just rely on “what do I say? Gimme an example!” This is why I remember there was a post a week ago (?) a guy asked what w…
/r/seduction22/04/25 12:11 AM
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Imagine playing a (sport) game like basketball or football. Doesn’t matter what sports. Basic prerequisites are needed. That’s why a coach will tell you to jog, run, lose weight, lift, jump, etc. Same thing with this “game”. Start with some basic stuff first: Be more approachable, befriend others easily, smile and say hi when you see a stranger, start a small talk to people within your circles. There’s a lot of cases where a guy wanting to get a gf and he was told to do a cold approach. OK sound…
/r/seduction21/04/25 10:54 PM
3

What’s keeping me in the game? Probably just my sex drive. Whenever I have a good rotation there’s no drive for another approach. I think it applies to women, too. People won’t easily cheat or even won’t think about it if their (biological) needs are satisfied. Yes women are picky, but the real question is “how picky?” Because most of the time you would think they would fall for a prince charming but they end up with a junkie deadbeat. What they say or think they want and what they are actually …
/r/seduction21/04/25 10:37 PM
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Use your common sense. I’ve approached women in airports or bus stations but that was like walking on a thin line. You gotta see them whether they are in a hurry or not. If they walk at a slow pace then you got a good chance. They’re sitting down like they’re waiting in transit? Even better. This is why my sweet spot is always grocery stores or malls, the environment there condition people to walk slowly/not in a hurry. But it’s always with a caveat: I read a post here a while ago where the post…
/r/seduction21/04/25 06:57 PM
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I would say cold approach requires advanced social skills, meaning that even without those mental health issues you mentioned, people are not born with those skills. Or any skills whatsoever. You learn them and gotta put them in practice. The question is whether the mental health issue they have will hinder their skill learning process. That honestly can’t be answered by a random redditor. But if it does hinder, I would suggest to learn an easy social skill: how to talk to your friend, how to ma…
/r/seduction21/04/25 11:02 AM
2

Issues like you will always have 2 schools of thought; one would suggest you wait a few days to give impression to her that you’re not obsessed with her or you’re high value and busy with your life. The other would tell you that you gotta strike the iron while it’s still hot.
/r/seduction21/04/25 01:40 AM
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Yes, but she needs to earn that. Keep in mind that you are also a prize. Not just her. You are fully aware you can financially support her, give her a lot of presents, but that’s just half of the story. What does she have to offer? You don’t give out something to a random stranger just because she’s cute, that implies you’re begging her to qualify you to be worthy of her presence. So instead of doing DHV, what happened is the other way around. She’s DHV-ing you. She implies “if you like me, brin…
/r/seduction21/04/25 12:30 AM
2

Idk where you got that, but that’s not the idea behind DHV and peacocking.
/r/seduction20/04/25 09:44 PM
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Before my cold approach journey years ago, I had a relationship with a girl where I showered her with lots of presents. I’ve spent close to $10k on presents in just a few months, not to mention dinners and other stuff. She cheated on me with a guy who didn’t even spend a dime on her. Giving a present might work in a sense that she loves your presents then slowly and expectedly she subconsciously associates them with you (she loves your presents = she loves you), but in the end there is no physic…
/r/seduction20/04/25 08:55 PM
2

She told you to message her Insta. You DM’d her, she didn’t reply. Case closed. What you can do is just wait for her reply. That’s it. Interaction or even escalation or seduction works like a dance, a pendulum or a tennis game. You moved 1 step forward, wait to see if she reciprocates. If she does, you move 1 step closer, if not then you step back. If she doesn’t respond always assume that she’s not interested in you. Doesn’t matter if she’s exactly your type, that you feel you’re more drawn to …
/r/seduction20/04/25 08:40 PM
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Remember this: If you have to give a present to a girl in order to impress her or try to sell yourself, that means you got nothing else to offer. Sounds pathetic? Yes. Because it is.
/r/seduction20/04/25 08:27 PM
2

I’m not really familiar with Europe specifically, only been in some big cities like London and Paris so I can’t really answer your last question. But I’ve been in different parts of the world and I’m a polyglot (maybe you are, too) so while all over the place I did day game religiously. This is what I can share you: I consider approaching women like a side quest (like in a game). So basically it’s a “nothing to lose” situation. Treat them all like NPC’s. If I get them to talk and things go well,…
/r/seduction20/04/25 01:00 PM
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This is the major reason why most interaction shouldn’t be scripted. Social conventions or human behaviors are kinda weird in a sense where it’s fluid like water flows, not rigid like 1+1=2. You have to have that “click” moment where you learned that “oh I came on too strong,” or “that doesn’t sound right”, or “this convo is boring, she is boring.” You can’t learn that thru tutorials or even a text book. It’s like the “you gotta be there - oh it’s a geographical joke”- scene from The Office. Or …
/r/seduction20/04/25 12:43 PM
2

Night settings like clubs or bars, yeah I’ve seen it once in a while. In a mall or broad day light? Probably not. And besides, if a woman dares to approach a man I bet she would have “come to Jesus” moment where she’d realize approaching a stranger is not easy, even just to open a small talk. Women don’t realize this simple fact because they are on the literally-receiving end most of the time. I had this acquaintance of mine where we barely talked during pandemic while we were at work. One day w…
/r/seduction20/04/25 12:35 PM
4

Definitely. I think that was part of the reasons I no longer do night game. The other is probably pandemic, it accidentally shifted me toward day game and there’s no regret. Whenever I get drunk I tend to be quieter, that’s why I hate when drunk people get louder and more obnoxious. It just ruins the whole set. But maybe more rewards = more risks and I just wanna play safe these days lol.
/r/seduction20/04/25 12:44 AM
2

Not sure either. I talked to this woman and her friend came out of nowhere and started verbally assaulting me. I ignored her and kept talking to her friend then she just spat on me. Her friend was so embarrassed she had to apologize to me on behalf of her friend. Maybe she thought I was another guy? But I definitely can smell alcohol from her mouth.
/r/seduction20/04/25 12:24 AM
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From being spat on to getting slapped on the face. Night games mostly. Never happened in day game. How it happened? Some of it was probably alcohol, some others were just chaos ensued. Night game is where the pendulum is swinging to one extreme to another, you could go home with a woman fairly easy or you could get slapped fairly easy too.
/r/seduction19/04/25 10:27 PM
2

You can’t. She wants people to engage. That’s her moment to shine. Not yours. Read the room.
/r/seduction19/04/25 08:26 PM
2

When you said “mostly” I wonder what the percentage was. If it was big enough then it’s probably a “you” problem (maybe the way you said it? The way you carried yourself?). If it was small then I’d just brush it off. I can relate to you because I had experienced harsh rejections, too. But overall those were just minuscule compared to the neutral/positive ones.
/r/seduction19/04/25 04:19 PM
1

Or maybe you’re just getting older? like you subconsciously feel that the girls or the women you see during your night game are getting younger. Or in the recent past you can’t relate to what they were talking about? You know Lana Del Rey, but they talk about Chappell Roan. Your post kinda remind me of my old friend. He’s like the first gen of PUA who knew Mistery personally. But one day last year he told me he feels like the world keeps moving at a faster speed while he feels like he’s getting …
/r/seduction19/04/25 03:51 PM
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I bet the chat requests are piling up by now lol. Especially looking at your previous post. This is why I don’t take a woman’s post seriously. Might as well a bait for an OF link in the future.
/r/seduction19/04/25 03:35 PM
2

Approaching a stranger is never a mainstream thing. I regularly approach a woman but one time I saw another guy doing it I was taken aback. If I saw that like 1-2 times a year I consider myself lucky enough.
/r/seduction19/04/25 12:59 PM
1

Just because she likes women doesn’t mean she doesn’t like men. That “everybody knows…” is just crazy. How does everybody know? She announced it in public? Yea there is something you can do. Like talking to her, asking her opinion. Instead of assuming things.
/r/seduction19/04/25 12:35 PM
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It’s part of communication, hence the objective is to communicate. To let her know that unlike her guy friends, you stand out by tickling her funny bone. To show her that you’re attracted to her to some degree. To plant a slightly sexual idea in her head so she can be (more) receptive when you escalate.
/r/seduction19/04/25 12:29 PM
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It’s all “flight vs fight” type situation. Let’s say there are 2 guys who agree with the situation of dating world and its problems. One decided to fight it; maneuver and learn how to deal with the issues, he believes no matter how bleak or darker it is, he can still win in the end. While the other guy keeps whining and complaining how the glass is half empty, heck maybe he now sees it as totally empty. He starts hating on the situation and the women. He blames all his problems on women and the …
/r/seduction19/04/25 12:21 PM
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The bar is so low that she’s let you know that she can’t make it can be considered a green flag lol. I mean, imagine waiting in a coffee shop for an hour or so without her replying to your text and in the end you saw on your phone that she unmatched you. Welcome to a Black Mirror episode.
/r/seduction19/04/25 01:20 AM
1

Well, I wouldn’t say it’s easier. Even tho in my experience I can say that a night game is far easier than a day game. But… they are still strangers. Idk your social skills level, but if it’s just average or even below, I think it’s still easier to “approach” a girl you know than the one that you don’t. If you know her then you have tons of material to talk about. Strangers? Have you read some of the posts here? Even a lot of guys have problems with “opener” or opening lines, let alone stuff to …
/r/seduction19/04/25 01:10 AM
1

Your case is pretty unique as you said you deal with women everyday. Maybe start from there. I know a lot of stories of young virgin guys who want to step outside their comfort zone, but never with the “I deal with women everyday.” Use that to your advantage. I bet you have an interest in one or two of them. Why do you need to go out to a club to approach a stranger where the opportunity is within your reach?
/r/seduction19/04/25 12:41 AM
1

I always see humans better be monogamous social-wise, but only if they’ve spent time for a while. Maybe like a year or 2; then go ahead, follow the steps; getting engaged then getting married. Now here comes the tricky part: what we should do before those next steps? I would like to see it as you’re slightly more than a friend, but far away from getting engaged or married. So you’re actually close to the “friend” status than to “getting engaged” status. Because of that, like you having multiple …
/r/seduction19/04/25 12:02 AM
1

“Choosing signals” or IOI is overrated. Like any other body languages, we tend to misinterpret it by a big margin. Heck you and people you know probably don’t speak the same (body) language, let alone between you and a stranger. By doing it right away — only approach women who are showing IOI —- you basically disqualify yourself.
/r/seduction18/04/25 09:43 PM
2

Gosh I thought you gonna ask “should I ask her out?” Or “should I give her a kiss?” … but follow request? Smh. No I wouldn’t do that if I were you. Why don’t you use this opportunity to directly ask for her insta account? This is a good topic you can use to talk to her, let her talk more about her account and see if she’s the one who’s asking if both of you could follow each other, instead of “oh I found her insta! What should I do?” Not to mention she might think you’d purposely looked for her …
/r/seduction18/04/25 09:13 PM
3

The first thing I learned this in HS was a sincere, spontaneous thought that came to my mind “how can a girl this gorgeous be so stupid?” It’s like having a sudden remorse. It totally reset my mindset. Like you see a very beautiful car with a fucked up engine. Just for a show. I never look at those 9’s and 10’s the same way again since.
/r/seduction18/04/25 05:53 PM
2

Social circles, cold approaches, online dating apps. “All roads lead to Rome.”
/r/seduction18/04/25 05:50 PM
6

Cold approach irl, don’t rely on OLD.
/r/seduction18/04/25 05:48 PM
8

One thing I could think of is you’d have a relationship with an extremely hot woman, or even just befriend her. You’d see that most of them are superficial aka hollow in the inside, and got nothing to offer but their looks or body. Tbh this applies to extremely good looking guys, too. The fucked up part is just with this privilege, they could get so far in life. I’ve seen with my own eyes how they got wealth and a good career just by their looks. So OP is on the one side of the spectrum where he…
/r/seduction18/04/25 05:45 PM
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Your solution has been known and done by girls, too. It feels like all the crazies (both men and women) gather in OLD and basically you’re doing a russian roulette.
/r/seduction18/04/25 02:50 PM
1

Pretty much like you even tho I’m a bit left leaning on some issues. Politics are becoming like religions these days and their opposite is considered purely evil (applies to both spectrums), they stand up for theirs like it’s sacred. Not to mention some people who put their political stance on their OLD bio/profile, a major turn-off.
/r/seduction18/04/25 10:28 AM
1

How do we know if your expectations are too high?what certain traits or qualities that you look for? Describe your ideal image. Can’t really answer this one unless you give us more info. But one thing for sure, this is what a lot of women go through. Either their expectations are too high or they look for very specific characters in men.
/r/seduction17/04/25 10:35 PM
1

Everyone will look at you when there’s a cameraman following you. “Oh look a 15th YouTuber tonight trying to get views”
/r/seduction17/04/25 01:56 PM
1

