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What is the contradicting on redpill? Narrative

Sufficient_Ferret367

May 7, 2025

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Title	What is the contradicting on redpill? Narrative
Author	Sufficient_Ferret367
Upvotes	1
Comments	9
Date	May 7, 2025 11:24 AM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/ExRedPill
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[–]DenverLabRat 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]divine_simplicity001 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yep it’s biological determinism for men but moral condemnation for women. Red pill „logic“ only gives men that out while holding women to standards they already declared biologically impossible.

Their Number 1 Rule: Excuse men, blame women. Every horrible thing men do is justified with „male nature“ (like abandoning their own children & completely neglecting their parental duties) while „female nature“ is portrayed as evil and exploitative despite telling women they have no power to resist their nature since its just their biological imperative. They always put it the way it suits their agenda since the redpill is designed so that women can’t win no matter what. It’s trying to protect male ego and maintain control.

—> „just nature“ when for mens bad behavior but „bad choices“ or „personal failure“

An example for that double standard

A man cheating on his pregnant wife can’t be blamed bc a „man with options will exercise them“ and she should be happy since it’s „impressive“ as only high value men can cheat BUT if she cheats than she is a stupid worthless whore and deserves to die (literally.. enough incels voice how husbands should kill their cheating wives)

The man’s disloyalty gets excused with his polygamous nature whereas the woman’s nature (desiring the alpha for reproduction but the beta for stability & long term bonding) is ofc no excuse for disloyalty - women have to resist their natural instincts while men cannot be hold to the same standard. A woman must be loyal even if he cheats, lies or disrespects her and she must tolerate infidelity without ever considering her own.

Number 2 Role: Controlling women trough shame

A man bailing on his kid isn’t at fault bc he’s „destined to spread his seed far and beyond“ aka getting a woman pregnant and then dump her ass like garbage moving on the next YET the single moms are held accountable for the actions of man’s nature AKA it’s her fault if he leaves for the milk & abandons his kid.

That’s because if women are shamed for single motherhood they are more likely to „behave“ (i.e., chose men on Redpill terms) which is why it resorts to blame women for „not choosing better men“ ofc all while shaming women for having standard and telling women that they are actually no good men since they would all cheat if they could due their nature.

The „better men“ would therefore be the betas who don’t have options (access to multiple women) so they are good for stability, marriage or fatherhood. Yet women are shamed for „using“ the betas at the same time bc they actually desire the alphas🙄 They are evil women who force men into commitment using their „resources“. They completely ignore how 95% of women have jobs too but are still being expected to do all the typical „housewife duties“ (which includes the child raising part) after coming home having having worked the same hours as their husbands did .. all while paying half the bills, having to deal with pregnancies, the physical torture of childbirth & the entire physical aftermath coming with that + monthly periods - that’s called 50/50 then even though the woman does the majority YET redpillers are convinced men provide everything and women just do nothing. Bodily autonomy doesn’t excusing marital rape as women can’t withhold sex and must fulfill the man’s sexual „needs“ at all times. Females can’t say NO as they should be obedient since men are superior. Male authority gets placed over female autonomy. Females are expected to give men kids bc he must spreed his seed and continue his legacy as he’s so important. Ofc he can then leave or cheat on her as her body is ugly & damaged now which makes her worthless since women only matter for their appearance. Mothers always have „hit the wall“. That’s not their fault though since men are simply „visual creatures“ and only attracted to youth, innocence, purity & beauty BUT if men get fat and lazy women are evil sluts for leaving them for someone better.

More contradictions & double standards

-Men age life fine wine but women like spoilt milk

Women after 25 are expired & „hit the wall“ at 30 turning worthless while men only decrease in value

-Men can’t impossibly enjoy fatherhood or monogamy = it’s always vicious women controlling them & ofc women have audacity to expect men to be fathers to their own children they helped create

Slutshaming, degrading & absolutely dehumanizing women in the worst ways possible for casual dating BUT also shaming women for wanting commitment or monogamy = female manipulation
If you want the alpha you are shallow, naive & deserve to be abandoned
If you marry the beta you: you’re using him

- If you avoid men altogether though you are bitter or broke - aka crazy cat lady

- If you are selective you are a narcissist or a prude

I you aren’t selective you are a worthless hoe

—> it’s a trap. The rp doesn’t offer women a solution but instead frames all female choices as flawed unless they submit entirely to male expectations

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[–]divine_simplicity001 [score hidden] 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They don’t make men fear women - they make them hate women by teaching them all women are evil golddiggers & hypergamous sluts always manipulating and using men to their advantage.

That’s how it starts - feeding them ragebait to build up anger and make them resent women in order to desensitize them to practice male authority/dominance and undermine female autonomy. They start diving deeper and deeper in misogyny turning men into cruel assholes that use & exploit women for sex and as status symbols, abandon their own kids (bc being a father & providing is the most beta male thing a man can do - he must spreed his seed meaning no commitment into child raising), cheat and commit marital rape since female can’t deny sex and need to fulfill men’s sexual needs at all times (coercion, guiltriping, ignoring consent and more gets normalized) - male authority matters over female autonomy

The redpill claim to decenter men & focus on self improvement while making women the center of their entire ideology, only encouraging male improvement to attract female attention. They involve man’s entire self worth around female validation which is the opposite of decentering women. They separate men in two categories - alphas and betas aka high value vs low value AND men cannot achieve the alpha status without being sexually desired by women. If you aren’t sexually desired by women than you are an emasculated looser with no value. It’s sets all the men who aren’t successful in dating up to misery + makes them more prone to misogyny (and sexism in general towards both genders) and physical or sexual violence against girls/women bc they can’t take rejection from the female gender wanting to punish them for making them feel like betas when they want to feel like alphas. The Redpill ideology created tons of incels ready to hurt women and wanting to degrade them at every possible opportunity. Telling men that their value as a human being is tied to how desirable they are too women and how many women they can fuck isn’t helping men and especially not women as they will be punished for not giving men the attention they crave or giving them access to their bodies.

It’s all about power play/ dominance - women must stay loyal even if a man cheats, lies or disrespects her since „a man with options will exercise them“. Women must tolerate infidelity without ever considering their own. They want to control women into being the perfect servants to men with no obligation to reciprocate. Women should always cater to men‘s need without questioning being obedient cheerleaders with zero expectations or agency. All that for a man who won’t value her or commit, be loyal or provide anything (bc that’s for betas)

The redpill doesn’t offer women a solution but instead frames all female choices as flawed unless women submit entirely to man’s expectations

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