Wait until they say “but i’m not a lady”
/r/seduction17/04/25 01:52 PM
8

Just ask her out. If she said yes then she’s definitely interested. All this noise from your 2 posts made it look like you are observing her as if you’re observing some peculiar behaviors of a creature in the wild. Talk to her, ask her out. Quit guessing and assuming.
/r/seduction17/04/25 12:05 AM
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You don’t even have to ask questions. Just say what’s on your mind. Don’t say (nice) things in order to impress her or polish your image. The problem with guys is women just do a minor thing (how many times in this sub you read guys complaining: ”she’s being cold even tho she was hot yesterday”, “she ignored me today”) to the point where they even have to post it here and ask for a solution. You can call it a neg, a shit test, an indicator of disinterest (iod), whatever. But one thing most women…
/r/seduction16/04/25 11:10 PM
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In my experience 9’s and 10’s are typically not good in bed, at least not better than 7’s or 8’s. My theory so far is they know they’re hot and get away with everything in life so they don’t feel like they have to work on their bed skills. While on the hand the latter probably try to overcompensate what they lack in looks. I mean, gosh some of them are even maestro when it comes to giving head.
/r/seduction16/04/25 05:28 PM
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Roses have thorns, remember the song “the first cut is the deepest” lol. Congrats on your first date!
/r/seduction16/04/25 12:09 PM
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Well yeah all that doesn’t sound significant, especially if she gets tons of attentions like you said. I bet she’s done it with other guys too.
/r/seduction16/04/25 12:07 PM
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How did she show you interest? Even like you said twice as hard. I’m curious.
/r/seduction16/04/25 01:25 AM
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No, you create the vibe. You don’t “get the vibe” as if there’s some divine energy transferring the vibe from above. Or invisible hands handing you the “right moment” to go in. Here are the typical/norm of successful dates: First date: Hand holding, kissing on cheeks/lips Second date: French kisses Third date: having sex Not saying these are the rules set in stone or have to happen in this order, but they are pretty common/typical. All of these could even happen on 1st date or 2nd date as well. …
/r/seduction14/04/25 11:44 PM
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Your place or hers is where you continue the physical escalation. Typically when she’s very receptive and you guys are already physically intimate in public (hand holding, hugging, lips/neck kissing, making out). So first, second, or 3rd date are irrelevant.
/r/seduction14/04/25 11:14 PM
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Cold approach alone can easily make people uncomfortable on both ends. When you approach a a woman, most common thought she has is “is he hitting on me? Is he a bad guy? What does he want from me? While the guy usually overthinks “what if she thinks I’m a bad guy? What if she says no, or even worse slaps me? What if people watch me getting rejected?” So these trains of thoughts could send weird vibes from both ends and make you and her feel uncomfortable. To avoid this, you gotta break the ice r…
/r/seduction14/04/25 10:43 PM
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Be proud of what you do. I seen guys collecting stamps or baseball cards but they can make an interesting convo out of it. Sounds cliche but it’s always how you say it instead of what you say. People generally like to hear fun, positive vibes from other people’s stories. They can relate, they know how it feels to have that high level of excitement. If you don’t believe me, try making up an imaginary, silly hobby; like collecting rocks or sticks. It would even be even sillier when you tell them t…
/r/seduction14/04/25 03:20 AM
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Unless you did/said something very stupid or showed a major flaw/red flag, I don’t see anything wrong from your post. maybe her asking for a kiss was a good opportunity to demonstrate restraint and tell her I’m interested in getting to know her first. There’s no way of knowing basically. If you did A and the outcome is disappointing, of course you’d think “what if I did B?” It’s like sport spectators who keep criticizing players “he should’ve passed the ball!” or “he could’ve waited a few more s…
/r/seduction14/04/25 02:57 AM
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Well yeah if autism is taken into consideration then that makes sense. Don’t know much about it but I’ve heard people with autism have difficulties with habit forming even like doing daily tasks/chores. Speaking of neediness; lemme tell you my story: Before I started this journey I had an ex where I spent close to $10k in less than a year just to get her presents and gifts. Not to mention small things like dinners etc which I’d say would make it way more than that amount. When we started the rel…
/r/seduction13/04/25 10:36 PM
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What’s improved me is to only worry about bigger stuff; like the fundamental/principles (inner game) not the mechanical stuff (methods, outer game etc). This is why a lot of guys are so focused on the small stuff even like we gotta be in the goldilock zone just to match with a woman. It has to be precise; not too much not too little, the timing has to be accurate (has to wait 2-3 days to call after first date). All these silly rules are ridiculous. I mean imagine having a relationship with so ma…
/r/seduction13/04/25 07:56 PM
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Tone down the goofy side and embrace the high energy side. Are you the type of person who’s always the same regardless who you are with? I get it everyone’s different. But my personality when I’m with my parents/family members is not the same when I’m with my guy friends, not the same either when I go out on a date. I thought this was normal (that everyone does this). But I noticed there are some people — especially guys — who don’t do this. When I said it’s not the same doesn’t mean I put on ma…
/r/seduction13/04/25 07:40 PM
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I talked about this with my sister the other day. She’s surprised how many layers and loops guys have to go through to analyze a dating situation just because the women are being flakey. Even to the point where we think we might’ve done something wrong with the way we text or even the time duration of texts, basically anything we could fix on our end to make it happen. “Sounds like dealing with a time bomb, a tiny little mistake and boom!” Her words, not mine. But she said most of the time that’…
/r/seduction13/04/25 03:02 PM
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Cmon man, you both have had lots of sex and you’re complaining why you’re the only one who always initiating texting? I’m now surprised why you could get to that sex stage with that kinda mindset.
/r/seduction13/04/25 02:51 PM
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I don’t want her to think im looking for just sex. Has she told you that she’s thinking about that? If not then why did you worry about something that hasn’t happened yet? how do you change your game to get relationships Look, a serious relationship is not (just) a status. The game doesn’t need to be changed fundamentally. If both of you are very compatible, the relationship will keep flowing continuously almost like effortlessly because each of you attracts each other not just physically but al…
/r/seduction13/04/25 04:13 AM
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Verbal escalation doesn’t have to be explicitly sexual. Don’t be like those guys on online dating apps who gas it from 0-60 mph in 5 secs. “Wanna suck my dick?” “Let’s see how good you are in bed.” Here’s an example that happened just recently: in our office a couple days ago there was a fire drill, everyone had to evacuate outside. I happened to be the first people who got out so I got a chair to sit on. Then there’s this colleague who’s pretty hot but had to stand up close to me as there’s no …
/r/seduction12/04/25 03:41 PM
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I would stay away from her. She has issues. If this was the old me I would probably be thinking to act as her hero or savior trying to fix her, or at least offer my shoulders for her to cry on. But I learned my lessons.
/r/seduction12/04/25 02:40 PM
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Or maybe she was just embarrassed after shedding tears in front of you. To me that scene was just 2 awkward people trying to navigate themselves in an uncharted territory. But idk if I would wanna seduce her, she seems like a very fragile type that playing a game with her is not worth it. I mean, imagine her reaction if you left her for good, possibly worse than having some series of panic attacks.
/r/seduction12/04/25 02:06 PM
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Unlike in Hollywood movies, there is no “tale signs” and “right moment”. You are the one who needs to create the moment. This is why verbal and physical escalation is important in dating. She’s your date, treat her like one. Don’t treat her like a friend of yours. When you go out on a date, she basically agrees that you and her will have a good time, including kisses and sex. Lots of them. It’s already implied. As long as you play your cards right.
/r/seduction12/04/25 01:06 PM
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This is why I don’t focus much on OLD. I came to the point that I feel a lot of women in OLD only want to stay online. Once it’s face to face time they’re flakey, like being online is their comfort zone. At this point I don’t even wanna know why they did what they did. We could come up with 1000 analysis and theories on what we did wrong as a self-introspection, but at the end of the day they are just assumptions.
/r/seduction11/04/25 08:45 PM
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When she throws the day, I always respond with the time. For example: Her:sure how about Friday? Me: sounds good, but I can do it after 8 pm tho. That implies that you squeeze her in your busy schedule and try to make it happen. Not just “I’m free all day”. Obviously when it’s “grab a drink” it’s always after 5. I’m just talking in general. Actual rescheduling is part of life’s solution to a problem. But at times I noticed that’s become a tactic from some women to play “hard to get” or to reorga…
/r/seduction11/04/25 08:28 PM
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There’s a lot of layers need to be peeled with your issues here; starting from your social skills (“I don’t have a lot of friends”) to your mindset (“the girls there had huge egos”). Let’s say it’s true that you’re good looking, but that can only go so far unless you’re an extremely hot guy whom women drool all over you. Then if you have average social skills (able to talk to people easily but not women, let alone attractive ones) that’s also another issue to work with.
/r/seduction11/04/25 05:17 PM
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The hottest ones I’ve slept with were surprisingly the ones that I didn’t put much effort. It’s like they are used to guys who try to impress them so hard or try too hard, they’d get impressed by the ones who dgaf.
/r/seduction10/04/25 08:01 PM
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I’ve slept with a young teacher in the past. What I’ve learned was she’s used to people listening to her. So what I did is to be a contrarian once in a while. Of course not in a tense/very serious way. She was surprised that I disagreed with her on some topics, which she found very hot (I guess I accidentally built a sexual tension?). But being chatty is another issue. Sometimes you gotta interject with only a short sentence just to stop her; “wait…”, “that’s weird…”, “I don’t get it…” People us…
/r/seduction10/04/25 07:58 PM
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It’s not easy to give advices on humor or jokes, because most part is about the delivery not the content. In the past I’ve tried some silly/stupid openers like “you have something in your teeth” or “I swear from afar I thought you were my sister ” but if I bring up these good stories people usually think that I’m a douche. But the way I did them was having a relaxed posture, have a grin or a sly smile on my face, and my intonation wasn’t forced.
/r/seduction09/04/25 11:28 PM
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Tbh this is between fair play and manipulation, which I’m against the latter. But in the end it’s like entrapment; if you’re not a gold digger you wouldn’t fall for it.
/r/seduction09/04/25 11:17 PM
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Have you tried asking people to do you a favor? Give it a try: it’s actually a good feeling, and kind of a test —-if you wanna call it that— to see how people actually perceive you. Idk if you have done it. But I feel like people like you always keep giving and giving because they think others would automatically reciprocate just like what they do, which is not the case most of the time. Same thing applies to approaching a woman. You just don’t keep investing constantly and expect one day she wi…
/r/seduction09/04/25 11:10 PM
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I ended up texting her a third time just to apologize for everything and for putting her in a weird spot. I sent her a paragraph where I told her she was just so beautiful, that she was my type, and that I’d really love to take her out. The famous rule of no double texting is a solid advice in general. What I always do is I text and wait. That’s it. There’s nothing else you can do to make her read and/ or reply your text ASAP. If she hasn’t read it, she will. If she won’t read or reply, your nex…
/r/seduction09/04/25 11:02 PM
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I always give a chance or an out whenever I deal with this type of reaction: “are you sure?”, “do you have something in mind to talk about?, “everything alright?” to encourage them to talk about it. It’s because I see that a lot of people (even including women) really have no communication skills. Usually if they come from a conservative or a sheltered family. While I was raised in a totally different environment, there’s no “maybe” answer in our family. Either yes or no. If a guest says “maybe”…
/r/seduction09/04/25 05:15 PM
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It sounds like you swing from one extreme to another. At first you seem to want to please other people, then when you find out they don’t reciprocate, you swing to another extreme by isolating yourself. The middle ground is almost always a better deal in many cases of social/relationship issues. You can be kind to people but at the same time also set your boundaries. These 2 don’t have to be mutually exclusive. For example just last week a friend of mine asked me to pick her up because she had a…
/r/seduction09/04/25 04:05 PM
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I don’t have a social media acc except maybe this one here. But I know for a fact the ratio of follows and followers have to be decent to maintain your frame. Imagine you only have 10 followers for example (and most of them are bots lol), while you follow 300 people and many of them are women. Now you’d look like a creep. To me not having a social media is the safest option. Some have given me their IG links and I just bookmarked them in my cellphone, I barely look at them anyway. If they wanna …
/r/seduction09/04/25 11:00 AM
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The lines mentioned in the video only work in certain conditions: There was a relationship It’s over and there’s no talking The guy suggested to take the lead by asking the girl to talk about it Is your situation fit? She already talked about it, then what else to talk about? And there’s no story between you two, not even sex. It was just her giving you a head. I was even surprised with a long post you wrote I first thought there was a long relationship happened in the past. But it’s just a blow…
/r/seduction09/04/25 04:51 AM
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Yeah it could be insecurity. I would say that’s more like being possessive at first. Why don’t you have this mindset: She’s not yours, you guys are not together, and you said you’ve flirted with other people, too. So any feeling you might have if she flirts with other guys is not reasonable. Lemme ask you: are you afraid that she might flirt with other guys ON YOUR SPECIAL EVENT? Like you think it’s gonna make it worse because you feel by doing that she disrespects you? If that’s the case then y…
/r/seduction09/04/25 02:44 AM
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Imagine using your birthday event to laser-focus on her. Are you sure it’s not her birthday?
/r/seduction09/04/25 02:21 AM
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Listen, you can ask 1000 guys about this and even if majority said yes she flirts with you… the real question is: what you gonna do? Is it gonna make a difference if majority says yes or no? The real confirmation whether she flirts or no is from her mouth. Not from random strangers. So just approach her, make her blushed, and make her wet.
/r/seduction08/04/25 08:33 AM
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You build up connection when you meet her face to face. Yes you can also call her, there’s no “writing in stone” either you should call her or you shouldn’t. But typically when a guy calls he doesn’t have anything to talk about. There’s a big difference between “I have something to talk about” vs “I have to talk about something”. Here’s an example: a guy could call the girl every day for hours and the connection grows. Because every time he calls he knows how to do it, how to make her more inter…
/r/seduction08/04/25 08:17 AM
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If she’s already had initial interest in you, quit overselling yourself — as you have the mindset “how to peak her interest in me — Have the table turned by having the mindset “this is your opportunity to get me interested in you”
/r/seduction08/04/25 08:09 AM
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You went on a date with her, she said she’d go with you again next weekend. That already sounded very good. I’m not trying to sound sexist, but worrying about small stuff like not enthusiastic on texting, or the reply is just 1-2 words, stuff like that give out a feminine energy, like girls/women need assurance that their guy really love them and only focus on them. My suggestion is to either be busy with your life or have options. These 2 would make you stand out and distract you from thinking/…
/r/seduction07/04/25 11:13 AM
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I would. That’s what I always do whenever I cold approach: don’t make any other plans when you plan on doing cold approach either day or night game, since you don’t know what’s gonna happen. Guys tend to get fixated on only getting a number while they could go further than that at the same time. There was a post the other day about a guy approaching a woman in a night club then he gotta leave to do something else even tho the interaction was very good according to him, typical story by next time…
/r/seduction07/04/25 11:07 AM
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Bro, your insecurity is showing.
/r/seduction07/04/25 12:54 AM
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This is like “Superbad” movie energy. Go, McLovin!
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:27 PM
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Write down your accomplishment for a year. Collect the data and compare how many times you lay and how many times you fail. That’s how I’ve done it. It’s also useful to avoid some kind of bias. We tend to think we fail a lot but if we check real numbers we probably don’t. And on the other hand some guys brag that they done a lot of lays but in reality they ignore the ones that they’ve failed. You can’t just be too hard on yourself because you come home empty handed on one or 2 nights.
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:18 PM
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Do you know the stereotypical story of how a bunch of guys meet for the first time at a BBQ party and they get along well, laugh at the same jokes, relate to everyone’s stories and experiences while they don’t even know each other names? They probably got there because their gf or wife knows each other. That’s what building a connection is. You don’t always need to know a lot of infos about the other guys but they connect. There’s a distinct difference between “yea I know him, I met him once at …
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:10 PM
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Those questions are interview-style ones like the ones media use to interview celebrities or HR dept interviews potential employees. You could use a few of them but maybe only for openers. Otherwise you’d come across an awkward/rigid guy who treat women like aliens from another planet. The fundamental principle about a date or even a relationship is to build a connection. Those questions are only good to “know more about you”, but they are not good to build a connection. Hence there’s no sparks …
/r/seduction06/04/25 05:27 PM
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You just got your first kiss and already acted like she’s yours by being pissed of whatever she told you what she was gonna do but didn’t do. Your vibe is clingy and needy.
/r/seduction06/04/25 01:53 PM
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I believe most people want to have a long term relationship, even the promiscuous ones. We are social creatures. We like to go home where our loved one waiting for us instead of having to turn on the light switch and take a deep breath because we realize the house is empty. We like to wake up in the morning and see our loved one sleeping next to us. What I learned lately is short term and long term ones don’t have to be mutually exclusive. But to some people they want to stay in a relationship n…
/r/seduction06/04/25 01:48 PM
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Existentialism and its variation definitely go into everyone’s mind. Even to married guys who already got kids. That’s where loving and accepting yourself comes in handy. Zen. Easier said than done of course.
/r/seduction05/04/25 07:18 PM
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That’s where options or rotations come in handy. So you’re not seen/felt like you’re chasing or investing in her. The vibe is similar to how you text your friends on regular basis, like once or a couple times a week - obviously not literally treating them like your friends— you don’t push a certain agenda on them. Or at least it doesn’t seem that way. What I have in mind is: “Yea looking at how fast we interact, you probably won’t sleep with me this week, doesn’t mean I don’t sleep with anyone. …
/r/seduction05/04/25 07:13 PM
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Correct. Besides all information is pretty much free these days. Just because you have all the info doesn’t mean you’re good at actually doing it. It’s a skill, not memorizing information. I mean, imagine if this sub has a gathering and the regular contributors also attend. Let’s say there’s an event there to approach a random woman. I’d be surprised 50% of them/us would be successful even just to get her number. Regardless of how much information, techniques, methods, have all been shared in th…
/r/seduction05/04/25 07:10 PM
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You don’t need the “best person” to teach you, a good enough would be decent. I know there’s a few guys out there who do the full time pro training like the movie “Hitch”. Basically one on one full time for a few weeks with accustomed lessons based on your unique personality, instead of putting you together with other guys in a small room and charge everyone the same price regardless differences of social skills everyone has in that room. They cost a lot, like $10K+. But of course guys like them…
/r/seduction05/04/25 06:14 PM
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Experienced the same thing couple of times. I’d just brush it off like it’s not a big deal. Idk what their motives are, but either they’re actually busy, or they make an excuse because they’re not sure (of you, of themselves) or they don’t wanna be seen as too easy or cheap. But either way I finally met some of them the next time after few more banters thru texts. That took few weeks after the initial convo. Maybe they realize I’m not chasing them? Who knows.
/r/seduction05/04/25 06:07 PM
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Exactly my thought. Not about his appearances but the effects it has on him.
/r/seduction05/04/25 04:19 PM
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You see what you wanna see. You hear what you wanna hear.
/r/seduction05/04/25 01:09 PM
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Ehh, almost everything we do in life is cyclical. From eating to taking a shower, to approaching women and even having sex. Just because it’s turned into cyclical doesn’t mean it’s gonna be boring: I’d take having sex once daily over only once a year randomly for example.
/r/seduction05/04/25 01:07 PM
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Potayto, potahto.
/r/seduction05/04/25 01:02 PM
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It’s not the kiss, but what it represents: physical intimacy. What I always do in terms of physical escalation : touching/holding hand —- > side hug (put your arm on her waist/shoulder) —-> hug (face to face) —> kiss on her cheeks —> kiss on her lips —> french kiss You can’t just jump from putting your hand on her leg straight to a kiss. This is why guys feel hesitant. There’s a reason it’s called an escalation; not a leap or a jump. Also all these physical escalation can be done in 1-2 hours, b…
/r/seduction05/04/25 12:58 PM
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Idk why lately I see even a regular question from a woman is considered a shit test. I don’t think it’s that deep, not everything she asks is a shit test. Are you concerned that she might look down on you because of your taste on music? That your value in her eyes would be lower because of your shitty taste? Just answer it honestly and maintain your frame.
/r/seduction05/04/25 12:35 AM
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Ask yourself why you’re afraid. You need to find the root cause before solving the problem. Guys can have the same fear of approaching women but the root causes could be different (past trauma, family dynamics, being bullied, overthinking, etc).
/r/seduction05/04/25 12:31 AM
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Nah, confirmation bias.
/r/seduction05/04/25 12:17 AM
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Whether she’s interested or not just talk to her. That’s the only way you confirm it.
/r/seduction04/04/25 12:33 PM
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What if your mission is to have fun? I mean, having a mission can be enjoyable, too. I think it all depends on the individual. If you are a type of a person who’s excited to get a goal accomplished by all means go for it. But if you feel that having a mission makes you jittery, then change your perspective/mindset.
/r/seduction04/04/25 01:29 AM
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Every path has its own risks and benefits. Quit overthinking it. If sex was food, just give it a try and see what you think of it as you’re a virgin as of now. Imagine someone says “I want this, I want that, I want everything in the store” but when asked if he’s ever tried one, he said no.
/r/seduction03/04/25 05:24 PM
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Yes, a few times. Don’t drool over them, just treat them like other women.
/r/seduction03/04/25 05:21 PM
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I would say it’s normal if this is new to you. Do you like her, tho? Reaction could be similar regardless you like her or not. It’s more like a light version of a panic attack.
/r/seduction02/04/25 08:43 PM
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Ideally I would say Option A. But from your post I have a feeling her inconsistency is ironically what makes you want for more. It’s the up and down of rollercoaster, the push and pull from her. If she was a guy we’d label her a bad boy; the one whom women keep asking why he don’t wanna seal the status of the relationship, the one who always walks away whenever women reciprocate. Clearly you have invested more in her than she has in you. If I were you I would honestly ask yourself: what makes yo…
/r/seduction02/04/25 08:39 PM
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Here, I have a meme for you. Just sitting in the corner and observing feels odd to me Yes, it’s odd. You’re in the club, bro. Why did you sit in the corner? This is what I always tell people who go on vacation and only take pics while they’re on the destination: “you know you can always photoshop your pics, right?” Vacation and all other entertainments including going to a club and a bar are about experiencing new stuff. Go dance, taste some local exotic food, talk to locals, go scuba diving. If…
/r/seduction02/04/25 05:54 PM
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First of all, I would say that flirting is just a minor part of seduction, in term of quantity-wise. You can just throw 1-2 words that are highly suggestive and that should be enough to nudge it. Second, if she shut down or doesn’t reciprocate well that means she’s probably not receptive enough with sexual jokes. But you don’t always have to use jokes to flirt. You can use another way that’s also highly suggestive. Once in a while I say something like: Do you like your coffee stiff and dark? Thi…
/r/seduction02/04/25 05:40 PM
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what happens once this mysterious guy thing fades away? All of that “don’t do that, do this” should be treated as guidelines, not rules set in stones. Yes being a little bit mysterious is good, but all that only adds more value if she has an initial attraction just like with all those so-called rules. Imagine if your life or your whole personality is a whole movie. Sure if you wanna be a bit mysterious just by showing the woman a trailer as a tease. That’s what it is, your mystery is just a teas…
/r/seduction02/04/25 11:03 AM
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My reaction after reading this post.
/r/seduction02/04/25 01:03 AM
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Well, it’s Thailand you never know 🤷
/r/seduction01/04/25 10:40 AM
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Setting your boundaries is not killing the mood. In fact it’s the opposite; putting more value on yourself thus in general making you look more attractive to your counterpart. This applies to men and women. Unlike you, I’m much more into casual sex and throw sexual jokes and innuendos here and there deliberately but if my female colleague says “ok that’s a bit too far” then she clearly let me know where she draws the line which I respect. Same thing if a woman begs me to do something for her if …
/r/seduction31/03/25 01:03 AM
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This is what I always do and it works 9 out of 10 times. But bear with me because this is like a slow cooking, not just a “hit and run” method: If you frequent the coffee shop then make a small talk just for a min or 2 with her at least a few times. To let her familiar with you and your face. Obviously when she’s not busy. You don’t wanna come across as “the annoying, lonely guy who has no one else to talk to”. I do that all the time at the gym, at work, neighborhood, or any regular proximity th…
/r/seduction30/03/25 11:05 PM
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There’s no particular go-to method actually. I just learned my own mistakes. In the past after so many approaches I realized I just approached women in order to get their number. As the result our convo was pretty superficial and basic. Just like you mentioned. I couldn’t wait to get her number so I bombarded her with interview-style questions. I chased the goal which is the number, but I didn’t pay attention to what she said. I didn’t even try to explore the wide range of the topic we are talki…
/r/seduction30/03/25 10:40 PM
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Don’t. I know what you gonna do; you wanna impress her. “Oh he remembers my birthday after all these months not talking to me, what a nice guy!” If I were you I wouldn’t wait until her birthday coming up. Just text her and start making a small talk. If it goes well then might as well ask her out. Her birthday is irrelevant.
/r/seduction30/03/25 10:24 PM
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If you really need to have a reason to be out of the apartment or to justify it; I think you have a bigger problem than you’ve realized. I’d guess it might be loneliness or self-isolation. Generally people just go out in order to have fun or to get some fresh air —- which is of course not solid reasons if you think about it —- but people do it, anyway. It’s not some kind of a major decision they need to do; it’s as simple as stepping outside to your backyard or grabbing your car key and starting…
/r/seduction30/03/25 10:21 PM
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There are different kind of girls: Girls who are actually married or have a bf so it makes sense when they say they’re not single (last time I check 60-70% of women population is not single, or at least more than 50%). Girls who are in a situationship or just have a FB, from my experience they tend to say they’re not single. Because they’re confused with their relationship status. Girls who are actually single but always say they are not single, either they want to be seen that they’re high valu…
/r/seduction30/03/25 02:28 PM
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Asking for a number is basically asking for whatsapp. Which what I’ve always done instead of asking for her social media. I don’t really care for her social media like IG — unless she gives it to me—- yeah she will have lots of her hot pics so what, so I can have some to look at to jerk off? LoL. I want her, not her pics. Some women were surprised when I said I don’t have one, so when I see their acc is locked or private I said I can’t see theirs anyway so it’s useless. not all girls reply to my…
/r/seduction30/03/25 01:56 PM
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Most knowledge (about seducing and approaching) are free online. Even in this sub. Apart from knowledge, it’s also about skills. As a matter of fact, I would say skills are far more important than knowledge even tho the 2 are not mutually exclusive / they complement each other. You can have all the knowledge if you read most advices and suggestions here, but if you never implement them on the field it just doesn’t mean shit. On the other hand there are guys out there who have no idea about PUA c…
/r/seduction30/03/25 05:25 AM
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You seriously waited for 2 hours for her reply? And you already bothered by her not replying in 5 hours? You might have an anxiety issue, or confidence issue, or both. Show us your last text to her, I’d be surprised if it’s not something cringe or clingy.
/r/seduction29/03/25 05:17 PM
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Cold approach (night or day game or both), social circles (from work, school, church, gym), dating apps. Look at it this way; every time you see a good looking woman (or even a mid-looking one if you’re not picky) anywhere you go, always ask yourself if you could visualize yourself having a relationship, or at least having sex with her. Don’t close the door of opportunity to have a good, fun interaction with other women.
/r/seduction29/03/25 04:48 PM
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Look, having options and abundance mindset will solve a lot of problems that typically appear in this sub: She rejects you? She’s not responding/ghosting you? She responds slowly? She wants to take it slow? Should I respond to her text? What do I do to boost my confidence? What do I do so I don’t come across as needy or clingy? It’s almost like a silver bullet: HAVE OPTIONS!
/r/seduction29/03/25 04:24 PM
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I used to work 14-16 hours a day, 6-7 days a week for almost a year, and I still managed to have sex 1-2 times a week. Not only that, I wish I had more free time so I could have more sex. Not because —-like you said about your case here— “she’s angry and short-tempered and goes back to normal after sex.” It sounds like you wanna do it because she’s asking for sex, not because you actually love it. Compared to most hobbies that are time consuming, sex is relatively pretty quick (30 mins to an hou…
/r/seduction29/03/25 04:11 PM
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I still can’t wrap my head around “my sex life is amazing” and “we have sex once every 2 weeks.”
/r/seduction29/03/25 03:07 PM
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If it’s just for a hookup I wouldn’t say it’s too much. Maybe both of you clicked on sexual level and can’t wait to get there. Totally fine. But if you think she could be compatible for a long term relationship, I would just take it slow. In my experiences if something comes fast it could leave fast easily too. Easy come easy go. But anyway there’s no writing in stone on how often is too often.
/r/seduction29/03/25 02:47 PM
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She mentioned the noise so I thought the kisses were kinda slobbery or sloppy to say the least, but bad breath like the other commenter said could be another explanation. At one point last night she changed her mind and got turned off by what you said or did. You don’t need to text her again. Especially after texting her with no response. You shouldn’t do it in the first place, anyway. There’s nothing to explain. If she wants you next time she will do something about it. She clearly has much mor…
/r/seduction29/03/25 02:39 PM
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You’re experiencing a soft rejection that’s why you feel the way you are now. Either you fucked up or she just withdrew herself from you, it doesn’t matter now. There’s no “gimme a chance to fix it” because if you do that it’d come across as needy/pushy. This is why doubling down is not encouraged. Just accept the rejection gracefully. Having options/rotation is always better —especially if you’re single— because you can always reorient your focus from one girl to another. By doing that you also…
/r/seduction29/03/25 02:27 PM
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I never expressed direct intent. This what I never get. Why do you feel the need to do it? I read the other day some posts here shared a similar concern; how the posters said they need to proclaim or propose “I love you.” In the back of my head I was like “is this a cultural thing? Does this guy live in south asia?” Like… WHY? It seems to me it came from a very outdated concept that there’s gotta be a special moment where the guy needs to say it. Like back in the 60’s-70’s era where the movies p…
/r/seduction29/03/25 10:15 AM
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If your intention is pure you wouldn’t post it here lol. What you did was you being nice to impress the girl. You’d come across as trying too hard or even desperate. Not to mention that vast majority of guys also have the same thought process. So you are just “one of them”. This is why I always encourage guys to express themselves instead of trying to impress. To express > to impress. The former is genuine and the latter is an act. Girls don’t like nice guys because they pull an act, not because…
/r/seduction29/03/25 09:16 AM
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Mentality of: comfort zone is a trap. As long you stay in your comfort zone you’re not gonna get anywhere. Either it’s more money, being fit, weight loss, approaching a woman. A comfort zone is comforting because you’re adapted to it. But you shouldn’t be comfortable with your comfort zone. Push yourself to get out of it so the new zone will be your next comfort zone.
/r/seduction28/03/25 04:03 PM
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Golden rule applies here; I gave my ex an oral job quite few times she said no one has ever done it for her before. I asked her how she feels and she said it was the best sensation she ever had. She told me everytime she remembers it she got a goose bump and turned on right away. So I told her that’d be the same sensation I will have if she does it for me too. As the result she did it without being asked, even she did it first because she knows I will reciprocate. In the end we just love doing 6…
/r/seduction27/03/25 12:32 PM
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Now imagine you’re in a new city/hotel and the guy kinda insist or you can tell he wants to direct the convo to sex. Both of you would feel weird and awkward. This is why it’s better to bring it up before, be clear and concise of what you want and don’t want. I just don’t want you to feel trapped or lied to, while on the other hand there’s a possibility that the guy could mistakenly think that by you agreeing to visit him means that sex is also implied/included in it.
/r/seduction27/03/25 06:12 AM
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No, it’s not about “she needs to plan the next date”. It’s about that deep inside you know you’ve invested much more than she has. This is why you feel uncertain. Idk what is it that you’ve done, maybe because: you wanted to please her to the max (“i’m a very nice guy” type of thing). If you treated her like a friend, she will consider you as a friend. If you treat her like a lover, she will do the same. Typically after 3 dates, couples already kissed and made out. And this is not extreme, this …
/r/seduction26/03/25 08:53 PM
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Picture this scene: You’re in your house, then your sister or your female friend coming over. Once she comes in you’re like “hey what’s up?” Your interaction with her is just something natural and casual, and you don’t overthink it when it happens. Catch this particular feeling or vibe under this situation, then bring the same vibe whenever you approach a woman out there. That for me 100% of the time works in order to avoid the awkwardness/weirdness that you’re afraid of. Don’t treat her like a …
/r/seduction26/03/25 05:25 PM
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Eye contacts don’t mean shit as IoI’s (indicators od Interest) to me is overrated. A guy could feel that the woman looking back at him means that “oh she’s interested, too!” But how do you know? We hate when women expect us to be mind readers, but ironically we try to read their mind? There’s always a chance maybe she thinks “why did he keep staring at me?” or “do I know him? He looks familiar, tho” or “do I have something in my teeth? Something wrong with my appearance?”
/r/seduction26/03/25 05:15 PM
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Not a test, but more likely he will expect you to sleep with him while you’re there. If I were you I’d bring it up before going there so both of you can have a realistic expectation before the meetup.
/r/seduction26/03/25 05:07 PM
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Hell I’d ask her. Do her pics get taken from a certain angle? You know what I’m talking about. Any of her pics show her full body? I don’t think this is a shit test. More like she’s lowering your expectation before a meetup.
/r/seduction26/03/25 05:02 PM
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No one actually knows. Unlike women, I’m not a mind reader haha. But typically in cases like this, I step back. Whatever reason she’s doing, my go-to principle is always: match her energy; when she escalates then I reciprocate, if she steps back then I step back too. This will save me time and energy because even if there’s always a chance that she plays hard to get or throws a shit test, that means by stepping back I decided to not play her stupid game.
/r/seduction25/03/25 11:18 PM
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The stuff I mentioned is basically building a rapport. You can look up “building rapport” in this sub, too. You gotta do it if you want to start the “connection” otherwise in the end the tension goes down. After building rapport instead of constantly branching out the convo then you narrow it down/redirect it to the “you and me” convo. Of course by using the kino, escalation, and stuff you had mentioned in your post. In my experiences doing all this always takes at least 20-30 minutes alone with…
/r/seduction25/03/25 07:00 PM
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Don’t have to be common. The most recent one I did was last weekend. I complimented the dress of this hot one I met a small party. She said thank you and smiled. My only question to her was “where did you buy it from? You know maybe I need to get one for my future gf” while smiling at her. Then she laughed, maybe feeling that I imply that I don’t have a gf. She said “I got it from TJ Maxx.” And I’m like “TJ Maxx? No way! You seem like a high maintenance woman.” And it snowballs from there. Proba…
/r/seduction25/03/25 06:01 PM
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What I usually I dig 1 topic deeper, I’ve found out only 1-2 topics can be explored and extended to 20-30 mins and even more, of course you gotta make them fun and interesting enough for her.
/r/seduction25/03/25 05:39 PM
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People always make an assessment on everything and everyone constantly. Including you and me. But they are fluid and can change, depending on the new information that we get. This is why we can get turned on or off by what someone says or does.
/r/seduction25/03/25 11:32 AM
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Just the other day a colleague of mine talking about shopping and asked me to take her after work. I was like “gosh I never understand women going shopping all the time” and she goes “noo… today I just want to buy fruits. I love fruits!” I kinda sense that she’s onto something and I’m like “lemme guess, you like bananas don’t you?” And she starts laughing and her face blushed and says “yeah, but I only like the big ones..” I act surprised and have my jaw dropped. I move closer to her and whisper…
/r/seduction25/03/25 11:13 AM
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She treats you like one of her girl friends. That’s what always happens when you put yourself in the friend zone. At this point I’m surprised if you both don’t have BFF bracelets.
/r/seduction25/03/25 11:05 AM
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If that’s the case you gotta see if the sexual tension/attraction is there. I happened to have a raging boner from making out with a 7, while on the other hand there was this 9 gave me a blow job and took me forever just to get hard. So it’s not just the looks. There are gorgeous beautiful women out there but I wouldn’t consider some of them as sexy or hot.
/r/seduction25/03/25 05:48 AM
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Self sabotage has different root causes, either childhood trauma, bad relationship with an ex in the past, fucked up relationship with parents, etc.
/r/seduction25/03/25 05:28 AM
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Instead of talking to yourself in your head and overthinking stuff, just talk to her. Quit assuming a lot of things. So what if she’s actually not interested. Do people only talk to the ones who are attracted to them? Of course not. The world would be bleak and dark if that was the case.
/r/seduction25/03/25 05:23 AM
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I do occasionally, but I wouldn’t put it on top of the list. If you wanna do it make sure you do it in a considerate and fun way, like genuinely make her smile and laugh. Seen some guys when they do it, it comes across as too strong, tacky or annoying; like asking interview-style questions, or fucking dense not able to read the room whether she’s busy or not. I mean imagine asking questions to a woman while she’s literally having a tray full of plates, or she’s talking to another customer. In th…
/r/seduction25/03/25 05:17 AM
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Of course you want her to reply faster because she’s the only one you text. On the other hand she said she’s getting too many messages. You know what that means. I bet to her, her pace feels normal as you’re not the only one texting her. Do some rotation like she does. Things feel slowly when you got nothing/no one else to do.
/r/seduction24/03/25 10:22 PM
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Don’t worry about other guys. when you approach in a regular proximity (work place, campus, dancing class, gym) try doing it subtly. You don’t even have to make a move on them on the spot. People watch, especially interaction between a man and a woman. Just make a small talk, get their numbers, and follow up on the phone and take it somewhere else. Not trying to undermining women, but very often I see when women talk about guys they pander to each other. Let’s say for example one woman says John…
/r/seduction24/03/25 10:12 PM
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What was so important that you gotta leave after you approached her? Close on her instead of having a goal to just get her number. Each time I get their numbers I struggle to get the conversation flowing. Getting a number is NOT an accomplishment. Imagine a salesman knocking on your door and after a small talk he tells you “let’s meet again, I’ll call you tomorrow ok?” Clearly it doesn’t make sense from his POV. He plans to create another opportunity that might not happen yet while he skips the …
/r/seduction24/03/25 10:00 PM
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From my experience it’s less likely you be able to do it. 80 hrs a week means you only have enough time to work and sleep. By the time you got your days off you probably get so tired after a week you just wanna chill. Maybe if you get a hookup at work then yeah. But I would focus on the financial aspect first.
/r/seduction24/03/25 01:32 PM
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“Just be hot looking bro, don’t need the game” “Just be wealthy bro, don’t need the game” “Just be 6’7 tall bro, don’t need the game” Same vibe.
/r/seduction24/03/25 01:21 PM
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Most attraction is not either 0 or 100. If you are not fully attracted to them but it’s like 75% or above then go for it. I always ask myself “can I see myself going out with her?” If it’s not an immediate yes, then I’d skip. Maybe by the time you’re getting to know them better the level of attraction will increase, who knows.
/r/seduction24/03/25 11:17 AM
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I mean there are people who are big yappers so if she is one then I wouldn’t take it further than it is. Regarding the awkward kiss, probably nervous. No biggie.
/r/seduction23/03/25 07:37 PM
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Are you asking about her yapping or her kiss?
/r/seduction23/03/25 07:21 PM
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The big problem with long distance is since you haven’t physically met her, your brain created this perception of her based on limited images and stories you had gathered. This is why I never recommend long distance. I had a first hand experience myself, the girl I met online spent time with me for like a week vacation years ago. It’s not as smooth I thought it would be. And she turned out to be a totally different person than I imagined her to be. If you asked me if I would do it again; absolut…
/r/seduction23/03/25 06:20 PM
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No, guard your heart at least past 3rd date. This is how guys catch feelings so quickly. Why do you involve your feelings in your initial convos? Even women don’t do that.
/r/seduction23/03/25 02:10 PM
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Talking to multiple women = being fake? I don’t get it.
/r/seduction23/03/25 02:03 PM
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It’s the abundance concept. Girls or women have been doing it for ages, while men just got introduced to this mindset in the last 20 years. This is why once in a while you see a post here from a guy wondering why a woman he’s talking to responds slowly. Yeah generally she’s just not talking to you, apart from busy in her daily life doing other things too. Guys incorrectly think that laser-focusing on 1 woman will make her think that he’s the best man she could get. While on the other hand she pr…
/r/seduction23/03/25 01:31 PM
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Beginning of this year? That’s still fresh. It sounds like both of you need closure, not just you. But I agree it comes with land mines. Hope you get what you’re looking for.
/r/seduction23/03/25 01:17 PM
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You know she always had the option to not tell you, but she did, anyway. If I were you I’d appreciate her for being honest.
/r/seduction23/03/25 10:03 AM
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No it’s not. But when she wasn’t happy about that, you should’ve turned that frown upside down. Instead you doubled down by asking her number smh lol. Like what did you think, she’s gonna give it to you after you forgetting her name?
/r/seduction23/03/25 09:58 AM
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You know there are some people in my whatsapp that I never save their numbers, here’s some: my uncle who always spam msg every family member with his daily preach writing with bible verses included my hs friend who always spam msg people about his self-claimed successful business ideas so people can invest in them my ex who once in a while msg me asking why I never do this or that, or asking me why I never reply or why we broke up my coworker who always sends me walls of text which I think shoul…
/r/seduction22/03/25 09:15 PM
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You can’t really know people unless you spend time with them. The word time is doing the heavy lifting there. If you think you can just meet good girls randomly then you just basically gamble. I would say instead of doing cold approach be it day or night game, expand your social circles. There are attractive women I personally know that can be good to talk with and probably good in bed, too. But I wouldn’t consider them as good in a long-term relationship; that’s how I knew. Through time. Not “w…
/r/seduction22/03/25 03:49 PM
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I think labelling her “work crush” isn’t very helpful, kinda subconsciously suggest you that you’re…. Crushed? LoL. Anyway, just tell yourself that you like her. That’s it. No need to put her on a pedestal that has made you feel weak and speechless when you see her. Treat her like you treat other colleagues. It’s probably a bit too late as you already caught feelings, you’re basically sabotaging yourself. Get rid of your feelings: tell yourself that you don’t really know her well that you could …
/r/seduction22/03/25 01:49 AM
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Been to Vegas quite a few times, and even tho Idk where he got the % numbers but I know it’s not zero. Escorts in Vegas are fairly easy to notice: they are flashy, full of cleavages, and so familiar with the people and the area. Majority of massage services you find in the local phone book or offered by the hotels are also a front for escort services. Don’t ask me how I know.
/r/seduction22/03/25 01:28 AM
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Are you sure it’s feeling? I mean it could be, but guys tend to misinterpret their sex drive with feelings. This is why guys have post-nut clarity. We thought we liked or loved her, but after sex we find out that the feeling is gone. Maybe for you it’s not sex (yet), but you pursue her validation/approval so when she rejects you then your feeling is gone.
/r/seduction21/03/25 08:09 PM
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Most interactions are or should be fluid. They can move forward from “just friends” to lovers”, or from “coworkers” to “work wife” even to “real wife”, and the other way around can happen, too. In all my life I’ve slept with friends, neighbors, wives, coworkers, and a couple times my own bosses. Are there regrets? Yeah sure. But so far I don’t get any problems. People sleep around more often than you thought. I remember at my old workplace years ago in the beginning of my seduction journey where…
/r/seduction21/03/25 07:54 PM
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Probably not. This is why I don’t like drinking too much or doing drugs while out there, not because of morality but you could get ED out of sudden. Lesson learned.
/r/seduction21/03/25 12:23 PM
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It’s hard to say because every individual is different. This is where religions come in because they give a big purpose of life to their followers. But for the rest, it seems like you gotta find your own. You said you love to surf and languages. Why don’t you start from there? Maybe open up a small class for people who wanna learn how to surf. Or learn a new language. Make a small goal that you can be fluent in 2-3 years for example, so everyday you gotta make a small step of building your gramm…
/r/seduction20/03/25 10:06 PM
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Now your logic dictates that you’re wasting opportunities. Time to be on the same page with it.
/r/seduction19/03/25 04:43 PM
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She probably doesn’t match your energy (read: she’s not interested). I would guess she keeps you interested because she sees you as an asset, work-wise. If I were you I’d match her energy by stepping back see if she steps forward, if not then move on.
/r/seduction18/03/25 02:13 PM
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There’s nothing to fix because you’re in a good spot now. From your story it sounds like she’s jealous and rethink her moves thus she backs off a bit. What she did was normal, or even ideal. The whole theme of any relationship; be it a romantic one or even professional one in office —- is about RECIPROCATION. Meaning, if you escalate or make a move, then you need to see if your counterpart (applies to men and women) reciprocates. If he/she doesn’t, then you step back. “It takes 2 to tango.” What…
/r/seduction17/03/25 08:15 PM
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I agree with what you said, but you missed my point. Back up a little bit. Before getting into the stage of “she’s interested in me”, there’s a stage of “is she interested in me?”
/r/seduction17/03/25 11:59 AM
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Tldr: to answer your question, yes the game exists and it’s doable. But in order to correctly approach a woman regardless of your own flaws and limitation, you gotta see the whole thing with the correct mindset. Here’s why: You come at the right conclusion if you read all the methods these so-called coaches teach. This is why some, if not many, PUA grads have turned into incels or/and voluntary celibates. Because after trying the methods, it’s either: they found out it didn’t work most of the ti…
/r/seduction16/03/25 10:35 PM
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Nah, if it’s a club then either you close on her that night or you lose her for good. You just don’t ask for her number, 9 out of 10 she won’t respond the next day you call her. I would tag team with her to get rid of your wing. “Seems like my friend here having problems finding a girl to talk to. Should we help him out?” Subtly putting her and you as a couple, while simultaneously implying to your idiot friend the work in progress and he needs to walk away.
/r/seduction16/03/25 05:12 PM
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If they like you then you have zero to fear. You can’t imagine how often or how many guys think a woman is into him just because she smiles at him.
/r/seduction16/03/25 01:55 PM
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Good-looking guys are like millionaires or billionaires; they fully rely on their looks or their money to get girls. On one hand yes it’s much easier for them to get women. But on the other hand… they actually got no game. Take that variable away from them, then their life is ruined. We can always maximize the results by keep upgrading ourselves. It’s that simple, but yes it’s not easy.
/r/seduction16/03/25 01:49 PM
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The problem is you only categorize people (in this case, men. But applied to women as well, I believe) as good-looking and non-good looking/ugly. In reality it’s not that simple. I always expand it to 3 categories: ugly average good looking. Vast majority of people will fall into average group (thus: average). Idk about you but if you’re a random person there’s a much bigger chance you fall into average category. So if you’re an average person, you shouldn’t be hopeless. Heck, even if you think …
/r/seduction16/03/25 03:13 AM
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when I think about how much effort I need to put in just to maybe get a woman somewhat interested in me. That’s your problem right there. Most people have instinctive response in a basic sense of doing stuff; for example flight vs fight regarding a situation or a challenge need to be dealt with. Similarly, we also either try to impress vs express. I’m not saying trying to impress is wrong. But trying to impress should be quick and easy. For example if you wanna stand out, you wear something uniq…
/r/seduction15/03/25 09:32 PM
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Good! I like when guys are not defensive.
/r/seduction15/03/25 07:40 PM
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Back in the day there’s a quote/story that basically says “if a hot guy drives a BMW, girls will think he must be successful in life. If an ugly guy drives the same car, they will think he works as a chauffeur.” There’s some truth in that no matter how shallow the parable is. If you think it’s about looks, you’re only halfway there. Looks are only part of the package. It’s about what you are, who you are, and how you carry yourself. This is why any people or courses that teach what line to say, …
/r/seduction15/03/25 07:02 PM
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You mentioned the keyword in your post: FUN. They are fun to be around with. This is the same thing that happens to girls who always fall for so-called assholes or bad boys: They are fun to be around with. Like a mythical crow that is attracted to shiny objects, we tend to be attracted to shiny people. They stand out from the rest. They put colors in a room full of black and white. The thing about a (serious) relationship it will get bland and boring eventually. Sure people love to spice up thei…
/r/seduction15/03/25 06:14 PM
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He woke up
/r/seduction15/03/25 04:51 PM
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Tbh this has happened to me in the past, but the other way around. I totally forgot she mentioned something that needed my confirmation. Something that I considered she mentioned it just in passing. She “accused” me as not being attentive enough or had not prioritized her in my daily life. Either way she’s probably right. I just wasn’t aware of that at the moment. If I were you I would reach out and casually ask her. It’s totally up to you whether you see it as a big deal or no. But maybe that f…
/r/seduction15/03/25 04:48 PM
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“Last night in the city”, so you’re hoping to score before you leave? With this in the background, I can always tell it affected the way you approach. And not many guys are aware, but typically women know about “last day / last night in the city so I gotta get some” approaches. I mean, not many of them willing to be used a sex doll before the guy goes back home.
/r/seduction15/03/25 12:46 PM
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How often do you talk to her in a day? Did you treat her like your friend where you also share stories and vent out regularly? Typical cases in this sub where the girl is passive: the guy is so intense in the relationship, meaning the expectation is high already, daily talk for hours and stuff like that. I mean, it used to be women who complained about their men being passive. Guess now it’s the other way around? I would say the latter; she’s not as invested as you are. Maybe try to go down a no…
/r/seduction15/03/25 12:36 PM
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Direct is only when you know 100% she’s into you. But obviously the problem is not about whether direct or not, but about whether you know for sure she’s into you or not. It’s not only reading the signs /IoI correctly, but the sexual tension is already there.
/r/seduction14/03/25 12:56 AM
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The only reason that it’s really good - and similar other places- because the city is already conditioned for fun and entertainment. Imagine a night club, but a big city - that’s Vegas. Think of all people who are visiting Vegas being persuaded by the city’s famous slogan “what happens here, stays here.” Their mind will start wandering around tempted to do wild things. If all the conditionings in a place are aligned for you to approach then what you can do as a guy is to free ride them.
/r/seduction13/03/25 04:04 PM
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The most likely scenario that’s probably happened is these pretty girls can tell that you’ve been trying to approach them from your body language; you could be seen walking toward them and suddenly taking a u turn because you saw them talking to other guys; or you could be seen acting weird and nervous before talking to them; or you could be be seen staring at them and turning your head the other way when they caught you doing that. Bottom line; when girls or women see this behavior from a guy, …
/r/seduction10/03/25 03:49 AM
1

Take all the knowledge you can, a lot of sources on the internet are free. But one thing often overlooked is we are talking about skillsets, not just knowledge. So you gotta practice what you have learned. I would even go farther by saying practice is more important than knowledge. A lot of players don’t even know about pickup, seduction methods, etc but they do it well because they learn by trial and error. While on the other hand some guys think they become an expert because all the knowledge …
/r/seduction10/03/25 02:22 AM
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As much as I love day game (more than night game), I can tell you that a night game is much easier for quick hookups. This situation is a good example of why. You don’t even have to rely on talking (much). You have “an excuse” to not talk much because of the loud music. What you gotta do instead is relying on close proximity thus easier escalation. It’s more like 80% physical, 20% verbal. If you wanna open just kinda yell close to her ear (“I love this song, dance with me!” or “show me what you …
/r/seduction09/03/25 06:04 PM
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Because you actually know the answer you’re just venting out here. You said it yourself, you like doing A and you don’t like doing B. You want people to tell you to choose B? The answer is as clear as day in your own post. Cmon man use your common sense.
/r/seduction09/03/25 01:28 PM
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Here lemme summarize your post: “Help me choose A or B. I don’t like A here’s why. I like B here’s why. which one I should choose A or B.”
/r/seduction09/03/25 01:20 PM
1

Asking questions is not the best way to build rapport.
/r/seduction07/03/25 11:35 PM
1

Female pickup artists exist just like the male ones. But not many of them. I happened to meet one of them a few years back. After talking with her for an hour or two I realized the basic principles are pretty similar.
/r/seduction07/03/25 06:12 PM
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styling consultation: most styling advices are free on Youtube. You can DIY learn about them. Especially if you’re a bit better than average guys then you won’t need this paid consultation. wardrobe upgrades: Yes, it’s a must. This all comes hand in hand with the previous point. Never buy any wardrobe unless you know some basic about styling outfits. fitness program: it’s a must. A private trainer is recommended/better than going solo. dental work: it’s a must. Not even for whitening or other co…
/r/seduction07/03/25 01:32 AM
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It’s not always a shit test. She could just honestly tell you the situation. But I still don’t get the “we can do it”, as in hook up? Or exchanging numbers? If you don’t wanna do it that’s fine. People stick to their own rules or principles. But just because one is off the market doesn’t mean she or he has no options on the table. This is why you see lot of people can start a new relationship within a week or 2 after their breakup. The dating/relationship market is pretty fluid, not rigid on the…
/r/seduction04/03/25 04:11 PM
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When I first started my journey I was like you, things like this really made me overthink on everything. Try to look at the results in a bigger picture, not just days or weeks. I would see all the results within a year basis. Zoom out instead of zoom in. If you see the annual trend is good then you’re good.
/r/seduction04/03/25 04:50 AM
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Double text is generally a no no. But in your case your goal now is no longer to approach her. Your goal now is just to be a man by apologizing. Everything else is irrelevant at this point. Just be grateful if she accepts your apology.
/r/seduction04/03/25 04:37 AM
1

“Sorry for being too harsh on you. Didn’t really mean to. I’d like to see you for the notes if you haven’t changed your mind. If you have, I understand.”
/r/seduction04/03/25 04:27 AM
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You sound like a girl who thinks that “oh men have done this shit before so I ain’t gonna fall into this trap again” while smacking their lips and snapping their fingers. You seen those women, they think they’re slick but we guys know their trauma in the past made them paranoid and not right in the head.
/r/seduction04/03/25 04:24 AM
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So what? Women typically take longer to respond especially when she overthinks it. Maybe she thinks a lot on how to properly respond to you. But her response was clearly an escalation on her part. You were winning up to that point. I’ve had women respond quickly but end up just bouncing. And I’ve had women reply days or even a week and we ended up in bed. Besides she’s not your gf or you’re not her dad, she got no obligation to how fast she needs to reply to you. Yes after that you surely would …
/r/seduction04/03/25 04:16 AM
2

Yeah you fumbled. She gave you an invitation and you spit on her. It wasn’t even a chase. She invited you.
/r/seduction04/03/25 04:08 AM
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Because you’re 6’2 and like you said attractive. So it’s easy for you when a woman approaches you but not the other way around. Got a couple friends that are like you, over 6’ tall and good looking, I can assume all their life basically everything is handed to them. A lot of women fall for them so to them it’s just like choosing a soda out of a vending machine. They’re not used to hunt alone looking for foods in the middle of the jungle. While most guys hit on women often on daily basis, they ju…
/r/seduction04/03/25 04:03 AM
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“Ugghh… I can already imagine those nails scratching my skin. That’s gotta sting.” And show it with your face you imagining the pain. Did it once with a hot nail stylist whom I called “Mila Kunis doppelganger” days later. She just laughed and said most guys usually compliment her nails. Then she asked for my hand and slowly scratch it “see, it’s not painful is it?” She said. She broke the touch barrier for me as I intended to. It’s just snowballing from there.
/r/seduction04/03/25 01:11 AM
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She broadcasted that to all guys, not just you. She wants all the attention. The question would be: will she reciprocate to all the guys’ attentions? Probably not, it’d be time consuming. People (men included) always say they want this and that, but in reality their behavior can sway to the other way because they’re easily triggered. Just look at how a guy wants a submissive girl, but once he got ignored he will chase her down to hell and willing to do everything for her in order to “conquer” he…
/r/seduction03/03/25 12:04 PM
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Late 20’s. It’s full of up and down. There were times you felt like you’re on top of the world as you kept scoring, then 1 rejection knocked you out like all you’ve experienced were meaningless. And on the other hand there’s a phase where you got rejected a lot then 1 lay could make you feel like in heaven. Looks and appearance: 60-70%. I wouldn’t rely so much on looks. If I did that means I got no game.
/r/seduction03/03/25 12:45 AM
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Based on what you said I don’t see anything wrong that you did during the dates. It’s good to always try to improve on yourself, but sometimes you just don’t do anything wrong. Maybe there’s no chemistry after all. Or maybe they just wanted free dinner lol. Don’t be too hard on yourself. Take the rejection on the chin like a fighter, I see you still standing.
/r/seduction03/03/25 12:35 AM
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Now I wonder which one comes first, the chicken or the egg?
/r/seduction03/03/25 12:30 AM
2

Were the women pretty receptive in general when you approached them? I’m genuinely curious the difference between chinese and japanese women characteristically speaking. Are the chinese ones open to the ideas of casual dates/relationship? I’ve found the latter are pretty similar to western ones.
/r/seduction02/03/25 07:10 PM
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Promiscuity happens everywhere. I seen people literally fucking in a bar in the US couple times. I visited underground clubs in the middle east where men and women dance and kiss like they are not in the middle east. In Japan you can have sex with prostitutes and NOT considered cheating and women there are typically okay with that, but you are called a cheater if you constantly talk to your woman friend (not even sex) without your girlfriend knowing. Funny huh? The guys you mentioned sound like …
/r/seduction02/03/25 04:56 PM
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Why do you care so much about married people going to clubs? Even if they are single, doesn’t mean they are available for you. On the other hand, if they are married or have a bf yet attracted to you they might be tempted to spread their legs for you. And pickup lines… the only way pickup lines work is because they function as an ice breaker. That’s it. This is why pickup lines are not encouraged to use. Yes you could use it, but use it more like a joke or even a self-deprecating humor. You’ve g…
/r/seduction02/03/25 04:35 PM
1

You can do both at once. It’s called multitasking.
/r/seduction02/03/25 04:23 PM
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Idk man, i’m not her lol. Regardless what approach method or what love potion you use, if she’s not interested then she’s not interested. Just shoot your shot.
/r/seduction02/03/25 04:15 AM
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I would just go back there and ask her to help you choose the menu she thinks the best and sit down with you while you try the food. No biggie. If she responds positively then good for you. If she declines, then take the rejection gracefully. Life goes on.
/r/seduction02/03/25 03:25 AM
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True. Wait until you hear stories of women ghosting men even after sex. People tend to see attraction as a fixed state, but not so with some others. It’s not about women vs men, because my attraction toward women is not a fixed state either. I can get attracted easily but can lose it easily too. Bottom line: don’t put her on a pedestal. Should I give some time and try later? So far to me the best way to do it is by having options; not only options will get you busy (since you have several instea…
/r/seduction01/03/25 09:43 PM
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Girls giving their IG or number can’t always be interpreted as interested. Some, if not many, do it out of being polite. If you are aware of this fact, it will also hit you with another bitter reality that “so if the girl smiles at me, she’s not necessarily interested in me. Because even her giving her number doesn’t always mean that, either.” When you said “whatever I said she didn’t respond well” I assume you did multiple attempts. I suggest next time just do 1 attempt and start from there. Do…
/r/seduction01/03/25 08:30 PM
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Idk what it is in your country, but I know there are some countries where people do monthly rent. Heck, there’s even some countries where people can use a hotel room for like only an hour or 2 just to bang a chick idk if you’re into that lol. I wouldn’t of course.
/r/seduction01/03/25 02:59 PM
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Don’t wanna rain on your parade, buddy but the image I got when reading your story is she tried to be polite with you by answering your interview-style questions but she decided to avoid you afterwards. It’s clearly not a good look. Typically a person would smile at you to show that she’s at least neutral (or possibly receptive) toward you. I would just ignore her or the most say hi to her next time you see her. The mindset behind it is “hey you’re pretty attractive but not that attractive that …
/r/seduction01/03/25 02:02 PM
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In the long run it’s always good to have your own place. Of course I can’t just say “just get a house, bro!” but I don’t see any other way around it. Logistics cost money we all know that, the difference is whether the cost could be used as an investment, long term speaking. Even I were you I’d probably start from renting an apartment first, either monthly or yearly. It will absolutely be much cheaper than using a hotel or an airbnb. I mean, imagine if your lay numbers are constantly around 8 pe…
/r/seduction01/03/25 01:25 PM
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You don’t have to stop chasing if you didn’t chase in the first place.
/r/seduction01/03/25 06:45 AM
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You can search “escalate” or “escalation” in this sub. Escalation doesn’t have to be physical, it can be verbal too. Even tho physical one can really help. Bottom line is when you go out on a date, then she is your date, not your friend. Don’t treat her like your friend. If she wanted to go out with a friend then she could choose any of her guy friends and not call it a date. Just call it “dining out or hanging out with my friend.” Speaking of conservative, if you wanna talk about conservative i…
/r/seduction01/03/25 06:00 AM
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Disregard what she told you. What people say and do are often 2 different things. When that happens, always focus on what she does, not what she says. Back to my original statement: did you escalate?
/r/seduction01/03/25 05:06 AM
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Just go and have fun. I assume you’re just recently single again, so you deserve it.
/r/seduction01/03/25 05:03 AM
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Idk about your specific case, but I’ve learned that most typical problem is no escalation on a guy’s part. Consequently the women stop putting that much effort… Why did you feel this way? If you believe both of you seem happy and have fun, why do you think she needs to put much effort? Don’t you think if she had fun, she would love to repeat that moment again?
/r/seduction01/03/25 05:00 AM
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Afaik that’s how all pickup artists back in the day created new names for themselves to get immersed into their new identity. It’s called method acting. Some people use it for different reasons. I know some who intentionally use method acting to lose/gain significant weight in order to get an acting role. It’s like they’re in a mission for a period of time to play a role assigned to them. It’s usually successful because people tend to get something done if they feel like it’s a mission need acco…
/r/seduction28/02/25 06:42 AM
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You know how therapists like to repeat what you tell them just in order to reveal them to you that you know the answer all along? You said: - it’s very difficult to do… - honestly hard to tell… - I’m having trouble advocating my needs… - in fears of making her uncomfortable In my own experience if I had to tread carefully or had to babysit her it wouldn’t last long. It could just end up as a petty relationship or a petty sex (if there’s any). Yes you can alway sympathize but for how long? Wouldn…
/r/seduction28/02/25 06:23 AM
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With all the polarizing stuff in recent years, it’s not easy tbh. On one side you have stereotypical blue-haired chicks who say “all men are evil!” and on the other you have the other stereotypical chicks who believe Jesus is white and everyone outside their religion will go hell. I would be very happy if I can find women who are not fit into either 2 stereotypes. My litmus test is always: i don’t care what your political leaning or who you voted for; but can you criticize your side or the polit…
/r/seduction28/02/25 06:07 AM
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Short answer: by actually being busy. Long answer: I would say pretty much the same thing regardless whether they’re men or women. When you accidentally ignore men because you’re not that interested to them, then give the same treatment to men you’re actually attracted to. Just because there’s an actual attraction on your end doesn’t mean it allows you to be (more) persuasive and at times even that turned into being seen too clingy or desperate. It shouldn’t come from “hey lemme pull this trick …
/r/seduction27/02/25 10:18 PM
2

You already reached out then the ball is in her court. Act accordingly.
/r/seduction27/02/25 05:00 PM
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I do this at work, like “planting the seed” by initiating a few convos with a colleague I’m attracted to but next time I see her (we see each other on daily basis) I just don’t talk to her, I intentionally talk to other women or be busy with other stuff. Not faking, but for real. “Don’t to be too available” is the mindset behind it. Or whenever the convo gets a bit more intense in a good way, I just cut it off by saying I gotta go and “talk to you later.” 8 out of 10 times she’s the one who come…
/r/seduction27/02/25 04:59 PM
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If I could guess maybe she can sense that you keep bugging her with the same question like you’re still chasing her even after 3 dates, idk if it’s because of your insecurity or you still haven’t scored yet (sex). If I were you I would let her chase me. Just match her energy. I would have expected her to reply right away with a timeframe. Have you heard a joke “The length of a minute depends on which side of the bathroom door you are on.” A guy could be staying at home waiting for his girl’s rep…
/r/seduction27/02/25 04:26 PM
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I mean you can cold approach anytime anywhere, not just “oh I wanna spare my time for an hour or 2 after work”. For example if you go grocery shopping and you see an attractive woman pushing her cart in the aisle where you’re at just approach her.
/r/seduction27/02/25 04:09 PM
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Don’t fix it if it’s not broken. Just keep doing it. Minor suggestions hopefully could help you: have her in your orbit even if you’ll have more options in the future. Be more efficient if you can. Cold approach could be time consuming if you had to spare time every day just to do that. But you could do it as a side hustle while you do other stuff (going shopping, going to a bank, getting coffee at Starbucks). Just be more observant on your surrounding even if you don’t plan to cold approach. Do…
/r/seduction27/02/25 12:38 PM
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I never get the idea of “text game”. It’s borderline weird - correct me if I’m wrong- where I think some people wanna have the sexual interaction thru texting (you know, sex chat etc). Maybe I’m wrong? To me texting is a just means or a passage to physically connect to her. So I would assume if it fizzles out: the guy probably just ran around in the text game without taking it to real physical life, either by being too chatty or taking too long. But of course there are some other variables depen…
/r/seduction26/02/25 05:00 PM
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No you weren’t born with it, it’s all physical shape that’s why there’s “glowing up” term where people typically work on themselves to be physically better. Major points I think are the basic first like physically fit, hygienic, and show your features; biceps, triceps, the way you carry yourself etc. I think a woman could explain it better than any guys. But on women I believe if they’re also physically fit and don’t hesitate showing their good features as well (cleavage, mini skirt, tight shirt…
/r/seduction26/02/25 04:19 PM
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You don’t get it, do you? You are preaching the same thing what this sub has been about since the last 10-12 years. Even people came up with terms and lingos and books on how to seduce women. There was an MTV reality show 12 years ago by Mystery about picking up women. Lemme repeat it: 12 years ago. That was when you were 12 years old and many guys here were in college or already graduated college. The world of pick up artists has been so saturated that it’s getting parodied and satirized. That’…
/r/seduction26/02/25 04:02 PM
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It’s about life, including human’s behaviors in it. You wouldn’t believe how many mediocre people I see that climb up the ladder because they just know how to climb it, not because they know how to do their job properly. They don’t go above and beyond. They just do that one or two times because the timing is right. Same thing with approaching a woman; going above and beyond makes you look needy and desperate. Making yourself always available at work makes your boss and colleagues think they can …
/r/seduction26/02/25 12:36 PM
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No. Texting her and replying to her text are okay. But you shouldn’t keep texting her. Making yourself always available for her lowers your value. Like you’re trying too hard (to impress) and your life is pretty much that, aka boring and predictable.
/r/seduction26/02/25 12:06 PM
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Your insecurity is showing lol. She probably has some other guys stacked in her roster so typically when a woman doesn’t reply fast she’s busy replying other guys, which is totally okay.. You should do the same. With other women obviously.
/r/seduction26/02/25 11:27 AM
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I never understand this scenario where you gotta go back to ask a woman her name or phone number. I read these kinda posts in this sub before and I’m like, what’s going on in your head, that you slowly realized that you’re attracted to her afterwards, not when you saw her in person? To answer your question: I wouldn’t do either. “Going back” approach would only be looking good in movies. You know, like “I can’t stop thinking about you that’s why I came back.” But in reality it’s more like “this …
/r/seduction25/02/25 09:03 PM
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This part is my favorite. It ends with “she tied you to the kitchen chair” lol
/r/seduction25/02/25 05:53 PM
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No, you broaden the definition of the word. There’s a reason why the connotation of manipulation is negative and it is even illegal in many cases. Not just “it’s your opinion, bruh” nor it’s a just perception of the word. A boss can’t sleep with his employee because he can be sued for illegally using his power as boss to have sex with her. You can’t be like Bill Cosby putting drugs in women’s drinks so he can easily sleep with them without them having to resist. You can’t just go to women and cl…
/r/seduction25/02/25 04:49 AM
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Bro, just give up. You don’t even know the difference between persuasion, seduction, and manipulation. A Mcdonald’s TV ad makes you want to buy its burger? That’s persuasion. You get a girl to start perceiving you as standout from other guys? That’s seduction. You wanna sleep with a woman who’s under drug/alcohol influence or by using your parent’s car to impress her? That’s manipulation. And I never see anyone here teaches men to be “too nice”. It’s frowned upon in this sub. Many of us here kno…
/r/seduction25/02/25 04:28 AM
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There is no such thing as “replied very late” if she’s not your gf or your wife. She has no obligation when to reply. She can reply a minute after your text or she can reply a day after. Did you imply that she replied very late in your text? If that’s the case maybe that’s why.
/r/seduction24/02/25 11:55 PM
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I text her all the time Yeah, no, don’t do that.
/r/seduction24/02/25 10:22 PM
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She’s what I call a slow burner. If I were you next time you see her just act normal and keep physically close to her (touching, etc) but no kiss or any sexual interaction. The purpose is to let her see that your intention is not only to fuck her. From your story it sounds that she’s receptive but she needs assurance from you and that takes a bit more time than usual.
/r/seduction24/02/25 10:11 PM
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Shit, by the title I thought I was gonna watch a magic trick.
/r/seduction24/02/25 10:00 PM
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The only thing I disagree with the video is that is not exclusively done by women. Men pull away too, well at least I did lol. Afaik people pull away for different reasons. But the typical ones are because of boredom and there’s no more sparks. I’ve seen couples saying “I love you” before hanging up the phone then they just roll their eyes as if they’re disgusted saying that shit. Saying it used to be lovely and romantic, but all that turned into a boring routine. Say it when you mean it, when y…
/r/seduction24/02/25 09:50 PM
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Been there done that. There’s always some more passion when you sleep with someone’s gf of wife. Maybe the feeling that you’re doing something taboo/socially frowned upon and the tension of not wanting to get caught really added to the fire. If I were you I’d just act like she’s single. It’s pretty much the same layout. But of course I wouldn’t get serious with her. Always use a rubber.
/r/seduction24/02/25 09:29 PM
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Have you heard an old popular story of how a girl attended a funeral of her relative and she saw a stranger cute guy but didn’t get a chance to approach him? Then for some reason weeks later her sister died and the police found out she was murdered by her. Her motive: she wanted to see him again. She thinks that by repeating the pattern (a funeral), she might have a chance to see him again. That was an extreme example of how a manipulator operates. Or take a daily regular example of how a child …
/r/seduction24/02/25 09:21 PM
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Being a simp and “nice boys” is on 1 extreme, if you found out that didn’t work, that doesn’t mean you have to swing hard to another extreme (assholes, bad boys, abusers, play hard to get). There’s always middle ground that’s where the game’s at.
/r/seduction24/02/25 01:31 PM
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I usually try to avoid bringing girls home same night unless they give me obvious signs Night game is where you gotta close on her right there. Vast majority of the time where guys try to reconnect the next day after night game the woman won’t respond and act like total strangers, and that totally makes sense. If I were you I’d try to escalate regardless of the signs. If you don’t, you’d end up with the same situation anyway (no response from her the next day).
/r/seduction23/02/25 11:30 PM
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I saw it as an accidental push-pull. She pulled herself towards you but you pushed her away. Now she’s avoiding you then time for you to pull her closer. I’d talk to her. If she brought up that particular moment just apologize and explain what happened. No biggie.
/r/seduction23/02/25 11:24 PM
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That’s what I thought. “Much ado about nothing”. Many posts in this sub are about “she looked at me, I looked back at her. What do I do guys?” type of situation that the rest of the story happens in OP’s head. Just escalate by asking her out if OP truly believes she’s attracted to him and getting jealous or… … leave her alone. I would go for this one. If she’s really as hot as OP has said, I believe there’s other guys outside work lining up for her, something that OP hasn’t taken into account.
/r/seduction23/02/25 11:20 PM
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Sometimes I say “I know”, too but of course I say it jokingly. I’ve fucked a lot of girls, not just talked to them, but that didn’t get into my head nor think that “oh I’m that good!” I wouldn’t take myself seriously as I know I sometimes fumble too and that’s okay. Being confident means that you’re also aware that you got flaws and that’s okay. The difference with narcissism is it always comes too strong that people who are familiar with it can tell there’s deep insecurity hidden beneath it. Li…
/r/seduction23/02/25 02:01 PM
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Lower your expectation. Much much lower. When you’re young and inexperienced, there will be lots of mishaps and hiccups. And that’s okay. Totally normal. All those are what makes it perfect memorable. What would you do? Give him an opportunity to take charge. If he stumbles, help him up, give him cues on what you love. If he doesn’t escalate, step up and slightly touch him so he’ll know that touching you is okay and he can be comfortable on physically escalating on you.
/r/seduction23/02/25 03:08 AM
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Work on your physics (Go to the gym) Lose weight or gain weight depending on your current weight. Get a make over, ask your barber or hair stylist how to get a better haircut. Upgrade your outfit/wardwrobe, throw away or donate your old clothes. Buy not just new ones but better ones. Focus on the quality of the clothes, not the quantity. Get a new pair of shoes, a belt, a ring, a new wallet. Small accessories but women look at them, too. They can tell you’re a high-value man from small things yo…
/r/seduction22/02/25 11:16 PM
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The true confidence comes from within. I know it sounds cliche, but it’s true. At least it will last longer in my experience. How does it come from within? By loving and accepting yourself first. If your confidence comes from people’s compliments, love bombing, validation, believe me it’s gonna be like filling gas in your car. It can be filled full tank but it will be empty again and you need to refill it again. Wash, rinse, repeat. This is how a lot of women on dating apps operate. When their t…
/r/seduction22/02/25 10:51 PM
1

6’3 with dreads? Oh hi, Post Malone!
/r/seduction22/02/25 07:16 PM
2

Yeah try that. I thought you got rejected when you asked to take them home. You didn’t even get to that point yet. “We should take this fun somewhere else” is a typical cue to a woman and most likely they understand what you mean. To different venues, different clubs, her house, your house. Start from there.
/r/seduction22/02/25 06:28 PM
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Day and night games are only means to your goal. Doesn’t matter what your means are if your social skills suck. What I’m saying is your focus should be on improving your social skills. Whether you get a girl from a club, a grocery store, a church, your neighborhood, school, or office, it all depends on whether you got game (read: social skills).
/r/seduction22/02/25 06:25 PM
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This is interesting. When I did my night game very often years ago whenever I did making out with a woman it’s like 99% of the time I took her home or went to her house. Way easier than trying to open and spark interests in her. So I wonder what you said to her or what you did that you just stopped at making out.
/r/seduction22/02/25 06:17 PM
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My question to your question: Why do men need to be bothered by the lack of skills of women in texting? Especially if the woman is really receptive in person. Because I don’t get off by the superior skill of a woman’s text. I don’t get horny by reading her texts. Kiss me, blow me, and fuck me then I’d be happy. I don’t care if she only says one word in her texts. I don’t care if she replied to my text hours later. I don’t care if her texts have a lot of grammar mistakes. Heck I don’t even care i…
/r/seduction22/02/25 05:39 PM
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It’s fucking stupid, like he’s gengis khan trying to “penetrate” the women in an entire city.
/r/seduction22/02/25 02:58 AM
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I just opened YT this is the first shorts that showed up lol. Crazy!
/r/seduction21/02/25 10:15 PM
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I also feel like the attention im getting is addictive and distracting I guess welcome to women’s world? Haha. Nah bro you set the pace. If they think 4 hours is too long for a reply then you can assume they’re unemployed, only have a part time job, or have a mental health issue. But I see what you saying. Dating apps is pretty similar with online buying. You put a product you plan to buy in your online cart, visit it again the next day, surprisingly you’re not feeling it and decided to delete i…
/r/seduction21/02/25 09:31 PM
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What’s the context? I tend to lean that it’s a red flag as you said that she’s said this a lot. Does she say it whenever you guys fight? Or she said that in a teasing, playful way? If it’s the former then yea definitely a red flag I would prepare an exit plan. If the latter then maybe she thinks it’s funny, then I’d just reply something like “oh word! I can relate. A lot of boys tried to talk to me, too.”
/r/seduction21/02/25 09:02 PM
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From your post it sounds like you don’t need any help. This is what most guys go through their life. It’s not weird at all. When you were a teen you just wanted to hump on any cute chicks you see. Years later you realized that sex is only one of the things you need. Because there’s always psychological needs where you need someone to talk to and cherish you.
/r/seduction20/02/25 10:19 PM
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If she’s an adult then she’s responsible for the word “yes” that she says. Obviously when she’s sober and not under gun point/drug or alcohol influence. If you hesitate then say no or I don’t know or I’ll think about it. Don’t say yes. Imagine if the table flipped: a guy hesitated to get his gf a ring that she wanted. Then the next day he’d say something like “well I didn’t actually mean it but I was under pressure at the time I don’t wanna see her sad.” Whose fault was it? Absolutely the guy! W…
/r/seduction20/02/25 10:06 PM
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You could text but not that kinda text lol. Matching energy is crucial in dating. If you just want to fill the void prior to date just sends a simple text ie throwing specific ideas regarding the date (“hey I just had *** (food) and it tastes so good, Maybe we should give it a try this Sunday”). But if your goal is to escalate it’s always better to do it in person.
/r/seduction20/02/25 12:06 PM
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Better in what way? If you talk about bonding, I can tell you sleeping with someone from your circle feels better in quality (bonding-wise) than someone that you met from cold approach. This is coming from someone who finally stopped counting body counts from just using cold approaches. You know stuff like fast food, fast fashion: Quicker for you, but quality is secondary. So if you don’t wanna spend months and years trying to court your female friend so she can eventually be your gf, then cold …
/r/seduction20/02/25 12:54 AM
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Don’t even have to cold approach a woman. Just approach a stranger everyday; a man a woman doesn’t matter, and initiate a conversation with them, 5-10 mins. Try to limit only 1-2 questions that you can use to ask them just to start the convo, then you gotta expand it without using anymore questions. You can’t have a good date if you don’t know how to converse. You can’t converse well if you don’t practice it with a stranger constantly. Just because you know basic info about your date doesn’t mea…
/r/seduction20/02/25 12:40 AM
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An acquaintance then. Well, idk from your post she sounds like she’s receptive enough. If I were you I’d just ask for her # next time I’d see her again. It’s just her number, not like you’re asking her for sex. No big deal at all. Her giving you her number is the confirmation that the interest is not one sided (since you said “we flirted, touched”). If she doesn’t then all she’s done is try to lead you on. Either way, you’d get your answer so you can act accordingly.
/r/seduction19/02/25 10:57 PM
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You both talked, flirted, touched each other, but you still haven’t got her #? I mean, getting her # or her IG is the easiest part. In fact it shouldn’t be considered a goal. Friends give their # to each other. Is she your classmate, your coworker, your neighbor? Both of your plans require you to wait? I don’t get it. Why wait? Sounds like she’s reciprocated well idk what else you waiting for. No such thing as “right timing”. Also, “to make her my friend” plan? That’s lame. You guys are friends …
/r/seduction19/02/25 04:13 PM
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If you don’t know how to take it further I’d just assume you’re being delusional as you’re not familiar with interacting with women. People look at each other out in public, sometimes they even smile at you. That doesn’t mean they’re giving you “signals”, it’s just part of common courtesy.
/r/seduction19/02/25 03:56 AM
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Go to a church, can’t go wrong. But even then, young sunday school teachers and pastors’ wives that I’ve met are freaks in sheets.
/r/seduction19/02/25 03:27 AM
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Throwing questions should be at the minimum. There are things that can make people, even strangers, open up to you. The other commenter has already said some of the ways. A short-story telling can always be a good way. And it’s not that people are self-centered. Maybe you come a bit too strong, or you asking questions makes them suspicious of your agenda (“who tf is this guy, he just asked my name a minute ago and already started being nosy?”). Or maybe the way you carry yourself (you look nervo…
/r/seduction19/02/25 03:11 AM
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We can always multitask. Having fun with a mission is still fun.
/r/seduction19/02/25 02:21 AM
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“Which I usually can do” but if that was the case you wouldn’t post this problem. Guys with social skills issue would deal the same problem either thru apps or irl. This is why even for guys with lots of matches on dating apps they will fumble either trying to make the first date happen or stuck on first date only.
/r/seduction18/02/25 08:55 PM
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Then until they meet you in person and start talking to you, don’t you think the same pattern will repeat? Regardless they still need to talk to you. So the problem is not even dating apps or approaching strangers, but finding out why they aren’t interested after talking to you.
/r/seduction18/02/25 05:41 PM
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Whenever someone goes into an uncharted territory, he or she will start overthink it. For example, imagine someone who lives from paycheck to paycheck going to a fancy boutique for the first time where every price tag there is a month of his paychecks at least. He will start thinking that people stare at him. His body will clearly show that he’s nervous or even groggy. People can tell that he can’t afford the stuff there because every time he touches a product he always checks the price tag firs…
/r/seduction18/02/25 03:06 PM
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“You better not still be following your exes”. Sounds like she’s projecting. A relationship is basically a social contract. If she set the rule that you can’t talk to your exes then it should apply to her as well, as the contract is mutual. Either you just leave her (now or eventually) or at the very least you shouldn’t see the rule still valid. Not that you wanna do it as an act of revenge, but more like you’re adapting with the current situation.
/r/seduction18/02/25 11:59 AM
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Because: Women are plenty out there, they’re not scarce that we can’t let our guy friend to shine guys should help each other, and not everyone has the same level of social skills. This is what lacks in men, why women typically have their bff’s, while guys feel the need to compete against each other.
/r/seduction18/02/25 11:43 AM
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I would talk to them first. They wouldn’t know your problem unless you speak up. If some of them don’t care about it then that’s a sign they’re not really good friends. I bet, or hope? At least 1-2 of them will be more considerate. Sometimes people don’t know they’re being dominant by accidentally taking someone else’s space. If my guy friend told me that he needs to hit on a woman I would hype him up in front of her, regardless if he stutters or has a thick accent. But whatever it is, don’t let…
/r/seduction18/02/25 02:05 AM
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She wants your ears but not your D. I’d next her, not worth it.
/r/seduction18/02/25 01:47 AM
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Sure, “mais rien de vulgaire.” But it’s heavily sexual. The fucked up part is you wrote the poem, so it’s not like it’s been written in a card by the manufacturer. It feels like you wanted to gamble with this one “if she likes the poem, then I’m in.” You probably misread the whole thing; thinking that she likes you the way you do her. Well, shot’s fired and she blocked it. Time to move on.
/r/seduction17/02/25 04:36 AM
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“Absolutely. You don’t look like a difficult person to befriend with.”
/r/seduction17/02/25 01:00 AM
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I mean yea a football club is probably guys mostly. I’m talking about general that’s why I mentioned a church. Even then, football guys have their sisters, cousins, or their neighbors. Go to your football friends’ house, hang out with them there. Or ask them what they do on weekend nights so you can tag along. Maybe they have a birthday party to go to, or a Sunday church. Then they can introduce you to their family members, relatives or friends. That’s how circles expand, people get introduced t…
/r/seduction16/02/25 07:46 PM
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Can you talk to stranger males first? See how you deal with it. What do you have in mind when you’re having anxiety? That people around will judge you? That the woman you talk to will reject you? I’m asking this because people can have the same approach anxiety but there are multiple reasons behind it. I have a cousin who’s unable to go to unfamiliar places (like a mall or a party) unless someone he knows comes along. You can also search “approach anxiety” or “exposure therapy” in this sub, lots…
/r/seduction16/02/25 07:36 PM
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I would worry more about having no social skills than having to lose my virginity. Losing your virginity is easy and shouldn’t be a goal a guy wants. I understand the peer pressure that you’re dealing it after comparing yourself to your friends “oh they’ve all done it and I haven’t.” It’s pretty much similar to how teens brag about having done alcohol or cigarettes. In reality, they’re not as big deals as what we thought them to be when we were teens. If I were you I would be active in a social …
/r/seduction16/02/25 07:24 PM
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Not easy but very possible. You gotta stand out from the rest of the guys who are chasing her. First thing first, don’t put her on a pedestal. A lot of guys have done it including me.
/r/seduction16/02/25 05:35 PM
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Sounds like you’re being needy and wanting to be pampered all the time, both in person and online/texting. Usually it’s women who complain about men being dry at texting. Not everyone likes doing texting. If she’s good in person I’d take it as a win.
/r/seduction16/02/25 01:30 PM
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Clearly you can’t turn the time and go back to when you were 16. So that’s not an option. Another option is just lock yourself in the house and drown yourself with tears and regrets for the rest of your life while you do nothing. To me that’s not a viable option. There’s 1 option left: you realize it might be too late for you. But you’re still breathing and kicking. People even get divorced and get to marry other people when they’re 50 and 60 years old. Everyone starts somewhere. It’s up to you,…
/r/seduction16/02/25 12:19 AM
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Look, guys will tell you: don’t hit on workers, don’t hit on coworkers, don’t hit on your neighbors, don’t hit on with a woman if she’s not single, so many “don’t” you start thinking this is like a cult. But I’ve done all the opposite and got laid from all of them and nothing bad happens. Yeah of course, if you see her busy don’t talk to her. I frequent places like my local walmart, target, chipotle, and obviously read the room. Don’t hit on a woman if she’s jogging, running, or wearing a headse…
/r/seduction15/02/25 11:56 PM
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W in my book! What’s the problem? Oh shit I didn’t read the ending.
/r/seduction15/02/25 11:49 PM
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“Whether you think you can do it or you think you can’t, either way you’re right.”
/r/seduction15/02/25 10:57 PM
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Go back there and tell her the information she put was wrong. Have a small talk with her, ask her name and number.
/r/seduction15/02/25 10:50 PM
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Oh you’re so honest I give you that! Yes for guys who are not familiar with women, their jeans are extremely tight, so tight that it’s not easy even for them to take them off. You should see them putting them on, it needs multiple pulls for them to finally wear them. I bet this chick at home will giggle every time she remembers this event.
/r/seduction15/02/25 06:08 PM
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Just do the reverse, unless you don’t know how you do it: Don’t put her on a pedestal. She’s not the only gorgeous one out there. Everyone has flaws. Either you can honestly compromise those flaws or your feelings blind you. Start hanging out with other women. People develop bonds with others in their inner circle. So invite more to your circle. Here comes new challengers. If your investment hasn’t brought any “profitable” returns in a long period of time, it’s time to cut losses. It’s better to…
/r/seduction15/02/25 06:02 PM
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That’s true, unlike in women’s circles, guys don’t typically hang out with other guys when it comes to getting new wardrobes. So there’s no feedbacks on what’s bad or good on us. Tbh I learned all my wardrobe things from internet.
/r/seduction15/02/25 02:47 PM
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Have her on top.
/r/seduction15/02/25 01:42 PM
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DRESS YOUR AGE. I think that’s the most important one when it comes to upgrading your wardrobe. Can’t believe how many middle aged men still wear their clothes like they’re in HS or in mid 20’s. Still trying to be an aspiring rapper, I guess. Even Eminem no longer wears what Eminem used to wear.
/r/seduction15/02/25 01:39 PM
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Important yea, but not that high. Probably 70ish % You’d be surprised how many gym bros act like a fool around women, like they believe their physics will do all the talking for them.
/r/seduction15/02/25 01:25 PM
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Your biggest problem is not about ghosting her, but about why you don’t enjoy being with other women. If I were you I would keep her in my orbit, if she asked me again I’d say yeah let’s go. But at the same time I’d go with the other women. It’s just unusual that you thought a lot about ghosting her but you’re concerned that she might ask you why. Are you gonna be sad if she’s sad? Or has she been intimidating to you? Either way I feel like there’s a bond already created between you and her.
/r/seduction15/02/25 01:16 PM
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You gotta know the underlying causes of oneitis: Putting her on a pedestal (“she’s not like other girls” “she’s so perfect I can’t find any flaws in her”) Catching feelings (“I think I love her” “I want to marry her”) Sunk cost fallacy (“I’ve invested so much in her, might as well keep doing this …”) Validations seeking (“damn it she said no” “I gotta show/prove it to her”) So, which ones are yours? Then start from there.
/r/seduction15/02/25 01:06 PM
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If you go to dating or dating apps subs where women are abound, I noticed that many of them (or top commenters) have said that giving a flower on a first date is a bit too much. I would say it’s a catch 22, really depends on the individual. But hey, aren’t we guys expected to be a good listener?
/r/seduction14/02/25 04:23 PM
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Yeah I get it, the root causes become the outputs and the outputs become the root causes hence vicious cycle. You don’t know which causes what anymore, and this point you feel like there’s no way out as far as you can see. it’s something I’m deeply ashamed of and it makes me feel a complete failure. I think it all started from here. People (including women) can tell whether you’re confident or happy with your life just by the way you carry yourself. I’ve tried talking to people, but it’s hard to…
/r/seduction14/02/25 12:06 PM
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Keyword is receptive. If she pulls her hand back that means she’s not receptive or not at that point (yet). Realistically in an interaction there will be lots of back and forth, pull and push, and that’s normal. In my experience everything going smooth as expected doesn’t happen a lot unless both of you already “clicked” in the beginning.
/r/seduction14/02/25 11:48 AM
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You: you know there’s something else you can ride on, right? Him: what? You: another bike.
/r/seduction14/02/25 04:12 AM
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Any interaction is a good sign. She can even yell at you and call you the worst names in the world and it’s still a good sign. What’s not a good sign is you don’t exist in her world/she totally ignores you. So you can start taking advantage of a good sign you’re having right now and escalate from there. Don’t have a mentality of “oh she only treats me like a friend and just vents out to me about her exes, that means I’m fucked” but more like “this is a good chance for me to cross that touch barr…
/r/seduction14/02/25 04:10 AM
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Can’t imagine the benefits of an online wingman. You wanna call me when you get cold feet while I’m in the middle of the meeting? Not gonna work. If I were you I’d find a local guy. Use those social muscles you’ve been practicing to make a new friend or 2.
/r/seduction13/02/25 10:23 PM
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Generally the first words that come out of your mouth are the honest ones, this is why guys who seem to not have filter in their mouth get laid a lot. It kinda sends the vibe that they’re genuine and not faking or trying (too hard).
/r/seduction13/02/25 10:08 PM
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I mean yea you can do that, it’s kinda subtle sign for the other guys to see that you calling dibs on her. I mean if bro codes apply, guys usually get what you doing and respect it.
/r/seduction13/02/25 10:02 PM
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A lot of girls keep their ex in their orbit. When they got a new bf it’s basically just a trial phase, and she can always bounce back if he doesn’t give what she wants or when shit hits the fan. So it’s not necessarily the ex has better traits or qualities, she just wants both the new bf and the ex. Watch when she’s constantly hot and cold; if this was the pattern then whenever she’s cold she’s basically pulls the ex to her, and vice versa.
/r/seduction13/02/25 09:59 PM
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Initiate on your own, but the thing about this plan tho is another guy might do the same especially if she’s the hottest one. You gotta outsmart all the other guys in the group, it’d suck if you got the “leftover”.
/r/seduction13/02/25 09:49 PM
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Forget focusing on getting numbers, man. It’s useless. You’re not gonna have sex with phone numbers. How would you describe your typical conversation with a woman in bar? I might be able to give you some pointers based on the information you give me.
/r/seduction13/02/25 02:50 AM
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30 seconds to do and 30 years to finally forget the cringe moment. Hahaha just kidding. People have been advising from 3 seconds to 1 minute. The bottom line is don’t overthink it.
/r/seduction12/02/25 04:33 PM
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I think your mistake is the authoritative tone. The power dynamics in society even between individuals are obvious, so of course when you ask them to “come here” their initial reaction is confusion. Like, who are you? You’re not my dad or my boss let alone my bf (the people who could “tell me to come here” and I can oblige without any questions asked). So before you already have that power, you try to exert that imaginary non existent power to them. The feedback is obvious. Imagine if a stranger…
/r/seduction12/02/25 04:17 PM
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That’s what I thought, too. In general girls have been prepped in younger age than boys have when it comes to sex and relationship, so whenever I see this kinda post I always have a couple things in mind: My shallow thinking says these girls might be physically unappealing or unattractive. They never have any interactions with boys since middle or high school (and vice versa, boys never approach them) that’s why they’re clueless. With the spectrum thingie these days (autism, adhd) it’s hard for …
/r/seduction12/02/25 04:05 PM
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Kino, breaking touch barrier, physical escalation, and stuff like that pretty much consist of small escalations. I think the reason most guys overthink is because they think everything happens at once, which is not the case. Steps and escalations no matter how small and subtle they are, are significant. If you hesitate to hug or kiss her, start from something smaller: put your hand on her shoulder or on her back, like when you let her sit down first in a restaurant. Or grab and hold her hand whe…
/r/seduction11/02/25 02:33 AM
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Lemme get this right: You hate talking to strangers but you like the idea that you’re not allowed to have sex with, like someone with a bf aka that’s your kink? LoL yea that’s pretty weird.
/r/seduction09/02/25 02:37 PM
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OP, what makes you think you gotta compliment her every time you see her?
/r/seduction09/02/25 02:29 PM
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Be attractive Don’t be unattractive Like it’s a millionth time I’ve read on Reddit. 2 guys I know killed themselves because of relationship issues were attractive. Some guys who chatted with me here let me see their pics and I’d say they are good looking guys, but why they asked for my advices? Sometimes I feel like these infamous 2 points were made as a joke, or maybe made by unattractive guys thinking that “if only I could be attractive.”
/r/seduction09/02/25 02:27 PM
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She’s breadcrumbing you
/r/seduction09/02/25 01:12 PM
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Direct or indirect doesn’t matter much. It’s not of a what (method), but more of a how (you do whatever approach you use). I would use her RBF to open; “you know what an RBF is? You are so good at it.” RBF is more like a compliment than an insult, meaning that she’s comfortable with her self and maintain boundaries. Typically celebs or high status people do this, subconsciously. When one is pointed out that she’s got an RBF, 9 out of 10 she’ll smile or laugh as most people are not aware of it. B…
/r/seduction09/02/25 03:39 AM
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What I got from this post is you’re trying to compare your current self with your young self, or yourself against your friends. I hate to tell you but that sounds kinda shallow to me. I get this vibe that you could only feel happy or successful if you’re better in comparison. Don’t be too hard on yourself. Life is way deeper than just playing comparative games. Especially against other people? We just tend to look at their life on surface level. Of course people in general wanna look good from t…
/r/seduction09/02/25 03:18 AM
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You know when a person learns how to play a guitar, he or she will develop callus on their fingertips. Or when someone starts doing pushup, similar calluses will appear on the knuckles. I see rejection is pretty much like that. There will be pushbacks and that’s totally normal. Don’t get discouraged and still keep doing it. Once it becomes less painful or even you no longer feel it, you’re getting much closer.
/r/seduction08/02/25 10:13 PM
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There’s this thing called elicitation. Look it up. Basically when you try to ask questions to people (not just women) their guard is automatically up. This is why when we converse in interview-style, the convo becomes bland and goes nowhere. One tries to penetrate and the other end tries to guard it by answering it diplomatically. One is on the offense and the other is on the defense. Elicitation is different, it’s technically just stating something that you observe on the other person: “You loo…
/r/seduction08/02/25 08:00 PM
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“Sounds like you’re trying to convince yourself”
/r/seduction08/02/25 07:49 PM
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Situational openers are always the best. This is why you don’t memorize them or treat them like a script. Be observant: What she wears (“I like your outfit, really matches with your skin”) what color is her hair, does it match with her eye brows (“I wonder if you’ve done it yourself or it costs you a lot” or …. “I wonder which one did you dye, your hair or your brows?”) “Your dimple, how did you do it? You only have 1!” Asking name is okay. But I personally don’t like it. Have you ever watched a…
/r/seduction08/02/25 03:46 PM
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It always depends on how you see her. I’m like you I don’t pay for sex even tho there’s always tit for tat. But there are quite a few times when she’s just different than any other women (between “just fuck buddies” and “you could potentially be a great gf”). If that’s the case then I would give her something not as a payment, but more like a memento which has a sentimental value to it. But again, in the end of the post you’re thinking of ignoring her, so maybe she’s not that memorable.
/r/seduction08/02/25 03:29 PM
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I agree some guys have and some don’t. But one needs to dig deeper on why. I often say anyone can learn social skills, as like any other skills, they are learnable. You might be a nerd like the characters in big bang theory tv series but could slowly learn them and turn into a guy who likes to socialize with strangers (ugly or pretty, male or female, doesn’t matter). But if that’s not the case, I found out that it’s more often than not it’s something to do with mental health and mental backgroun…
/r/seduction08/02/25 03:10 PM
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Yes you overreacted a bit. You don’t even have to say “out of your league”. Unnecessary.
/r/seduction08/02/25 03:00 PM
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Totally normal. Have you heard the song “The first cut is the deepest”? I’d suggest you listen to it, cases like yours always remind me of the song. I think whoever you’ve lost your virginity to would leave you vulnerable. Especially if you still think “there’s hope” or “that could be us if…” The question is whether you really want to move on or not. Maybe things could change if she had a bf or if she’s married, the situations that would have to force you to move on since you wouldn’t have any o…
/r/seduction06/02/25 11:56 PM
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I’ve done a simple “hey how are you?”, to… “you look familiar, have we met before?” to… “I wanna show you a beautiful tree, follow me...” then I grabbed her hand and she complied. None of them are aggressive if you don’t do it like you wanna eat her alive. If you don’t have good social skills, just say hi and ask her name. Don’t overcomplicate and overthink it.
/r/seduction06/02/25 11:37 PM
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Any thoughts how to test it out? Hmmm…. I think you and her just want to stare at each other for years to come. Then it would become the best romantic story you could pass on to your kids and grandkids… Or… get this: talk to her?
/r/seduction06/02/25 11:26 PM
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Search “touch barrier” in this sub, it will help you a lot. Friends make other friends smile and laugh. But breaking the barrier will put you at the next level (”I feel like he’s not like the other guy friends that I have, but he’s not my boyfriend either”).
/r/seduction06/02/25 10:12 PM
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“See that girl over there? Watch she’s gonna reject me, too.”
/r/seduction06/02/25 10:04 PM
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She’s not boring. You’re boring. You’re the one who asked her to grab some beers, but I got the impression that you wanted her to lead (“do you have a better suggestion?”…. seriously?). Tell her where and when, show her that you’ve planned it. Don’t make it sound like you’re so available that you’re free anytime and anywhere, or you’re afraid that she’d reject it. When you asked what’s her plan on Friday, she gave you a bone to chew right there: “Friend has a birthday in…” this is nice enough as…
/r/seduction06/02/25 09:58 PM
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Go to bumble, hingeapp, tinder subs and throw your pics there. A lot of women there will give you good pointers.
/r/seduction06/02/25 11:58 AM
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This is how I see it, too. When you’re in school or college, you probably just compete with the ones in your class. When you work, you just compete with the ones at the same building or your local office. When you’re in your local area, you probably compete with guys within few blocks. People tend to exaggerate their reach power, as if they could hit on every woman in town, go to every single one of 100’s of clubs in the city, or knock on every door. Where in reality, proximity is a huge variabl…
/r/seduction06/02/25 11:54 AM
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Imagine thinking “success with women” because you used a right opener.
/r/seduction06/02/25 11:15 AM
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I believe when some people can’t handle it, it’s because they see sex as something nasty or something very sacred and nothing it between. Try to look at sex as (just) another interaction with another human being. Few years ago I found out that the girl I slept with turned out sleeping with my friend, too. Not in the past, but happening at the same time. I even talked to him and we ended up high-five-ing each other. I didn’t see her as less human, or what she’s doing hurt my ego. I just saw her a…
/r/seduction06/02/25 11:13 AM
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That “Am I not just used to this.” It was your first date. You’re probably just infatuated. Wait until you’ve had a few more dates and see from there.
/r/seduction06/02/25 01:40 AM
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The latter.
/r/seduction06/02/25 01:36 AM
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A major flaw in your question is in the last part: “… that attracts the women you want.” Other people shouldn’t be the focus of your life. You build it because you love doing it FOR YOU.
/r/seduction04/02/25 11:03 PM
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It’s simple; because it’s not within your comfort zone. Remember when you were young and you were scared to go swimming in a swimming pool? You overthought everything: What if I’m drowned What if the water is deeper than I thought What if the water is too cold What if there’s a shark or crocodile in the water What if people see me and know that I can’t swim. So many what-if’s, even tho you know most of them are not true. But based on evolutionary process, it all makes sense. Because your brain w…
/r/seduction04/02/25 10:01 PM
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How often are you gonna meet each other? Once a week? I think if it’s once a week I would still tolerate that. IMO the fundamental of a relationship is physical interactions. Part of biological needs, thus obviously turn into sex. This is why LDR rarely works, one party will end up having a side chick or a side dude to fulfill that need.
/r/seduction04/02/25 11:48 AM
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Oh I know these typical guys, becoming the parody of themselves. I heard someone says if you only fuck a woman to have sex means you’re gay because it’s no different feeling than doing anal to a guy (i was like how did you know?). The only thing to not make you gay is to have sex in order to have kids. These guys try so hard to become super masculine I think they feel insecure they find themselves to be a closeted gay.
/r/seduction04/02/25 11:45 AM
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There’s no such thing as “community” here. There used to be. But as far as I know, that time is far gone. Even if there was a community, or there’s this sub or online groups like this, believe me: we’re not in the majority in men demographics. Never was. Idk if I could speak for anyone here, but in my own experiences, I got into this “community” because a woman said no when I proposed. And I heard similar stories or background as to why some men decided to understand “why?”, even if it takes the…
/r/seduction03/02/25 09:20 AM
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If there’s no formal relationship then there’s no such thing as to “abandon her” as there’s nothing to begin with. I would just keep her in your orbit. This is where other girls come in handy for you. Girls do this all the time, they have a roster of guys they talk to or even date with. It’s very casual that they don’t even remember when the last time they talked to them or what was the last convo they had with them. When I first had my “roster”, some of them even reminded me of what I had said …
/r/seduction03/02/25 02:10 AM
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Just ask her to hang out with you by getting some coffee or brunch, implying it’s not a date. That event alone means more than dozens of texts back and forth.
/r/seduction03/02/25 02:01 AM
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Tbh, if one feels that he’s married the wrong person, there’s a big chance that the other person might feel the same way. The keyword is compatibility. She doesn’t have to be the best for you. Especially if there’s no objective metrics for “best for you” when it comes to feelings and emotions. But one can easily be compatible with someone else even without trying so hard. It doesn’t have to be 100% compatible, but at least you gotta make a minimum threshold that you can tolerate; 70%? 80%? The o…
/r/seduction02/02/25 11:15 AM
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How do you know CIA teaching body science like it’s seen on TV? Because there’s “an ex CIA agent” revealing it on tv series or on youtube? Body language as non verbal communication absolutely is a fact. It becomes pseudoscience because most analysis is skewed or “after the fact”/post-hoc. It’s easy to make an assessment that one is a killer for example, if the killer was already arrested or found guilty in court. Or if I put my arms on my chest, the most common analysis about it is “you are bein…
/r/seduction02/02/25 10:16 AM
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Yeah man next time just ask her. My biggest peeve on the internet is when people ask strangers online about someone they know. For example: “my gf’s bday is coming soon, what perfume should I get for her?” Like dude, you’re the one who knows her why asking strangers? Or you want me to ask her? Why making it more complicated than it is?
/r/seduction02/02/25 09:56 AM
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Let’s say you’re Johnny Depp and you’re aware that lots of women are your fans. Do you think they’ll be like “nah I don’t wanna meet let alone hang out with him. I know all about him from the internet, he’s no longer mysterious”? Or take another extreme example: There’s this typical nerd who, just by looking at him, one kinda know he doesn’t go to the gym, he doesn’t take care of himself, he has nothing to offer on the table. But women have no idea about him, not even his name. Do you think a wo…
/r/seduction02/02/25 01:13 AM
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Get one regardless. When a woman comes over your place and sees there’s no couch, she probably thinks you’re a loner or have no friends. One could tell a whole lot more about you just by your place, ie like whether you cook or not just by looking at your kitchen and fridge. If you wanna have great hookups I’d just move the TV to the bedroom like the other commenter said. A bed is much more comfortable than a couch when it comes to pounding.
/r/seduction01/02/25 10:04 PM
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Simple fact: in general guys don’t approach and talk to unattractive women, I notice this on daily basis especially at work and confirmed by other guys. It sounds simple, right? Why approaching a mid or a fugly one such a waste of time. So when women just try to be nice or polite to us by smiling or looking at us, or even talking to us, many of us misinterpret it as “signals” or “interest”. Our misinterpretation is merely the result of our projection. So again, IOI’s are overrated. The science o…
/r/seduction01/02/25 09:49 PM
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Similar to what I always believe. If you “invest” in someone and only that person, you’d get hurt a lot because you put all eggs in one basket. But if you do diversification aka invest in multiple women, it’s expected when 1-2 of them won’t give you a good ROI.
/r/seduction01/02/25 12:49 PM
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IOI (indicators of interests) or signals are overrated. Quit relying on them. If you wanna talk to a woman then talk to her, regardless of the signals. I think like she is the one and I start to overthink Cmon bro. You just saw her and think she likes you and already think of “she’s the one”? Newsflash: no such thing as “the one”. Either we are more compatible to someone or less compatible. This is why I also like to say that unless she sleeps with you, don’t ever think that she likes you no mat…
/r/seduction01/02/25 12:30 PM
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If you want it to become 2nd nature, there’s no way around it but to practice. It sounds you’ve got lots of knowledge regarding the techniques and methods, but all that don’t matter if you don’t put them into practice. Just like sports, dancing, acting, language, the social skills you need in approaching are no different. The more you practice the more you get the hang of it.
/r/seduction31/01/25 10:50 PM
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Walk of shame
/r/seduction31/01/25 10:37 PM
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No, being rude is just my example of swinging to another extreme. In most cases middle of the road is where it’s at.
/r/seduction31/01/25 02:31 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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